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How do I access Gale/Wikipedia Library Card Platform?
A while ago, I applied for Gale, a platform that hosts academic articles. Wikipedia users can get free access if they use it for their contributions.
I applied for access to several journals and I was granted access :). I was emailed this link with a generic password that seemingly anyone could use. I still don't understand how I can find the peer reviewed articles in the publishers/journals that have been approved for me?
It feels like some instructions have never been sent to me. Could anyone point me in the right direction?
Thank you.
Amin (Talk) 03:10, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Amin:Are you looking for some journals in particular?--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 03:33, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Esprit15d: I'd like to find articles from every journal I have access to. If I understand correctly, Gale has a useraccount for me, and knows which ones I can and cannot access, right? If that's not possible, looking through individual publishers/journals I have access to would work as well. Amin (Talk) 03:35, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- @AMin: You have two options: (1) You can just enter the topic you want to investigate in the search box on that page and then any articles that contain that search string will appear, or (2) This is the link to all the journals. Does that answer your question?--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 03:42, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Esprit15d: I appreciate you taking the time to reply. I still feel confused. For example: Upon logging in to Gale, it only asked the password, never a username. This indicates that every user has access to the exact same catalogue, and that there are no individual member profiles. I should have access to some journals that someone else doesn't, and vice versa, right? How do you explain that? Amin (Talk) 04:02, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Amin:I believe you are just accessing the database with Wikipedia access. It's not a personal account.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 12:08, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Esprit15d: Is there even a personalized section? If not, what was the point of me applying for the different publishers to get access? If the environment is seems the same for every user? Thanks again for your time. Amin (Talk) 12:09, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Amin: It's different for different databases. Some give you a personal username, some don't. This is usually a paid service, so if we're getting it for free, we have to take what we can get.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 13:33, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Esprit15d: Is there even a personalized section? If not, what was the point of me applying for the different publishers to get access? If the environment is seems the same for every user? Thanks again for your time. Amin (Talk) 12:09, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Amin:I believe you are just accessing the database with Wikipedia access. It's not a personal account.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 12:08, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Esprit15d: I appreciate you taking the time to reply. I still feel confused. For example: Upon logging in to Gale, it only asked the password, never a username. This indicates that every user has access to the exact same catalogue, and that there are no individual member profiles. I should have access to some journals that someone else doesn't, and vice versa, right? How do you explain that? Amin (Talk) 04:02, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- @AMin: You have two options: (1) You can just enter the topic you want to investigate in the search box on that page and then any articles that contain that search string will appear, or (2) This is the link to all the journals. Does that answer your question?--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 03:42, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Esprit15d: I'd like to find articles from every journal I have access to. If I understand correctly, Gale has a useraccount for me, and knows which ones I can and cannot access, right? If that's not possible, looking through individual publishers/journals I have access to would work as well. Amin (Talk) 03:35, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
Clarification on editting Mikolas Josef article
Hi everyone, I've recently made my first edit of Mikolas Josef's article (specifically putting in the correct family name). I have found this information upon some trademark websites (especially this one) concerning projects the subject applied for himself. However, I was wondering whether or not this is an appropriate reliable source. Additionally, I had not put in a citation, so it was later removed. So basically I want to understand how to format a citing please
AprilSponge (talk) 11:44, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- @AprilSponge: Watch the video on the right-hand side of this page.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 13:48, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
Pregunta
Hola amigos, mi pregunta es: una vez realizado mi borrador de articulo cual es el siguiente paso para su publicacion y q aprarezca en los motores de busqueda? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NaiguelBaspe (talk • contribs) 15:04, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi NaiguelBaspe your question and article Draft:MODELO VENEZOLANO DE NACIONES UNIDAS are in Spanish, to submit here on English Wikipedia it must be in English, to add Spanish content go to the Spanish Language Wikipedia https://es.wikipedia.org/ (Sorry my Spanish is not good enough to reply in Spanish). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:13, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- google translation: Su pregunta y artículo Draft:MODELO VENEZOLANO DE NACIONES UNIDAS están en español, para enviarlos aquí en inglés. Wikipedia https://es.wikipedia.org/ KylieTastic (talk) 15:16, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
How to Make a Wikipedia Article a Stub
I was making a Wikipedia Article and I've ran out of info to put, and I recently just heard that you can make a Article a Stub article and I believe it would be the best for that article, how would I do this or ask for it to become that, Thanks! Zebrazach20062 (talk) 16:53, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Making your draft a stub will not help it get accepted, it has virtually no reliable sources, their own website and forums do not help with establishing notability, we need independent reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 18:21, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
Infobox issue
MarkBarnettart0 (talk) 19:46, 14 April 2019 (UTC)Hi
I am a new user could someone help me fix an issue in the infobox?
regards, MarkMarkBarnettart0 (talk) 19:46, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi MarkBarnettart0. Please provide a link to the relevant Wikipedia article so that someone can check its infobox. If you're not sure how to post a link to an article, then at least provide its name. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:34, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- OK, it appears you're referring to D. T. Suzuki, and that the "issue" is more of your desire to expand the infobox to include more information. An infobox (as explained in MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE) is really only intended to summarize some (not all) of the main points of an article; it's not really intended to be a place for introducing new information or including lots of extraneous information. You've only just started a discussion about the changes you want to make at Talk:D. T. Suzuki#Can we please add more to the Information box. (Notable works, School Tradition, Main interests, influenced and influences), so you need to be a little patient and give others who are interested the article a chance to respond. There are really no deadlines when it comes to stuff like this and sometimes it can take a bit of time for a consensus to be established. You were already WP:BOLD once and reverted, now you should follow Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle and just wait to see what others have to say about your proposed changes. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:55, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Hello, MarkBarnettart0. I see you have been trying to add material to D. T. Suzuki. There are two kinds of problem in what you have done. First, you have tried to use fields that don't exist in the infobox. See Template:infobox writer for what fields are defined. Secondly, you have been adding a lot of unreferenced information. He may well have influenced and been influenced by the people you have named, but we need citations to sources that specifically say that there are those influences, otherwise it will be original research, which is not allowed in Wikipedia. Influences is one case where primary sources would be acceptable - while it would always be preferable to find a reliable secondary source if there is one, an explicit statement in X's works that they were influenced by Y would be acceptable. But for less clearcut claims, an independent secondary source would be required. --ColinFine (talk) 22:06, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
Picture
How do I add a photo to the page I'm editing, Gender Archaeology, and if I do add a photo how do I figure out if it would be plagiarism?Dallas Rose (talk) 22:45, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Dallas Rose. Which page nd which image are you're referring to? There's some general information on image use in Wikipedia:Image use policy, but how an image can be used depends upon (1) it's copyright status or lack thereof, and (2) the type of page where you want to use it. If you can clarify these two things, then it will be much easier to help you. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:34, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Ball Road Anaheim, California
I was wanting to know how I can get Ball Road in Anaheim, California published on Wikipedia the road was named after Hezekiah Wright Ball my great, great grandfather. He was a farmer in Anaheim and owned 200 racers of oranges on Brookurst St. He was in the Civil War CSA as a teamster, went on to be a merchandiser with sever wagons pulled by mules. He traveled from Wilmington, California to as far as Santa Fe, New Mexico. They traveled through Indian territory and mad peace with them. He bolt them a well for their drinking and cooking needs. He was also a big game hunter, even hunting with his hounds in the snow. Mostly at Wickenburg, Arizona in the late 1800's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ballroad (talk • contribs) 00:07, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Ballroad. Your question seems familiar and you appear to have asked it before at Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 282#Ball Road Anaheim, Ca and Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 874#Ball Road Anaheim, California so please refer to those answers. You might also try asking for help at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Streets since the members of those two WikiProjects might be able to help you out, particularly with respect to WP:ROADOUTCOMES.Generally, Wikipedia articles only are supposed to be written about subjects considered to be Wikipedia:Notable; so, if you're grandfather meets Wikipedia:Notability (people) then it might be possible for an article to be written about him, and then information about the road might be able to be added to that article. Wikipedia does, however, define notability is a certain way. Although your gradfather seems to have led an interesting life, just being interesting and having done lots of cool things isn't unfortunately always enough per Wikipedia:Existence ≠ Notability and WP:INTERESTING. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:52, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
How do I get rid of a red “warning” on an article?
Three warnings popped up on a page I have been working on for years. It reads:
- Warning: Page using Template:Infobox settlement with unknown parameter "mapsize2" (this message is shown only in preview).
- Warning: Page using Template:Infobox settlement with unknown parameter "image_map2" (this message is shown only in preview).
- Warning: Page using Template:Infobox settlement with unknown parameter "map_caption2" (this message is shown only in preview).
How do I get rid of these warnings to make the page look neater? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:98A:280:32ED:B575:B69B:7DCA:C05D (talk) 23:10, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- Just remove the three unknown parameters from
{{infobox settlement}}
near the top of the page. There's no section edit link for it, use the edit button on the top of the page and pick source mode, or similar. When I want to edit stuff before the 1st section I click on its section edit link, and replace section=1 by section=0 to get at what I really wanted. –84.46.52.142 (talk) 23:28, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
I don't want to remove the three unknown parameters from {{infobox settlement}}
near the top of the page, because it might alter the infobox. For years, the infobox remained the same and now all of a sudden these warnings are popping up. Is there a way for me to get rid of the warnings without altering the look of the infobox? What can I write in place of
"image_map2; mapsize2; and map_caption2"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:98A:280:32ED:B575:B69B:7DCA:C05D (talk) 23:42, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- @2601:98A:280:32ED:B575:B69B:7DCA:C05D: The Template:Infobox settlement template doesn't support more than two map images. However, it appears to be malfunctioning, because the errors shouldn't be showing. I posted a note on the infobox settlement template talk page. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 00:02, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- And I already got a response pointing me to Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Template_errors_being_shown_on_page_when_they_should_be_"shown_only_in_preview". Apparently this is not the only template that has this problem. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 00:04, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- "Unknown parameter" means what it says, whatever you have there has no effect at the moment. If you want more maps than the infobox supports you could add them in a section…
==Gallery== <gallery mode="packed"> File:3rdmap.svg File:4thmap.png … </gallery>
- …or whatever looks nice, I didn't try to figure out which settlement you're talking about. –84.46.52.142 (talk) 00:29, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- Please note the problem is not restricted to just this template. See the posts here Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Template errors being shown on page when they should be "shown only in preview" for further info. MarnetteD|Talk 00:58, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
My first article Submission declined
Hello everybody.
A few days ago I tried to post my first article here on Wikipedia but submission was declined. Please see it here https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Draft:BelcaSoft
The reason as far as I understand is that references are not good enough. Yes, I agree that some of them do not have a full coverage of the company and product but a few a quite good. For example this one https://calgaryherald.com/business/startup-of-the-week-riger names the product start up of the week and has a full article dedicated to it. They talk with company's CEO.
This one here https://crozdesk.com/industry-specific/oil-gas-software/riger has almost 2K words about the product with detailed description of it.
This one from the show also have some good information, not just mention https://www.oaoa.com/inthepipeline/oil_news/article_c80ab04a-d252-11e8-8ebe-7b89689d9050.html
This is on company's site, that os true, but it shows the article which was published by external resource Oilfield PULSE in October 2015 https://riger.ca/riger-at-oilfield-pulse-7-ways-to-boost-oilfield-rentals/
I will keep looking and adding information and resources as they appear on Internet. Meanwhile is there any possibility to reconsider submission decline?
Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by DashaDG (talk • contribs) 19:35, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- I've glanced briefly at the first two references which you linked in your question. Neither of them mentioned BelcaSoft at all so I didn't look any further. If your references don't mention the subject of your article a reconsideration of your submission would come very rapidly to the same conclusion. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:44, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply. But they mention the product - RigER. My article is mostly about the product. Perhaps I should rename it and make about the product, nit the company? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DashaDG (talk • contribs) 2019-04-12 (UTC)
- Please check WP:SPA, WP:COI, and Draft:RigER. –84.46.52.142 (talk) 23:52, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
What to do after deletion of the article
Hello! I suppose I should have come to the Teahouse before submitting my first article.
My submission at Articles for creation: Concord Orchestra has been accepted but later deleted. I have asked to restore the page as a draft so that I could continue to work on my article. However, the administrators refused it.
Another issue that confuses me is that some administrators who voted to delete my article have created articles with few or non-working links as the references. Apparently they are less strict to themselves than to the newcomers.
I don't know what to do now and would appreciate your comment.
Best regards Dariakupila (talk) 10:45, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hello, Dariapulia. I'm afraid that you have been discovering why it is a very bad idea for new editors to attempt the difficult task of creating a new article before they have acquired an understanding of how Wikipedia works. The participants in WP:Articles for deletion/Concord Orchestra and WP:Deletion review/Log/2019 April 10 were not administrators - or, rather, they didn't have to be administrators, though some of them might be. Any editors may contribute to a deletion discussion just as you did. However, Your contributions show that you do not understand what Wikipedia is. Nobody disputes that the Concord Orchestra exists: that is not enough to justify a Wikipedia article. I exist, and so does my sofa, but neither of us has enough information published about us to be the basis of a Wikipedia article. The question is have several people, wholly unconnected with the orchestra, chosen to write about it at length, and been published in reliable places? If the answer is no (and some of the people who joined in the discussion have looked, and found the answer to be no), then the Orchestra is not, at present notable in Wikipedia's sense. Please see the essay No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. If you can find sources wholly unconnected with the orchestra - not published by it or any venues that booked it, not based on press releases or interviews, and with no commercial connection with the orchestra - then it is possible an article could be written, almost entirely based on what those independent sources say. Until you can, I suggest you give up, and find some existing articles that you can improve. --ColinFine (talk) 13:05, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- I mistyped your user name in the ping, Dariakupila. My apologies. --ColinFine (talk) 13:06, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- User:Dariakupila - It isn't useful to insult the participants in a Deletion Review simply because they have expressed support for the closure. It also isn't a good idea to use the guideline against biting the newcomers as a club to beat up editors who disagree with you. Your familiarity with this guideline when you have very little logged experience makes experienced editors wonder whether you are a sockpuppet of a blocked user. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:39, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- I mistyped your user name in the ping, Dariakupila. My apologies. --ColinFine (talk) 13:06, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
Robert McClenon I am just looking for justice. I don't intend to insult anyone - I didn't insult you, I have asked you the questions, the same questions you asked me. And you replied to me that you would look up the references for your articles. I apologise if I sound rude. Dariakupila (talk) 05:11, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
ColinFine I do not doubt that there are more experienced people than me and I respect this but it is also not nice when being new seems to be a problem. I need time and advice to figure out how everything should be. I think people often write about what they are interested in. I have not used sponsored/connected sources. There are sources where it says on top "sponsored" but I did not use them. Interviews are not forbidden to use with caution. Every single link is working. Dariakupila (talk) 05:11, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Is there a difference between citing an eBook and citing a print edition?
Is there a difference between citing an eBook and citing a print edition? I'm reffering to books that have a print edition and are not self-published sources, but are more accessible in eBook form through my local library. The eBooks usually contain what the corresponding page in print form would be on the page (so I might have two or three electronic pages that say "324" because it was all on page 324 in the print version). Clovermoss (talk) 17:23, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, Clovermoss. If the content of the eBook is functionally identical to the paper version, then you just cite it as a book. No difference. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:17, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Features of RTV Required
Can I use RTV on oxygen operated equipment? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KAUSAR RAZA (talk • contribs) 07:55, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi KAUSAR RAZA. The Teahouse is really a place for asking questions about how to edit Wikipedia. It's not really a place to ask questions about matters not related to Wikipedia. You can try asking at Wikipedia:Reference desk and perhaps someone there might be able to help, but your best bet might simply to be to contact the relevant equipment manufacturer and ask whether RTV can be used on it. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:02, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Please help
'Awards and recognition of Chandigarh
- In 2019, IXC has won the Airport Service Quality Awards under the category of ‘Best Environment and Ambience by size’ (2-5 million passengers) and region in Asia Pacific. [1]
(Please give your views about this content . One IP user tagged it as advertisement n I saw Awards content on every Airport page. I believe this isn't a advertisement content.) 649pardeep (talk) 08:07, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
References
- ^ "IXC won award". TOI.
general question
how i can know which website is considered as reliable source for wikipedia article and is there any fixed number of ref? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahulsingh33 (talk • contribs) 10:18, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi @Rahulsingh33: There's no maximum number of references that you can use. Also there's no curated list of reliable sources, but there's a help page that gives detailed guide on that: Wikipedia:Identifying and using independent sources. – Ammarpad (talk) 10:56, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Separated "Trailer Park Sex" from "Eve of Alana"
Hi there I've separated the bands, Eve of Alana and Trailer Park Sex from one another. These are two different bands that share personnel. The main reason for this separation is that their material and information got badly mixed up when looking up for them.
In this version of wikipedia, both bands were listed under "trailer Park Sex". I've separated them and got the Eve of Alana article running no problem. Then just wanted to paste all the old code from Trailer Park Sex's article. But the submission was denied, although it was an article before. The code meets all standards and more. It's just sitting on my page waiting to be accepted now.
I need some help with this since I wouldnt want the article to go to waste.
Thanks Picturechina (talk) 11:50, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Sandbox
Hi, I am new here. I have created a article for Zee Bollywood, an Indian television channel, which is now on my Sandbox. I don't know, how to make it available on Wikipedia as a general article. I need help.DreamFan789 (talk) 02:31, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- @DreamFan789: Welcome to the Teahouse, and thanks for your efforts in putting this article together. It isn't actually in your sandbox, it is in Draft:Zee Bollywood. I have added the {{Draft article}} template so when it is ready you can submit it for review and promotion to the main space. Before you do that, please note that it has already been tagged to say "This article contains content that is written like an advertisement." That should be fixed before submitting it; otherwise it will just have to go for another round of reviews. I did not put that tag there, but I agree with it: sentences like "While every other movie channel in Hindi space is offering mostly South Indian dubbed movies, apart from that Zee Bollywood has only concentrated on pure Hindi movies with the slogan - 101% Shuddh Bollywood" belong in advertising, not in an encyclopedia article. So please word it in a more neutral way before pushing the blue button to submit it for review. --Gronk Oz (talk) 03:39, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for your suggestion. I have edited the article according to your suggestion. Kindly check now and please edit somewhere if needed. English is not my mother language, so it's quite natural to make fault somewhere. Kindly remove unwanted parts from the article & please make this page as a normal article from draft or if needed please submit it to review. Thank you. DreamFan789 (talk) 04:34, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- I have cleaned up the article a bit, removing the most blatant advertising and a bunch of inappropriate references. Please make sure that you read this information and follow the instructions there. Thank you. --bonadea contributions talk 06:16, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for modification. After that please remove "This article contains content that is written like an advertisement" extra added part on the upper portion of the article. One more thing, till now, article is on draft, not available as a normal article in Wikipedia. How can it would be? As I am new here, don't know the procedure. Please help. DreamFan789 (talk) 07:48, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Note: DreamFan789 has now been blocked as a sockpuppet of a previously blocked user, and their promotional draft has been deleted. --bonadea contributions talk 12:04, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
You were very helpful a couple of months ago and the article is now much improved. I hope sufficiently so for it to be published. It has now been a couple of months since any feedback and I was wondering if any more work on it was required or your advice is to just wait until it is reviewed again. Any pointers would be really appreciated. As this is my first article so far! --WikiGeoffrey (talk) 12:05, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Can someone help me clean up an entry on The Wharf Rat Rally, Digby, Nova Scotia, Canada?
I am pretty new to Wiki and struggle as I have rarely used it! I 'volunteered' to help the Town of Digby put The Wharf Rat Rally, an annual motorcycle event of 15 years, one of the biggest in Canada, into wiki - I am failing!!! I have put in some basic info but drowned trying to add references. I would like someone to assist me in bringing the article up to wiki standards. I am happy to dig out info and articles, I am just not good at getting into the right format and structure for wiki. I would also like to add a photo or two which I have copyright to, to a page on the Rally and to the existing page on Digby. This probably sounds like a trivial thing for a regular editor but it is a task for me! Any help appreciated. Peter James - The Green Festival (talk) 12:54, 15 April 2019 (UTC)Peter
Denis Tuohy
I am Denis Tuohy. The current entry is very brief. Can I send a cv for your editors to look at and select some further information for the entry ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.51.105.230 (talk) 17:02, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- The easiest thing is for you to add details to the talk page. Please be aware that all details about living persons require independent verification. This protects both Wikipedia (it is not for self-promotion) and yourself (are we certain you are who you claim to be?). Regards, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 17:10, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- Denis Tuohy - people are advised not to edit articles that are about themselves, hence Martin's suggestion that you go to the Talk page of the article about you and create a new section there. Add information you think would improve the article - with references. If you can provide references for the information you think should be in the article, the hope is that other editors will review it and incorporate same into the article. There is a way of posting Help me! at Talk. An important point - Wikipedia articles are not CV dumps or profiles. Essential to have independent sources of information about you. David notMD (talk) 18:39, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- An editor has added refs to the article. David notMD (talk) 16:33, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi! Welcome to the Teahouse Denis Tuohy. There is not a way for you to submit your resume and even if you did, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a place to promote yourself. Please consider editing other articles that interest you rather than your own article. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 13:53, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- An editor has added refs to the article. David notMD (talk) 16:33, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- Denis Tuohy - people are advised not to edit articles that are about themselves, hence Martin's suggestion that you go to the Talk page of the article about you and create a new section there. Add information you think would improve the article - with references. If you can provide references for the information you think should be in the article, the hope is that other editors will review it and incorporate same into the article. There is a way of posting Help me! at Talk. An important point - Wikipedia articles are not CV dumps or profiles. Essential to have independent sources of information about you. David notMD (talk) 18:39, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
What are the procedures to undo a redirect of a page?
Just curious as to what the steps are to undo a redirect of a page and bring back the original.
Thank you! Aviartm (talk) 20:57, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Aviartm. It depends why it was redirected and whether the original was deleted or is in a page history. Do you have a specific redirect in mind? PrimeHunter (talk) 21:04, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hello PrimeHunter. This is the redirect in question. I know the reasonings behind it and all. Due to the contents of the redirect and former page, there is a highly probability that it will have to be reinstated in the future and I was curious what the steps were. Aviartm (talk) 21:43, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- In theory you can expand redirects into proper pages, I tested this on Widevine as IP, it worked (more or less, some SPA later spoiled it.) But in your case I doubt that the page should be recreated.
- If your plan is to rescue—or rather, unhide—the substantial edit history, this requires an admin with a clue about "history merge", in essence (1) move reactions page to holding space without leaving a redirect, (2) move old page to the then free reactions space without leaving a redirect, (3) reset it to the last version before it was a redirect, (4) history merge everything from holding space, and finally (5) delete the holding space. –84.46.52.142 (talk) 22:47, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- Not necessary but thank you for telling me the other possibilities.
- @Aviartm: This is the right link to the redirect. Pipes are only used in wikilinks with double brackets. It was redirected at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Special Counsel counter report (2nd nomination). See Wikipedia:Why was the page I created deleted?#What you can do about it. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:43, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- @PrimeHunter: So the best route to undo a redirect in the future is to go to the Help Desk and ask for the page to be reverted back to its original ways. To go off topic a little bit, I think the page shouldn't have been redirected as the information on the page is elaborate and I think it would be excessive to add elsewhere excluding a synopsis and a wikilink to the corresponding page of course. If you check the conversation, they thought the counter report failed WP:BKCRYSTAL. Of course, there are speculation surrounding the report and whether it will become public and all but we will just have to see. They did agree to retain the page's history. And the brings me back that in case the report does become public and whatnot, what are the procedures to undo a redirect and that brings me to Help Desk? Aviartm (talk) 19:04, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Aviartm: Wikipedia:Why was the page I created deleted?#What you can do about it says you can ask for advice at the help desk, not that you can get them to revert the result of a deletion discussion. The listed options for that is to discuss with the closer of the discussion, and then go to deletion review. But it's unlikely to work here because the discussion was clear. If the only user wanting to keep an article is the author then it isn't kept. Wikipedia is a collaborative project and sometimes it just doesn't go as you want. Things may change if the report is actually published or becomes important. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:26, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- I create articles from redirects all the time. For more information, leave me a note on my talk page. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 13:57, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Aviartm: Wikipedia:Why was the page I created deleted?#What you can do about it says you can ask for advice at the help desk, not that you can get them to revert the result of a deletion discussion. The listed options for that is to discuss with the closer of the discussion, and then go to deletion review. But it's unlikely to work here because the discussion was clear. If the only user wanting to keep an article is the author then it isn't kept. Wikipedia is a collaborative project and sometimes it just doesn't go as you want. Things may change if the report is actually published or becomes important. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:26, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- @PrimeHunter: So the best route to undo a redirect in the future is to go to the Help Desk and ask for the page to be reverted back to its original ways. To go off topic a little bit, I think the page shouldn't have been redirected as the information on the page is elaborate and I think it would be excessive to add elsewhere excluding a synopsis and a wikilink to the corresponding page of course. If you check the conversation, they thought the counter report failed WP:BKCRYSTAL. Of course, there are speculation surrounding the report and whether it will become public and all but we will just have to see. They did agree to retain the page's history. And the brings me back that in case the report does become public and whatnot, what are the procedures to undo a redirect and that brings me to Help Desk? Aviartm (talk) 19:04, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hello PrimeHunter. This is the redirect in question. I know the reasonings behind it and all. Due to the contents of the redirect and former page, there is a highly probability that it will have to be reinstated in the future and I was curious what the steps were. Aviartm (talk) 21:43, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
Teach me
can anybody teach me how to make my minecraft articles better and anybody can ask me about minecraft if they don't know about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EnochLi (talk • contribs) 10:26, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- @EnochLi: A great place to start would be WikiProject Video games: a group of people devoted to writing articles about the games.--Gronk Oz (talk) 14:00, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Userboxes
I have lots of userboxes and it is an issue to scroll down to see them . Any idea on how to put them side by side ? Kpgjhpjm 07:16, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- I do not use Userboxtop and Userboxbottom and mine display across the page. On caution here: some UBs are taller than others, which creates unsightly gaps in the display. I worked around this by moving all the tall ones to the bottom of my list. While commenting here, my personal opinion is that you have too much information on your User page. If some of this is so you know where to find editing tools, consider moving to your Sandbox. David notMD (talk) 14:50, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Review an article
How long does it take to review an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ianhay99 (talk • contribs) 14:06, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Ianhay99: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your edit history does not indicate that you have created or submitted any articles for review(though I think you mean draft articles). You have edited your user page- but this is not article space. If you do submit one, there is currently a significant backlog of at least two thousand drafts awaiting review by volunteers; they are not reviewed in any certain order; it could take ten minutes, or take three months. If you want to submit a draft, I would use Articles for Creation and read Your First Article first. Please understand that successfully creating an article is probably the hardest task on Wikipedia, so it's important to not get discouraged. 331dot (talk) 14:12, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Was on userpage, can now be found at Draft:The Blintz Band. Lectonar (talk) 14:45, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- With no references to published reliable sources, the result of the review is in no doubt. While you are waiting for that to happen, please read the advice at WP:Your first article as advised above, and update your draft accordingly. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:53, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Language name misspelled
Hello, on the main Wikipedia page located at https://www.wikipedia.org/, I noticed a language name is misspelled. When scrolling down to the lists of languages that have Wikipedia articles, under the 1000+ Articles section the name of the Pali language is mispelled as पाऴि and it doesn't seem like I can edit on that page to fix the error. Can you or some other administrator fix the spelling to पालि?
Thank you. Foreverknowledge (talk) 00:40, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Foreverknowledge. I've added a comment about this to Talk:Main Page#Native spelling of Pali. Feel free to clarify things there if you like. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:26, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Reported on Phabricator: T220998 rchard2scout (talk) 15:15, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
New article about a Topic. Need an opinion if the topic is notable
The name of the topic is iB Cricket Super Over League. It is the world's first virtual reality cricket league played by 12 international cricket players. I request any experienced editor to confirm if this topic is noteworthy — Preceding unsigned comment added by KrishnaJBL (talk • contribs) 06:15, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hello, KrishnaJBL, and welcome to the Teahouse. Notability is almost entirely a matter of whether suitable sources exist. In asking other users for an opinion on whether the league is notable, you are basically asking other editors to go and look for sources. Can I suggest that you do this yourself: read NSPORT and GNG, and IRS, and look for some sources that you think are suitable, and if you find some, come back and ask if we think they are sufficient to establish the league as notable. --ColinFine (talk) 15:18, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Photo mistake
Hello, By mistake I have uploaded 3 photos in separate pages. Want to delete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mamata Padhi (talk • contribs) 16:01, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Moving a page
I would like to move a page in my own userspace. I already know how to do this, but it creates a redirect to that original page. I would like to move a page without creating a redirect. Is there a way I can do this? Mstrojny (talk) 16:58, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- If you're not an admin you can't avoid creating the redirect from the previous title, but if it's in your own userspace you can then either blank the page, or change the redirect to an ordinary wikilink, or reuse the page for something different, or tag the page for deletion under WP:U1. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:04, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
How do I make a second sandbox?
I have seen users with multiple user sandboxes. How do I make a second user sandbox? ARZ100 (talk) 16:33, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks! ARZ100 (talk) 17:15, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
How do I create a page?
How do i create a page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oyinbo arabmoney (talk • contribs) 19:35, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Oyinbo arabmoney: This should help Wikipedia:Your_first_article. Please sign comments with four tildes ~~~~ so we know who you are. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 19:40, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
guides and other
Hello I want to make a guide on how to play a game the game is called Space Station 13 and there is already a wiki page on it but there is no guide for this version or for any other versions of space station. How ever there is a guide for a different version
why did i ask about this?
I asked about this because I could not find any guides for stuff on Wikipedia
on another note
as my first public post i wish to list a few of my opinions, questions, and statements
- Wikipedia needs a less formal chat, the perfect formation is a little intimidating
- What is the difference between wiki and Wikipedia
- Is it okay to post grammatically incorrect articles
- I noticed many people used there real name. are nicknames okay or should i change my user name — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thegoodgoo (talk • contribs) 18:16, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a guide. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:24, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hello, Thegoodgoo. David Biddulph has answered your main point. I'll have a go at the other ones.
- I don't know about chat, or what you are looking for.. Part of the reason that discussion normally takes place in this way, by editing pages, is to keep it all in public. Do you know that there is an IRC channel for getting help? I've never used it, so I don't know what it's like to use.
- A wiki is a kind of collaborative software system. There are thousands and thousands of them on the web: Wikipedia is very much the best known. Some people do refer to Wikipedia as wiki, but old-time editors tend to wince when they do so.
- It's best to make articles as grammatical as you can, but an article doesn't have to be perfect when it is first published: wikignomes and the Guild of copy editors both make a habit of improving the text of articles. The tone of an article is also important, but occasional lapses are easy to fix.
- No, you are free to use your real name (as I do) or a pseudonym, as long as it meets the requirements in Usernames. These are mostly obvious: don't use something offensive or misleading, or pretend to be a real person; and don't use a name which suggests that you are editing on behalf of an organisation.
- Happy editing. --ColinFine (talk) 19:44, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
putting something on wikipedia
I have devised a method for predicting the performance of quaternary liquid-liquid extractions systems by the use of experimental liquid-liquid equilibrium data and the constraining material balances. Engineers in industrial practice will find this method very useful. How do I put this on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.149.25.124 (talk) 19:52, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The short answer is, you cannot put it on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a place to post new or cutting-edge developments/inventions. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state about subjects that meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability. In order for your method to merit an article here, others who are not associated with you in any way need to take note of it and significantly write about and publish their writings; then independent editors will notice that coverage and write about it here on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is also frankly not interested in what someone associated with a subject wants to say about it; that is a conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 19:58, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Content removal
Hi Teahousers, I am new to wikipedia editing and I recently submitted some context to a subsection on a page. I received a response from someone saying that they didn't feel the content was relevant to this topic, and he removed my content. I however disagree and feel that it does indeed belong. What is the best etiquette here for this type of discrepancy? Lifeisgood20 (talk) 20:29, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Lifeisgood20: Welcome to Wikipedia. The next step is to start a discussion on the article's talk page. See WP:BRD for some guidance. RudolfRed (talk) 20:38, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
How do I delete an image?
I uploaded an image of my friend, and he does not want it on Wikipedia. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tgbatty (talk • contribs) 17:00, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hey Tgbatty. I have nominated the photo for deletion. An administrator should come along shortly and respond to the request. GMGtalk 17:11, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, Tgbatty. Welcome to Wikipedia and to the Teahouse; but I fear you may be misunderstanding what Wikipedia is about. It is an encyclopaedia, where we create articles about notable subjects. I'm sure your cat is of great interest to you and your family, but unless several people who have no connection with you have published articles about her in reliable places, I'm afraid Wikipedia is simply not interested in her. In fact, I recommend you do not try the really quite difficult task of creating a new article for a bit yet: I suggest you have a go at The Wikipedia Adventure. and work on improving some of our six million existing articles. --ColinFine (talk) 18:03, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Thank you, but I do have one question, how do you know which file it is? It is deleted off of Wikimedia Commons, but I am trying to get it removed from Google images. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tgbatty (talk • contribs) 2019-04-12 (UTC)
- Check your c:Special:Log/Tgbatty on Commons, presumably Google will give up to use a deleted image after some time, if they don't after three months tell them. –84.46.52.142 (talk) 23:12, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
How do I tell them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tgbatty (talk • contribs) 20:39, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Need help on formatting my first article correctly
I am creating my first article, a music bio, in the Sandbox. I just finished writing all the content, in a Word document and divided it into subheads. I want to now paste this content into the sandbox content box. I'm overwhelmed as to how to use Wiki code language to start formatting it with a headline, subheads, then a box for discography, another box bibliography, placing images in the article, etc. I would like someone to talk me through each step. I know this is all listed in Wiki manual and style guides, but it would take me eons to decipher all of it.
Can someone walk me through the first steps in getting my article up in the sandbox and then formatting it? Thank you. BahnJour9120 (talk) 21:02, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Here is my sandbox page, which does not yet have all content added:
https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:BahnJour9120/sandbox/Frank_Potenza — Preceding unsigned comment added by BahnJour9120 (talk • contribs) 19:06, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi BahnJour9120. See this, it's a more digestible version of the very long manual and style guides.StaringAtTheStars✉Talk 19:29, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- @BahnJour9120: I started things for you. Please sign comments with four tildes ~~~~ so we know who you are. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 19:40, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Tim and Staring at Stars BahnJour9120 (talk) 21:02, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Introduction
Hello everyone! Thanks for inviting me here HostBot! How do I get a page published?
FlyingG8 — Preceding unsigned comment added by FlyingG8 (talk • contribs) 20:53, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- @FlyingG8: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Please understand that successfully creating a new article is probably the most difficult task on Wikipedia. It takes much time and practice. New users who dive right in to article creation sometimes end up disappointed and with hurt feelings as their work is mercilessly edited and even deleted. I don't want that to happen to you. I would suggest that you first use the new user tutorial to learn more about Wikipedia and how it works, and then spend some time editing existing articles to get a feel for what is being looked for in articles. You can then gradually move into article creation and be a little more confident having some knowledge and experience under your belt. If you proceed that way, it will increase the odds of success.
- However, if you still want to attempt to write an article(not just "page"), I would suggest that you read Your First Article and then use Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft for review and feedback. 331dot (talk) 22:15, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- @331dot: Hello and thank you for the suggestion. FlyingG8
Video Editor?
What topics make allot of use when people are trying to be perfect.
I'm trying to be the honest person on earth but I put myself into death I want to comeback to life with a positive way so I will be able do everything on my own with an A+, I just want to apologize to the viewers who didn't get any chance to like, comment, and subscribe to my youtube channel, I wish I can make a highest budget up to 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999K subscribers throughout the world of the career y'all.
I want everyone to trust me, I just want my friend to unblock me on facebook for all the disturbtion I caused, I have allot to explain in this whole truthful talk, I just don't want people to be negative, I want people to be positive on the internet, people who had trolled, and say shitty stuff could get banned for writting harshed comments; everyone around the world it is not the end I want you to please support my channel I'm begging you with all my heart, please don't ignore me I'm the guy who wants to increase up, measure up, my height, and everything else throughout the world of the career.
In this humble world we are living now we achieve our goals to be honest, never hid anything you say on the comments, always be thankful, having the topic to make sacrifice for everyone so they never stress out in their life at the content of the family, having a achievable heart everyone has they can read allot, hear allot, listen allot, smell allot, tell allot, being honest allot, having their own bank account allot, being the person who has a speech allot, and everything else that has to do in this pacific world; so everyone good luck on a new life with a joyful heart; with good medicine in the era of time we achieve in this content we use now and forever on earth I had it is very lit the number people who is the talk of the topic shows at the area of the city in the area of the country's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AgateString1018 (talk • contribs) 23:30, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hello AgateString1018.
- In the first place, your text above is largely incomprehensible.
- In the second place, this Teahouse is for asking questions about how to edit on Wikipedia – your text appears to have nothing whatever to do with Wikipedia.
- In the third place, your User page is intended for talking about your past, current and intended future activities as a Wikipedia editor. It is permissible to mention Real World skills that might have a bearing on your editing, but it is not permissible to use it to publicize yourself and/or advance your career, any more than to use any other part of Wikipedia thus: See Wikipedia:NOT. The current content is nakedly promotional and nothing else, and I expect it will be deleted very soon. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.2.132 (talk) 00:08, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
Help on my first article
I wrote out a draft for my first article, Draft:Norio_Kaifu, but I am aware that for a biography for a living person, there are higher standards and I am not sure if my citations meet them. I would really appreciate some help. Thanks! NMilstein (talk) 04:49, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- I believe that a person who served as president of the International Astronomical Union has a very strong claim of notability under the notability guideline for academics. I encourage you to keep improving your draft. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:12, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks I will try to. There appear to be many websites that I can use, but they are in Japanese. Should I simply use Google Translate, or should I ask someone to translate it? NMilstein (talk) 22:29, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- @NMilstein: Don't trust Google Translate for this effort. GT is, of course, completely algorithmic, unsupervised by human minds, and is therefore and demonstrably not reliable. I've seen some horrible mistranslations in closely related languages, simply because of the limitations of the database and the lack of human checking. And in general, the more different and the less related the languages involved, the less reliable the translation. Japanese and English are entirely unrelated and extremely different in structure, writing, and vocabulary. So you'd really better find human, or at least human-reviewed, translations to use as references. --Thnidu (Ph.D. Linguistics) (talk) 01:30, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks I will try to. There appear to be many websites that I can use, but they are in Japanese. Should I simply use Google Translate, or should I ask someone to translate it? NMilstein (talk) 22:29, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Publication of Nigerian artist "" JHYBO""
Good day ma/sir,I searched the above artist name on wiki to know more about him,but I noticed his biography isn't here,please I want you to do something on it ASAP,he is one of the best indegenious rap artist in Nigeria. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.203.78.75 (talk) 00:12, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi IP 41.203.78.75. In order for a biography to be written about JHYBO, it's going to have to be established that he meets either Wikipedia:Notability (people) or Wikipedia:Notability (music). If you believe that he does, then you can start to work on a draft about him and then submit it for review to Wikipedia:Articles for creation when you think it's ready. Before you do this, however, you probably should take a look at Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything and Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not for reference. If you're not sure how to write a proper Wikipedia article yourself, take a look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Help:Referencing for beginners. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:44, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
Pictures
Hi! How do we add pictures to our Wiki article?? I am looking to enhance my contributions! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kenz2019 (talk • contribs) 01:17, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Kenz2019. It's not exactly clear what you mean by
our Wiki article
since Wikipedia articles (you probably shouldn't refer to Wikipedia as "Wiki" since that the latter is often used to mean Wiki) aren't owned by anyone in particular, but you can find out more about how to add images to articles/pages at Wikipedia:Image use policy. Bascially, adding an image to an article is just a matter of adding the right syntax to the article, but whether an image should be added to an article depends on a number of things such as the copyright license of the image and the the context in which the image is used. Now, after checking your contributions history, it appears you might be referring to Sex and gender roles in the Catholic Church. You recently made a major expansion to that article which might be OK, but seems to rely too heavily on quotes; so, before worrying about images, it might be better to figure out a way to trim out some of the quotes and better summarize the content in your own words instead. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:53, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
trying to add to notable alumni and not a writer here is what i tried and was unacceptable please help
Chief of Naval Operations Admiral William Francis “Bill” Moran Valley Central Class of 1977 NOTE:https://www.recordonline.com/news/20190415/valley-central-grad-nominated-to-top-navy-post — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gkelly2000 (talk • contribs) 23:58, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Gkelly2000. If you look at William F. Moran (admiral), there's nothing mentioned about him attending Valley Central High School. Gnerally when it comes to "Notable alumni" lists, the most common selection criterion is that the person either already have a Wikipedia article written about them or be a reasonable candidate for such an article to be written per WP:ALMAMATER and Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists#Selection criteria; this is because only those individuals considered to be Wikipedia notable are really worth mentioning (see WP:Namechecking for more on this) and also because it's reasonable to expect any connection between the individual and the school is likely going to be found in the Wikipedia article about the person in question. So, even though there is a Wikipedia article about Moran, there is no sourced content in the article which actually verifies he attended/graduated from Valley Central. If you can add content to the article about Moran which shows that he did indeed graduate from Valley Central and provide a citation to a reliable source (as defined by Wikipedia) in support of this content, then it should make it easier for you to add his name to Valley Central High School#Notable alumni. The link you provided above does seem like a reliable source, so adding a single sentence to the Moran article should be OK. If you're not sure how to properly add citations to an article, please take a look at Help:Referencing for beginners. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:31, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hello @Gkelly2000:. If you look at the existing entries in the list, you will see that they are all blue wikilinks to already-existing articles about those people. Generally on Wikipedia, lists of "notables" only contain such entries, and any article subject, people included, has to meet Wikipedia's standards of "Notability".
- What you need to do is first to create, or have someone else create, a Wikipedia article about the individual, and then enter the name in the List and and wikilink it to that article.
- The less-than-good news is that it is very hard , particularly for an inexperienced Wikipedia editor, to create an acceptable article, but you are welcome to try: start by reading Wikipedia:Your first article.
- The better news is that anyone who has become Chief of Naval Operations qualifies as a Notable person – see in particular Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Notability guide, item 3 in the list under People. Good luck! {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.2.132 (talk) 00:23, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- Ummm - there already is an article about Moran, so MarchJuly advice applies. David notMD (talk) 02:22, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- Oops! My bad – trout-slap duly self administered. Marchjuly's response wasn't visible when I started mine, and I don't think I got an Edit Conflict because I'm usually careful to say so when I do. I foolishly assumed that the lack of an article was the problem because it so often is. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.2.132 (talk) 06:39, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- Actually, Marchjuly's advice needs a small amendment. It isn't necessary to show the admiral graduated, only attended. Per WP:ALUMNI, alumni status is based only on attendance not graduation and verifiable information for attendance for as little as one day is sufficient. Believe it or not, the one day thing has occurred. John from Idegon (talk) 03:17, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- Ummm - there already is an article about Moran, so MarchJuly advice applies. David notMD (talk) 02:22, 16 April 2019 (UTC)