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The fair use file I uploaded is about to be deleted. What can I do?
File:Longxiangqiao station diagram.jpg Félix An (talk) 02:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Following the directions on the page itself, it says
Note : if you believe that a free replacement image cannot be reasonably found or created please add one of the following without removing this tag...
. Alternatively you can reach out to Iruka13 who placed the CSD F7 on the page to begin with. TiggerJay (talk) 02:47, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Problems saving via Wayback Machine
I know this isn't a Wikipedia problem, but was just wondering if anyone else has experienced problems recently with trying to archive pages using Wayback Machine recently. I haven't been able to save any for many weeks now, never having experienced any problems with it before. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 04:42, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- It got hacked and attacked and now its slowly recovering (which can take a while).
In September 2024, the Internet Archive suffered a data breach that exposed 31 million records containing personal information, including email addresses and hashed passwords.[120] On October 9, 2024, the site went down due to a distributed denial-of-service attack.[121][122] On October 14, the site returned online, but it remained in read-only mode until November 4, during which time "Save Page Now" was disabled, replaced with a "Temporarily Unavailable" banner.[123]
-- Wayback Machine Polygnotus (talk) 09:26, 6 January 2025 (UTC)- You could use https://archive.ph/ I started using it when the WM went down. Its really really slow sometimes but if you get it in the morning (GMT) its fast. First time I used it had 5.5k entries waiting to archive. The Internet Archive, poor thing, has been right since its been hacked. It getting there slowly. scope_creepTalk 22:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Seeking Editor for Translated Wikipedia Article on Nozomi Nagata in Tribute to His Passing
My friend, Nagata Nozomi, a Japanese author, has recently passed away. In honor of him, I have translated his Wikipedia page into English and would like to publish it. The translation is complete, but I need assistance with editing it to meet Wikipedia’s standards, properly citing sources, and ensuring it adheres to Wikipedia’s writing format. I don’t have previous experience with editing or the Wikipedia writing style, so I would deeply appreciate the help of a kind editor or a volunteer to make the necessary adjustments. Thank you very much. Any support would mean a lot.
Original page: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/永田希?oldformat=true
Translated page: User:EternalPsyche/Nozomi Nagata. EternalPsyche (talk) 03:21, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- (moved from talk) '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 05:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- EternalPsyche, I haven't bothered to read the page ja:永田希; but I note that it does have references. Your translation does not. Us volunteers are busy: we answer specific questions and requests, but rarely if ever requests to turn (sorry, but) half-baked drafts into articles. So put in the references yourself: links on this page (WP:HD) will take you -- not directly, but simply enough -- to pages where the mechanics of referencing are explained. You say he had a "unique approach to reading" without saying what this approach was. What was it? (And which authoritative source, independent of Nagata, writes that it was unique?) You say that "Nagata's passion for literature was deeply influenced by his fascination with noise and industrial music" but you don't say what the influence was. What was it? Don't make Japanese script oblique ("italic"); doing so is ugly. And -- but no, that's enough for now. Happy editing! -- Hoary (talk) 05:58, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- -- Except that another quick look at ja:永田希, EternalPsyche, makes it clear that a number of what are formatted like references aren't really references. (Common are the publication details of books mentioned in the body text.) Where are the reliable sources that discuss Nagata or his works in some depth? These are necessary, in order to show that he's "notable", as defined by and for Wikipedia. Note that material produced by his publishers, and what he might have said in interviews, don't count. -- Hoary (talk) 06:12, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @EternalPsyche: I had a look at the article as well. It is a slightly WP:Promoish, using flowery and promotional language which is unsuitable for a mainspace biographical article. I put a couple of tags in that were needed. The JP references mainly constitutes interviews per Hoary's comments above. There is an obituary which is a start, but I think as he's an author, I would look for book reviews so he could pass WP:NAUTHOR. If you can find a couple of reviews for each of the books, 2 or 3 covered with a couple of reviews each would be ideal, then he will pass WP:NAUTHOR. However, the article itself needs substantial work. It reads a blog entry, is promo, so currently unsuitable for Wikipedia. You would need to send it to draft once you got the reviews. Hope that helps. scope_creepTalk 22:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- EternalPsyche I'm sorry for your loss. You could try asking for help at WT:WikiProject Japan. See also Help:Referencing. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:57, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Intersection of "What links here" for two pages
Hello all,
Trying to make sure that no pages link to both Help:Your first article and Wikipedia:Article creation (newly a redirect), as in the case of Wikipedia:Help Project#Pages needing work's bottom cell; I don't really care about changing all the links to point directly to the Help page, but rather just the pages that have links to both.
Any help appreciated!
JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 05:30, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @JuxtaposedJacob there are currently 287 pages that link to both. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 05:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- How did you get that number? JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 06:22, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- The PetScan query I linked above. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 06:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @JuxtaposedJacob: Our search [1] can also do it with
linksto:
and currently says 287. I would first update templates which link to the redirect [2]. Then wait a while for the job queue to update link tables before making the first search. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:42, 5 January 2025 (UTC) - @CanonNi: Oh my goodness, missed that entirely, thanks so much! Also thank you to @PrimeHunter JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 17:27, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @JuxtaposedJacob: Our search [1] can also do it with
- The PetScan query I linked above. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 06:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- How did you get that number? JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 06:22, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
delete draft
please Draft:Azaad (2025 film) 2 by Sunuraju (talk) 06:45, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- I believe you want Wikipedia:Drafts#Deleting_drafts. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 07:08, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Sunuraju There is no need for you to take any action to delete the draft. Abandoned drafts are automatically deleted in six months of inactivity. More likely in this case is that the film will attract some reviews once it has been released and the existing draft may help someone create an article meeting the film notability guideleines. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Revision history
Please look at User talk:Footballnerd2007 and User talk:Footballnerd2007/Archive 1. Today, the user archived their Talk page by moving it to Archive 1. Why can't I see the revision history of the Talk page? It looks like Archive 1 has the history the Talk page "should" have. Even if the user's archiving was unorthodox, I don't see how they can "eliminate" a page's history.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:13, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: are you asking how Footballnerd2007 moved the history of their talk page or whether there is a rule about moving the history of their talk page? I can't find a rule, but it is obviously unhelpful to readers and thus a bad idea. TSventon (talk) 15:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: This archiving method is described at Help:Archiving a talk page/Details#Other procedures. The method is still allowed, as far as I know, but is "generally no longer used". Moving/renaming a page automatically moves the history to the new page name, as always. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:47, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- They haven't eliminated it - what they did was move their talk page to the archive, and then created a new page at the talk page (or, well, created a redirect and then turned that into a talk page).
- I'm not sure it's the right way to do it, but it's completely possible for all users. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:48, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
as always
. Heh, I guess I've never seen it done before and noticed the effect. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:54, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
An interwiki redirect question
I recently saw Fuckloads, By the fuckload, and Fuckload, all of which are soft redirects to the Wiktionary entry for fuckload. I thought that it might be reasonable to hard redirect Fuckloads and By the fuckload to Fuckload, since that's the page whose title is closest to the Wiktionary entry. But is it acceptable to redirect soft redirects to each other? JJPMaster (she/they) 22:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Since there is no actual Wikipedia entry for any of these, I see no reason to not just keep the soft redirects. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:17, 5 January 2025 (UTC)