Talk:Barry Burton
Barry Burton is currently a Video games good article nominee. Nominated by 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) at 11:30, 24 November 2024 (UTC) Any editor who has not nominated or contributed significantly to this article may review it according to the good article criteria to decide whether or not to list it as a good article. To start the review process, click start review and save the page. (See here for the good article instructions.) Short description: Video game character |
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A fact from Barry Burton appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 11 August 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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Portrayal in original Resident Evil
[edit]Okay, so we got a dispute here. On an early edit, somebody said a guy by the name of Gregory Malcom Adams portrayed Barry. However, recent edits on that article as well as this article point it to Barry Gjerde, and that there is nobody by the name of "Gregory Malcom Adams" who worked on this game.
It's either one, the other or both. I'm leaning towards both: Maybe Gjerde did his voice (judging how Gjerde is a voice actor/narrator), and Adams did the live-action scenes. Could somebody verify what is correct so I can adjust things accordingly? Because if this is true that there is no "Gregory Malcom Adams", I'll nominate that article for Speedy Deletion.-TonicBH 15:44, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
- There is NO Gregory Malcom Adams. Barry Gjerde acted in the live action scenes AND voiced Barry in the game. Go to his official site. Look at the photos. Its the same guy. This "Gregory Malcom Adams" nonsense was started by a member of the Gamefaqs forums whos since been banned. Strange that the creation of "Gregory Malcom Adams" article is attributed to yourself, TonicBH. Parjay 19:26, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
- Right, because somebody put in the original article the "Gregory Adams" fiasco, and I thought it was truth without checking sources. My mistake. -TonicBH 21:11, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
- No problem, these things happen.Parjay 21:33, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
It's NOT the same guy. There is no proof whatsoever. IMDB's list is unreliable. Just because he looks like Barry Gjerde does NOT mean it is. You are probably the idiot that posted that BS IMDB link. Lynn Harris's agent said NONE of the voice actors were the live actors. Here's is proof and leave it as Gregory. [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.94.122.104 (talk) 12:07, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
More proof, Barry said he only did the voice of Barry Burton. Finally, the rumor is put to rest.[2] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.94.122.104 (talk) 12:13, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
A new better image.
[edit]I think it would be much better to use this picture as his portrait. http://www.capcom-central.com/concept/rem/BarryBurton.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.206.252.209 (talk) 15:13, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 18:57, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- ... that Barry Burton gained popularity for having lines—like "That was too close! You were almost a Jill Sandwich!".Source: [1] https://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3311562/barry-burton-best-resident-evil-character/ https://screenrant.com/best-resident-evil-npc-barry-re1/
- ALT1: ... Barry Burton's lines like "You were almost a Jill Sandwich!" from the first Resident Evil game were popular enough to be referenced in following games?"
Source: [2][3] About Eurogamer YT source. "Jill Sandwich" started at 2:26 to 2:29.
References
- ^ Wilson, Aoife (February 9, 2015). Video: Oh my Cod - An ode to Resident Evil's Barry Burton. Eurogamer (Video). Event occurs at 2:26-2:29.
Jill Sandwich
- ^ McDonell, Jess (January 28, 2013). "Gaming Meme History: Jill Sandwich". GameSpot. Archived from the original on April 11, 2013. Retrieved August 12, 2017.
- ^ Wilson, Aoife (February 9, 2015). Video: Oh my Cod - An ode to Resident Evil's Barry Burton (Video). Event occurs at 2:26-2:29.
Jill Sandwich
Length and history verified. References good for original hook. But for ALT1 (and the Eurogamer one for the original, if you are linking to a page with video use {{cite AV media}} and give us the time when the statement is made in the video instead of making us look through the whole thing. Daniel Case (talk) 05:53, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Daniel Case about Eurogamer. "Jill Sandwich" started at 2:26 to 2:29. Thanks for informing me. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 06:00, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: Have your concerns been addressed, and is this approved? If not, what needs to be done to approve this nomination? Z1720 (talk) 01:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- OK, sorry for taking so long to get back to you. You need to change the cite in the article to {{cite AV media}} so you can put the time in the cite in the article. If you feel that's too complicated, I would be happy to do it for you. Daniel Case (talk) 02:15, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Daniel Case Done. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 02:44, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Um, no. Source 28 still doesn't have it, you haven't edited the article in three weeks, and the only edit since you wrote that wasn't to that source. Daniel Case (talk) 02:38, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Daniel Case I thought only here at DYK nom. Sorry. I already added now. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 02:51, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: how's this nomination going? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 21:20, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Daniel Case I thought only here at DYK nom. Sorry. I already added now. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 02:51, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Um, no. Source 28 still doesn't have it, you haven't edited the article in three weeks, and the only edit since you wrote that wasn't to that source. Daniel Case (talk) 02:38, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Daniel Case Done. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 02:44, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- OK, sorry for taking so long to get back to you. You need to change the cite in the article to {{cite AV media}} so you can put the time in the cite in the article. If you feel that's too complicated, I would be happy to do it for you. Daniel Case (talk) 02:15, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: Have your concerns been addressed, and is this approved? If not, what needs to be done to approve this nomination? Z1720 (talk) 01:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Ooops ... I knew I'd let something get away from me but I couldn't remember what. It's good now. Daniel Case (talk) 21:23, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Boneless Pizza!, what is a "clanky-inducing line"? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:07, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- ~~ AirshipJungleman29 I just ended up removing it to avoid being too complicated. Tthanks for mentioning it. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 17:06, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
GA Review
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Nominator: Boneless Pizza! (talk · contribs) 12:52, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: Pokelego999 (talk · contribs) 22:01, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Will take this on in the coming days. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 22:01, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Six GA Criteria
[edit]1. Article is mostly well-written. Reception flounders in prose.
2. No OR, all info is cited in the article.
3. Coverage seems sparse and smushed together.
4. Article appears neutral, and does not appear to hold a significantly negative nor positive stance on the subject.
5. Article appears stable. Does not appear to have had any major vandalism occur.
6. Article uses one fair use image with proper rationale, and uses one sound file with proper rationale.
Lead
[edit]-Looks good
Concept and design
[edit]-"Then they "made him look tough outside, and motion is "old man" to make balance." Not quite sure what this means
Appearances
[edit]-" her soul into Natalie, and leading to the game's main conflict." Again, confused on meaning here. Reword this if possible.
Reception
[edit]-"He claimed to have taken on the role of Jill in his first Resident Evil game; a decision that gave his encounter a majestic aspect that he would not have otherwise had." Thompson or Burton? How does he take on Jill's role? None of this is defined earlier in the article.
-"The majesty manifested in Barry Burton's "flowing red beard, flawed logic, compulsive confusion, tactical prowess, and eloquence encapsulated." No other character in the series, according to Zac, arouses as much anticipation with just their appearance. Zac also referred him to be the Adam West of the Resident Evil universe, and claimed that "his memory still burns in the minds of his many fans" Feel this can just be trimmed to something like "He described how Burton's character was highly memorable with fans, with re-appearances of the character sparking high anticipation among fans of the series."
-"In the end, Wilson referred to him" In the end of what? You don't describe enough of the article for this to be a feasible description.
-"According to Melissa Sarnowski of Screen Rant, Barry Burton's debut in the first Resident Evil made him the best non-player character." So because he debuted in a game he was a popular character? I'm not quite seeing the cause and effect here.
-"Multiple sources have also noted that line." Noted that line for what?
-The article's Reception feels very incoherent as of right now. It feels like random quotes smushed together from various trivial mentions and minor sources. The stuff on his dialogue is interesting, but the whole thing feels it could be easily summarizeable elsewhere. I'll take a further source analysis later today, but I'm not exactly convinced on the separate notability of this subject from the overall characters list as of right now.
Overall
[edit]There's some big problems that need to be addressed with phrasing, primarily in Reception. I will provide some more information later in terms of sourcing, but for the time being I'll place this on hold to allow for time to work on the article. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 13:19, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 Many thanks for the review, but unfortunately I feel like I'm too tired at the FAC. So because of that, I will say that I am giving up with this and other RE articles. I am also 50/50 to the notability. Feel free to send it to Afd if you wished. Thanks. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 13:36, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Boneless Pizza! looking at the sources deeper, I feel the subject meets notability, even if it is a bit slim. I feel you could potentially expand this out with the Bloody Disgusting source a bit, though I admittedly am not sure of where I'd start with that. In any case, if you're certain about not wanting to work on this article for the time being, I can quick fail this nomination, and you can re-nominate this once you feel you're less burnt out. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 01:48, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Feel free to fail it. Again, thank you and apologize for wasting your time here. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 02:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Boneless Pizza! Alright. Feel free to re-nominate once you feel you're ready, and best of luck at your current FAC nomination. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 02:36, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- I doubt I will renominate it, since I started removing most of the RE character articles on my watchlist (lost interest). Also, thank you! 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 02:38, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Boneless Pizza! Alright. Feel free to re-nominate once you feel you're ready, and best of luck at your current FAC nomination. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 02:36, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Feel free to fail it. Again, thank you and apologize for wasting your time here. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 02:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Boneless Pizza! looking at the sources deeper, I feel the subject meets notability, even if it is a bit slim. I feel you could potentially expand this out with the Bloody Disgusting source a bit, though I admittedly am not sure of where I'd start with that. In any case, if you're certain about not wanting to work on this article for the time being, I can quick fail this nomination, and you can re-nominate this once you feel you're less burnt out. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 01:48, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 Many thanks for the review, but unfortunately I feel like I'm too tired at the FAC. So because of that, I will say that I am giving up with this and other RE articles. I am also 50/50 to the notability. Feel free to send it to Afd if you wished. Thanks. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 13:36, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
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