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This has been going on as a pseudo-RM since June 2023. This is not an RM, and even if it was, there is no consensus for moving the article. If you still want to try to get this moved, start an RM using the system described here. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:50, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The word assassination connotes illegality and wrongdoing, but General Soleimani was justly targeted by the U.S. military due to his involvement in the IRGC and leadership of the Quds Force, as well as his support of various terrorist groups around the Middle East, targeting Israel and the United States.
The word "killing" on the other hand is more neutral and has been used for similar events, for example the "Killing of Osama Bin Laden," who was killed in a U.S. military operation, the same as Soleimani. 2601:246:C100:6450:F091:6D8D:6AC6:DD77 (talk) 18:41, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Current title describes the subject accurately. The proposed one is ambiguous in that in he might have been unintentionally killed.--95.12.119.26 (talk) 20:02, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OpposeThis was an illegal targeted killing of an individual for political reasons. It fulfils every possible nuance of the word Assassination. Killing is unnecessarily ambiguous.Boynamedsue (talk) 22:38, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. Assassination refers only to unlawful targeted killing, and the United States’ position is that it was lawful. Therefore, NPOV should forbid the use of “assassination” in the title. — Wulf (talk) 23:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, but my statement was in respect to the US position as to both domestic and international law. And if the parties can’t agree on whether it was legal or not, then Wikipedia shouldn’t take a stance. — Wulf (talk) 21:25, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Assassination" as a term does not necessarily mean lawful or unlawful. Even as a legal term of art, in peace or in war, it seems the definition of this has varied (see Schmitt 2021-10-15 "Assassination in the law of war" via West Point for a thorough overview.) But we're also not bound to find and use a strict legal definition here (and that'll inevitably just make these titles more unwieldy and/or less descriptive. Although I suppose if you really want "targeted extrajudicial killing" then that's fine; the "killing" alone though was of 5 people.). SamuelRiv (talk) 22:48, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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This story by Politico reports on an Iranian plot to hack Donald Trump's campaign. The story by Politico mentions Iranian plots to assassinate Donald Trump as retaliation for the assassination of Soleimani, but does not specifically mention that the hacking of the campaign was also a retaliation - although one seems to relate to the other (if they want him dead, they would want to sabotage his campaign).
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