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Peter Rowley (disambiguation)

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One notable Peter, another not so notable and one partial match can all be handled by one or two hatnotes in Peter Rowley. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:38, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:35, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Camarines (disambiguation)

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Unnecessary disambiguation: Camarines already redirects to Ambos Camarines, and a hatnote linking to Camarines Norte and Sur is already at the top of the article. HueMan1 (talk) 08:21, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Disambiguations and Philippines. HueMan1 (talk) 08:21, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Catchment area (disambiguation)

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Disambiguation page not required (WP:ONEOTHER). Primary topic article has a hatnote to the only other use. De-prodded (correctly) by @GB fan: with edit summary "remove PROD, was previously PRODed 20:13, 10 June 2014‎‎‎ and later removed, must go to WP:AFD". Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:55, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Disambiguations. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:55, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:ONEOTHER. – sgeureka ^t•c 14:56, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Israeli occupation (disambiguation)

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Unnecessary disambiguation page. The guideline WP:Broad-concept article says not to create a dab page when we already have an article—Israeli-occupied territories—that covers all of the subjects listed on the dab page (and has convenient links for the subtopics in the first few sentences of the lead). (t · c) buidhe 03:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Disambiguations, Israel, Lebanon, Palestine, and Syria. (t · c) buidhe 03:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This could be useful for below pages
Astropulse (talk) 03:40, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean, "This could be useful for below pages"? Articles don't link to dab pages except as a hatnote, but hatnotes are not appropriate for any of these articles because their titles are unambiguous. (t · c) buidhe 03:48, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If someone google, Israeli occupation and reaches west bank occupation - disambiguation page may be used to direct to appropriate page they are looking for Astropulse (talk) 03:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. I have nothing else to add, it's simply redundant. Jdcomix (talk) 12:32, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as a violation of an important guideline: WP:Broad-concept article. gidonb (talk) 14:00, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as redundant. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 17:30, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as redundant. One can add {{lookfrom|Israeli occupation}} to the bottom of Israeli-occupied territories if one really wants to see the WP:PARTIAL matches. – sgeureka ^t•c 15:02, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. There is already an article about Israeli-occupied territories. Hogo-2020 (talk) 07:49, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vĩnh Hòa

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All of the entries on this dab page are redlinks, apart from one to the Vĩnh Hòa, Nha Trang location. This disambiguation page does not list articles associated with the same title. It is effectively being used as a category page, ~~so it would be better converted to a category~~. Northernhenge (talk) 11:57, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete those red links will less likely to be created as it lacks notability or even mentioned in the articles per se so it clearly violates MOS:DABRL Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 12:11, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: DAB with one entry, nothing to DAB. I don't see any particular benefit to creating a category for this either. -- D'n'B-t -- 12:51, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:00, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: It is not a problem if dab page entries are red links, as long as they include one blue link to an article which mentions the topic. I've cleaned up this dab page, and the remaining red-linked communes are all mentioned in their district pages (though not sourced in most/all cases). For all I know this means "North area" or something similarly generic, but it seems useful to offer a dab page given that this placename is used for so many identifiable communes. It's now a properly formatted dab page with valid entries. PamD 08:22, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks – I can see now that wp:PRIMARYRED could apply. I’ve added a link to Vĩnh Hòa, An Giang. I see there are other articles for similarly names places, for example
but it would need a native speaker or subject expert to say whether or not they are the same name, and whether (as PamD says) the name is significant in itself. I still think a category would be a better way of grouping these together though via their larger province areas, given the unlikelihood of notability being established for each individual commune/ward. The articles we do have pretty much just say the places exist. --Northernhenge (talk) 10:03, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure what you mean, as you can't have red linked entities in a category. You wouldn't want a category of "Districts which include a commune called Vinh Hoa". Given that these all get a mention on their district page, it seems a useful and correct dab page. PamD 10:21, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You wouldn't want a category of "Districts which include a commune called Vinh Hoa" – True! --Northernhenge (talk) 11:17, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Northernhenge I still don't understand what you meant when you said a category would be a better way of grouping these together though via their larger province areas. Could you clarify? PamD 12:02, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think it would have resembled "Districts which include a commune called Vinh Hoa" which, now I’ve seen it written down, doesn’t look sensible. --Northernhenge (talk) 16:40, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And as you suggest, those of us who aren't familiar with Vietnamese have no right to make assumptions as to whether these other places are the same or different - but I've recently almost confused placenames Unsworth and Usworth in my own country, so there's no reason to suppose that they are the same. Best left well alone, as long as dab pages are correctly formatted and we don't have red links without a mention in a blue-linked article. PamD 10:32, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The Vietnamese vi:Vĩnh_Hòa_(định_hướng) has 14 blue links, of which 4+2 seem substantial (non-stub) articles. These are not the usual dab redlinks because of non-notability, but because of language barrier and (deemed) low importance for en-wiki. But that's not the problem of the Dab page, so I appeal to WP:IAR in this case. – sgeureka ^t•c 13:19, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 18:02, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Disambiguations

Disambiguations

Peter Rowley (disambiguation)

Camarines (disambiguation)

Catchment area (disambiguation)

Israeli occupation (disambiguation)

Vĩnh Hòa

Proposed deletions

Redirects for discussion

See also