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"Awadhi" also means "Eternal Power"

Awadhi language template

If you are a native speaker of Awadhi then you can help translate this template into your own language:

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ई प्रयोगकर्ता कय लगे अवधी भाषा कय पैदायसी ज्ञान हय ।

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--Amazonien (talk) 04:20, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- Superb.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ^☣ 21:36, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fiji and Mauritius

I've removed Mauritius and added Fiji as countries where Awadhi is spoken. Fiji Hindi is a dialect of Awadhi, whereas Mauritian Hindi is actually Bhojpuri. saɪm duʃan Talk|Contribs 08:37, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would contest the removal of Fiji from the geographical distribution of Awadhi. Awadhi is the formal version of Hindi spoken in Fiji, with most of the grammar coming from Awadhi. It is completely different to dialects of formal Hindi like Mumbaya and Delhiwala. Dialectical differences only occur in usage of proper nouns and usually only incorporate South Indian versions (Anna, Amma, Thatha, Paati).207.251.43.98 (talk) 21:45, 12 January 2016 (UTC) Raj Bali[reply]

Not a dialect

Hi,
Almost the entire article treats Avadhi language as a dialect of Hindi. However it's not the case. If this language was spoken in Europe, it would have been already officially recognised and used in curricula. It's only being declared as a dialect in India, with political purposes. Therefore a WP article, should explicitly mention the facts and should refrain from POV. Avadhi, with very old folk literature and many other linguistic features of its own, is a proper full-fledged language. --Universal Life (talk) 23:57, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree perfectly with you, however, I find an equivocation on your speech and I'd like respectfully show it.

You mentioned that it's declared as an dialect in India, having that in mind, present something that happened in a specific country as India would be an POV issue?

I believe not because if a decree were to occur in Japan and I, although, were to indirectly cite that decree, it wouldn't a POV issue, because it's something which really happened and not something from unconscious as an POV or an personal opnion.

Here is the same thing, only instead of being Japan, it's India, and if that were the case, the article would be based on personal opinion and not fact.

Although be obvious that India is not the whole world, an country with 1 billion people, do you really think that invalidating an entire country just because it is not the only existing country? 177.105.90.75 (talk) 23:31, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My point here is not whether it's really a POV of somebody's or not, but yes if the article in question is based on facts—these facts make/would make the article reliable—if so, congratulations, if not, then you need to contribute to improving the article.

What I meant by my question is that sometimes we tend to demystify a fact without even knowing whether it is reliable or not, in these situations it is essential not to fall into two extremes, on the one hand, that extreme of total distrust that prevents us from perceiving reality of an mature way, the extreme is the total confidence of blindly trusting something at all costs, I'll give an example, let's say a governor legislatively asks to discriminalizate the ab*s3 to animals.

So I ask you, will I follow what the governor says or morals and ethics? The answer is simple, follow morals and ethics, because in this situation the legislation will not save you from suffering the consequences of committing z**ph1l1a, it allows you, but does not prevent you from the consequences. 177.105.90.14 (talk) 16:15, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Awadhi Speaker from Fiji

As an Awadhi speaker and amateur linguist, Awadhi is an evolved version of a North Eastern language that is mixed with formalized Hindi. Awadhi speakers can attest that sentence structure, grammar and vocabulary is different enough for it to be incommunicable with any languages outside of its region. Today's Awadhi is a mix of the 3 major languages present in that region from the Mauryan Empire to today; namely Apabhramsa/Paisachi, Pali and Sanskrit. I have access to some books in the Kabir Library in Suva that detail the history of the propragation of the language in Fiji after migration. If anyone is willing to make it conform to the standards, I can do some research and write something up. 207.251.43.98 (talk) 21:55, 12 January 2016 (UTC) Raj Bali j.raj.bali2@gmail.com[reply]

Number of speakers

According to Ethnologue, the total number of L1 speakers is 3,032,000. The Number in this article is 38 millions! --GeekEmad (talk) 16:59, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Correct, fixed. Batternut (talk) 10:21, 2 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the difference between both the numbers mentioned is outlier, i.e, huge than 1, 2, or 10 numbers of difference, it's really astonishing the mistake, but mistake is an mistake, and it's perfectly common that it occurs. 177.105.90.14 (talk) 15:54, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dialects of Awadhi

Hi, I have noticed that dialect section of this page is changing every now and then. I'd like to clear doubts for one last time and make a final edit. I have seen @Arimaboss: interested in this.

Awadhi language has four confirmed dialects that every source mentions, viz Gangapari, Pardesi, Uttari, Mirzapuri. There are some sources (ex: liguasphere) that suggest that Fijian Hindi as a dialect of Awadhi while others call it a type of Awadhi influenced by Bhojpuri (a nd possibly other languages too).

I couldn't find any source that include Carribean Hindstani, Trindadian, Guyanese Hindustani, Sarnami as "dialects" of Awadhi. These languages may or may not be influenced by Awadhi but they are certainly not "dialects" of Awadhi. If there are credible sources that mentions these as "dialects" of Awadhi, I am very much open to discussions.

Sattvic7 (talk) 20:05, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dialect of Urdu

Awadhi is also viewed as Urdu dialect.

Source: also viewed as a dialect of Urdu,^[1] 39.51.110.120 (talk) 19:06, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

^ "literary notes: Some dialects of Urdu: a very brief introduction", dawn.com, Malik Muhammad Jaisi's Padma vat, one of the classical poetic works of Urdu, is composed in Avadhi dialect of Urdu. Lahore's Majlis-i-Taraqqi-i-Adab has published it.

Dawn is a news site, and certainly not a reliable source for linguistic topics. –Austronesier (talk) 19:13, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree, I think that Dawn really works for it, but everyone has their own opnion and it's good value this. 177.105.90.75 (talk) 23:10, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Awadhi

This is awadhi language in uttar pardesh 163.53.24.78 (talk) 07:07, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "literary notes: Some dialects of Urdu: a very brief introduction", dawn.com, Malik Muhammad Jaisi's Padma vat, one of the classical poetic works of Urdu, is composed in Avadhi dialect of Urdu. Lahore's Majlis-i-Taraqqi-i-Adab has published it.

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