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Sm8900 (talk) 18:04, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

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Please add a source to the population statistics you are adding to various villages. Without a source: that info can be removed by anyone, anytime, cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:12, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Hey, i use this source:

https://lub-anan.com/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AD%D8%A7%D9%81%D8%B8%D8%A7%D8%AA/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D8%A8%D8%B7%D9%8A%D8%A9/%D8%A8%D9%86%D8%AA-%D8%AC%D8%A8%D9%8A%D9%84/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B0%D8%A7%D9%87%D8%A8/

i do not know how to share the link corecctly as you can see it looks weird.

Greetings:) Syrian91 (talk) 22:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Dear Syrian91; of course you can use that link! -just say lub-anan.com, or something like that. Also, what is the lub-anan.com site? Who publishes it? If you have that info, that should also be included, cheers Huldra (talk) 20:13, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

I have archived it for you: https://archive.is/xHpUp perhaps better to use that link, as in my experience: web-sites with election-results tend to disappear, Huldra (talk) 20:21, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

PLease, why ere you still adding stuff, without reference? Huldra (talk) 20:32, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

I will put them now. Give me time:) Syrian91 (talk) 20:56, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

You are putting yourself at the mercy of the good-will of other editors. I am in a bit of despair, here, as you are doing valuable work, but it could be for nothing, as any editor could remove unsourced information anytime. Huldra (talk) 21:01, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Hey i have put all the sources:) Syrian91 (talk) 16:11, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Name changes of Lebanese towns

Hi, please open page discussions or give reasons for why you are changing the spellings. Most of the spellings follow Lebanese pronunciations, not Standard Arabic pronunciations. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 19:31, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I was also going to ask what standard you use for moving village -articles? I have started some of these articles, and I always used the name that the "Localiban" used. What standard do you use? cheers, Huldra (talk) 20:49, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Based on how most sources call the village. If I search for محرونة, Mahrouna or Mahrounah on Google for example, I only see the spelling as "Mahrouna" and not "Mahrounah". See [1], [2], [3] for example. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 07:36, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello Syrian91. Thank you for your contributions to the topic area and I hope you continue improving the space. Please, however, take note of the objections and concerns raised here and stop renaming Lebanese village articles to names that better fit the Modern Standard Arabic (MSA) transliteration, as you did with Rashidieh → Ar-Rashidiyah refugee camp, Chehabiyeh → Ash-Shihabiyah, etc. We go by WP:Commonname when deciding which titles to use.

@Nehme1499:@Huldra: That said, I think there badly needs to be a discussion at MoS Arabic with notices to the relevant wikiprojects (Lebanon, Syria, Palestine, Jordan, etc) to bring order to this situation and have a set of standardized transliteration rules for each country based on spelling prevalence. Commonname will usually trump other considerations but for the many cases where there is no clear common name we should stick with a prevailing spelling standard. --Al Ameer (talk) 17:15, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

I would also like to thank Syrian91 for their contributions about the registered voters numbers. As for the discussion st MoS Arabic: I'll leave that to people who actually speaks/ read/write Arabic (I don't), Huldra (talk) 21:25, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you Huldra Syrian91 (talk) 22:33, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Hey Al Ameer, a lot of Lebanese villages were translated in the French pronunciation for example: ch=sh(shin) or ne=n(noun). For example Chehabiya their is a ش(sh) not ch. Or Yarin ن their is no Yarine

I use 9 different Maps and i compare them to the arabic letters and news/documentary Videos on yt and other media to get the real pronunciation.

Moreover Most of the villages are on Facebook. Syrian91 (talk) 22:49, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

I know but it us wrong نة=nah نا=na Syrian91 (talk) 22:51, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes the English transliterations of Lebanese places (and people) is highly influenced by French and also the colloquial Lebanese pronunciations, but that appears to be the common usage so we need to go by that, regardless if it's the proper or correct Arabic transliteration. Similar situation with Algerian, Moroccan and Tunisian places/people. Youtube, Facebook and the various maps all use different and incosistent spellings for the same places and more importantly are not considered reliable sources so we cannot base anything we do here on those sources. --Al Ameer (talk) 00:11, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Sure, thanks for the info:) Syrian91 (talk) 07:56, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Large amount of geostubs based only on voter record website

Hello Syrian91. Thanks for your work. You appear to creating a large amount of geostub articles based only on a voter registration website. And the only content is a fact regarding registered voters. Two issues with this are that mass creation is discouraged. The other is establishing wp:notability. With wp:GNG clearly not being established, the criteria would be that of the NGeo Special Notability guideline. You really need more than just that one source of that type to meet the SNG criteria. Why not build less of a huge quantity of such articles and instead find at least find and put in sourcing to meet the SNG requirements and at least a bit of content besides what I noted. Happy editing! Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 22:12, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

I second that. I've been spending a lot of time cleaning up after recent Syrian91 edits. Please stop boldly moving these South Lebanon places, which each have a dozen or more alternative spellings. Request moves at WP:RM to form a consensus for the best title first. – wbm1058 (talk) 13:22, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

Burj al-Shemali

United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) spelling is Burj al-Shemali. I just created the redirect Burj al-Shemali. – wbm1058 (talk) 13:22, 13 December 2024 (UTC)