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Your use of rollback

Per WP:ROLLBACKUSE this use was inappropriate, please exercise more care in the future. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:19F4:3AE2:C47C:384D (talk) 19:55, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

I can no longer read the diff as the page has been deleted, but I'm assuming you're the person who added the <noinclude>...</noinclude> tags? If so, I apologize, as I seem to have mistaken you for someone else — editing under a similar IPv6 address — who was violating their block. I appreciate you taking the time to leave me a message, and I'll be more careful when reading IP addresses in the future! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 00:23, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
I understand, sounds good, and yes that was the diff I was referring to. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:E41E:B141:7B5:2EF0 (talk) 01:42, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Beauty and the Beast (Mark Murphy album)

Hi@TechnoSquirrel69, I added a clarification to the article, as requested. The cited source assigns ratings with "bones" instead of "stars", from "woof to 5 bones". Thanks for the edits! CoralRad (talk) 00:24, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that, CoralRad! By the way, I noticed a higher-quality version of the cover art for this album exists at its Amazon listing — consider uploading that one instead. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 00:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
@TechnoSquirrel69 I changed the cover per your suggestion. I am relatively new at this, should I remove the "clarification needed" from the article? CoralRad (talk) 00:38, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
Yep; in general, any editor can remove cleanup tags if they feel the issues in question have been adequately addressed. If you think so, go ahead! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 00:42, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Clorinda

Sorry, I didn't get any kind of notification. Something just appeared on my talk page and I was reminded I hadn't checked on the relisted discussion.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:27, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

No issues! I think it was my mistake to try and ping you through XFDcloser — I'm not sure if pings go through those messages. In any case, the discussion seems to have closed in your favor. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 18:52, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. And to clarify, I got a notification about something entirely unrelated.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 22:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 May newsletter

The second round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 April. This round was particularly competitive: each of the 32 contestants who advanced to Round 3 scored at least 141 points. This is the highest number of points required to advance to Round 3 since 2014.

The following scorers in Round 2 all scored more than 500 points:

The full scores for Round 2 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 18 featured articles, 22 featured lists, and 186 good articles, 76 in the news credits and at least 200 did you know credits. They have conducted 165 featured article reviews, as well as 399 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 21 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed during Round 3, which starts on 1 May at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

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Appreciating your comments

Hello @TechoSquirrel69 Senior editors have an eagle's eye that can capture such details as mentioned. As a junior editor, myself, I always take them heartedly and rework to address the issues. I believe that the content of the article is of public interest (the well being of Swahili language), so I shall try to keep on pushing it. Thanks. Dee Soulza (talk) 20:58, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

@Dee Soulza: Thanks for your message. While I admire your desire to uphold what I assume is your linguistic heritage by writing about the Swahili language, please remember not to let that translate into a biased writing style. As I mentioned in my review, we need to try our best to remain neutral on the subjects we're writing about — our goal is not to convince the reader of anything or highlight any one perspective. The encyclopedia simply summarizes the information provided in reliable sources without adding any interpretations. I wish you luck with writing your draft article. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 21:44, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Thanks. Dee Soulza (talk) 07:51, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Last name

Hatting sockpuppetry
—TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 00:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, didn't mean to edit an archive of a talk page. Probably could ask you for help. There is a good bit of misunderstanding on here about how to talk about family members with the same last names. It's generally established that you use first names to distinguish which person is being referenced. You can see FM Sky doesn't think so. Deliciously (talk) 02:56, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@Deliciously: No problem! I'm not particularly interested in joining your original discussion, but I'm sure FMSky can weigh in now that the message is on the right page. Also, you don't need to post replies to my talk page when the original comment is on yours, you can simply ping me in the thread (like I'm doing here) and I'll be notified of your message; this helps keeps discussions organized and in the same place. Let me know if you have any questions. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 03:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2024).

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Dark Deco

Hello, may you reopen the discussion for Dark Deco, so I don't have to re-nominate it? Even with no comments, no quorum is not a "do nothing" close, and should have either been acted upon as I suggested (retargeted to a Batman related topic such as Batman: The Animated Series, one of the only relevant uses of this term on Wikipedia), or remained open to garner further comments, per WP:NOQUORUM (or Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Common outcomes#No quorum for RfD specific). I would prefer not to unilaterally retarget in the meantime as there are multiple options, but the status quo is not one and has no support. Utopes (talk / cont) 20:37, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey Utopes! Thanks for reminding me about the silent consensus principle, which slipped my mind when I closed this discussion. I don't have time to do so at the moment, but I will overturn my closure and re-close the discussion later this evening or tomorrow. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 17:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
@Utopes: Thanks for your patience; done. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 16:12, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Sea of Voices

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Sea of Voices you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Skyshifter -- Skyshifter (talk) 17:03, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Sea of Voices

The article Sea of Voices you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Sea of Voices and Talk:Sea of Voices/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Skyshifter -- Skyshifter (talk) 18:41, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Sea of Voices

The article Sea of Voices you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Sea of Voices for comments about the article, and Talk:Sea of Voices/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Skyshifter -- Skyshifter (talk) 10:52, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Promotion of Worlds (Porter Robinson album)

Congratulations, TechnoSquirrel69! The article you nominated, Worlds (Porter Robinson album), has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Gog the Mild (talk) via FACBot (talk) 19:45, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Dani Cavallaro for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Dani Cavallaro is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dani Cavallaro until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Harizotoh9 (talk) 20:11, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Note

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohd_Amri_Yahyah

https://cms.fam.org.my/v1/teamdetail/czo4OiJjbXMucGFmYyI7/T2024TM3

(team player 17, can the page be updated since sources prove he is not retired...) 93.138.236.53 (talk) 18:50, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Hey there, and thanks for contributing to this article! My primary concern with your changes was that this person had announced their retirement relatively recently, so it's questionable to use a database to prove that they're still active as it might not have been updated. You will need to provide a reliable source dated after the retirement announcements to confirm that the subject is still playing. Let me know if you have any questions! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:15, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
it is website of club founded this year, so way to implement correct data should be found. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.140.139.165 (talk • contribs) 00:14, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
That clarifies the date then, but I'm unsure I would consider that website a reliable source regardless. As I mentioned in my edit summary earlier, you might be better served by waiting for a response on the article's talk page and discussing the situation with an editor more knowledgeable about this general topic area — I'm certainly not the most prolific editor of articles on sportspeople. Also, do you operate the Cenderabird account? If you do, I would highly recommend logging in when you edit to prevent possible concerns of sockpuppetry. Let me know if I can help in any other way. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 00:31, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
im with ip only. that is malay fa website, i dont know what next... if you are prolific with reverting sources, good luck. once it will get changed, very strange situation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.140.139.165 (talk • contribs) 15:21, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying the detail about the account. I'm not quite sure I understand the rest of your message, but another editor may be able to help you out on the talk page. You might also consider asking your question at the Teahouse, where experienced editors will be able to help you out. Also, in accordance with the talk page guideline, please make sure you're signing and indenting your messages. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 17:35, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2024).

Administrator changes

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Bureaucrat changes

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Oversight changes

removed Dreamy Jazz

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title. T43351

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May 2024 NPP backlog drive – Streak award

Worm Gear Award

This award is given in recognition to TechnoSquirrel69 for accumulating at least 7 points during each week of the May 2024 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions played a part in the 14,452 reviews completed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! Hey man im josh (talk) 19:19, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

May 2024 NPP backlog drive – Points award

The Reviewer Barnstar
This award is given in recognition to TechnoSquirrel69 for accumulating at least 50 points during the May 2024 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions helped play a part in the 14,452 reviews completed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! Hey man im josh (talk) 18:56, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Appreciate it, Josh! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 19:28, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

How do I delete my draft?

Hey, I’m back, I hope you are doing well. I have a minor technical question: I accidentally created a normale draft instead of going through the article wizard like I wanted to. This may be a dumb question, but how do I delete it (on mobile)? FortunateSons (talk) 18:42, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello again, FortunateSons, and thanks for the well wishes — I'm hanging in there! I want to note that there's nothing wrong with creating a draft directly without using the Article Wizard, and it shouldn't impact your writing process very much. If you still want to, you can request deletion under CSD G7 by placing {{db-author}} at the top, provided you are the only editor who's made substantive contributions to the page. Let me know if you have any other questions. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 19:36, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
I’m glad you’re doing ok. Yeah, that was what I was looking for.
I’m know that there isn’t anything wrong with doing it directly, but I still prefer working with the added structure that the AW provides, particularly as this is only my second BLP.
Thank you very much for the help :) FortunateSons (talk) 19:47, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Please

Next time can you provide a link to the WP:RSN discussion when removing content? I was utterly confused by your broad edit summary that x source was unreliable. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:17, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Will do, Knowledgekid87! I had initially been pasting a boilerplate edit summary containing a link to the discussion, but I must have switched to the wrong one somewhere along the way. Thanks for the heads-up./ —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 21:21, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Request to Review Draft

Hey there

I changed my article Draft:Sukesha to wikitext. I also added some citations. Would love for you to review it and share your thoughts to help me improve. Yatharthsrivastava (talk) 11:00, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Hey Yatharthsrivastava, thanks for making those changes. I don't typically conduct AfC reviews on request, and I'm also not familiar with the topic area of Indian mythology, so it might be better to leave it for another reviewer. Let me know if you have any other questions. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 15:45, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Wikipedia new page patrol backlog drives

A tag has been placed on Category:Wikipedia new page patrol backlog drives indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 19:25, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Exchange review?

Hi there. I've just noticed you nominated Mai Fujisawa. I happened to have recently nominated Musashi Miyamoto (Vagabond). It's a small article too so I wonder if you are interested in exchanging reviews if you don't have problem. I prose skills aren't pretty good so Musashi was copyedited before nominating it. Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 21:53, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Hey Tintor2! Sure, I'd be happy to review your nomination. I can't do so immediately, as I have some off-wiki busywork to get to this week, but I should have more time to conduct the review towards the end of next week. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:05, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
@Tintor2: I've opened the review for your nominee. However, I've decided to retract my nomination of Mai Fujisawa due to issues I have with the sourcing which I don't believe can be solved in a way that gels well with the GA criteria to my satisfaction. I'll be around with comments in the next couple of days! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 23:32, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Pirkei De-Rabbi Eliezer

Moved to Talk:Pirkei De-Rabbi Eliezer § Pirkei De-Rabbi Eliezer

Promotion of List of accolades received by The Boy and the Heron

Congratulations, TechnoSquirrel69! The list you nominated, List of accolades received by The Boy and the Heron, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Giants2008 (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
story · music · places
Welcome to WP:QAI, and congratulations to the quality work I see on this page alone! List your articles for review on top of the project talk, - and review ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:15, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
I appreciate the welcome, Gerda — thanks for stopping by! I'll be a little busy for the next week or so, but I'll take a look at the QAI talk page when I can. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 14:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
New pics of food and flowers come with the story of Noye's Fludde (premiered on 18 June), written by Brian Boulton. I nominated Éric Tappy because he died, and it needs support today! I nominated another women for GA in the Women in Green June run, - review welcome, and more noms planned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the update, Gerda; I also have an article planned for the drive but am finding it more difficult than I thought to track down reviews in obscure science fiction magazines! I would be more careful about how you attract people to your ITN nomination — directly calling for support in this way could be interpreted as canvassing. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 14:16, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Thank you, also for improving article quality in June! - Today we have a centenarian story (documentation about it by Percy Adlon) and an article that had two sentences yesterday and was up for deletion, and needs a few more citations. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:53, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

3rd coord for the DCWC

hey, we've got less than 2 weeks until the developing countries contest starts, and no one's offered to be a third coordinator - at one point you said you'd be willing if no one else volunteered. given that both @Ixtal & i will each be offline temporarily at different points during the contest, would you like to join us officially? ... sawyer * he/they * talk 20:35, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

As long as Ixtal is on board, I'd love to! It's been great getting to help set up the contest, and continuing in that shepherding role once the real work begins sounds right up my alley. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 00:58, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
I'm on board. — ♠ Ixtal ( T / C ) ⁂ Sign up for the 2024 DCWC! — Non nobis solum ♠ 06:20, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Awesome, then let's get started. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 14:49, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Sea of Voices

On 21 June 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sea of Voices, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that "Sea of Voices" was well-received by Porter Robinson's fans even though it was a fundamental change from his prior musical style? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sea of Voices. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Sea of Voices), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Draft reviewed

Hi TechnoSquirrel69,

I wanted to say thank you for taking the time and reviewing my draft about a scientist 2 days ago. I reached out to couple of people from wiki community to give me advice on what can be changed in order to improve the article and I made many amends since then based on the recommendations. Would you mind to please check the draft Draft:Mark Kotter again and let me know your thoughts? I'm still learning a lot about editing Wikipedia and I found this community is incredible and so helpful.

Best wishes,

Damjana Damjana12 (talk) 20:48, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Hey Damjana12, thanks for making those changes on the draft and I'm glad to know you're feeling comfortable in the community! I don't typically review AfC submissions on request, and almost never for drafts I've already reviewed in the past. In the interest of keeping the process impartial, I think it would be best to let another reviewer take this one; your draft is already in the queue and will be picked up in time. Let me know if you have any other questions! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 01:45, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Thank you so much for your response and for understanding my situation. I appreciate the clarification on the review process and completely understand the need for impartiality. It's great to know that my draft is already in the queue and will be reviewed in due course.
I don't have any further questions at the moment, but I’ll be sure to reach out if something comes up. Thanks again for your guidance and support!
Best regards, Damjana Damjana12 (talk) 21:03, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

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Much appreciated, Elli! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 23:24, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 July newsletter

The third round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 June. As with Round 2, this round was competitive: each of the 16 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 256 points.

The following editors all scored more than 400 points in Round 3:

The full scores for round 3 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 28 featured articles, 38 featured lists, 240 good articles, 92 in the news credits, and at least 285 did you know credits. They have conducted 279 featured article reviews, as well as 492 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 22 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 June but before the start of Round 4 can be claimed during Round 4, which starts on 1 July at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether for a good article, featured content, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2024

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Editor of the Week

Editor of the Week
Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week in recognition of your great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)

User:Buster7 submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

In early February of 2024 TechnoSquirrel69 made a small repair to the Editor of the Week nomination page. Curious, I chased it down and discovered an editor that is a prime example of doing what it takes to retain new editors. He has almost 20000 edits with a solid 40% in mainspace. His outgoing nature and willingness to take the time to show new editors "the road less travelled", through his kindness and communication, deserve attention and recognition. His talk page archives contain interactions with new editors that are examples we can all learn from. Seconded by Sohom and Ixtal.

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In early February 2024 Editor TechnoSquirrel69 made a small repair to the Editor of the Week nomination page. Curious, I chased it down and discovered an editor that is a prime example of doing what it takes to retain new editors. He has almost 20000 edits with a solid 40% in mainspace. His outgoing nature and willingness to take the time to show new editors "the road less travelled", through his kindness and communication, deserve attention and recognition. His talk page archives contain interactions with new editors that are examples we can all learn from.
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Thanks again for your efforts! Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 10:35, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

@Buster7, Ixtal, and Sohom Datta: Can't thank y'all enough! It's a genuine honor to be recognized for any of my work here, and I hope to continue doing as much of it as I can for the foreseeable future. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 01:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

July thanks

story · music · places

Thank you for improving article quality in July! Congratulations to Editor of the week! - Today's story is about a photographer who took iconic pictures, especially View from Williamsburg, Brooklyn, on Manhattan, 9/11, yesterday's was a great mezzo, and on Thursday we watched a sublime ballerina. If that's not enough my talk offers chamber music from two amazing concerts. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:23, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Much appreciated, Gerda! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 18:52, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Australia national soccer team

Polite request to solve the 21 links to disambiguation pages that is caused by your actions. The Banner talk 16:07, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for your message, The Banner. I wouldn't necessarily say the links were "caused" by my opening of the RfD, but I can take care of them anyways. I'll get around to it possibly later today, probably tomorrow. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 16:39, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
 Already done, for the record; all the remaining links to the Australia national soccer team disambiguation page are outside of mainspace. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 02:02, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Re: recent AFD

One of these "Yes, Virginia" moments where you learn a real band under this name exists. Wonder where else you got this username from? --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 00:19, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

@Slgrandson: Glad you also find that similarity entertaining! I can confirm that my username was created completely independently from the band, and is instead a remnant from many years before I registered my Wikimedia account: my middle-school-age self's sense of humor, which you might be able to infer from the choice of numeral at the end... Since you asked, the squirrel comes from a lighthearted nickname I was given by some friends, as I had quite protruding front teeth before my braces were put in; the techno was given to me by some elder members of my family for my allegedly outstanding proficiency with computers (which typically meant I was able to navigate through the settings to enable the sound). :) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 02:30, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
With the "protruding front teeth" part in mind, I might look into a gift-art portrait of your likeness; knowing WP's protocol, best if we negotiate further through e-mail, social, Miraheze, or otherwise. (I sure need a portfolio pilot by this point...) --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 03:38, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
Sure! Feel free to email me or direct-message me on Discord. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 14:28, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
Except I have no (plans for) Discord; got Google Chat or Reddit instead? --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 03:24, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
I'd almost forgotten I had an account and had to go track down my password, but I've messaged you on Reddit. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 20:47, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Frutiger Aero

On 31 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Frutiger Aero, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that despite being invented in the 2000s, Frutiger Aero was not named until 2017? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Frutiger Aero. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Frutiger Aero), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:04, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Seattle Wiknic 11 August 2024

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Thanks for all you do to acknowledge others at the Editor of the Week Awards

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Thanks for the thanks, again, Buster7! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 16:20, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Closure of discussion on Turkish baths disambiguation

Hi, thank you for your interest in this discussion, even though I disagree strongly with your closure. I had thought, as an editing newbie, of instantly reverting it. However, after more mature consideration, it seemed that it might be more productive (and certainly more polite) to discuss the matter with you first.

My initial reaction was that closure was inappropriate because I could see not see that any consensus (by any definition of the term) had been reached. And although 'consensus' has specifically been distinguished from 'majority', it is interesting to note that four contributors approved the idea of change, while only three preferred to keep.

Much more important, however, is that the use of the term 'primary topic' in the discussion by the "keepers", and by yourself in your closure, seems to indicate that a different problem was being discussed from that discussed by those calling for a change. Could I explain what I mean because, to me, this is not a contest, but an attempt to ensure that seekers of information on Wikipedia, especially those who are not experienced editors or administrators, find what they are seeking in the easiest, quickest way. There are actually two discrete issues here, which seem to have been confused:

1. The name of a subject has several different names or several different forms.

aubergine, eggplant

hammam, حمّام, ḥammām, hamam, hmam)

poisonous substance, poison

In these examples, each term is either a synonymous variant name, or a different grammatical form of a name of the same subject. We therefore choose the one most frequently used (where, perhaps, the number of searches made is a useful guide) and redirect the searcher from unused terms to the preferred term. This saves the searcher time by avoiding an intermediate ‘See:’ reference.

2. Two completely different subjects are members of a group, or have (historically or currently) been referred to by the same name, in addition to their currently preferred name.

strawberry, loganberry (different types of berry)

Hammam, Victorian Turkish baths (different types of hot-air baths)

In these examples, the terms are not synonyms, but individually separate and distinct subjects, so comparing the number of searches made for each is entirely irrelevant. Instead, we need to disambiguate them (ie, identify which meaning of a term is used in context) by leading searchers immediately to a page (such as Turkish Bath (disambiguation)—but preferably without the here unnecessary word ‘disambiguation’—which page perfectly defines the alternatives available, and enables them to reach the page they want.

As Wikipedia says in its guidance, disambiguation is for “Ensuring that a reader who searches for a topic using a particular term can get to the information on that topic quickly and easily, whichever of the possible topics it might be." (My emphasis, though I would prefer the word 'subject' to 'topic'.)

When, instead of giving searchers an opportunity to find which of the alternative subjects they want, we redirect one of the subjects to a completely different subject, we are at the same time actively redirecting them away from the other subject. This is not a Wikipedia favoured neutral approach; it can even be seen as the beginning of a form of censorship.

Referring to the case specifically being discussed here, at present, all searches for “Turkish baths” are automatically redirected to Hammam. If this situation continues unchanged, then for Wikipedia to be consistent, searches for the film Steam: The Turkish Bath, and the painting The Turkish Bath by Ingres (and subjects like Trollope’s short story which does not yet have a Wikipedia article) should also be automatically redirected to Hammam. But we don’t do this because although, like Victorian Turkish baths, they may have been inspired by the hammam, they are different subjects.

I must apologise for the length of this posting, but I do hope that it will encourage you to revert your closure so that I may make a final attempt to explain the difference between these two issues and ask again for the redirect to be changed to a DAB. Best wishes, Ishpoloni (talk) 08:36, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 23 § Turkish bath, mostly for my reference later. Ishpoloni, thanks for your message; I'm currently traveling and can't get back to you at the moment. I'll get a response to you sometime tomorrow. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 19:17, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
"::" Thank you so much for letting me know. There's no instant hurry. Ishpoloni (talk) 00:22, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
@Ishpoloni: I appreciate you for starting a conversation here before taking other action. I want to start by clarifying my role as the closer of the discussion. Closers try not to bring their personal opinions into their decisions when considering discussions; if I had an opinion to share, I would probably just participate in the discussion myself. As such, there isn't much use trying to convince me of your viewpoint here, as whether or not my opinion changes, my decision will remain the same as it pertains strictly to the weighing of arguments as they relate to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, presented by other editors within the discussion. I also want to note that deletion discussions are not a vote, so even though there were more editors who !voted to retarget, two of those were simple "per nominator" comments which did not substantially contribute to the discussion. Getting to the substance of your message, you are correct in saying that the two issues you have identified are quite distinct and require different solutions, but I have no reason to believe any of the other editors confused one for the other here. We're clearly within the scope of the second point you identified: the term Turkish bath is ambiguous, and could refer to one of several subjects. However, a disambiguation page is not always the best solution in these situations; in fact, reading a bit further from the section of the disambiguation guideline you quoted reveals a note about exactly that, which is expanded later in the page. Taking from the relevant section: "Although a word, name, or phrase may refer to more than one topic, sometimes one of these topics can be identified as the term's primary topic. This is the topic to which the term should lead ..." Discussion participants presented solid arguments about the amount and nature of traffic that the relevant articles receive as well as how the term is used in scholarship which, to me, indicated firm consensus to regard hammams as the primary topic. I thus made the decision to keep Turkish bath pointed at that article, serving as a "primary redirect". If you feel that my summary of the discussion was not accurate, feel free to open a deletion review, which will allow the community to reconsider my decision and overturn it if necessary. If you have any other questions about this, please let me know; I'm happy to help! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 17:22, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
"::""::" @TechnoSquirrel69: Thank you for taking the time to reply so fully to my request, though I am, of course, extremely disappointed. In fact I was not trying to convince you of my view, but trying to provide a logical reason for you to reopen the discussion, and I did mention my understanding of the difference between consensus and majority.
Perhaps rather facetiously I am tempted to ask why we do not redirect 'Loganberry' to 'Apple' since, although they are both different fruits, more people look up apple than loganberry so it must be the "primary topic". 'Topic', as opposed to 'subject', is a word used confusedly throughout Wikipedia's guidance notes, and especially in the section you refer to.
I will take some time to decide what to do about this, though I suspect I will just bow out. When one reaches one's ninetieth year one tends to assess very carefully how one spends one's remaining time. I have spent three months of this period writing the first three-quarters of an article, after waiting two years in case anyone else wrote it; at the moment I cannot see the point of spending any more time on completing an article which prople are actively being turned away from reading, in favour of an article on a totally different subject.
I don't, by the way, take this personally but—as a retired librarian—as a blow to those seeking the simplest access from those who seem to prefer an arcane mystical code of rules.
I must end, however, with genuinely grateful thanks to you for having spent your own time on the issue. Best wishes. Ishpoloni (talk) 11:55, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
"::""::" @TechnoSquirrel69: I thought I'd let you know that after considering the matter carefully for a while, I've decided to call it a day. In case anyone else wishes to finish the article I've added my intended headings for other sections to the Victorian Turkish baths talk page which may be of some help although there are, of course, other aspects which could also be covered. Thanking you again for your interest. Ishpoloni (talk) 11:47, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
@Ishpoloni: I appreciate you for your work on that article. I hope this episode has not overly discouranged you from the project, and that you come back to work on it sometime later. I forgot to mention it earlier, but if you feel that this discussion could do with a round 2, you can reminate the Turkish bath at RfD after some time has passed (at least a few months). Besides, there are other ways to being reader attention towards your work. For example, if the article meets the criteria, you may nominate it to be a good article, which would make it eligible to be featured in the Did you know? section on the Main Page. I wish you the best whichever you decide; let me know if I can be of any other help! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 15:39, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2024).

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