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02:17, 6 September 2024 review of submission by Limmidy

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To be clear, this is not my article. I recently saw this get moved back into the draft space, resubmitted with no changes, then someone with 10 edits forced it back into the mainspace. This doesn't seem appropriate. Any ideas? Limmidy (talk) 02:17, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Limmidy: I agree, that move wasn't appropriate, the article looks a bit dodgy, and I reckon something's off with the account who moved it, too. But it's technically NPP's problem now. <switches hats> And with my NPP hat on, let me go deal with... DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:24, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Limmidy Thank you for spotting this. The community will now decide its fate at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pini Althaus. It would not have been an acceptable draft in the state it was in. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 11:54, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

02:26, 6 September 2024 review of submission by 178.141.180.87

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Please, help me make my draft approved.

I am writing about a person that lives in Russia and whose scientific career was mostly in russia, so all of my sources are un Russian. Is that okay? What else should I reference to get an approval? Should I add links on the words in the text itself (as a citation) or just put everything in the reference list/ 178.141.180.87 (talk) 02:26, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources don't have to be in English; Russian sources are fine, as long as they're otherwise of sufficient standards in terms of reliability etc. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:19, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

03:38, 6 September 2024 review of submission by 202.166.196.35

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I am new to wikipedia and i want to make a new page for Gamvir Bista , who works from 2006 and active till date and very popular in NEPAL for his conceptual music video. So can you please help me to make new page 

202.166.196.35 (talk) 03:38, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We don't get involved in co-editing, if that's what you mean by "helping". We're happy to answer questions about the draft or the review process, if you have any? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:16, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

06:15, 6 September 2024 review of submission by Arpitam03

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Hello, this is regarding references. Would IMDB links constitute as good references? 

Arpitam03 (talk) 06:15, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Arpitam03: no, IMDb is user-generated, and therefore not considered reliable. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:22, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

08:14, 6 September 2024 review of submission by Tendythexangsw

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Help me Tendythexangsw (talk) 08:14, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You don't say what help it is that you are seeking, but your draft was deleted as unambiguous promotion. In looking at it, I agree.
If you work for this college, the Terms of Use require that to be disclosed, see WP:PAID. You should also read conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 08:25, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

09:02, 6 September 2024 review of submission by Tromaggot

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For this Tromanale Event there are three independent reports by different authors in the citation. I do not exactly know which references is not ok. Tromaggot (talk) 09:02, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You have submitted the draft for review, so eventually, you will get feedback from a reviewer.
In the meantime, I suggest you carefully review each of your sources against the criteria in 42.
If a source does not contain significant coverage of Tromanale, probably remove it (it is just possible that the source will contribute a significant piece of information for the article, but if the only source of that information is a passing reference, ask yourself whether that information belongs in the article at all).
If a source is not independent of Tromanale, then only uncontroversial factual information may be cited from it - and again, consider whether the information in question is encyclopaedic.
If a source is not reliable, remove it.
Only if a source meets all three criteria will it contribute to establishing notability. The majority of sources you cite should meet these criteria. ColinFine (talk) 10:00, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

11:15, 6 September 2024 review of submission by Anujch 2011

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why my article rejected Anujch 2011 (talk) 11:15, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The reason was clearly stated by the reviewer at the top of the draft. To expand on that, you wrote an essay, not an encyclopedia article. 331dot (talk) 11:17, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Anujch 2011 Please read HELP:YFA which will guide your future contributions, 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 11:20, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12:34, 6 September 2024 review of submission by Moner28

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Hello, I recently wrote an article on a channel on the YouTube platform that has been providing content for free since 2018. This channel is famous in the Middle East and has multiple sources. Please help in accepting this article. Thank you. Moner28 (talk) 12:34, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Moner28 no Declined because you have not demonstrated notability. The references all fail to verify anything other than its existence. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 12:36, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:35, 6 September 2024 review of submission by Way245

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Draft:Patti Callahan Henry Hi guys! I'm new to reviewing and have studied up on Wikipedia's rules and took a shot at it but got denied. She is a well-known author who I think deserves a page without question! Any suggestions on helping me get published? Way245 (talk) 13:35, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you have a connection to this person, that needs to be disclosed, see WP:COI and WP:PAID.
You need to establish that she meet the definition of a notable author. The awards do not contribute to notability as they lack articles themselves (like Nobel Peace Prize or Academy Award). The rest of the content just documents her work and does not say what makes her notable. You wrote "She is known for her works in both contemporary Southern fiction...." but don't say who claims that or why. 331dot (talk) 14:37, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@331dot So I was actually able to find articles for the awards, and actually her name shows up in that articles award page.
As for history of where she grew up and such, is her website not a credible source? Way245 (talk) 16:16, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So there is a good chance that she is notable, but you still need to summarize significant coverage of her, not just document her work. Unless there are sources that go into extensive detail about her podcast and public speaking work, and what makes it particularly important/influential, that section should probably just be removed.
Her website would be a primary source, useful for basic facts about her(her birthdate, place of residence, etc.) but does not contribute to notability. 331dot (talk) 16:21, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Way245: I would also add that this needs to be much better referenced. There is some unreferenced information, and quite a lot of this is referenced using her own website and other non-independent sources. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:43, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you and @331dot ! I will work on this. Way245 (talk) 15:03, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

18:02, 6 September 2024 review of submission by Wikeditz

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Hello, The comment on the submitted article states "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people)." However, there are two chapters devoted to the subject and her work in the Handbook of Research on the Global Impacts and Roles of Immersive Media, which is a double-blind peer reviewed publication by a reputable academic publisher. A double-blind, peer-reviewed source would seem to be the definition of published, reliable, secondary sources independent of the subject. The whole purpose of the double-blind peer-review process is to make sure that experts in the field agree that the content is worthy of publication and inclusion in the academic cannon. It's unclear why that level of vetting and endorsement is not enough for publication on Wikipedia. Wikeditz (talk) 18:02, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikeditz Forgive me, but that is, surely, but one reference? 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 18:05, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for responding, @Fiddle Faddle. The subject of the article in question is the only author in that book who has two chapters published in the single volume. One of those chapters was recently re-published by the publisher in a new volume. There is also a third double-blind peer-reviewed article published by Harvard. (So, that's 4 double-blind peer-reviewed publications of her work...) And many invite-only talks given at reputable industry conferences, like SIGGRAPH, the prestigious computer graphics conference. Her pioneering VR work has also been awarded at CES, the largest consumer electronics show in the world, among others; there it beat out competitors like ABC, CBS, Viacom, etc. Can you help me to understand either why these are not enough or how I could better mention them in the piece? I am relatively new to Wikipedia authorship and would appreciate the opportunity to learn from you and your peers. Thank you. Wikeditz (talk) 18:21, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Wikeditz: The source could be utterly unimpeachable and it still would not be enough, on its own, to support an article. Your main issue is you're citing things she has written, which cannot help for notability a whit. We're looking for and at what others have written about her, not what she has written about any topic. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 18:18, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, @Jéské Couriano.
Would something like this from the San Diego Union Tribune help?
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2020/01/22/la-jolla-news-nuggets-34/
And/or these:
https://arinsider.co/2024/03/12/spawning-into-the-irl-metaverse-at-europaparks-aurea-award/
https://paw.princeton.edu/article/virtual-reality-eve-weston-01-creates-interactive-art Wikeditz (talk) 18:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, and @Jéské Couriano & @Fiddle Faddle I forgot to include this one:
https://yle.fi/a/74-20093885
and these that cite her as an expert:
https://digitalfrontier.com/articles/metaverse-real-estate-album-digs
https://www.techmonitor.ai/focus/working-in-the-metaverse-why-3d-virtual-collaboration-is-still-ten-years-away
https://onezero.medium.com/virtual-reality-is-still-failing-half-of-the-worlds-population-b91df3a03262
https://brown.columbia.edu/a-taxonomy-for-vr/
and this one speaks of her TV writing:
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/16/fashion/weddings/eve-weston-zachary-pincus-roth.html Wikeditz (talk) 18:36, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The first one has only a couple of lines on her, and so is not significant coverage, while the next two are mostly her words, so are not independent. I didn't go any further. You need to evaluate every source against the triple criteria in WP:42. ColinFine (talk) 20:07, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

21:12, 6 September 2024 review of submission by 189.106.129.100

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I'm trying to create a page for a Brazilian artist and actor called Metturo, but this is what they say: This topic is not notable enough for inclusion on Wikipedia. and every time it is someone with the user name SafariScribe who refuses to create the page. I have already proven in every way that the person is public and famous, all the sources and references I used are notorious and so is the artist. What should I do? 189.106.129.100 (talk) 21:12, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You should move on from this topic. Being public and famous is not the same thing as being notable. You have not shown he is a notable actor as Wikipedia defines it. 331dot (talk) 21:24, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why is my page being rejected? I've already tried it in every way with all the true sources and references about the actor and it's not being accepted. Why are they doing this? 189.106.129.100 (talk) 21:35, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not create additional threads for every post, just edit this existing section. No one says the sources are not true, that is not the issue. You need to move on from this. 331dot (talk) 21:40, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rejected means it is the end of the line for this topic. You cannot reverse it and resubmit. 331dot (talk) 21:47, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

22:17, 6 September 2024 review of submission by JanaFerrume

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Hi , I created multiple edits I still believe this topic/person is and has notable credits JanaFerrume (talk) 22:17, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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