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August 14

Salah Al Bahar

You have written a new article in Wikipedia and not a draft. But so far it has not been reviewed or sent a note to me. An earlier article in the name of Murtaja Adel Nasser also wrote no reply — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akram.altameemi (talk • contribs) 00:09, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

@Akram.altameemi: Bahar is in the review process. Yopu need to read WP:NMUSIC and ensure that the article contains sourced information that demonstrates that he can comply with the criteria.

Nasser: you have been told before that articles about players who have only appeared in the Iraqi Premier League fail WP:NFOOTY / WP:FPL. As such the page is liable to be deleted. Still waiting on sources for international appearances in other articles you have created. Again (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 04:11, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Resubmission

Hello! I'm curious just how long it takes to have a re-submitted article reviewed? In January I had an article declined due to inline citations, and after helpful edits I was able to make the appropriate changes. I re-submitted it in the spring, and it has now been several months and I have yet to see anything. Now I'm wondering if I perhaps made a mistake in re-submitting it... is there any way that I or someone else can check? The article was Joe Sola. This would be greatly appreciated- thank you! - Alexandra — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexbuko (talk • contribs) 01:37, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

@Alexbuko: The draft has not been resubmitted as far as I can see. You need to click the blue button within the pink declinature notice to do so. Please be patient as there several thousand pages awaiting review and it can take 2 months or more. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 04:00, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Need help updating image for Wikimedia financials

At WP:CANCER the table has been updated for 2017-2018 but the image only goes to 2016-2017. Could someone with SVG editing skills please update the image? --Guy Macon (talk) 04:07, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

@Guy Macon: You might want to ask here also/instead Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop - FlightTime (open channel) 04:26, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the suggestion! --Guy Macon (talk) 04:33, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

@Guy Macon: You're welcome. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 15:27, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

UPDATE: I solved the problem on my page by replacing the image with a template. The other pages that use the image still need an upodated version. --Guy Macon (talk) 01:59, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

ScaleFocus page

Hi, I tried several times to create an official ScaleFocus page. So far without any results. It was denied by the contributors, but I still don't know the reason. Is there a way to understand what was the reason denying? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.156.47.57 (talk) 10:59, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

The draft Draft:ScaleFocus was declined as it was not considered sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. You might also want to read the conflict of interest guidelines. – Thjarkur (talk) 11:04, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. There is no such thing as "an official XXXX page" in Wikipedia. If Wikipedia has an article on ScaleFocus or anything else, that article does not belong to the subject, and the subject and its associates have no control over its content. Since it is not XXXX's page, it certainly can't be "XXXX's official page". --ColinFine (talk) 15:57, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Creating an article that has been previously deleted, but its subject now became more relevant?

The article Lee Tae-yong was (rightfully so) deleted back in 2017 for lack of individual notability, and his article now redirects to his band's page. (Relevant deletion discussion here.)

However, since then, I believe he became relevant enough to warrant an article on his own, since
1. Lee gained enough individual notability outside of his group (solo work and activities),
2. He contributed significantly to his group's body of work (songwriting and leadership),
3. He is the only member of SuperM (upcoming group which will be extensively discussed in media) not to have an article.
4. His body of work is comparable (if not more extensive) to some of his band's members' who do have an individual Wikipedia article.

I tried to remove the redirect from his page and substitute it with an article. It was promptly removed as per Articles for Deletion policy.
I also tried to submit the article as a draft to replace the existing article here.

Is there a better way to deal with creating articles about subjects who gained notability after being deleted/redirected? 3a4t (talk) 11:56, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Have a look at the Wikipedia:Deletion review process as you believe "significant new information has come to light since a deletion that would justify recreating the deleted page". Provide some evidence of notability and explain that the account of the closer of the AfD discussion is blocked, so you can't discuss your request with them first. TSventon (talk) 13:03, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Pinging @3a4t:. TSventon (talk) 13:05, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

TSventon is right about the route to take. I think the subject is notable, from the level of reliable coverage. When SuperM gets its own article (which seems likely), Taeyong would become notable through being a significant member of 2 distinct notable bands. Nosebagbear (talk) 13:10, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

By the way, the article should not be copied from the original article into a new draft article as that would lose the edit history of the original article. The policy is in Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. TSventon (talk) 13:43, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Noted, although I actually created the draft article from scratch, as I wasn't aware that the deleted article had once existed when I submitted it. I will now try to restore the original article. Thank you for your help! Pinging @TSventon: 3a4t (talk) 14:37, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

"upcoming group which will be extensively discussed in media" is discouraging. In Wikipedia discussion pages, it means "not notable yet, but will be one day, I promise". Maproom (talk) 17:07, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

@3a4t:, thankyou for confirming that you created the draft article from scratch, apologies if you were already aware of the guidance on copying. Did you notice the note from @Calliopejen1: on the article talk page: "If this article is ever restored, please check its text for potential copyright violations. See Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/CJojoC." I am not sure how urgent this is as I am not an expert in dealing with copyright violations.TSventon (talk) 10:39, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Translating articles

I am an experienced translator and copywriter and am trying to learn to translate articles, create articles and edit on Wikipedia. I have begun the English translation of an existing page in French on Wikipedia ( Alain Gachet - French geologist). Some content in the source document is incomplete and I would like to add more details to the English version than is cited in the orignal wiki page in French. I can provide references for the additions as there is more published material in English on the subject matter than in French. At this point, I am wondering if the additions need to made first in French and then I translate (though the references and notes my link to material published in English!) or should I go forward with the translation and add the supplementary information supported with the references and notes? Thanks for any advice you may be able to give so that I proceed appropriately and avoid any loss of time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FK049043 (talk • contribs) 12:45, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

@FK049043, you can add material and references to the English article, the English and the French articles do not have to be in sync. English articles can cite French sources and French articles can cite English sources, all that matters is that the information is verifiable. – Thjarkur (talk) 12:55, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

@FK049043: Thank you! From a narrow English project perspective, I suppose I should encourage you to start here. The French and English projects are entirely independent. However, if you intend to improve both projects, you may wish to improve the French article first and then translate, as this will likely minimize your total effort. However, this is completely up to you. -Arch dude (talk) 19:01, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Help to type in N'Ko language

Can someone help me to complete N'Ko typing in this page, to the nqo: line? I have already typed “ߥߞߌߔߘߋߞߎ” word, but is missing the other words... Thanks!!! --5.169.210.43 (talk) 16:44, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Which other words can't you see? You (assuming that 5.170.194.54 is you) didn't put anything in the final column. Note also that your link nqo: is a redlink; there is, as far as I can see, no Wikipedia in the N'Ko language. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:26, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

It has been approved and is waiting for creation. See incubator:Wp/nqo. Matching File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-nqo.svg to N'Ko script#Letters seems difficult and unreliable when you don't know the script. User:Odder uploaded the image. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:47, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

edit of dalvi

Dear sir/madam,

I am from the Maharashtra region of India and a dalvi myself. We are a member of maratha clan and growing up there most Dalvi names there are from Maratha clan. The wiki page accurately reflected that for many years until recently all references to Maratha link are removed from the page in spite of plenty of citations available all over internet. I tried to edit that, and my changes were reverted by a user called Serol . I would like to know how best to edit this page so that right information is reflected.

Thanks!

Best — Preceding unsigned comment added by JayMahaLakshmi (talk • contribs) 17:26, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

JayMahaLakshmi: the reference which you added was to the result of a Google search. Such sources are best avoided. Maybe that was why Serol removed it and the statement it supported. I suggest you try citing that source properly, something like this. Maproom (talk) 18:07, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

References

For show my biography in wikipedia

Hi wikipedia,

I'm mausam Kumar pandey and youtuber at Primary English YouTube channel, I want to show about my biography on wikkipedia , please help me for show my name biography and everything, I also want to show people about my self . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Primary English (talk • contribs) 18:42, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

I've removed your e-mail address because anyone can read this page and send spam. You seem to misunderstand that Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia that has articles only about subjects that have been written about in WP:Reliable sources. If you are not notable in the Wikipedia sense then you should use social media for your biography. Sorry to disappoint you. Incidentally, a YouTube channel that aims to educate ought to know the difference between the words "you're" and "your". Dbfirs 18:48, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

OP has now been blocked.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:11, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

needed: a couple of changes within the Des Moines Water Works page

in re https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Des_Moines_Water_Works and ... ... specifically its profile - box in its upper righthand and "key people" there:

Mr William G Stowe is dead. He died 14 April 2019. Mr Ted Corrigan is Interim CEO and General Manager effective 02 April 2019, when Mr Stowe resigned that morning.

Ms Diane Munns is Chairwoman of the Des Moines Water Works Board of Trustees ... ... current as of January 2019.

I tried to edit. But that box in the upper righthand cannot be opened to do so.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saffroncobra (talk • contribs) 19:05, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

@Saffroncobra: See {{Request edit}} - FlightTime (open channel) 19:16, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

I've made those edits for you. The infobox is defined in the heading paragraph. Dbfirs 19:52, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

2 subcategories not being populated by infobox calls

When trying to use these infobox templates:

{{Infobox comics story arc
<!--Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics--> 
|cat            = Captain America
}}

{{Infobox comics story arc
<!--Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics--> 
|cat            = Hulk (comics)
}}

It is not automatically categorizing into these two subcategories:

• Category:Captain America storylines
• Category:Hulk (comics) storylines

So there is always a redundancy where a superset category "Category:Storylines in comics" is included whenever these two subcategories are manually added. Can anyone figure out why these two aren't working? Most other ones work fine. 2pou (talk) 20:03, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

@2pou: {{Infobox comics story arc}} relied on a hard-coded list of category names. The list had not been updated with Captain America, Hulk (comics) and probably others. I have changed it to automatically add the "... storylines" category if it exists.[1] Your examples work now. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:12, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thank you! --2pou (talk) 22:43, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Millsboro, Delaware Page

I have been trying to make changes to the "Millsboro, Delaware" page, but my changes keep being "undone." I am the town manager of Millsboro, so I am authorized to make the changes in question. I am particularly concerned about the fact that the estimated population information currently being provided to users is inaccurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.119.222.106 (talk) 21:35, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Your changes are unsourced. To make your edit, just find a reliable source that verifies your changes and include it in your edit. – Thjarkur (talk) 21:41, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Please also read WP:COI and WP:PAID (the latter is mandatory) and make the necessary disclosures. You should also make edit requests at the talk page. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 21:45, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Sigh. Almost every editor in the world is "authorized" to edit that page: that's the way Wikipedia works. The only people who are NOT authorized to edit the page directly are those who have a conflict of interest and those who have a "paid editor" status with respect to that page. All "authorized" editors are expected to cite reliable sources (WP:RS) for each fact. -Arch dude (talk) 04:11, 15 August 2019 (UTC)