User talk:ThePlane11

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Welcome to Wikipedia, ThePlane11! Thank you for your contributions. I am Doug Weller and I have been editing Wikipedia for some time, so if you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. You can also check out Wikipedia:Questions or type {{help me}} at the bottom of this page. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Again, this does not mean you have edited badly, just that you are new and editing in a contentious area. Doug Weller talk 18:52, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

September 2017

Hello, I'm Sundayclose. I noticed that you recently removed content from Gambino crime family without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Sundayclose (talk) 00:36, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Situation has been explained. Several of the crime family pages are not fresh / updated. ThePlane11 (talk) 00:42, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The appropriate place to explain such a removal is in the edit summary. And if you have updated information, it requires a source to confirm it. Please read WP:V and WP:CITE. 00:47, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

So could you please remove where it says "current administration" and "boss" down as Frank Cali. The information, like I said, has not been updated. I have used the edit summary to explain also. ThePlane11 (talk) 00:49, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Did you take a few minutes to read the links I provided above? The current information is sourced. If you want to change it, please provide a reliable source to verify it. The cornerstone of Wikipedia is reliable sourcing, not an editor's personal knowledge. Sundayclose (talk) 00:52, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Are you stupid because you're acting like it? The Frank Cali capo section has not been updated since around 2009 / 2010. An other editor who found 2 reliable sources in 2015 has Frank Cali under "boss" and the current administration sections. It also says under "underboss" that he served from 2012 to 2015 - this is all on Wikipedia. I'm trying to remove the non updated contradictory information. So how do I source it when I'm attempting to remove all of the information I'm not quite understanding? You cannot take my word for it and other editor sources are not good enough for you... ThePlane11 (talk) 00:56, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, read WP:V. If it's "all on Wikipedia" then it should be a simple matter to find the sources on Wikipedia to confirm it. As for your "stupid" comment:

Hello, I'm Sundayclose. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Sundayclose (talk) 01:00, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions at Gambino crime family. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is known as "edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to be blocked from editing Wikipedia. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a block. Thank you. Sundayclose (talk) 01:03, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You appear to be obstructing me and annoying me. Please do not abuse your authority when you are in the wrong. You are trying to keep the contradictory information remaining and cannot be bothered to look for yourself. The user is asking me to provide a source where the information should be deleted? ThePlane11 (talk) 01:08, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Identity Evropa

Please don't repeat the edit Grayfell reverted. See this RfC and if you look at the history of the article you'll see that material has been rev/deleted, which I can tell you was similar material. I've rev/deleted it from this article. Thanks Doug Weller talk 15:39, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've now seen the article talk page and see that you apparently now understand the situation. Please note that DS alerts such as the ones I've given you are informational in the main. The caveat is because they must be given to editors before any action under discrationary sanctions, as opposed to ordinary Admin action, can be taken. I don't see any reason to consider any action towards you on the basis of your edit which you made before knowing about the RfC. Doug Weller talk 15:45, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Doug Weller talk 15:41, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Buffalo crime family

Hey there. If you're interested, could you take a look at Buffalo crime family, there's a user who keeps adding sources to blogs and possibly unreliable sites, especially in the current events of the family. Thanks. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 05:49, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I don’t know how accurate some of the info is and a few editors in the recent past have reverted but he keeps adding things back. I know you’re interested in the American Mafia so if you’re interested just take a quick look. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 13:32, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I mean Sitush is doing a pretty good job, but at this point this is kind of out of my realm of knowledge, so I’m just being a spectator right now. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 13:51, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Frank Valenti

Hi, do you have documents and references with Frank Valenti as boss of the Pittsburg crime family with references stating he took over the crime family from LaRocca. All references I have found stated Valenti left Pittsburg and became boss of the Rochester crime family with support of LaRocca.

https://books.google.com/books?id=GhfExAeLSBAC&pg=PA79&dq=Frank+Valenti&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiltZOFjM_ZAhWMY98KHY0wCTwQ6AEIKTAA#v=onepage&q=Frank%20Valenti&f=false pp.78 The Complete Idiot's Guide to the Mafia By Jerry Capeci

The Mafia Made Easy: The Anatomy and Culture of La Cosa Nostra by Peter J. Devico pp.190

Thanks --Vic49 (talk) 02:26, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Galanti article

Hi - Just to let you know, I was not the editor who removed the infobox from the Galante article. If you look at the version history, you will see that it was a one-time editor who came in just before me that same morning. I have contributed to this article over the years and would never vandalize it or any other article. Thanks for fixing it! Rogermx (talk) 15:08, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Doug Weller talk 16:36, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

September 2018

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Nice to see that you've only warned me. ThePlane11 (talk) 05:28, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Please support all your future edits with citations, or they are liable to be reverted.

Please put in the effort to support edits like this with citations. Other readers need to be able to Verify what you've added. You should expect other editors to remove your work if you fail to do this, which would be a shame, as I'm sure they're made in good faith. Please read WP:REFBEGIN to learn how to do add citations. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:34, 7 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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