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On 26 June 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to The Ahwahnee. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Redirect for Yosemite Park and Curry Company?

The history of a major National Park concession history is overlooked by lack of material and this unfortunate redirect. Granted The Ahwahnee Hotel remains one of the company's primary architectural legacies, but numerous fascinating personalities, artistic accomplishments, supreme court victories, contentious positions, and cultural histories are overlooked without its own page. Can no one support developing a better history for National Park concessions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:2E05:F470:2CBA:6DBD:FF32:D396 (talk) 06:31, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

five-star? From where?

On its page, it never claims 5 star status. It does claim to be four-diamond-rated by AAA (out of 5). I also cross checked the following:

Orbitz: 3/5 stars
Travelocity: just mentions the AAA 4/5 diamonds

For these reasons, I have struck the 5-star comments until a credible source is added. --Bobak 22:08, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I worked in the Ahwahnee back in the day, and although I heard people talk about 4/5 star ratings, nothing I read ever said so. Even IF royalty, presidents, and movie stars have eaten there! I would be surprised if it was 4 stars, I might consider 3 stars. While I was there: Billy Idol, the guy from Men's Warehouse, Molly Ringwald, one of the Princesses Di or Furgie.) --Billy Nair (talk) 00:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Ahwahnee hotel is a four diamonds property. Star rating are rated by the public based on the experience they had (customer service, quality of beds, etc). Diamond ratings are rated by American Automobile Association (AAA). Diamond ratings are based on the basic need requirements and how luxurious the property is based on AAA requirements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.183.184.25 (talk) 21:07, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the architectural style is "Arts & Crafts"

I believe the architectural style is "Arts & Crafts" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.251.102.152 (talk) 19:45, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ahwahnee name part of IP lawsuit

I was digging for more information on this Federal lawsuit: Jilted Yosemite National Park concessions suitor goes to court and was disappointed that there wasn't enough history of the ownership here to help me understand that case. Can it be added? (Should it?) As well as, perhaps, a brief summation of the lawsuit itself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:645:4000:7A80:B4A7:2773:15F0:3902 (talk) 01:57, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing redirects

The Yosemite Park & Curry Company redirect is targeted at this page, whereas the effectively identical Yosemite Park and Curry Company is redirected to the Yosemite National Park. Could someone who knows about this sort out that mess? (I'm posting an identical note in the talk section of the latter page, too.) Meanwhile, Curry Company doesn't even have a page, and isn't a redirect to anything. MrRedwood (talk) 23:39, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Meanwhile, Curry Company doesn't even have a page, and isn't a redirect to anything.
- OK.--Mark Miller (talk) 03:34, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Both redirects have been changed. Yosemite Park & Curry Company now redirects to basically the same place but under the specific subsection "The Currys" to give the full details and background of the two companies and Yosemite Park and Curry Company now redirects to the subsection "Yosemite Park & Curry Company" for that specific spelling of the name. Curry Company now redirects to "The Currys".--Mark Miller (talk) 03:46, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 26 June 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 05:39, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ahwahnee Hotel → The Ahwahnee – All official sources, especially National Park Service sources, refer to the hotel not as the Ahwahnee Hotel but as The Ahwahnee. This seems uncontroversial. RobotGoggles (talk) 13:28, 26 June 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 16:18, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Sources seem to use the "Ahwahnee Hotel" [1] [2] [3] as well. Take a look at this ngram too. :3 F4U (they /it) 23:53, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There are sources that use Hotel, yes, but all official sources like the National Park Service website use The Ahwahnee as its official designation while "the Ahwahnee Hotel" is used as a useful alternative. And there are news sources that refer to it by "The Ahwahnee" as well. Even with the Ngram, both names seem to go back-and-forth in popularity. RobotGoggles (talk) 01:52, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: No comments - relisting Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 16:18, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Per WP:COMMONNAME, official names have no special preferred status on Wikipedia. Also, we tend not to include "The" when usage is mixed or lowercased, per WP:THE. This one seems borderline. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:04, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Plenty of sources use Ahwahnee Hotel. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:39, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:THE. Starting an article title with "The" is generally discouraged, and the current title is fine. Rreagan007 (talk) 00:55, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.