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Help with an article?
I'm coming to you directly rather than to the India noticeboard, as you're both a patient editor and a very thorough one. (Plus you're almost always the one who responds to my requests...) There's a bit of a situation going on at W (2014 film). Long story short, the film was created by the people involved with the film and they've made attempts to edit the article. These edits were extremely detrimental to the article as one edit prompted another user to nominate it for deletion. (I came across the article because the movie's logo was up for a speedy.) I almost nominated it for deletion but decided to hold off since I did manage to find some coverage for the movie. It's incredibly weak coverage and it's light enough to where I honestly couldn't tell you if it would survive an AfD if it ran through a full week. It's enough to where it might, but the coverage is from a very specific period in time. There are no reviews in any places we'd consider to be a RS. In any case, the biggest problem came from the movie's producer, who came back on to edit the page. The edits not only removed the coverage that I'd put on the article (saying that they were out of date), but the edits were also largely promotional. There was some discussion on my talk page, which has been moved over to the article's talk page upon the producer's request. It's kind of turned into a circular argument but the basic is that the producer isn't aware of the basic rules of verifiability on Wikipedia. Myself and Anup have tried to help but the producer is either very unaware of the guidelines or very adamant on getting his way. I think it's a mixture of the both, but mostly the latter. You'll probably get a better reception from the producer than I did, as my remarks seemed to have been largely dismissed because I wasn't Indian. The producer says this isn't so, but it kind of comes across that way.
I'll warn you, it's a ploopy-storm you'll be wading into but I think that we need a third editor to wade in here and help mediate. You're really good at doing this, so I figured that you'd be a good person to ask for this favor. Plus you might be able to help look for more sources. I can give you a more thorough rundown via e-mail if you want- I'll shoot you one so you have my address. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 15:39, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hello,
I'm coming to you directly rather than to the India noticeboard, as you're. . . etc
—Nice to learn that.
Long story short, the film was created by the people involved with the film and they've made attempts to edit the article. . . etc
— Yes, that seems to be a clear-case of CoI. I have been shouting on this issue for a long time— a large number of Indian productions houses and groups are directly engaging themselves or appointing editors to make promote their content. Here the only difference is that they have confessed.
There was some discussion on my talk page. . .
— I have read parts of this discussion. You are tackling it wonderfully. It is my personal opinion that we should be a little bit more strict here. I have checked their posts contain some fantastic bogus points. I feel, we may either ignore those or answer in one sentence—
| They say | We may reply |
|---|---|
| We are working on a sensitive issues | We just don't care about your work and your ideas and dreams. Wikipedia is not a social service and creating an article is not a philanthropic work. The only thing we understand is Wikipedia's policies and guidelines like WP:RS, WP:Notability, Wikipedia:NPOV etc and everyone must follow these rules |
| We are working on an important social issue" | |
| We are a small production house | |
| A small budget movie like W made with high dreams | |
| Our work will be very important for society, humanity etc | |
| You are not Indian | That is absolutely invalid. Once again, it is policies and guidelines one editor needs to follow. That's all. Dismissing a non-Indian editor's point without any valid reason is Wikipedia:Systemic bias and such things should be strictly handled. |
Tito☸Dutta 16:28, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Tito, GF please. I did not try to refactor your talk page comments, I thought adding it into the box will be more appropriate instead of again adding in a separate line so as to make the reply correct by policy standpoints. Soham 17:20, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
For the unacquainted, here are the ones I submitted— "along with using WP:COMMONSENSE when necessary" and "Not to mention, WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS and Wikipedia:Advocacy", the repetitions in the table have been duly striked out. Soham 17:20, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! Like I said, I know that you're a good person to ask to wade into this. I was also asking for a third opinion since I was worried that I wasn't handling it as well as I could have been. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:10, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
- And wow- thanks for the link you sent me! I'll definitely put that to good use in the future! Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:10, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
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Result of the Nitishkumartn SPI
Please see: User talk:Anna Frodesiak#Result of the Nitishkumartn SPI
Thank you kindly, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:10, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
- Namaste Is there a) any list of affected articles and b) analysis of pattern of their edits?
- Might be related: IND TV Please note, there are at least two more areas, Indian Hindi television serials, Bengali commercial films where I feel similar problematic edits are going on.
- Might be one of the last options: Last year we started a centralized discussion, 2013 Ind BD. That went nowhere, but got some attention at least. So one of the last options might be (Paid editing concerns in WikiProject India-related articles).
If it is decided to handle only this Nitishkumartn SPI for now, then having a detailed study of affected articles and editing pattern might be helpful to decide next step. Tito☸Dutta 02:43, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Namàste, dearest Tito, how are you?
I made this short, new page, and I ask 5 minutes of your time to correct my mistakes. She's wonderful, but there isn't yet a picture of her charged on Commons.
Thanks a lot for your precious help.
Rei Momo (talk) 00:48, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
- Please improve ref 3, I mean add some details. You may add some content from it:Marianna Madia Tito☸Dutta 02:04, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
- Namàste Tito, thanks a lot for you precious help. I put something more about her biography: how is called the father of grandfather? Rei Momo (talk) 12:15, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
- That is "great grandfather".
and deputy in 50s. . .
— which 50s? Tito☸Dutta 13:27, 23 February 2014 (UTC) - I have made some more changes.
She will be mother in March 2014
— that is an uncommon information, I have not checked source, make sure it is directly cited by reliable ref, as it is a WP:BLP. Tito☸Dutta 13:31, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thank youuuuuuuuuu!!! About her son, I wrote because she arrived to swear at Presidential Palace, she was pregnant, and someone sayd: "Best wishes for you, when the baby will bear?"... she answereb "... next Mach...". That's all. Thanks again for your precious help! Rei Momo (talk) 20:04, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you again for your precious help! Rei Momo (talk) 23:18, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
- That is "great grandfather".
Hello - This is in regards with a stub that i have created on Vipin Vijay
I am a novice at this as apparent . I attempted at making a profile of Vipin Vijay . The content is in direct consultation with Vipin and bears inserts from various articles on web .
Please could you help me understand how I could abide by the standard norms and the corrections to be incorporated in relation to the page?
Thanks you in advance ,
Srijith — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srijith Nher (talk • contribs) 08:13, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Paani
See User:Titodutta/workspace/Paani. Schmidt, Michael Q. 15:08, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
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Do you have any relation to Vipin Vijay ?
Tio, I Work with Tesco , Bangalore and am a project manager by profession. I am a friend of vipn and a student of parallel cinema ( As a personal interest) . I have been researching Vipin's works for long and thought his works are worth a mention and hence the article. Do let me know if you have any further queries please.
Regards, Srijith Nherkkol — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srijith Nher (talk • contribs) 08:16, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- You need to see WP:COI. Tito☸Dutta 08:26, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Teahouse Questions
Hi Tito, I would like you to share some thoughts over here. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:33, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Article talk page could be better place. Anyway, I don't know what they meant by "reflective reviews". But I don't think that makes complete sense. And when you suddenly hump from "Contemporary reviews", 1979 or 1980 to recent reviews "making a bridge" might be helpful for many readers, eg. "This film has been a subject of discussion and scholarly studies for many years (or "decades" if applicable). Very recently in 2002. . ." Tito☸Dutta 06:00, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Are u telling me that merging the two reviews sections ("contemporaneous" and "reflective") is the best thing to do at the moment? Or is there a better name for "reflective reviews" section? Kailash29792 (talk) 08:39, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- I agree with Luke. If you want you may go ahead and rename the section. Tito☸Dutta 12:29, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Are u telling me that merging the two reviews sections ("contemporaneous" and "reflective") is the best thing to do at the moment? Or is there a better name for "reflective reviews" section? Kailash29792 (talk) 08:39, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you
Tito but I am an IP editor. I think an IP welcome would be more appropritae. Anyways, thanks again. 117.194.194.194 (talk) 15:32, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
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Novel idea, definitely will participate. —Soham (talk) 16:06, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- bolte bhule gechlum, ekhnono "confidential" stage. Tito☸Dutta 16:07, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- ‘Oh’... —Soham (talk) 17:24, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- Travelling now, with limited access. Will do later.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:26, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- bojho. Soham wrote "Yes", and Dwaipayanc picked up the meaning and replied to it. Tito☸Dutta 17:28, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- Tito, sadhe ki Dwai DC te boshe Dollar chapche? Kichchu to ache or talent. —Soham (talk) 17:53, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- Travelling now, with limited access. Will do later.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:26, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
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Hi! I'll check my Wikimedia e-mail. No, I don't have the ability to go to London in 2014. Thanks for checking! WhisperToMe (talk) 18:00, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
- I checked my Wikipedia e-mail and I haven't seen a message yet about it. As of now I don't have the plans, money or the time to go to London. If something happens that lets me go to London I'll let you know :) WhisperToMe (talk) 15:35, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi again Tito!
I'm a little bit out of my depth here. Could you possibly have a little look at this article? I'm sure it needs a change of name, but I'm not sure what it should be WP:MOVE-d to.
Pete aka --Shirt58 (talk) 11:52, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
ps: I'm still wondering why Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Titodutta is a red-link.
- {Reply to|Shirt 58}}, Delhi's Chief Minister resigned last month, there are chances of an election, but it is WP:MIRROR article. --Tito☸Dutta 23:15, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
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