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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by FrB.TG via FACBot (talk) 24 December 2024 [1].

Fearless (Taylor Swift song)

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Nominator(s): Ippantekina (talk) 02:28, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about a song by Taylor Swift when she used to be a country musician. Sweet like American Pie, this song will make you jump off your seat and dance! I believe this article is comprehensive, well-written, and well-sourced for an FA :) Ippantekina (talk) 02:28, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aoba47

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Moved to Wikipedia:Peer review/Midnights/archive1
 – Aoba47 (talk) 14:58, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Aoba47: hey, thank you very much for the comments! I think this should go to Wikipedia:Peer review/Midnights/archive1 and not here. Ippantekina (talk) 04:09, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Apologies for that. I have never done that before. I feel quite foolish for it. I will move the comments over there, but I will make sure to comment on this FAC to make up for my mistake. I am leaving this up as a placeholder for that purpose. Aoba47 (talk) 15:00, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would mention the retrospective reviews and rankings in the lead.
  • There is a bit of repetition in the first paragraph of the "Background and writing" section, specifically with these two parts, ("Taylor Swift wrote songs for her second studio album" and "Swift wrote songs about"). The second instance could be changed to something like "Swift based her songs on love and personal experiences", but that is just a rough idea so feel free to revise it in a different way.
  • The last part of this sentence seems overly wordy to me: (She first conceived the track while touring, when she was unattached romantically: "I wasn't even in the beginning stages of dating anybody.") The "unattached romantically" word choice along with the quote seem like a lot to just saying that Swift was single at the time of writing this song. I think something along the lines of "She was single when she first conceived the track while touring." would be more concise with losing anything.
  • I am uncertain on the information regarding the "best dress" lyric is organized in the "Music and lyrics" section. It is currently brought up at the end of the second paragraph and then discussed in different points in the third paragraph. When I first read this section, it came off as a bit unfocused and repetitive as the prose would bring up this lyric, seemingly move on from it, and then bring it up again. Why not discuss everything about this lyric together instead?
  • I would avoid using "meanwhile" in this context, (Amanda Ash of the Edmonton Journal, meanwhile, thought). Meanwhile implies that two actions are happening at the same time, and this sentence is using a source from 2008 and the previous sentence is using a source from 2024. I would just avoid using this transition in general as I do not think it really fits when discussing critical commentary.
  • For the "Release and commercial performance" section, why not put all of the chart information into its own paragraph? Right now, the U.S. charts are attached to the paragraph about the song's release as an official and full-fledged single and the international charts are put into their own paragraph.
  • For this part, (She sang the song donning a silver sparkly cocktail dress), I think it is best to avoid the "sang the song" phrasing when possible as it does come off as unnecessarily repetitive. That being said, it is difficult to not make this section come off as repetitive when there are only so many ways you can say that an artist sang/perform something so it is not a major deal for me. It may be best to change this instance to "performed the song" and revise the previous sentence to "also sang it" to avoid this repetition.
  • This is more of a nitpick-y so apologies in advance, but I am uncertain about the "On a less enthusiastic side" wording. I think that "In a less enthusiastic review" would read better.
  • This is not a requirement for a FAC, but I would still encourage you to archive your web citations to avoid any potential headaches with link rot and death. I know from experience that it can be a real pain.

I hope that these comments are helpful. I do not notice anything major, and most of my comments above are minor and more nitpicks. Hopefully, this will inspire others to review this FAC. Once all of my comments are addressed, I will read through the article a few more times just to make sure I have not missed anything. Great work as always, and have a great rest of your week. Aoba47 (talk) 17:17, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Aoba47:, many thanks for taking time reviewing this article! Although it was not obligatory of you to make up for the Midnights PR, I really appreciate it :) I've addressed all of your points accordingly. Let me know if anything remains unresolved. Cheers, Ippantekina (talk) 04:09, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for addressing everything. I support this FAC for promotion based on the prose. Aoba47 (talk) 03:22, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Media review and support from Crisco 1492

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  • Back when I was teaching, I'd usually use "When I was your age, Taylor Swift was country" as a joke. Happy to review

Media:

Prose:

  • Generally songs and other media articles include year of release in the first sentence.
  • footage from the tour were - Footage uses "was", generally
  • Is "character" the correct term when referring to something in a song? Persona is more commonly used in literary studies to discuss the narrative voice used in poetry, which seems like it would be more parallel to a song than the prose-oriented "character"
  • She pays attention to the details, such as how the pavement glistens in the moonlight after a rain, how her date "runs [his] hand through [his] hair", and how she gets excited and nervous anticipating a first kiss. - Is this the persona or Swift?
  • such as dancing in the rain in one's best costumes - Textually this is very similar to the song lyrics you just quoted. Perhaps a paraphrase?
  • On the Billboard Hot 100 chart dated November 1, 2008, "Fearless" debuted and peaked at number nine on the Billboard Hot 100,
  • Swift thereby became the first female artist since Madonna in 1998 to have two top-10 debuts in one calendar year - What was the first one?
  • which evaluated the impact of Swift's songwriting. - Doesn't make sense to me
  • Several critics have ranked the track highly among all songs in Swift's discography
  • tropes - Probably worth a link
  • to conjecture romantic whimsy - To "form an opinion or supposition about (something) on the basis of incomplete information"? I'm not sure this is the correct term.
  • other dramatized Fearless songs - How are the other songs dramatized?
  • It intermingles Swift's performances of other songs and behind-the-scene footage. - The video or the footage? Also, intertwines with is probably the better phrase

Medxvo

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  • I think there is a MOS:PIPE issue with certified platinum and platinum certification. And why are we in prose wikilinking "It received a platinum certification in Australia" but not "The Recording Industry Association of America certified the single platinum"?
  • "The song also charted in Canada and Spain" - what about the United Kingdom?
  • "On the Billboard Hot 100 chart" - can we indicate that it's a US chart (and that the paragraph is mainly for the US charts)?
  • "The Guardian's Alexis Petridis was not as welcoming" - perhaps we can add his singles ranking so the review's placement can be justified, otherwise it's kind of confusing
  • "Jason Mraz's "I'm Yours" and Train's "Hey Soul Sister" - "Jason Mraz's "I'm Yours" (2008) and Train's "Hey, Soul Sister" (2009)" (why "Hey Soul Sister" instead of "Hey, Soul Sister"?)

That's all I've got, good work as always :) Medxvo (talk) 19:14, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for the prose review! I've addressed your comments accordingly. Let me know if the pipes make sense now :) Ippantekina (talk) 04:27, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source review - pass

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  • Refs 9 and 77 are duplicated
  • Ref 20 is still active for me (and seems to have a subscription access now)
  • Ref 29; also subscription access
  • Refs 14, 46, 61, and 65 can be archived
  • Can we use the liner notes of Speak Now World Tour – Live instead of refs 57 and 58 for the mashup songs details?

Medxvo (talk) 19:14, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this. I've fixed some sources and run another IABot round so that's it... Ippantekina (talk) 04:31, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Query

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You may. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:34, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comments

  • It maybe worth it to include a sentence about the re-recorded song's commercial performance in the lead. I mean it did chart in Australia (among others) which the original song failed to.
  • You seem to be using US in the first instance and "United States" later, both in the lead ("Big Machine Records released 'Fearless' to US country radio" and "In the United States, the single peaked at number nine") and the main body.
  • "Others complimented the lyrics for portraying universal feelings evoked by love that appealed to a broad audience, such as Alice Fisher of The Guardian" - the way "Alice Fisher" directly follows "broad audience", it implies that Fisher belongs to the broad audience the song appealed to. FrB.TG (talk) 15:43, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for catching these, I've tweaked them accordingly :) Ippantekina (talk) 05:03, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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