Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2023 February 18

February 18

Template:BC Highway Shield

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. CSD G7 Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:39, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

• Template:BC Highway Shield (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused in mainspace and superseded by SVGs in c:Category:British Columbia Highway shields. Rschen7754 23:52, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:28, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
• Consenting to speedy deletion as creator. --  Denelson83  00:48, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
• Delete—as superseded and unneeded. Imzadi 1979 → 10:00, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

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Template:Copyright notes Iraq

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The result of the discussion was no consensus to delete, but there is consensus to make it clear this is not a valid stand-alone license template Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 16:01, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

• Template:Copyright notes Iraq (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template misrepresents policy. Wikipedia honors the copyrights of non-Berne signatories per Wikipedia:Copyrights#Governing copyright law. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 14:26, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

• Keep as page creator.

1. This template does not misrepresent policy. At the bottom of the box: "This is not a valid license; a valid license template must accompany this tag or this file will be deleted. Files from Iraq that are copyrighted in Iraq and that have not been released under a free license may be deleted, unless an appropriate non-free license and a Non-free use rationale is provided." We can always make that message larger if that would help.
2. As that message notes, this is not a license template. It is an informational notice copied from c:Template:Copyright notes that some reusers may find helpful. We can have a discussion about whether it's actually helpful -- if not, let's delete -- but there is no contradiction between the language here and Wikipedia policy.
3. @Magog the Ogre: please add {{Copyright notes Iran}} to this listing, as doesn't make sense to keep one and delete the other. Wikiacc (¶) 20:24, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

• Well it needs to be much clearer. The large majority of pages linking to this template have a public domain license attached (I've nominated them for deletion if you don't see them). Magog the Ogre (t • c) 17:05, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Agreed that it should be clearer, but we should keep it in some shape or form since it is otherwise not clear why a PD US notice is not required.

Ideally this would be written as a PD-US notice, with the advice that due to Wikipedia's ruling on non-Berne convention states, a PD-Iraq notice is necessary in addition. Alternatively, we could add text to this effect to the PD-Iraq template itself? Felix QW (talk) 21:18, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Adding text to PD-Iraq is a very good idea. The other use case for this template, though, is when the image is copyrighted in Iraq but meets WP:NFCC. (Perhaps we could do as you suggest for PD, and then rework this template just to handle the NFCC case?) Wikiacc (¶) 01:53, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

That seems like an excellent idea. I've just seen that commons:template:PD-Iraq is doing that already, so maybe one can orient oneself on their layout. Felix QW (talk) 09:02, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

• Comment We need an Iraqi copyright tag and a US copyright tag. This acts as the US one. --Stefan2 (talk) 18:27, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 16:06, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

• Delete as unnecessarily confusing. This looks and feels like a copyright tag, but isn't (even confused me until I read the text), and will probably result (or has already?) in editors using it as a copyright tag and then getting burned by it. The info contained in the tag belongs on its own Wikipedia namespace page, with maybe a link to that page from the {{PD-Iraq}} tag -FASTILY 20:38, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

• Keep in some form. As currently constructed, the template looks like a license template, and unless one reads the small print, one would not realize that it advisory in nature and not a license template. However, the information and advice is useful even if it may need some rewording. Perhaps it shouldn't be in a template and should be an informational page. Or perhaps refactored to make it very clear this is not a licensing template and informational only. -- Whpq (talk) 20:09, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
  • The problem with moving the information to an informational page is that people who look at a file which satisfies the tag's requirements won't find the informational page. Some information needs to be presented on each file information page. I agree that the template needs to be improved, although I'm not sure how to best do this. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:54, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

    That's a good point. Some form of improvement to the template would make it more obvious that it is not a copyright license tag and make it easier to understand. -- Whpq (talk) 13:04, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

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Template:Fb cs ex header

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 13:59, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

• Template:Fb cs ex header (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Fb cs ex footer (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Fb cs ex staff (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused football templates. Gonnym (talk) 08:57, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:28, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

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Template:AC with n elements

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 13:59, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

• Template:AC with n elements (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused category template. Gonnym (talk) 08:55, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:28, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

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