User talk:Drmies

Drmies specialises in such hit jobs for friends, relying completely on the fact everyone trusts that he would not do such a thing.

— "The Dark Knight"

Music

Remember the violinist whom I heard? More memories today: a choral conductor who inspired us, beginning with a Bach chorale, - that won my heart, of course. Chorale or not - that is the question in my FAC. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:29, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

• Gerda, you remind me of a perpetuum mobile. Good luck with the FA; I hope Schonken manages to stay out of it. --Oh, wait, it's that one... Drmies (talk) 12:56, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

You could just write a review ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:35, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I even called you to the scene, fondly remembering one of your reviews. Copyvio is in the air - or not? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:57, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Third day of Pentecost: some inspired music. What do you think about my idea to leave the FAC and pass it on to the new - well, what can we say if not owner? Your voice would also be welcome on ARCA (look for the cat picture, added on demand by an arb). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:37, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

I gave it up, following good advice (and avoiding to waste more time). - Are you following the chronicle DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:05, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Compare first impression and now. (Looking for my name on the "first" page makes me sentimental, "Hammer. Nail. Door.", reformation.) - Then please respond to the open DYK, and close the top ARCA, or whatever needs to be done to end that misery. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:46, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

• Gerda, I'm sorry, but I'm not following. I do note that Brepols is slated to publish a book on medieval illustrations of the Tristan and Isolde romance. What's the DYK? Drmies (talk) 14:56, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
• Oh, and ARCA--that's about an editor I'm not very familiar with in a case I am not at all familiar with. Drmies (talk) 15:04, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

I feel like explaining three jokes ;)

• Hammer. Nail. Door.
• Template:Did you know nominations/Warkworth's Chronicle
• Just because you are uninvolved you can support what Opabinia said: that the arbs can do nothing about that request. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:21, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

A little help

Hi Dr. I asked for page protection from persistent WP:BLP violations at John Ziegler (talk show host) about six hours ago. Any help would be welcome. Very best, 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:48, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

• Thank you and cheers, 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:54, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
  • No problem, friend. My pleasure, and my regards to you and yours. Drmies (talk) 01:01, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
    • Regards returned. I always smile when I come across your proper eviscerations of puffed articles. And your edit summaries. 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:08, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Question re AN, AE, EWN

Hi, Drmies. As an admin familiar with the case, can I refer you to a question I asked here? If a user is under discussion at AN, and they violate 1RR on an article that's under a 1RR restriction, should they be reported at EWN or AE as well as in the AN discussion, or should everything be kept in one place? Scolaire (talk) 18:06, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

• Oh, I don't know how familiar I am with anything. It's up to you. It's possible that AE gains more immediate attention from an admin, but it's more paperwork. Drmies (talk) 22:24, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

User: 2600:387:B:9:0:0:0:B0

You may want to block User:2600:387:B:9:0:0:0:B0 again. He has made several not useful additions.JSR (talk) 19:15, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

• Feel free to leave them a warning; those two edits aren't that serious (no BLP violations, for instance). Drmies (talk) 22:19, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you for all the stuff you did at Talk:Iron Fist (TV series), including the CU bizness! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:09, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

• You're welcome. TV shows raise temperatures, it seems! Drmies (talk) 14:43, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Orinoco

Hello, Drmies - I've been making some edits to Orinoco, undoing some edits by an IP editor, and I wanted to provide links to WP articles for reference. I now see I erred in putting "WP" before the name of the article in the link because they are coming out as red links in my edit summaries. Other than undoing all my edits and starting over, is there any way you could fix the links in a few of my edit summaries?  – Corinne (talk) 02:45, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)@Corinne: Unless Drmies has superpowers I know nothing of (which cannot be ruled out) they can only remove or suppress the entire edit summary. The technical ability to edit that edit summary does not exist, I'm afraid. Vanamonde (talk) 04:15, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, that's not one of my superpowers, I'm afraid, or anyone's--but I think it's clear enough even without being clickable, and MarnetteD found a creative way to make the improvement. BTW, Planned Parenthood at GA status? Awesome! Thanks, Drmies (talk) 05:05, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, both, and also MarnetteD. Re Planned Parenthood, I only helped to copy-edit it, but Checkingfax offered some shared recognition and gave me the template to post there.  – Corinne (talk) 15:03, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) – Hi, Corinne. I gave you credit for promoting PP to GA because you did help. A lot. I believe in sharing credit.

As for edit summaries: If you ever botch one and want to do a Mulligan, you can perform a "dummy edit". To make it work, you have to do something on the page that will not alter the appearance, then make your edit summary, then save it.

Here is an example of a dummy edit: Change a heading from ==Landscape design== to == Landscape design ==, or change == Landscape design == to ==Landscape design==

Those extra spaces, or contracted spaces will trick the system into thinking you are making an edit, but will not show to the reader. You can also use dummy edits to send messages to future editors if you want them to know something, but you do not want to make an actual edit. More about it here. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 08:09, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Request for protecting the article on Namasudra

Hi Drmies, hope you are doing great! The article on Namasudra is a sensitive one, and was protected by you in June 2015 and then again by RegentsPark in March 2017, in order to stop consistent POV-vandalism. Now that the protection is off, it would be really difficult to revert changes on a regular basis. Would request you or any other admin to please check the Revision history, and take necessary action. Thanks & Regards, Ekdalian (talk) 06:17, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Semi'd one month. Vanamonde (talk) 06:23, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Vanamonde. Regards, Ekdalian (talk) 06:36, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Regarding myself

Drmies thanks for your advice and for staying neutral on this matter. I cannot act in self-interest and pretend to be apologetic. It's not something I like to do and tbh I don't like playing politics on wikipedia, I deal with enough politics in real life. In any case, I have done nothing to merit a topic ban instigated by edit warriors, as can be seen in my editing history. It is an attempted character assassination and I am remaining firm on principle. If I don't it will just lend credence to the whole thing.Asilah1981 (talk) 08:28, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

• Last time I looked that topic ban seemed to be a happening thing; this can't be a pleasant experience. But I gotta say also, those edits to the White Helmets article, for instance, that's not going to help you: the area is simply that prone to disruption that firm rules were installed. Take care Asilah, Drmies (talk) 13:09, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Drmies. I think with the white helmets thing I accidentally bumped into something. Was told about that Eastern European anti-russian mailing list which was busted by admins some time back. Maybe I should back off from Syria topics altogether, which are new to me... but someone has to do it, they all seem "owned" to me by a very militant crowd. Iryna Harpy is ok though, even though we disagree...Asilah1981 (talk) 15:59, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Asilah, you tell you "was told". Who is telling this? There was a mailing list, but there was nothing "anti-russian". My very best wishes (talk) 16:22, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

From the finding of fact:

• Much of the traffic on the list that is material to the case was members coordinating in order to protect each other and their point of view in articles against a perceived "Russian cabal" .

I don't know whether the issue is one of language or comprehension but I'm frankly surprised we have an editor who would write: Asilah, you tell you "was told". Who is telling this? regularly editing encyclopedic articles. James J. Lambden (talk) 16:46, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

I asked Asilah and would like to hear his response to the question. My very best wishes (talk) 17:15, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

• James, are you raising a point of grammar? If so, there is no need for that. Asilah, I find this phrasing odd as well. I can go years without ever being told anything about Wikipedia. As for the White Helmets, I am still having a hard time understanding how they're supposed to be some sort of propaganda force, what with all the dying and pulling people from rubble, but hey, to each his own. Drmies (talk) 20:38, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

My very best wishes So you confirm you are part of this group? You seem aware of the matter and very defensive of their activities.Asilah1981 (talk) 21:03, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Asilah, please don't employ this rhetorical tactic on my talk page or anywhere else on Wikipedia. Thanks! (My very best wishes, it is a good idea to ignore loaded questions--don't answer.) Drmies (talk) 21:04, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Ok but it was a very odd question!! "Who told you". Good night.Asilah1981 (talk) 21:08, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Drmies: actually two points:

(1) The expectation that editors on english wikipedia speak english fluently. That's not meant to discriminate against international contributors (for example we have several Swedish editors whose writing is indistinguishable from native speakers) or to disparage non-native speakers (I myself am a non-native speaker); it is to produce articles that conform to basic standards of english language and grammar.

(2) I've seen several, recent instances where MVBW has difficulty understanding or expressing himself. Misunderstanding makes already difficult discussions in contentious articles more difficult. MVBW's focus on contentious articles exacerbates the problem.

I see Asilah has retired as a result of his topic ban so this particular dispute is no longer relevant but I'm concerned that until the problems in (2) are addressed the pattern of misunderstanding and conflict will continue. James J. Lambden (talk) 22:17, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

James, I think My Very Best Wishes (man I dislike such user names! "James" or "Drmies" are much better...) is not a trained grammarian in English, and what they are doing here, I think, is finding a way to work the writer's phrasing into their own sentence, which is not always an easy thing to do. You probably recall (cause I'm guessing you're an American) being taught how to do that, with your square brackets and all, from Freshman Comp, and so do I, which is why we look so suave and intelligent. But My Very etc., I've ran into them once or twice and haven't had a problem figuring it out (I'm not yet checking your diffs since it's dinner time here). As for this editor, sure, they may have retired but that doesn't mean the "case" is over--however, let's leave that be, since a little birdie tells me that ArbCom is on it, and believe me when I say that of all the things that matter to me here on Wikipedia, privacy is possibly the most important thing, whether I like or agree with an editor or not. Thanks James, and take care, Drmies (talk) 23:38, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

The vest

Joakim Brodén performing at Wacken Open Air in 2013

Hey Drmies, the vest is the best. Just look at that fire next to it! Ha ha ha! Cheers, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 15:22, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

• Dude, you rock. Don't let anyone tell you different. Drmies (talk) 21:05, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Requested input

Hello, I frequently see you contribute to articles listed in Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea/Popular culture and would very much appreciate your input on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea/Popular culture#Eradication of variety show sections so that a conclusion towards variety show appearances can be made. Thanks. Abdotorg (talk) 19:07, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

24.50.204.123

Hello Drmies. Since you are the one who blocked 24.50.204.51, this may be of interest: appears to be back as 24.50.204.123 and edited today with typical stupid edit summary in template space... I'm not really sure yet if that last one to Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace should stand. Thanks, —PaleoNeonate - 03:07, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

38.132.120.80

• 38.132.120.80 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)

Would you mind blocking this IP again? It appears to be the same person as before, so maybe a longer duration this time? Say, 2 weeks or 1 month...? Thanks. 78.84.108.148 (talk) 21:50, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Since you don't appear to be around right now, I'll try WP:AIV. Cheers. 78.84.108.148 (talk) 23:35, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

And there you have it; they're now blocked. Thanks anyway. :-) 78.84.108.148 (talk) 23:48, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

• Sorry. Me and the crew were out playing wiffle ball. Drmies (talk) 12:36, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Blacklist the username Ks0stm?

Maybe it would be worthwhile to add Ks0stm the blacklist for new users?—CYBERPOWER (Message) 00:22, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

• What we need is a rangeblock and someone to contact the ISP. Drmies (talk) 00:25, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

  At least this will prevent these disruptive usernames referencing Ks0stm from being created, except by account creators and admins.—CYBERPOWER (Message) 00:26, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

• True--you're right. Ha, how do you filter someone who tries to write English but can't? And they're in college! (Sometimes.) Drmies (talk) 00:28, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

  Don't mind me, just subtly whistling. :p—CYBERPOWER (Message) 00:30, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

• You may want to have this done globally since accounts can be created anywhere. --Rschen7754 00:31, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

  The target appears to be localized to enwiki for the time being, so I added the blacklist entry to the title blacklist.—CYBERPOWER (Message) 00:35, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

• Thx. Did you throw in some variations? And Rschen, are you clever with rangeblocks? DoRD may have some numbers to play around with. Drmies (talk) 00:36, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

• I handed in my steward hat a while back, so unfortunately I can't be of help with that. --Rschen7754 00:39, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

I must have done something wrong, because I could create Ks0stm is a smart guy as a test account, which I immediately blocked. Despite the entry being added, and the regex is correct.—CYBERPOWER (Message) 00:42, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Pinging @MER-C:—CYBERPOWER (Message) 00:44, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Maybe because you're an administrator? --kelapstick^(bainuu) 00:48, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

To actually override it you have to check a box that says "Override the blacklist". Otherwise, it blocks your account creation.—CYBERPOWER (Message) 00:50, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Rangeblocks won't help because he's hopping around all over the place, unfortunately. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 00:52, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

I remember seeing a couple of sets of similar IPs, from the same town/area. Drmies (talk) 01:02, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

newaccountonly on the local title blacklist doesn't work because of SUL. This will need to go to meta. MER-C 03:41, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Appropriate forums?

Is there any forums to announce the existence of an ongoing AfD I started without being accused of canvassing? I believe there needs to be more eyes from experienced editors who understand the policies surrounding the media topic.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 02:04, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

• Well, you can drop the link here. I don't know--the Village Pump? I do like the idea. Drmies (talk) 02:16, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

• Oh, I was not aware I could request an opinion from an individual editor. This was the AfD I was referring to. I will mention it at the village pump too, thanks a million!TheGracefulSlick (talk) 02:31, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

• Ha, this isn't really my talk page, and I have enough detractors to obviate the constraints of CANVASS immediately. Drmies (talk) 02:49, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

(talk page gnome) @TheGracefulSlick: Canvassing usually means to contact multiple select individuals that you think will vote the way you would like. Sending {{AfD-notice|2016 stabbing of Brussels police officers}}~~~~ to what seem appropriate public venues is not canvassing (Wikiprojects, deletion sorting lists (those are handled differently than with notices, see WP:DST), noticeboards, the relevant article's talk page, etc). The article creator should usually also be notified (available via the "page info" special link). WP:CANVASS and WP:AFDEQ have more details. There also are templates to advise participants of an AfD of these notitications ({{deletion sorting}} and {{deletion mention}}. I hope this helps, —PaleoNeonate - 02:53, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Possible legal threat or worse?

Hi Drmies. Hope you are doing well. I am wondering if either you or one of your talk page watchers who are an admin would mind taking a look at Abdulahbkhan. Not only does the userpage seem a bit questionable per WP:UP#NOT, but this edit sum and this user talk page post are a little more troubling. I thought about starting an ANI about this, but perhaps this type of thing can be resolved another way. Abdulahbkhan appears to have been editing for only a little over a month so he might not be too familiar with Wikipedia's various policies and guidelines. At the same time, this seems to be the kind of thing which can quickly get an editor into some serious trouble if they are not careful. So, I am wondering if you or anyone have any suggestions on how deal with something such as this before it gets really out of hand. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:11, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Oshwah has posted a warning on Abdulahbkhan's user talk so perhaps that will be sufficient. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:23, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Marchjuly, there was also this threatening post at talk:Muhammad and this edit marked as "fixed typo" which was not fixing a typo, which I have now reverted. The user page was moved to article space on 1 June as Abdullah B Khan, tagged for speedy deletion under A7 by GSS-1987 and then (correctly) deleted by Bbb23. Abdulahbkhan removed the CSD notification from his user page on 7 June (as he is entitled to do, of course). He has also removed maintenance tags without addressing the issues (the Aziz Fatimah Medical and Dental College article is still unreferenced). As he has made a total of 100 edits and so is new to Wikipedia, hopefully he will adapt to being a Wikipedian, but there are certainly reasons for some concerns. EdChem (talk) 09:05, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

After some deliberation, I have deleted their userpage; per fakearticle, U5 and borderline G11. Lectonar (talk) 09:34, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Good call. Drmies (talk) 13:06, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

And that went nowhere rather quickly... Drmies (talk) 13:08, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

For those watching at home, Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#User:Abdulahbkhan has just been opened up. Yunshui ^雲_水 13:53, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

• Blocked, and blocked. Also, was not a new user, per acknowledgement here. Bishonen | talk 18:49, 13 June 2017 (UTC).

Funny feeling. Would the proposer of this [[1]] be linked in any way with the above? Irondome (talk) 19:34, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

IP blocked for block evasion by Bbb23. Popped up again with this gem. If it is Abdulahbkhan then seriously good calls at WP:AN strongly reaffirming the indef. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:03, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Gem & non-mainstream? What about Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution of Ireland? The Banner talk 21:24, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

I did not think they hung the offenders from cranes in Dublin prior to 2015 however. Irondome (talk) 21:29, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

No, only the usual things as beating up and discriminating. The whole country would fall apart when the proposal was accepted etc. etc. But to get a referendum accepted nationwide is an clear indicator that the issue is mainstream. The Banner talk 21:35, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Based on what I saw earlier, those IPs are unlikely to be Abdulahbkhan. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 20:27, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Still...I cannot shake a rather bad feeling concerning the now-blocked user. I had a look at his twitter account and especially the one of his father. I think @Boing! said Zebedee:'s idea in the AN thread was not the worst one. Lectonar (talk) 20:32, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

FWIW, the emergency@ team is aware of the edits. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 20:39, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

(e/c)Would that fall under the foundation's area of responsibility? It may be wise. Irondome (talk) 20:42, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Are we in the real world? Drmies (talk) 21:09, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Dolly Rudeman has been nominated for Did You Know

Hello, Drmies. Dolly Rudeman, an article you either created or to which you significantly contributed,has been nominated to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page as part of Did you know. You can see the hook and the discussion here. You are welcome to participate! Thank you. APersonBot (talk!) 12:00, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Asilah1981 socking?

After leaving it for a while, I edited Catalan Countries yesterday. Most of my edits were either reverts or edits for neutrality of edits made by Asilah1981 in May. I made seven edits, each with a clear edit summary. It was reverted en bloc by 92.23.28.53 at 10.37 (UTC) this morning, right in the middle of Asilah's sudden spate of editing before you blocked him, and with an edit summary typical of Asilah. I don't know where to go with this: SPI will not do a checkuser on an IP, RFPP will not protect on the basis of a single edit, and ANI is unlikely to take notice. Can you advise me? Scolaire (talk) 15:45, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

I have pending-changes protected for one month; any more edits by IPs will not go live and can be evaluated. If there is quacking, we can block. Lectonar (talk) 15:49, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Lectonar. --Scolaire (talk) 17:44, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

In addition, he violated his topic ban on topics related to the Iberian peninsula. Of itself valid reasons for a block. WCM_email 16:03, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

• Yeah... Drmies (talk) 18:00, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

(Me again)

Sorry to intrude when you seem to be... fully invested in the moment, as it were?! But just FYI, Gregory's Chronicle is live, and I thought you might like to (so, actually not just for information after all, I lie!) cast a lazy eye over it, sometime. No pressure. In the mean time, good luck with the cabaret! — O Fortuna ^{semper crescis, aut decrescis} 19:29, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Watch your language!

Seriously, you don't have the right to warning me! Who do you think you are? I just removing the untrue information. There are no wrong! 100.38.114.244 (talk) 03:08, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

And remove your warning language right now! I don't like and don't want to see it! 100.38.114.244 (talk) 03:09, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Ah, such topics. Truly the intellectual summits of WP! Chortle. Irondome (talk) 03:12, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

This is between me and Drmies. It's not your business, Irondome. Please delete your comments and leave this talk page right now! 100.38.114.244 (talk) 03:45, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Indeed you should read WP:TPO. Get a grip eh? Irondome (talk) 03:51, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

OK! I'm not going to remove your comments anymore. But again! This is between me and Drmies. It's not your business, Irondome. Please delete your comments by yourself and leave this talk page right now!100.38.114.244 (talk) 03:55, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

With the remarkably arrogant attitude you are displaying I suspect your 'tenure' on WP to be somewhat shorter than you may expect. Irondome (talk) 04:06, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Wrong answer! You should say: "Ok, fine. I'll do it as you said." 100.38.114.244 (talk) 04:11, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

I give you a week. I'm ever the optimist. Irondome (talk) 04:15, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

One week? Fine, thank you. You must delete your comments after a week. (End talking. Please don't reply.)100.38.114.244 (talk) 04:18, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

'a week is a long time on Wikipedia, as they say  ;) — O Fortuna ^{semper crescis, aut decrescis} 08:37, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Looking forward to the beer and sandwiches. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:47, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

An orgy-basket of tripes fried in aurochs dripping for me (with honey).—PaleoNeonate - 09:05, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

In Auerochsfett gebratene Schweinskaldaunen, mit Honig. Even in German a heap of fabulous words. Asterix in Switzerland, afaik. Lectonar (talk) 09:28, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

A day is a long time in Wikipedia Aluminium composite panels. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 09:27, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

About my removed contribution about examples of controversial emojis in the "Polemic" page

Hello Drms,

I would like to understand why did you consider that my contribution was not right for this page. I think that the examples I gave are relevant recent and original examples that illustrate what is a polemic. Emojis are a sociological and serious subject today since they contribute to build the online (digital) identity.

I'm looking forward to hear about your arguments Thanks you — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnasBARAKAT TPT (talk • contribs) 03:20, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Articles:

• Emoji (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
• Polemic (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Please keep discussion about an article on its talk page. Johnuniq (talk) 10:26, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

• Not every discussion is a polemic, and in this case, there seems to be nothing particularly famous or polemic about the discussion, nor do the participants seem to included noted polemicists. If sources don't call something "polemic", it's not a polemic, from our perspective, and even if they do, editors need to weigh whether something needs to be included. For now, you can't put a peach emoji up against Swift or Martin Luther: yoking them together is preposterous. Drmies (talk) 11:51, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

• First of all, in the sources I mentioned, they use the word "controversy" which is a synonym of "polemic" and I also found in other languages (french) newspaper articles using directly the word polemic to talk about controversial emojis. Moreover, if participants do not include polemicists, it doesn't mean that we don't have to. My intention was to add a significant and original example of polemic to enrich the article. Other examples like skin color emojis raised a polemic. You may be heard about it. AnasBARAKAT TPT (talk) 16:11, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
  • That is incorrect; please consult a good dictionary. But by all means, see if you can get agreement that the peach emoji no longer being shaped like a butt is so important in the long term that we should include this in an encyclopedia. Fo shizzle. Drmies (talk) 13:19, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Icelanders named Þorsteinn Þorsteinsson

Hi, this is a plea for help/advice particularly from admins, and may be interrupted by yet another internet outage. Maybe the neighbor who's been drilling all day for weeks is drilling into a cable, I don't know. Anyway, I just realized that the DAB page I created at Thorsteinn Thorsteinsson now consists of 2 links to the same article. It originally named three people of that name. While I was scratching my head over what had happened to the footballer, PamD posted to my talk page listing several others. (The runner she mentions is the third person I had listed at the DAB page.) What turns out to have happened to the footballer - who was at the undisambiguated title, presumably because his article was created first - is that his page was one of Sander v. Ginkel's and was not checked and rescued during the 90-day period. (See the log.) I dimly remember the article, but not whether all the references checked out. I do remember that he seemed notable enough to have an article, and the article had none of the defamatory stuff S v. G put in some of his articles on athletes. I don't have the resources to create any of the other Þorsteinn Þorsteinsson articles (not least because this is the third time the internet has gone down as I have been writing this!) So what's to be done about the DAB page? Can anyone vouch for the footballer's article and undelete it; in which case I suggest it be moved to Þorsteinn Þorsteinsson (footballer) and the economist/Esperantist left at the undisambiguated title ... ? Or would some kind soul write up one of the others, possibly by translating the Polish Wikipedia article on the runner? Otherwise I guess it has to become a simple redirect to the economist/Esperantist's article, which would be a shame since tehre are other notable people of that name. I will now attempt to save this. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:17, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello Yngvadottir. I restored one version of the footballer's deleted article at User:EdJohnston/temp. You could check that and see if you think it qualifies for mainspace. He did play for the national team, which is one measure of notability. If it qualifies I should figure out how to restore the history, etc. EdJohnston (talk) 16:43, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. Between internet outages ... I'm a bit puzzled. He checks out at both the spreadsheet and the external link to KSİ, which should be decisive: here's his international playing record. (They add that his home team was Fram, but they substantiate only the year of birth, not the date the article gives.) However, I can't find him at all at the English-language source. I searched all the relevant years. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:14, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

If all the information we have would fit in a spreadsheet entry it may not be worth having an article. See all the red links at List of Iceland international footballers. Somehow I doubt the wisdom of making all those links into articles. If the person has even a single mention in the press, it could make a difference. EdJohnston (talk) 17:34, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Well, the thing is, now what should happen to the DAB page? But anyway, in between internet outages, I did some searching. Summary: lots of mentions, no extended coverage, the mentions skew toward his club play and his being listed in the youth team ... and there are soooo many other people with the same name (one of whom may of course also be him) that searching is rather hard.

• 2004 match report
• "All I know is I got the ball and then suddenly I got bopped on the knee." - he was the one who may or may not have kneed the other guy
• getting trampled by a Sparta Prague player in 1987
• listed in the youth team 1981
• ditto
• Youth team listing, photo, match mention - defensive back
• Playing for Fram 1986
• Playing for Fram 1988 - caption
• Playing for Fram 1989, mentioned in match report & depicted - story split across 2 pages
• Played on Olympic team in a friendly against Bordeaux 1987 Yngvadottir (talk) 19:11, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

—And Pam has been extremely nice and created a stub on the runner. And my internet continues bouncing. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:16, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Vandal

Can you deal with this edit, and the one just previous to it, to User talk:Oshwah?  – Corinne (talk) 01:57, 18 June 2017 (UTC) I see it has been removed.  – Corinne (talk) 01:59, 18 June 2017 (UTC)