Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ukraine/Archive 5
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Hi everyone. These guidelines still have a "proposed" sticker on the head, but they appear to be in use across all the Cyrillic languages:
The following is a proposed Wikipedia policy, guideline, or process. The proposal may still be in development, under discussion, or in the process of gathering consensus for adoption. |
Is there any debate about any of the language sections? Does it reflect correctly and completely this WikiProject? If there's a language where there isn't agreement, then shouldn't an "under discussion" sticker be on the individual language and we can work to remove the the "proposal" header above all of them? In ictu oculi (talk) 08:49, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Image for Olena Chekan
There's a newish article Olena Chekan, and I see that the Ukrainian article has an image, Файл:Чекан Олена Василівна.jpg . [1] (sorry, link doesn't work though I copied and pasted it!) Could someone look at the Ukrainian-language copyright info and see whether it can be copied to Commons or English Wikipedia so we can use it in the English article? Thanks. PamD 10:28, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- The file can not be copied on Commons since it is just a random file found on Internet with creator and time of creation unknown, and if we count it as anonimous even then it is not PD until 2083. Since the actress is dead, I think it should be possible to copy the file to en.wp and provide some convincing fair use rationale.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:06, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Category:Ghost towns in Ukraine (Chernobyl disaster)
Category:Ghost towns in Ukraine (Chernobyl disaster), which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for renaming to Category:Ghost towns in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:00, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Crimea annexation RfC
I've opened an RFC on Talk: Annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation on the question
"Should the information about opinion polls, currently in the subsection Crimean public opinion be moved into the subsection Crimean status referendum?"
As this page is of interest to Wikiproject Ukraine, I thought I'd put a notice here. Kalidasa 777 (talk) 05:19, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Borscht FAC
Members of this wikiproject may be interested in the featured article nomination for Borscht. A source review would be particularly appreciated, especially of the Ukrainian-language sources that are used in the article. — Kpalion(talk) 06:07, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
Dead links.Xx236 (talk) 08:39, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Demyanyuk or Dem'yanyuk ?
I assume that Demyanyuk is Russified, from Soviet times.Xx236 (talk) 07:27, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
- No, that's not it. Romanization of Ukrainian in Wikipedia follows the WP:UKR guidelines, which recommend using either the BGN/PCGN romanization system or the Ukrainian National System to transliterate proper names. The latter omits the apostrophe altogether, and the former uses "”", which in practice is often omitted from the transliteration as well. Both approaches would result in "Demyanyuk" being a preferred version. Hope this helps.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 28, 2016; 15:47 (UTC)
Proposed stub category deletions
The related Category:Ukrainian nobility stubs has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for discussion page. |
The related Category:Ukrainian heraldry stubs has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for discussion page. |
Dawynn (talk) 18:13, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
Expand Userbox Section
Could we get our Userbox section to include a table with userbox names, as opposed to just having all userboxes thrown there? An example of this can be seen on the Armenian wikiproject. Could we also get a small sub-heading close to that one to request new Ukraine-related userboxes? I know i had some to request, particularily regarding recognizing/remembering/mourning the Holodomor. YuriNikolai (talk) 20:31, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
Translation request
Hello, please help me translate the following into Ukrainian:
- Please do not contribute text in Ukrainian to English Wikipedia. Your contributions are more than welcome at the Ukrainian Wikipedia.
There is no Category:Non-English user warning templates for editors who inappropriately write on English Wikipedia in Ukrainian. I will give credit to the translator.– Gilliam (talk) 06:01, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
Будь ласка, не додавайте текст українською на англійскій вікіпедії. На ваші доробки чекають у Ukrainian Wikipedia. Anonymous — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.73.32.170 (talk) 15:25, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I've noticed that since the 15th of October 2016 the variable:
pushpin_map = Ukraine
stopped working in Template:Infobox settlement. In fact the map of Ukraine is not shown in the infobox. It have affected all Ukrainian settlements where that infobox is used. (e.g. Sviatoshyn, Ozeryshche (Ukraine), Chernihiv)
Any ideas? Regards, --TimeWaitsForNobody (talk) 01:26, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
- I've found that the problem appears when using the "View -> Zoom In" feature in Firefox otherwise there's OK. --TimeWaitsForNobody (talk) 07:15, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
Discussion at Talk:Oleg Sentsov#Requested move 21 October 2016
The above-referenced discussion regarding the proposed move of Oleg Sentsov to Oleh Sentsov has been relisted on October 30, 2016 for additional comments. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 03:56, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
Can you find refs and save Sofia Okunevska?
See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Women#Can_you_find_refs_and_save_Sofia_Okunevska.3F. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:43, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
New modules
Dear colleagues,
I'd like to introduce new modules for Template:Infobox settlement:
- Module:Location map/data/Ukraine Kiev
- Module:Location map/data/Ukraine Cherkasy Oblast (country map)
- Module:Location map/data/Ukraine Zhytomyr Oblast (country map)
You can find examples how to use them here:
Modules for other Ukrainian's regions can be easily done using commons:Category:Locator maps of oblasts in Ukraine. Regards, --TimeWaitsForNobody (talk) 03:41, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
The discussion currently active at Talk:Hretska Ploshcha#Requested move 19 November 2016 continues the previous exchange on this topic (Talk:Hretska Ploshcha#Requested move 14 September 2016) and features arguments for either variation. Greater participation is invited. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 20:39, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
We need an article for Cannabis in the Ukraine
We now have by-country articles on cannabis for more than half the countries on the planet, but lack one for Ukraine. Anyone here interested in helping fill that need? The page Legality of cannabis by country already provides a basic primary source on laws: Ответственность за выращивание конопли и хранение марихуаны, zakon-online.com.ua, 12 September 2012, retrieved 2014-07-22
If anyone can read Ukrainian news sources the comment on the current state, that would also help build up the sourcing. Thanks! Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 05:20, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Comments by editors familiar with the Ukrainian culture/language are welcome. Thanks --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 20:10, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Cannabis in Ukraine needs improvement
We have a new article Cannabis in Ukraine, but it could really use improvement and expansion, especially from anyone who can read Ukrainian and Russian sources. With a little polishing, it'd also be really useful to improve the translated version for Ukrainian Wikipedia since it's a topic of increasing interesting these days. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 07:46, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
Ukraine Map out of Date
It's been 3 years since Crimea rejoined Russia after their referendum, and the coup in Kiev. The post coup Ukraine state doesn't administer or have any authority over the Crimean peninsula. -G — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.27.196.58 (talk) 14:26, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Ruthenian people categories have been nominated for discussion
Several Ruthenian people categories have been nominated for possible renaming, merging or deletion. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at
- Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2017_February_10#Category:Ruthenian_princesses
- Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2017_February_11#Category:Ruthenian_women
- Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2017_February_12#Ruthenian_people_by_period
- Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2017_February_12#Ruthenian_people_by_descent
on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:11, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
Hi, can somebody translate this from Ukrainian wiki and improve? Shocking that the settlement is missing. We ought to have an article on the big church/monastery as well, right Ser Amantio di Nicolao?♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:34, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Probably. I don't know Ukrainian, sorry - my kin were a little farther north. :-) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:52, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
The above-referenced exchange of views, initiated on March 1, 2017 as a continuation of the previous discussion regarding the same topic, may be of interest. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 13:14, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
Is this decent Ukrainian? User:Siuenti/Критична_соціальна_теорія
Hi, I'd be grateful if any Ukrainian speaker could take a look at User:Siuenti/Критична_соціальна_теорія and tell me if it looks like a good Ukrainian which might be worth transwiki-ing. Here's a sample:
- Термін "критична теорія" має два значення різного походження та історії: перша виникла в соціології та політичній філософії, в той час як друга виникла в літературознавстві та літературній теорії.
- Thanks :) Siuenti (talk) 15:44, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
Discussion at Talk:Valeriya Gontaryeva#Requested move 18 April 2017
The above-referenced discussion regarding the proposed move of Valeriya Gontaryeva to Valeria Gontareva and the associated "G"/"H" surname transliteration may be of interest. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 07:21, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Ukrainian companies with Russian names
Many articles about Ukrainian companies which previously used the Russian transliteration of the title have been changed to use the Ukrainian spelling instead (Pashko (talk · contribs) and Pashko 2 (talk · contribs) renamed many of those). At times this was done even for companies that no longer exist and always used the Russian spelling during their existence, or still exist and chose to retain the Russian variant of their names. Dnepr (motorcycle) was a notable case (see this image) and has already been renamed; I also noticed the same issue with the article Kyivnaukfilm (which also used Russian spelling before its demise) and there are probably countless similar cases. Given that this is a controversial matter, I thought it was better to seek some feedback from this wikiproject before nominating any of them for renaming.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 18:14, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
- The discussion regarding the above-referenced topic may be found at Talk:Kyivnaukfilm#Requested move 21 July 2017 —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 16:04, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
Need help with Cyrillic to finish those descriptions
Recently I've visited Lychakiv Cemetery, and I was surprised many tombstones were not on Commons yet, even for some notable people. Sadly, I was in a hurry, so couldn't take more then few dozen photos - I think a dedicated wiki photo taking event would be a good idea. In any case, here are photos of graves which use Cyrillic alphabet which I cannot read - if you can ID them, please add the Cyrillic and transcribed names to the images and possibly relevant categories and/or include them in the relevant Wiki articles:
- File:Lwow (Lviv) - Cmentarz Łyczakowski (Lychakiv Cemetery) - summer 2017 055.JPG/File:Lwow (Lviv) - Cmentarz Łyczakowski (Lychakiv Cemetery) - summer 2017 056.JPG
- File:Lwow (Lviv) - Cmentarz Łyczakowski (Lychakiv Cemetery) - summer 2017 051.JPG
- File:Lwow (Lviv) - Cmentarz Łyczakowski (Lychakiv Cemetery) - summer 2017 043.JPG
- File:Lwow (Lviv) - Cmentarz Łyczakowski (Lychakiv Cemetery) - summer 2017 042.JPG
- File:Lwow (Lviv) - Cmentarz Łyczakowski (Lychakiv Cemetery) - summer 2017 019.JPG
- File:Lwow (Lviv) - Cmentarz Łyczakowski (Lychakiv Cemetery) - summer 2017 018.JPG (see the black plate on the left)
I think that's it for now. Hope that helps with illustrating some articles! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:17, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
- 055.JPG has now been appended to the article Solomiya Krushelnytska, although, since it nearly duplicates the 2006 photo already there, simply adding it to Commons Category:Solomiya Krushelnytska may suffice.
- 051.JPG indicates D. M. Popov 17 X 1913 — 27 X 1963 DEAR HUSBAND AND FATHER FROM WIFE AND CHILDREN
- 043.JPG indicates Colonel [POLKOVNIK] M.I. Kazakov 10.I.1917 — 5.IV.1971 FINAL GIFT FROM WIFE AND DAUGHTER-IN-LAW
- 042.JPG is too deteriorated to decipher properly. The given name is Serhij and the family name appears to be Kuzynes'kij or Kuz'nims'kij. The dates are illegible: ?.10.19XX—X.XX.XXXX.
- 019.JPG may be appended to the Polish Wikipedia article Leopold Lewicki (also in Russian and Ukrainian Wikipedias) and Commons Category:Grave of Leopold Levytskyi
- 018.JPG the black plate on the left lists Maria Bałko 1900–1981 and Petro Bałko 1893–1982 (since there is no soft sign, the equivalent would be the Polish "Bałko", rather than "Balko").
Hopefully, someone else may be able to fill in the gaps. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 20:58, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
Another move discussion for Kiev → Kyiv
Yet again an attempt is being made to change the main title header from Kiev to Kyiv. Greater participation in the !voting process is invited. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 17:29, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
- These are not "votes". In the end, it all comes down to Wikipedia policy and which side of the discussion has a greater adherence to policy and greater evidence for its position. The majority doesn't always get its way. --Taivo (talk) 17:33, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
- Each participant is indicating Oppose or Support and the description at WP:!VOTE explains that "... a reference to a "!vote" or "!voting" is a reminder and affirmation that the writer's comments in a poll, and the comments by others, are not voting, but are just offering individual views in a consensus-building discussion". As for "Wikipedia policy and which side of the discussion has a greater adherence to policy and greater evidence for its position", such adherence and evidence are claimed by both sides in this particular disagreement and the majority of previous discussions have been closed as no consensus. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 18:01, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
Discussion at Talk:Solomianka Raion#Requested move 20 October 2017
The above-referenced discussion regarding the proposed move of Solomianka Raion to Solomianka District may be of interest. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 08:06, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Category:Knights Grand Cross of the Order of Saint Stanislaus (Ukrainian) has been nominated for discussion
Category:Knights Grand Cross of the Order of Saint Stanislaus (Ukrainian), which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:14, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
Disambiguation links on pages tagged by this wikiproject
Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.
A list of the relevant links on pages which fall within the remit of this wikiproject can be found at http://69.142.160.183/~dispenser/cgi-bin/topic_points.py?banner=WikiProject_Ukraine
Please take a few minutes to help make these more useful to our readers.— Rod talk 19:49, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
Designation of terrorism in Ukraine
I think we finally need to have a good discussion of what can be called terrorism and what should not be called terrorism in the contexct of the War in Donbass. I opened the topic at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard#Designation of terrorism in Ukraine for a preliminary discussion. I am mostly interested in opinion of uninvolved users, but all opinions are obviously welcome.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:34, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
Editors who may wish to participate, can access the discussion at the page specially designed for that topic, Talk:Kiev/naming. Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 09:20, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
- Canvassing?--Ymblanter (talk) 09:30, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
- Not at all. This is my sole notification on the subject and, although the naming discussion comes up regularly, I have never previously posted any announcements about it. Also, WikiProject talk pages represent a form of announcement board for all users, since not all interested editors keep individual talk pages on their watchlist. Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 10:07, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Canvassing says "Votestacking is an attempt to sway consensus by selectively notifying editors who have or are thought to have a predetermined point of view or opinion". User reading this noticeboard are likely to have an opinion on the subject which coincides with your opinion.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:17, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
- Not at all. This is my sole notification on the subject and, although the naming discussion comes up regularly, I have never previously posted any announcements about it. Also, WikiProject talk pages represent a form of announcement board for all users, since not all interested editors keep individual talk pages on their watchlist. Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 10:07, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
Act Zluky and related articles
Would someone like to work on this topic and related articles? It would be great to have them improved. --Ата (talk) 13:21, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
Persecution of Eastern Orthodox Christians listed at Requested moves
A requested move discussion has been initiated for Persecution of Eastern Orthodox Christians to be moved to Anti-Eastern Orthodox sentiment. This page is of interest to several relating WikiProjects and interested users may want to participate in the discussion here. Sorabino (talk) 21:48, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
Title: "Slavic paganism" or "Slavic religion"?
More opinions needed in this discussion.--Eckhardt Etheling (talk) 07:36, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Focus on Ukraine at Women in Red
In May 2018, in conjunction with m:Wikimedia CEE Spring 2018/Article Lists, Women in Red is focusing on the countries of Central and Eastern Europe. We hope there will be contributions on Ukrainian women.
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Help requested from speakers of Ukrainian to assess reliability of source
Hello. Could anyone who can read Ukrainian take a look at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Help with assessing reliability of Ukrainian site used in Tetyana Ramus article and offer a view on the nature and reliability of the source being discussed there? Cordless Larry (talk) 07:39, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject
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Update Map
Ukraine icon map is 4 years out of date.
-G
- above added to this page on june 4 2017. Coolabahapple (talk) 04:59, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Cyrillic advice merge
Please see Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Merge the Cyrillic advice to one guideline
— SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 07:03, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- That’s been archived at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Archive_206#Merge_the_Cyrillic_advice_to_one_guideline. —Michael Z. 2018-08-27 15:04 z
Standardize romanization rules
I plan to change our Ukrainian romanization guideline to recommend the Ukrainian National scheme, when I get around to it. Comments here: Wikipedia talk:Romanization of Ukrainian#Notice: changing to the National System 2010. —Michael Z. 2018-08-27 15:07 z
- That would require editing and moving thousands of pages. Are you willing to take that?--Ymblanter (talk) 15:32, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
- Please continue discussion at the proposal: Wikipedia talk:Romanization of Ukrainian#Notice: changing to the National System 2010. —Michael Z. 2018-09-29 16:30 z
A discussion regarding transliteration of the above name is at Talk:Mykhajlo Levitsky#Rename. Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:02, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Splitting a huge navbox
Interested editors are invited to comment on the proposal I made there: Template talk:Ukrainian crisis navbox#Split navbox. — JFG talk 20:11, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Can please somebody help me fix this article? It is my old article with several people collaborating on it. Somebody arbitrarily moved this article (and with a mistake in the title on top of that), so I emotionally tried to fix after not really doing anything on Wikipedia for several years. Can somebody fix it and move it back to old name? thank you Ivan2007 (talk) 18:00, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
"The Executed Renaissance" needs assessment and citations
Hi. The article The Executed Renaissance needs citations and assessing. Thanks! Thinker78 (talk) 05:43, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
New article on Euromaidan Press
New article, on Euromaidan Press. Sagecandor (talk) 13:17, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
RfC on election/referendum naming format
An RfC on moving the year from the end to the start of article titles (e.g. South African general election, 2019 to 2019 South African general election) has been reopened for further comment, including on whether a bot could be used move the articles if it closed in favour of the change: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (government and legislation)#Proposed change to election/referendum naming format. Cheers, Number 57 15:41, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
Hungarian irredentism
Atack with hungarian point of view on Hungarian irredentism and Magyaron pages. Deleting sources and rewriting meaning. Some users started WP:EW.--PsichoPuzo (talk) 14:39, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
- Excuse me, why are you misleading the community? Nobody attacked you, on the contrary, you simply do not understand or know basic WP rules and principles, as your were told [[2]] here. Moreover, you were the one who clearly started an edit warring by avoiding dispute resolution and building consensus, because after you were asked to do so you responded again with a revert.(KIENGIR (talk) 14:53, 28 October 2018 (UTC))
Kateryna Handziuk
She just died. Please help find sources about her life: Kateryna Handziuk
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 17:43, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
Help needed with a Ukrainian-language video
Would anyone here be so kind as to help me transcribe what the lady says in this video about borscht cooking in the Poltava region? The video is already used to illustrate the featured article about borscht, but it would benefit from having English subtitles. Knowing Polish and Russian, I should be able to translate a Ukrainian text into English, but I can't really understand spoken Ukrainian. This is why I'm asking for a transcript. I can then to do the rest (translation and adding subtitles to the video). — Kpalion(talk) 16:31, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
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I've created an article for him a few weeks ago, but it still does not have a uk-interwiki. Does he really not have an article there? Also, can someone add his name spelled in Cyrillic to the article? TIA. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:22, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
Merger discussion about Cossack Hetmanate and Ottoman Ukraine
This Ukraine related merger discussion need more involvement to reach consensus. Your input would be appreciated!Trialpears (talk) 21:00, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
Kharkov Governorate vs Little Russia vs UNR
I am not sure where best to note this, because it is regarding several article differences.
The Little Russia stub articles list two historical date ranges from to 1700s to 1800s, for the administrative or territorial classification, which existed during these times. Yet, a map dated 1904, on the Ukraine article, reflects the Little Russia region as well. This confuses me, because I am not finding this 1900s time period in the Little Russia articles, but the map appears to inducate the classification still existed until at least the earliest years of the 1900s.
The Kharkov Governorate articles similarly indicate some time periods in the 18th and 19th centuries, as well as referencing its establishment within the Soviet era beginning 1918. Does this mean this designation came and went and came again, or do these names just differ depending on the source country designating such?
To add to my confusion, the article about the short-lived Ukranian National Republic lists a different start date between articles. The UNR article references June 10, 1917. The Ukraine article indicates June 23, 1917. This probably is not due to sources based on before vs after the regional Gregorian Calendar switch over, but I personally had similar calendar trouble researching a relative actually born on June 10, 1917 in Charkow, AKA Kharkov AKA Kharkiv.
In attempting to piece together the data from and differences between the various artices, I have ended up with asdumptions that are probably quite incorrect. My assumptions are that either Little Russia or the Kharkov Governorate, depending on which article, transitioned into the Ukranian National Republic on June 10 or 23, 1917. Then, the UNR transitioned into, or back into, the Kharkov Governate or Kharkiv Governate under Soviet rule in 1918.
If all these differences can be resolved, it might help other readers. On a personal note, it would help me determine exactly what province, and country or empire my relative was born under in Charkow, June 10, 1917. Tesseract501 (talk) 17:23, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
- The last question is the easiest. Your relative was born in the Russian Provisional Government (a successor of the Russian Empire) which was governed from Saint Petersburg by the so-called Russian Provisional Government, in Kharkiv Governorate. Concerning the first part, the governorates were the administrative divisions of the Russian Empire and later, for some time, also of the successor states, until they were gradually abolished in the 1920s. Indeed, some of them were primarily inhabited by Ukrainians, but if we are talking about Ukrainian states, these have nothing to do with the governorates. The Ukrainian states were the Ukranian National Republic and then the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic which was one of the founders of the Soviet Union in 1922.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:47, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
A bit of edit warring going on in this article, if anyone would like to take a look. See talkpage. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:41, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
Nomination of Portal:Crimea for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Crimea is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Crimea until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
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Second opinion on new page
This new page Kurds'komu bratovi could use some reviewing since I have been working on it. Thanks in advance. --Ahmedo Semsurî (talk) 13:13, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Help with a name?
How do Ukrainians spell Nikita Krylov? If someone could add it next to his name, that'd be cool, but so would just letting me know. Thanks. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:56, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, nevermind. I forgot Google Translate existed. Микита Крилов, yes? InedibleHulk (talk) 00:58, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.
We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:25, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
I have updated Wikipedia’s guideline as per discussions there. The default romanization system for Wikipedia is the Ukrainian National System that is currently used for Ukrainian geographic names, in Ukrainian passports, in the United Nations, and in most English-language media. This also simplifies the guideline.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mzajac (talk • contribs) 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Home Army Request for Comments: German casualties
Talk:Home Army/Archive 6#Request for Comments: German casualties: watchers here may comment.--JoeZ451 (talk) 16:29, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Priashevshchina
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Priashevshchina. DBigXrayᗙ 09:12, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Locality categorization by historical subdivisions
Your input about the categorization of settlements is requested at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: Locality categorization by historical subdivisions. Thank you, Renata (talk) 22:32, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Spelling discrepancy between a template and an article name
There is a useful template {{Ukraine Labelled Map}} that shows the names of the oblasts in Ukraine. But the template uses the name "Zaporizhzhia Oblast" whereas the article is named "Zaporizhia Oblast". It would be less confusing to readers if either the template were modified to use the same spelling as the article name, or the other way round. Toddy1 (talk) 18:45, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
- I amended the template. It is clear that if someone is unhappy with the name they should start with RM at the talk page of Zaporizhia.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:46, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Category:Apparat of the Communist Party of Ukraine has been nominated for renaming to Category:Organization of the Communist Party of Ukraine
Category:Apparat of the Communist Party of Ukraine has been nominated for renaming to Category:Organization of the Communist Party of Ukraine. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Place Clichy (talk) 14:23, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
Article titles for rivers in Russia, Ukraine and Belarus
You are invited to participate in the discussion about article titles for rivers in Russia, Ukraine and Belarus at WT:RIVERS#Article titles for rivers in Russia, Ukraine and Belarus. Markussep Talk 14:44, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
- The conclusion of the discussion is that articles about rivers in Russia, Ukraine and Belarus should be titled "X" if they're the only or primary topic (for example Volga, Yenisei, Irtysh, Berezina) and "X (river)" if disambiguation is needed and they are not obviously the primary topic (for example Kostroma (river), Don (river), Pripyat (river)). If there are more rivers with the same name, parentheses will be used for disambiguation, see WP:NCRIVER. I will start moving articles soon. Markussep Talk 08:58, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Displaying Russian names as footnotes in former Soviet Union locations?
Please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Soviet_Union#Display_Russian_names_in_footnotes_of_locations_in_the_former_Soviet_Union? for a discussion on whether the Russian names should be put in footnotes in articles about former Soviet Union locations (which existed at the time of the Soviet Union) WhisperToMe (talk) 08:30, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
This draft article is based almost entirely on sources in Ukranian. Please help to determine whether the subject is notable by evaluating the sources for independence, reliability and depth of coverage. Thanks Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:08, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Reliability of rbc.ua
Input is requested at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Rbc.ru_and_rbc.ua. Thanks. buidhe 07:37, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Hi all, any feedback on this RFC or improving the article generally would be much appreciated, thanks in advance. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:Svoboda_(political_party)#rfc_2241934 Bacondrum (talk) 22:14, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
Raions
I am wondering what is going to be a proper approach regarding the reduction of Ukrainian raions to from 400 to 130? --Andrei (talk) 13:43, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Possible interest in discussion on blacklisted source
This discussion about the deprecation and blacklisting of the media outlet 112 Ukraine may be of interest. Since this is a WikiProject about this region, I figured you might have some background on this matter. Jlevi (talk) 12:22, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
"P:UKR/NEW" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect P:UKR/NEW. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 23#P:UKR/NEW until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. —Cryptic 02:46, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
Ukraine establishment history
Need help in the discussion. There's an attempt to remove information about early Ukrainian states from the infobox without arguments, despite similar information is mentioned in arcticles about other Eastern European countries.--Dƶoxar (talk) 00:03, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Contemporary alternative orthography
- https://bitter-onion.livejournal.com/3171617.html
- https://ueartemis.livejournal.com/25847.html
- https://lingvoforum.net/index.php?topic=101757.0
- https://forum.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?t=51315
- https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Обговорення:Грецька_абетка#Украинська_грецька_абетка — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.114.146.60 (talk) 05:25, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
Draft:Serhiy_Yakovlevych_Martyniuk
Hello. Please could someone help with evaluating the notability of this biography? Draft:Serhiy_Yakovlevych_Martyniuk Thanks. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 08:38, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Curb Safe Charmer:, the article may be notable, but it looks like it was created through rough translation, possibly google with mixture of Russian romanization. The article uses some weird place names like Baltic district in Odessa region (like Baltic states, I guess). There is no such place and never existed. However there is Balta Raion near historic Codima-Podolie area. Also it looks as a self promotional piece, rather than a normal article. It is kind of difficult to get a clear idea, due to rough translation, but looking over the references provided, Martyniuk is a local activist of Balta Raion in Odessa Oblast, a patriot. He served as a representative in Balta Raion council and ran for Kiev City council and Verkhovna Rada. The article lists whole bunch of awards, but never explains how and for what feats they were awarded. The whole article could and should be shortened to may be two three sentences from the information it contains now. In my opinion, the article has weak notability, but if it is insisted to be introduced, it needs serious remake. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 16:00, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Moving Kiev Oblast to Kyiv Oblast
There is resistance to a speedy move of that article. I’m holding a straw poll to try to convince any opposing editors that an RM is not necessary or desirable. Please just leave your opinion at talk:Kiev Oblast#Straw poll: how to move Kiev Oblast → Kyiv Oblast. Thanks. —Michael Z. 16:39, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Spelling of Kyiv
There’s a broad conversation about using different spellings of Kyiv in article titles in certain subjects, at talk:Kyiv#Related articles. This may affect some guidelines. —Michael Z. 20:19, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
Two discussions at WP:P-NUK
There are two ongoing discussions at WP:P-NUK that would benefit from more participation. One is about what the page should say about how we should refer to Kyiv in articles, and the other is about how we should title Hromada-related articles. Please come over and join the discussion. RGloucester — ☎ 15:43, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Updates due to the 2020 Administrative reform
As a result of the reform, we have several hundred outdated articles. I have started to update them, and I generally plan to do this work myself, however, if someone is interested in doing this the activity must be coordinated. I have (almost) finished updating articles for Cherkasy Oblast. Examples of how I believe the articles must look like after the update are:
- Drabiv Raion - abolished raions; also backlinks need to be checked and acted on;
- Vatutine - abolished municipalities (cities of oblast significance);
- Zvenyhorodka Raion - expanded raions; (there are no new raions such as Kamianske Raion in Cherkasy Oblast, but it is pretty clear how these articles would look like);
- Mankivka - center of abolished raions;
- Vynohrad, Cherkasy Oblast - random localities in abolished raions.
I will appreciate following this examples (again, normally I am planning to do it myself). Donetsk, Luhansk Oblasts and Crimea obviously require special treatment; I will be doing them last.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:26, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
Were Ukrainian children kidnapped by the Nazis too?
There have recently been some attempts at rewriting Kidnapping of children by Nazi Germany, and one of the issues is whether the Nazis were kidnapping primarily Polish children, of more general, Slavic (Polish and Soviet/Ukrainian). Anyone who is interested in this topic, please consider joining this discussion. Cheers, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:09, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
Every so often anonymous users change the translated name for Oleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev. This edit, for example, just happened and I have no way of being confident in the edit. Can someone who speaks Ukrainian confirm the proper spelling and leave it on the talk page, just so I know what to revert to when the article is inevitably vandalized? The player's bio is listed here, although this may be in Russian. There's also this. Any help appreciated! Alyo (chat·edits) 23:01, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
- At this point, the Ukrainian name is not referenced and as such is a BLP violation and must be removed.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:46, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ymblanter, meaning to only refer to his name in Russian? This seems like...not the best option, but I also know nothing about those two languages. Is there any help to be found on his Ukranian page? Since he is Ukranian, it does seem odd to me to entirely remove the Ukrainian name, even if sources that use his full name are all in Russian. Alyo (chat·edits) 07:05, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- The Ukrainian Wikipedia says Костилєв which is indeed what one would expect by using the reverse WP:UKR but it is not referenced either. I do not know, removing the Cyrillic name at all is one option, leaving Russian is another one (but I am sure it will be constantly subject to edits similar to what you have shown).--Ymblanter (talk) 07:11, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- I see. Well, I'll continue to look for a Ukrainian source--and if anyone who speaks the language finds one, please ping me. Thanks for your help! Alyo (chat·edits) 17:41, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- The Ukrainian Wikipedia says Костилєв which is indeed what one would expect by using the reverse WP:UKR but it is not referenced either. I do not know, removing the Cyrillic name at all is one option, leaving Russian is another one (but I am sure it will be constantly subject to edits similar to what you have shown).--Ymblanter (talk) 07:11, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ymblanter, meaning to only refer to his name in Russian? This seems like...not the best option, but I also know nothing about those two languages. Is there any help to be found on his Ukranian page? Since he is Ukranian, it does seem odd to me to entirely remove the Ukrainian name, even if sources that use his full name are all in Russian. Alyo (chat·edits) 07:05, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
Actually, Ymblanter, one further question. What is the difference between "Олександр Костильєв Камень" (as currently listed on the en-wp page) and "Олександр Олегович Костилєв" on the uk-wp page? I assume the former is vandalism, based on google translate? Alyo (chat·edits) 17:48, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- To me, Камень does not make sense in this context, it literally means "stone" and might be some previous nickname, but I do not see any evidence this being the case. Олегович is a patronymic (which just means his father's name is/ was Oleh).--Ymblanter (talk) 17:54, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- I went back through the history and I'm all but positive that's vandalism. Appreciate the confirmation. Alyo (chat·edits) 18:00, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
Scope of List of people from Ukraine
I started a RfC at Talk:List of people from Ukraine#Scope of the list to define the scope.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:07, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Why does Kyiv Airport lead to Kyiv International Airport (Zhuliany)? Why not a disambig?
Disambiguation pages/redirects are usually based on what is the more prominent subject or if there is one? I suspect Boryspil International Airport is more well known/prominent than Kyiv International Airport (Zhuliany) so shouldn't "Kyiv Airport" go to the former?
Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 00:30, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
- Because Kyiv is literally the name of IEV? --Base (talk) 10:16, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
Holodomor
Hello an editor is proposing to remove large amounts of information and sources about the Holodomor from Holodomor in modern politics. Interested editors can help by providing feedback on the talk page and additional references for the content. Thanks, // Timothy :: talk 12:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Notability of a political party
Hi. I found this article: Ukrainian Party "Green Planet". I'm wondering whether it passes Wikipedia's notability requirements. There's certainly no significant coverage in English-language sources, but as I don't speak Ukrainian, I can't judge whether there is significant coverage in Ukrainian. It would also be good to know if this party has ever won any seats in national, regional, or local elections. I hope someone can tell me this! Lennart97 (talk) 12:10, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
I also wonder about the notability of said party's founder Natalya Zemna, a "herbalist and healer" who supposedly "recovered from a complicated heart condition by self-administering herbal remedies". Looking at the article's sources, I don't get the impression that any of it is significant, indepedent coverage. But again, I'm not Ukrainian so I'd appreciate some help. Lennart97 (talk) 21:29, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
I've nominated both of them for deletion, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ukrainian Party "Green Planet" and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Natalya Zemna. Input is still very welcome. Lennart97 (talk) 23:23, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
FAR of St. Michael's Golden-Domed Monastery
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New Wikipedia writing challenge – it's about Ukraine
Hello, dear Wikipedians!
Wikimedia Ukraine, in cooperation with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine and Ukrainian Institute, has launched a new writing challenge in Wikipedia.
"Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month" lasts from 10 February to 10 March 2021. The campaign is dedicated to famous Ukrainian artists of cinema, music, literature, architecture, design, who have made a significant contribution to world culture and about whom there are no articles in Wikipedia.
Please help us invite to this challenge more people! I hope that it will help those who long wanted to read (and write) more about Ukraine finally have an excuse for it -- ViraMotorko (WMUA) (talk) 15:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
Types of hromadas
Now, we need to agree how we call different type of amalhamated hromadas, which in Ukrainian are міська громада, селищна громада, and сільська громада. One option would be to call them city hromada, settlement hroada, and village hromada. The drawbacks are that this is not English, and in some cases might be misleading (for example, a rural settlement which is not a village can be the seat of a village hromada). Another option, which I so far was using, is to use urban hromada and rural hrtomada. This is much better English, but this classification does not discriminate between міська громада and селищна громада. My preference is the second one, but we need to discuss the terms before I add so many of them that correction would become impractical. So far I already have added them in several hundred articles.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:36, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Ookrainer, RGloucester, Yulia Romero, Aleksandr Grigoryev, and Микола Василечко: as the only users I know who could potentially care.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:40, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ymblanter, thank you, for considering my opinion. I think your proposition is fine if it is used for general purpose description or brevity, but, if need to be disambiguate between an urban-type settlement and city, I think we should stick to the accepted norms. The introduction of "amalgamated" is very weird. Itself, the word hromada is pretty unique and, unlike the Ukrainian language that requires disambiguation, the use of amalgamated, I think, is overkill. It is not known to me the reasoning why there was introduced the word amalgamated over more common united, and what made the process of amalgamation to prevail over the process of bringing together in closer ties of union. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 21:55, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- May be to be specific I am talking about usage like here: Vyzhnytsia Raion. I was not planning to use the word "amalgamated" in the links.--Ymblanter (talk) 22:01, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'm fully agree with Aleksandr Grigoryev that the word hromada is pretty unique and the use of "amalgamated" is overkill. But RGloucester wants very much to keep hromada article about hromadas before reform and amalgamated hromada article about hromadas after reform apart, even though Ukrainian law explicitly states that the word “amalgamated” should not used in the name of a territorial hromadas. --Ookrainer (talk) 11:38, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- Per Ookrainer - without “amalgamated”. But also my own opinion: I think that the clarification of urban, rural settlement, village - is superfluous. Just, for example, «Ternopil Hromada». Urban, rural settlement, village - definition in the text of the introduction. --Микола Василечко (talk) 17:08, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ymblanter, thank you, for considering my opinion. I think your proposition is fine if it is used for general purpose description or brevity, but, if need to be disambiguate between an urban-type settlement and city, I think we should stick to the accepted norms. The introduction of "amalgamated" is very weird. Itself, the word hromada is pretty unique and, unlike the Ukrainian language that requires disambiguation, the use of amalgamated, I think, is overkill. It is not known to me the reasoning why there was introduced the word amalgamated over more common united, and what made the process of amalgamation to prevail over the process of bringing together in closer ties of union. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 21:55, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- For me use of urban hromada and rural hromada seems better. --Ookrainer (talk) 11:38, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- 'Amalgamated' is a necessary disambiguator. There is no other way to distinguish between new and old hromadas, especially where these overlap. I do not think the urban/rural clarification is necessary, as it serves no distinct purpose in administrative terms. That is why it was agreed at WP:P-NUK that the correct way to refer to these is Ternopil Amalgamated Hromada, &c., without the urban/rural clarification and retaining 'amalgamated' so as not to create any confusion between the old governmental form of Ternopil and the new one. 'Amalgamated' was chosen over 'united' because it was found to be more common when used with 'hromada' (as opposed to the English-translated 'united territorial community'), and indeed, because it is more sound as an English translation. Please note that this name is used by the Association of Amalgamated Hromadas. RGloucester — ☎ 18:10, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- I actually have been on the look-out for (Ukrainian) journalistic explanations about hromadas.... but it was until today and this request by Ymblanter that there are 3 kinds of hromada's (міська громада, селищна громада, and сільська громада). But I can not find (on the internet) 'why there are these 3 different names in use..... I assume they all have the same powers and rights? By the way, on decentralization.gov.ua (the official government website on decentralisation) the translations of the 3 hromadas is "city hromada", "town hromada" and "rural hromada"..... (for me city and town are synonyms.... The use of hromada names on decentralization.gov.ua is therefore (also) misleading.....)
These hromadas seems to be designed to confuse me....
- Anyway.... I think that (therefore) it is best to use the terms urban hromada and rural hromada. For readers this can make clear that the hromada is predominantly rural or urban. Especially since there seems to be no difference between the powers and administrative subdivision of the 3 this seems to be the way to do it, it would be different if the 3 kinds of hromada's were a subdivision of the hromada administrative unit. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:29, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- My understanding is that these are not really 'types' of hromada, but rather a naming scheme based on the former status of the new administrative seat of the new amalgamated hromada. Therefore, in legislation, Ternopil Amalgamated Hromada will called 'Ternopil City Hromada', because the city of regional significance of Ternopil is its seat. Likewise, a hromada with its seat in a rural settlement becomes a 'rural hromada', &c. But, again, there is no functional difference between these as actual units. They all have the same powers. RGloucester — ☎ 04:45, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
- Anyway.... I think that (therefore) it is best to use the terms urban hromada and rural hromada. For readers this can make clear that the hromada is predominantly rural or urban. Especially since there seems to be no difference between the powers and administrative subdivision of the 3 this seems to be the way to do it, it would be different if the 3 kinds of hromada's were a subdivision of the hromada administrative unit. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:29, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation RGloucester , I also found nothing to indicate that they all not have the same powers. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 17:00, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hello all. Firstly, hromadas doesn't 'Amalgamated' already, because Verkhovna Rada in April 2020 have passed the law and have changed name of gromadas from amalgamated territorial hromadas to territorial hromadas. And we renamed article about hromadas in uk-wiki to territorial hromada. So it only territorial, not amalgamated. Part of name 'amalgamated' is in the past. Forget it.
Secondly, there are 3 kinds of gromadas - city, settlement (town) and rural. Using of this kinds in the name of articles is related to tradition of naming councils (city, settlement and rural), type of the administrative center (city, urban-type settlement or village) of the gromada and help for difference of hromadas which have the same name. --Kharkivian (talk) 10:27, 14 January 2021 (UTC)- Just to avoid misunderstanding, we do not use towns for urban-type settlements.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:30, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, of course. I know it. But we use towns for urban-type settlements often in Ukraine. This haven't no issue to this discussion. --Kharkivian (talk) 10:36, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- Just to avoid misunderstanding, we do not use towns for urban-type settlements.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:30, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- @NickK and Ahonc: fyi. --Kharkivian (talk) 10:36, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- Looks like the official terms are urban hromada, settlement hromada and rural hromada — NickK (talk) 13:02, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, this is probably the best solution.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:24, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- Indeed, it's a marvel that such clear guidelines on how to refer to these in English have actually been released! It seems we should use "amalgamated hromada" for the general class, "urban hromada" for amalgamated hromadas with their seat in a city, "settlement hromada" for those with their seat in an urban-type settlement, and "rural hromada" for those with their seat in a village. Any objections? RGloucester — ☎ 00:12, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- The RfC expired, and, absent objections, I am going to implement this next week (when I am done with updating the raions, I still have three Oblasts left).--Ymblanter (talk) 16:08, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- Indeed, it's a marvel that such clear guidelines on how to refer to these in English have actually been released! It seems we should use "amalgamated hromada" for the general class, "urban hromada" for amalgamated hromadas with their seat in a city, "settlement hromada" for those with their seat in an urban-type settlement, and "rural hromada" for those with their seat in a village. Any objections? RGloucester — ☎ 00:12, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- A bit later than I thought, but starting implementing urban hromada, settlement hromada and rural hromada now.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:36, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Kommersant has an RFC
Kommersant has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 06:30, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
FAR notice
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Proposed MoS addition on optional stress marking in Ukrainian, Russian, Japanese, Korean, etc.
Please see: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#RfC?, for a proposal relating to optional characters/marks for indicating vocal stress, used in some foreign languages, include "ruby" characters for Japanese and Korean, and znaki udareniya marks in Ukrainian and Russian. The short version is that, based on a rule already long found in MOS:JAPAN and consonant with WP:NOTDICT policy, MoS would instruct (in MOS:FOREIGN) not to use these marks (primarily intended for pedagogical purposes) except in unusual circumstances, like direct quotation, or discussion of the marks themselves. Target date for implementation is April 21. PS: This does not relate to Vietnamese tone marks. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 19:39, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Romanization of Rusyn
I’ve created an information page at WP:RUSYN. —Michael Z. 23:20, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Highest railway in Ukraine?
If you know the answer, make sure to add it to relevant wiki pages, especially to List of highest railways by country. Thanks! Zach (Talk) 21:23, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
File: Coat of arms of Prince Yuri.png is nominated for deletion in Commons due to a possible inaccuracy
Hello, Ukrainians, there is a discussion created by one of the Ukrainians about a modern interpretation of a historical Ukrainian seal of Yuri II Boleslav. Your opinion about its accuracy would be very welcome as it is nominated for deletion since December 2020. The discussion of this nomination can be found here.
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Hello, Ukrainian neighbours. Perhaps you'd like to support me there. I removed Russian categories from the article as it's not a Russian dance. SylwiaS | talk 16:37, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Requested move 8 June 2021
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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Elli (talk | contribs) 20:34, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
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- Baklanova Muraviyka → Baklanova Muraviika
- Hremyach → Hremiach
- Stary Vovchynets → Staryi Vovchynets
- Zamostya → Zamostia
- Milieve → Miliieve
- Zvenyachyn → Zveniachyn
- Boyanchuk → Boianchuk
- Verkhnya Lypytsya → Verkhnia Lypytsia
- Kostantyvka → Kostiantivka
- Novooleksiyivka → Novooleksiivka
- Tavriysk → Tavriisk
- Verkhniy Rohachyk → Verkhnii Rohachyk
- Illyria (village) → Illiriia
- Mykolayivka, Stanytsia-Luhanska Raion → Mykolaivka, Luhansk Oblast
- Rannya Zorya → Rannia Zoria
- Hodovytsa → Hodovytsia
- Sielec, Drohobych Raion → Selets
- Staryiy Yarychiv → Staryi Yarychiv
- Ternopillja → Ternopillia
- Voloscha → Voloshcha
- Voyutychi → Voiutychi
- Vypuchki → Vypuchky
- Zabolotsi → Zabolottsi
- Dolishniy Luzhok → Dolishnii Luzhok
- Berestyany → Berestiany
- Hordynya → Hordynia
- Kozyova → Kozova, Lviv Oblast
- Oryavchyk → Oriavchyk
- Volosyanka, Skole Raion → Volosianka
- Bob'iatyn → Bobiatyn
- Bacina, Lviv Oblast → Bachyna
- Bilici, Lviv Oblast → Bilychi
- Borsevici, Lviv Oblast → Borshevychi
- Haschiv → Khashchiv
- Kryntyata → Kryntiata
- Mala Volosyanka → Mala Volosianka
- Nyzhniy Turiv → Nyzhnii Turiv
- Nyzhnya Yablunka → Nyzhnia Yablunka
- Nyzhnye → Nyzhnie
- Verkhne → Verkhnie
- Verkhne Vysotske → Verkhnie Vysotske
- Verkhnia Jablunka → Verkhnia Yablunka
- Verkhniy Turiv → Verkhnii Turiv
- Yasenytsya → Yasenytsia
- Zubrytsya → Zubrytsia
- Berdyhiv → Berdykhiv
– Correct romanization per WP:UKR. These changes serve the article naming WP:CRITERIA of recognizability, naturalness, precision, conciseness, and consistency.
These are all small settlements in Ukraine. The current article names have spellings according to a less-appropriate standard, have non-Ukrainian spelling, or are just quirky or misspelled. I have not tested to see if any of the subjects have only a single most WP:COMMONNAME, but if they do then it is most likely to correspond to our standard romanization. Each proposed spelling is romanized according to the Ukrainian National system, which derives the official Latin-alphabet spelling, has been adopted by the UNGEGN and BGN/PCGN (source of Ukrainian place-name spellings on the authoritative GeoNames database), and in each of these cases also corresponds to a variant of the widely used modified Library of Congress romanization.
I confirmed Ukrainian names by looking at the corresponding article on Ukrainian Wikipedia. Checked each new title for conflicts and adjusted the title disambiguation. Some of these have been renamed previously, but without any discussion. —Michael Z. 20:30, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment. Makes sense, there is a lot of disorder in Ukrainian names, in particular in western oblasts. Note that if Verkhniy Rohachyk has been moved Verkhniy Rohachyk Raion must be moved as well.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:45, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. I didn’t look hard for that, because it is not easy for me to confirm the state of the transitioning raion and hromada systems. I assume each settlement represents the main article title for any of its eponymous administrative territories, but it would be good to note them here if possible. —Michael Z. 22:54, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support - the inconsistency is probably the result of unfamiliarity with WP:UKR rather than actual strong beliefs/opinions about the correct romanization of Ukrainian place names. Cran32 (talk | contributions) 21:36, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- No analysis or judgment of the original intent was implied. —Michael Z. 22:54, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry for the phrasing - I just mean that this is unlikely to face opposition :) Cran32 (talk | contributions) 23:18, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- No analysis or judgment of the original intent was implied. —Michael Z. 22:54, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support per nomination, Ymblanter and Cran32. The proposed forms represent consistent Ukrainian transliteration of English Wikipedia main title headers delineating Ukrainian topics. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 23:36, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support per nom--RicardoNixon97 (talk) 13:25, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support per nom, is there some way to get consensus that moving small towns to stanzerdized transliteration can be uncontested?—blindlynx (talk) 13:47, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- This represents about half of Ukraine’s oblasts. I will do another round after this is cleared up, and then the question should be largely moot, apart from individual articles and new articles. The format is not ideal, but I do like putting it in front of more eyes to check for mistakes or exceptions that I’ve missed. —Michael Z. 14:34, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Fair enough—blindlynx (talk) 17:51, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support – per nom and WP:UAPLACE. RGloucester — ☎ 16:36, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Requested move 13 June 2021
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Lennart97 (talk) 10:51, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Pervomayske, Rozdilna Raion → Pervomaiske, Odessa Oblast
- Mikhaylivka, Vinnytsia Oblast → Mykhailivka, Vinnytsia Oblast
- Mizhrichia, Crimea → Mizhrichchia
- Velykyi Buyalyk → Velykyi Buialyk
- Velyka Bihan → Velyka Byihan
- Chynadiyovo → Chynadiieve
- Budyatychi → Budiatychi
- Suharivka → Sukharivka
- Adamyvka → Adamivka
- Liublinets → Liublynets
- Mizhhirya → Mizhhiria
- Bilyayivka → Biliaivka
- Tavriyske → Tavriiske
- Grozyne → Hrozyne
– Correct romanization per WP:UKR. These changes serve the article naming WP:CRITERIA of recognizability, naturalness, precision, conciseness, and consistency.
These are all small settlements in Ukraine. The current article names have spellings according to a less-appropriate standard, have non-Ukrainian spelling, or are just quirky or misspelled. I have not tested to see if any of the subjects have only a single most WP:COMMONNAME, but if they do then it is most likely to correspond to our standard romanization. Each proposed spelling is romanized according to the Ukrainian National system, which derives the official Latin-alphabet spelling, has been adopted by the UNGEGN and BGN/PCGN (source of Ukrainian place-name spellings on the authoritative GeoNames database), and in each of these cases also corresponds to a variant of the widely used modified Library of Congress romanization.
I confirmed Ukrainian names by looking at the corresponding article on Ukrainian Wikipedia. Checked each new title for conflicts and adjusted the title disambiguation. Some of these have been renamed previously, but without any discussion.
(This is mass move request 2 of 2; see #Requested move 8 June 2021.) —Michael Z. 21:40, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- The first one must be Pervomaiske, Odessa Oblast--Ymblanter (talk) 10:32, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Updated. —Michael Z. 11:46, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support, per nom. Cran32 (talk | contributions) 15:59, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support per nom--RicardoNixon97 (talk) 12:39, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Is Julian Bilecki Polish, Ukraianian or both?
See talk. Maybe there are some sources in Ukrainian? The most reliable English source we have, NYT, calls him a Pole, and it and CNN spell his name in Polish. YV spells his name as "Biletskiy, Yulian". Some unreliable websites, still spelling his name in Polish, mention he and some of his family remained in Ukraine after the war. There are mentions of a Ukrainian state ceremony involving them in 1990. This may be based on some Ukrainian news media? I didn't find any Polish-language sources discussing his story. My guess he is a member of the Polish minority in Ukraine, which may require changing the article a bit (he is described/categorized as a Pole). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:19, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Know many Poles who use Ukrainian bibles? Or who are Sabbatarians, Subbotniks? You can hear him speak in this video at 2:15, sound like Polish to you?JoeZ451 (talk) 18:41, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
Russian last name = "of Russian origin"?
Could anyone more knowledgeable than I about Ukrainian/Russian surnames look over the last few edits on S1mple and tell me if the IP's edits are sufficiently obvious as to be true for anyone with a specific last name, or if that's original synthesis? Any help appreciated! Alyo (chat·edits) 14:15, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- Original synthesis--Ymblanter (talk) 21:11, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
Popular pages
I requested this wikiproject get a bot-generated table of popular pages. It should now be updated monthly:
This may be helpful in setting priorities for article improvements. —Michael Z. 18:57, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Language help
Can anyone with native Ukrainian proficiency help at this AfD? The subject seems to be marginally notable and there is some coverage, but without a good grasp of Ukrainian (or Russian) judging whether or not they constitute "coverage" is a little challenging. Thanks, St★lwart111 03:14, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
Please join the discussion of this case. The initiator carries pro-Russian messages.. Jafaz (talk) 09:33, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
Improvements for the article https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Constitution_Day_(Ukraine)
Good morning! I found the mentioned article about Ukrainian Constitution Day is quite poorly written and think it still could be improved.
- There are only a few paragraphs, it could be more extensive
- The last paragraph:
"In the 2000s most Ukrainians did not see Constitution Day as a holiday, but as an ordinary day off; about 10% believed it should be a working day (12% in 2008; this number had shrunk from 14% in 2003).[11] Only in Western Ukraine was the holiday among the list of most respected holidays in Ukraine.[12]"
is deprecated and not relevant at all. Even if there should be some polls results, I guess would be better to update them with more recent years and avoid claiming that only ppl in western Ukraine respect this, cause this statement already brings some political tone (imho).
I'd like to request some help for improving this article from this community. I tried to do that myself a year ago, but have been unreasonably accused recently in that offensive comment: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Constitution_Day_(Ukraine)&oldid=prev&diff=1034040009 from the user https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:Yulia_Romero. Would really appreciate your help.
Hope for some common sense.
Best regards, Daria
Requested move at Talk:Mirax-Plaza Ukraine#Requested move 12 July 2021
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