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List of Olympic medalists for the Philippines (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Nominator(s): 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 12:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because the list fits the FL criteria (by me fixing and sourcing all the items). This is my first FL nomination, so feel free to point out mistakes. Anyway, everything about the topic is covered and everything is sourced. Good to go. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 12:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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Drive-by comments
  • Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting |+ caption_text as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting |+ {{sronly|caption_text}} instead.
  • Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding !scope=col to each header cell, e.g. ! Year becomes !scope=col | Year. If the cell spans multiple columns with a colspan, then use !scope=colgroup instead.
  • Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding !scope=row to each primary cell, e.g. | 1987 becomes !scope=row | 1987 (on its own line). If the cell spans multiple rows with a rowspan, then use !scope=rowgroup instead.
  • Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 14:10, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More points

  • Please fix the ref error shown at the bottom of the page.
  • Remove the spacer rows between each set of olympics winners.
  • Add relevant wikilinks to the lead and some references. You can reuse the ones from later in the page, if appropriate.
  • Most of the references are missing archive links. Running IABOT on the page should fix most of these. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 14:20, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait, what ref error? 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 04:39, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Refs are missing archive links, no ref error though. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:51, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can I use another script/bot? The screen says, "Permission error". 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 08:10, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, got the hang of it, archived the links. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 08:24, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, ping me here when you take care of the rest of the stuff that I mentioned. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:29, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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  • Nothing is linked in the lead - add appropriate links
  • "Ever since then, the Philippines gained multiple medals, with their first gold medal gained" => "The Philippines gained their first gold medal"
  • The Philippines is treated as both singular and plural in the lead
  • "competing in the Men's 100 metres" - no reason for capital M in the middle of a sentence
  • "In the next Olympic Games at Amsterdam, Netherlands" => "In the next Olympic Games in Amsterdam, Netherlands"
  • "finished third at the Men's 200 metre breaststroke aquatic event" => "finished third in the men's 200 metre breaststroke aquatic event"
  • "until 2020 Summer Olympics." => "until the 2020 Summer Olympics."
  • "The country would also win another bronze medal" => "The country also won another bronze medal"
  • "gained a bronze medal in the Men's 400 metre hurdles athletic event" - no reason for capital M
  • Diaz and Yidefonso image captions do not need full stops
  • "was beaten at the gold medal bout" => "was beaten in the gold medal bout"
  • "The next Olympic medals for the Philippines come from Boxing," => "The next Olympic medals for the Philippines came from boxing,"
  • "and his brother Mansueto "Onyok" Velasco, claiming silver" - no reason for comma after his name
  • "at Atlanta, United States" => "in Atlanta, United States"
  • " Hidilyn Diaz finished second at the Women's" => " Hidilyn Diaz finished second in the women's"
  • "at Rio de Janeiro, Brazil." => "in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil."
  • "gold medal finish in the Women's 55 kg weightlifting category" => "gold medal finish in the women's 55 kg weightlifting category"
  • "the other athletes finishing with medals are" => "the other athletes finishing with medals were"
  • "silver medal in the Women's featherweight boxing finals" => "silver medal in the women's featherweight boxing finals"
  • "also winning a silver medal in the Men's flyweight boxing finals" => "also winning a silver medal in the men's flyweight boxing finals"
  • "Eumir Marcial, with a bronze medal finish in the men's middleweight boxing category semi-finals"
  • "finished first at the Men's floor exercise and Men's vault artistic" => "finished first in the men's floor exercise and men's vault artistic"
  • "at Paris, France." => "in Paris, France."
  • "two other athletes won with medals" => "two other athletes won medals"
  • "a bronze medal finish in the Women's flyweight boxing category semifinals" => "a bronze medal finish in the women's flyweight boxing category semi-finals"
  • "bronze medal in the Women's featherweight boxing category semifinals" => "bronze medal in the women's featherweight boxing category semi-finals"
  • In the list of medalists table, the "name" column should sort based on surname, not forename
  • No reason for blank rows after every games
  • "Nesthy Petecio is the first Filipino boxer to win" => "Nesthy Petecio was the first Filipino boxer to win"
  • In the Youth Olympics section, there's a footnote symbol that doesn't link to anything
  • "Luis Gabriel Moreno who did not officially medal for the Philippines at the 2014 Youth Summer Olympics did win" => "Luis Gabriel Moreno, who did not officially medal for the Philippines at the 2014 Youth Summer Olympics, did win". Also link his name
  • "at the Mixed team event" => "in the mixed team event"
  • "The following are medalists in official demonstrations sports" => "The following are medalists in official demonstration sports"
  • in the Medal tally by individual table, the "person" column should sort based on surname, not forename
  • Gold/siver/bronze column headers are randomly coloured in some tables but not others
  • "teams that are composed of members from more than one NOCs." => "teams that are composed of members from more than one NOC."
  • Also, you need to explain what NOC means in that note
  • That's what I got -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:53, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
     Done 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 04:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    One thing I didn't pick up before - why do all the tables have column headers of Gold/Silver/Bronze except for one which has 1/2/3.......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:04, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Matthewrb

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  • All of your images need alt text. For more information, see MOS:ALT.
  • While it is redirected, Leopoldo Serantes is misspelled in the history section.
  • The icons in the Summer Olympics table under List of Medals need to be marked as decorative images, per MOS:PDI.
  • Your references columns should be unsortable. In addition, use {{refh}} to make the column information clearer.
  • The system of marking active competitors with just bold text is difficult to read for many people (and screen readers might ignore it entirely.). I would recommend using a template for that purpose: {{active}} along with a symbol like {{double-dagger}} for the screen readers.
  • In addition, why are you denoting active competitors only in the "Multiple Medalists" table?
  • You have two different footnote systems going, {{refn}} with a note parameter and {{efn}}. I would pick one and stick to it, or differentiate why you have two.
  • Footnote a has an unnecessary redlink.
  • Why do we have a {{DEFAULTSORT}} with the article title with some additional terms capitalized? Sorts ignore case, so I believe this is unnecessary.

That's what I got. ~ Matthewrb Talk to me · Changes I've made 15:47, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For your third bullet, how to do that? 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 04:01, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Didn't feel the need to insert the dagger, and didn't include Medal tally by individual, since they are already mentioned above. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 04:25, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It should be as simple as adding |alt= |link= to the images.
Whatever change you made also added empty rows to the Summer Olympics table, in the List of Medals section. ~ Matthewrb Talk to me · Changes I've made 14:30, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 09:01, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not seeing the change for my third bullet, but that might be a caching issue. Support ~ Matthewrb Talk to me · Changes I've made 16:12, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The icons are assigned to a specific template, hence why I didn't do your request. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 04:05, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
An IP is reverting my edits for the active competitors, because bold words are regularly only shown in the Multiple medalists table. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 08:21, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey man im josh

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Focusing only on reference formatting, and not whether the references actually verify the information:

Other comments:

  • The tables lack row and column scopes
  • "Mixed team" should not be capitalized mid sentence
  • Do not add empty rows into tables to split them up further, it messes with accessibility (I don't have the link off the top of my head right now)
  • None of the pictogram images hve alt text
  • Is there a reason home regions are not linked?
  • Lead needs work, it's choppy as can be.
  • There's a multiple medalist table under the medalist table which already pretty clearly shows who won multiple medals
  • Reference columns should be unsortable

There's a lot, and I could have actually said more, but this is what I have for now. Ping me when it's been addressed and I'll look through again. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:42, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed the ref errors. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 08:17, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The multiple medalist table is shown in other Olympic medalists lists. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 08:21, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, an IP is reverting my edits removing the empty rows referencing other articles. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 08:22, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]