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Michael Raiter

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Last AfD was 7 months ago and no consensus. I still believe he fails WP:BIO and WP:AUTHOR. There is no inherent notability in any of the roles he has had. LibStar (talk) 00:21, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with Melbourne School of Theology: As was proposed last time, seems fine to me. I don't see much additional coverage. Oaktree b (talk) 02:41, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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David Rowley (writer)

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Help! Can't find any reviews of the Beatles books written by this guy, hence failing WP:NAUTHOR. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:05, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are at least two sigcov reviews of his books on ProQuest. 1 for Beatles For Sale, 1 for All Together Now. That's not quite there but I can't do an in depth check now - however, it's not nothing. I will vote after I have done a better check. PARAKANYAA (talk) 07:56, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Does one of the ProQuest articles include a review from The Spectator? A review for All Together Now shows up in Google Search, but it's a dead link and not archived from what I can tell. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 23:54, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Significa liberdade Yes, that's one of them. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:54, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@PARAKANYAA: Is the other the review in Goldmine? Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:02, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Significa liberdade Yes. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:07, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A. K. A. Firoze Noon

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From reading the cringe-worthy prose of early revisions ("one of the finest sons of the soil, who shines in the civil and political society all by his own radiance ...", etc.), this appears to have been created as a memorial, which is not what the encyclopedia is for.

Searching online and offline in English and Bengali found nothing beyond the short obituary and death anniversary notice, a primary source program listing, and bookseller sites. It doesn't amount to significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources.

After stripping out everything for which no source could be identified, it is clear that he meets none of WP:POLITICIAN, WP:CREATIVE, or WP:GNG. Worldbruce (talk) 18:44, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Gary Goh

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Fails WP:BIO, WP:NAUTHOR, WP:NPROF and WP:GNG. I can't find a single reliable secondary source on him, and this version of the article (recreated in May 2024) is sourced only by press releases and the author's own works. I could find no independent reviews of any of his books in a WP:BEFORE search, and nothing remarkable about his academic career. His press releases say he was a visiting/emeritus professor at the now-defunct California International Business University in the US (which appears to have a been a visa mill), South-West State University in Russia, and an online outfit called "SABI University" in France which appears to be a degree mill.

Outcome of the last AFD was to draftify per creator's request in April 2019. The draft was abandoned, and deleted in March 2021. Editors searching for significant coverage, please note that there is an unrelated Singaporean film producer with this name, and an unrelated Malaysian athlete. Wikishovel (talk) 16:32, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Can't find significant secondary coverage, all of the sources are either written by the subject or press releases. hinnk (talk) 03:39, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. He seems to be a prolific writer of self-published books, which could be a claim to notability if we could find enough reliably-published reviews of them. But I didn't find any. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nandini Balial

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Complete lack of notability slygent (talk) 04:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete There still does not seem to be any notabilty. Odd closure of the first AfD. Xxanthippe (talk) 07:19, 9 August 2024 (UTC),[reply]
Delete - so some published articles in notable publications, but no sources talking about her as a subject. There is one brief mention of one of her articles in one book. I don't see how the threshold for WP:GNG would be passed here. --Soman (talk) 11:16, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. We have the usual problem with articles about journalists, that it is difficult to find sources about her because they are masked by so many other articles that are by her rather than about her. But it is the sources about her that we need to have an article here, our current article doesn't supply any, and I didn't find any. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:41, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sophia Moestrup

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Last AfD almost 7 years ago was no consensus. I don't think she meets WP:BIO or WP:PROF. LibStar (talk) 04:38, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Catfurball (talk) 17:31, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I'll make some edits, and you'll see if it still should be deleted. Sophia 71.191.12.87 (talk) 15:23, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. My opinion from 7 years ago remains valid today: for someone whose most prominent activity is book editing, we'd need a lot more evidence for notability as a book editor such as heavily reviewed books with reviews discussing her role as editor rather than the scattering of reviews of co-edited volumes that I found ([1] [2] [3]). Nothing else stands out as likely to provide notability. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:51, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This person doesn't meet WP:NPROF and I agree with David Eppstein that there's not enough to substantiate notability as an editor. Qflib (talk) 22:00, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zhu Yudong

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I can’t see any in depth coverage in RIS to indicate that this subject is notable. There may be sources in Chinese I didn’t manage to turn up - if not this article should go. Mccapra (talk) 00:58, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. I have been finding Chinese language sources for this subject, who seems to be a pretty famous director. I haven't yet found any RS that demonstrate individual notability, but I'll look again later today and report my findings or not findings as applicable. Our article is longer than his Baidu page, which seems kinda sus. Folly Mox (talk) 11:24, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Here are some sources I found:
1. Wang, Xiaoye 王小野 (2021-02-18). ""数字文创展——来自四维空间的线圈世界"展览开幕：用科技与艺术传递光与爱" ["Digital Cultural and Creative Exhibition - Coil World from Four-Dimensional Space" Exhibition Opens: Delivering Light and Love with Technology and Art]. china.com [zh] (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-08-12. Retrieved 2024-08-12.
  The article provides a passing mention. The article notes: "中央新影集团著名导演朱昱东". From Google Translate: "Zhu Yudong, a famous director from China Film Group"
2. "电影《海霞》要拍续集了" [The movie "Haixia" is going to have a sequel]. Wenzhou Business Daily [zh] (in Chinese). 2012-08-30. p. 文娱 14.
  The article notes: "月中旬到10月初开拍。执导此部电影的总导演为中央电视台副台长、中央新影集团总裁高峰。导演为中央电视台科教节目制作中心导演朱昱东，他的电影剧本《达西的季节》、《他们》曾分别获得国家广播电影电视总局夏衍杯剧本奖、中国台湾“行政院新闻局”优良剧本征选大"
  From Google Translate: "...Filming will start from mid-October to early October. The chief director of this movie is Gao Feng, deputy director of CCTV and president of China Film Group. The director is Zhu Yudong, director of CCTV's Science and Education Program Production Center. His movie scripts "Darcy's Season" and "They" have won the Xia Yan Cup Script Award of the State Administration of Radio, Film and Television and the Excellent Script Selection Competition of the "Executive Yuan News Bureau" of Taiwan, China..."
Cunard (talk) 09:12, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The Chinese Wikipedia article was deleted in December 2010 after a sparsely attended discussion at zh:Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2021/12/04#朱昱东. The sources I found suggest Zhu Yudong is notable but are not by themselves enough for him to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline or Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria. If more sources cannot be found, I would recommend delete. I hope more sources can be found. Cunard (talk) 09:12, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for looking into this. Mccapra (talk) 09:20, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bret Kamwi

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Article doesn't meet WP:NAUTHOR and WP:ACTOR. At most impact, for directing a quite significantly covered play, I won't have at prejudice with redirecting to List of Namibian writers. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 13:46, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bimal Dey

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Doesn't appear to meet WP:NAUTHOR. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 13:33, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The one review is a start at demonstrating criterion #3 of WP:NAUTHOR, but the bookseller page and his book do nothing to help. Searches in English and Bengali returned one article in a regional French newspaper about him presenting an artwork to the mayor of Saint-Paul-en-Chablais, but nothing about it suggests a significant depth of coverage.[4] I don't see a fundamental improvement since the first time this was deleted. --Worldbruce (talk) 22:45, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Davey2010, OccultZone, and Thomas.W: Pinging as concerned editors all unblocked participants in the first discussion. --Worldbruce (talk) 22:54, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. ~ Deloar Akram (Talk • Contribute) 15:03, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jon Radoff

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Appears to fail WP:NBIO - while it does have a piece of significant coverage, the InfoWorld article, the others are just announcements and primary source interviews without substantive discussion. It does not pass WP:NARTIST either due to the fact he was just a co-developer or director of most games he made. When the article was first made it also failed NBIO and does not seem to have remedied that situation. There are a lot of minor mentions, but a lack of SIGCOV. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom, still fails the If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability. as most of them are primary and just trivial Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 05:51, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: ComputerHope database entry. This appears to be a follow up from Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Beamable, note that gamerDNA, founded by Radoff, also has an article.. IgelRM (talk) 21:23, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

When you add this Ars Technica article, combined with PC Gamer and Boston Globe articles, I do think GuildCafe/GamerDNA passes WP:NCORP, so I will not be nominating it for deletion. Though I can't say the same for its creator yet. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:30, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But the Ars article heavily quotes Radoff, so I think WP:ATD would be feasible again. Not going by guidelines briefly, GamerDNA appeared to exist from 2006 to 2011(?), while Radoff had a career from 1992 to now. IgelRM (talk) 00:22, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry, I think keep the article if we use the sources from GamerDNA and Disruptor Beam and maybe merge GamerDNA here. Sources for Disruptor: gamesindustry.biz, gamedaily.biz, pocketgamer.biz IgelRM (talk) 17:15, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fiona Krautil

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I don't see how she meets WP:BIO or WP:AUTHOR. Most of the sources merely confirm facts about her and I found nothing in a google news search. LibStar (talk) 02:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I have already added more references to this article to show notability. She has been written about in the Australian press with some brief bios in those articles. She advised the Federal Government and argued for innovative labour policies for women long before they were legislated by government such as paid maternity leave, flexible working hours, better access to child care. I will add more to her article later.LPascal (talk) 06:10, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Additional comment- Also she has brief bios in Who's Who in Australia 2002 and 2009 and is listed in the Encyclopedia of Australian Science and Innovation https://www.eoas.info/biogs/P004276b.htm LPascal (talk) 06:27, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Additional comment: A short bio and interview is here and shows some of her impact on government policy. https://aclw.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Leadership-Interviews-alphabetical.pdf by Australian Centre for Leadership for Women https://aclw.org/research-and-publications/leadership-interviews/leadership-interviews/LPascal (talk) 09:43, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if an interview would be a primary source. ACLW invited her for an interview. LibStar (talk) 03:42, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as sources are either not reliable or not providing sufficient support to meet WP:GNG. Twinkle1990 (talk) 11:43, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Which sources do you think are not reliable?LPascal (talk) 09:02, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the available sources don't demonstrate GNG here. LusikSnusik (talk) 10:31, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. This article is important enough. Also there are more good references available to add to this article. Here is one: "Fiona Krautil produced a discussion pack on ‘What gets in the way of Women’s Advancement?’ for discussion at the Talent Council and the Succession Council, both of which exist to identify and develop high potential people." [5] Rockycape (talk) 04:58, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That link doesn't establish notability and is not WP:SIGCOV. The fact that she produced a discussion pack doesn't really advance notability. LibStar (talk) 03:24, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep The article is important but needs more improvements with references and details. my opinion is to keep the article. Yakov-kobi (talk) 07:22, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. She fails WP:GNG, WP:NBIO with a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Several sources exist but they are WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS (e.g. Sydney Morning Herald), WP:TRADES publications (e.g. Lawyer's Weekly) and WP:PRIMARYSOURCES (e.g. official bios). At first I thought her entry in the Encyclopedia of Australian Science and Innovation might qualify her, but it does not appear to be a "dictionary of national biography" (which would be the Australian Dictionary of Biography, where Krautil does not appear) per WP:ANYBIO criterion 3; not only is it not the national biographical dictionary, it appears to be a bullet-point listing of a few posts and articles by her -- not an encyclopedic entry on her life and significance. (The EASI also appears to accept user-submitted content, potentially making it WP:USERGENERATED). All told, an apparently accomplished individual who does *not* pass notability guidelines. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:10, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dclemens1971, your final comment, an apparently accomplished individual who does pass notability guidelines., is in conflict with your argument to Delete this article. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz thanks for flagging, that was a typo—now fixed! Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:18, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The WP:BURDEN of proof is on those wishing to insert or keep material. Here we have an article about a BLP subject, sourced to interviews, passing mentions, and user-generated content. Only keep assertions in this process so far appear as applicable as personal opinions. Burden is not met. My reasonable BEFORE finds nothing useful. Fails ANYBIO, GNG, and AUTHOR. I thank User:Dclemens1971 for their source analysis. BusterD (talk) 14:52, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - head of government department is sufficient notability, in addition to the sources cited above should be sufficient to keep the article for now. Cavepavonem (talk) 04:52, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is no inherent notability with being head of a government department. LibStar (talk) 09:20, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion above has already challenged the sources. Can you rebut the analysis showing they do not qualify instead of just asserting they are sufficient? Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:10, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uncited assertions of notability which are solely personal opinions aren't usually compelling. A lot of them have been made here. These opinions are neither sourced nor policy-based. BusterD (talk) 20:20, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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