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October 2023

Hello, I'm Dorsetonian. I noticed that you made a comment on the page Talk:Prime (drink) that didn't seem very civil. Wikipedia is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Per this edit. Dorsetonian (talk) 17:17, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

And this was, frankly, ridiculous. Dorsetonian (talk) 17:20, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I was more frustrated that this so called veteran was being rude to myself and being toxic when like you said I was just trying to collaborate to a page, if my contribution needs amending or anything then why not help and assist a newbie like myself and approach it with kindness as opposed to rudeness and toxicity. Maybe what I left on his page was petty/too much but it goes to show he's been pulled up for this thing before and I just copied what was already in place so my apologies. But I guarantee you haven't told him off for not being civil, only me. I tried to be respectful but that went nowhere and I was met with toxicity which I think quite frankly was unfair. Like you said wiki is about collaboration and respect so where was mine in that situation, and why do I receive all the backlash. Regardless if I am new and he is a veteran of the site we should both be met with the same punishment/warning as he was the same with me if not worse because he started off the toxicity and pettiness. Spooderman6920 (talk) 20:04, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

You really need to stop with the attacks against a fellow editor. Dorsetonian (talk) 06:25, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Warning

You have now used the words "toxic/toxicity" 12 times on various pages in attacking AndyTheGrump. This from a user who complains other people are incivil... And when GoatLordServant said they disagreed Andy had been aggressive to you, and advised you gently to not escalate conflicts, you replied with more fighting words and more of the "toxic" (just as you do to Dorsetonian above). Since kindly advice has had no effect, I will tell you straight that the next time you attack Andy, you will be blocked for personal attacks. I have read the entire exchange between you and Andy, including the edit summaries at Prime (drink), so any "he started it" flapdoodle from you will not impress me. Bishonen | tålk 08:53, 4 October 2023 (UTC).

So in other words you are accepting no fault from him, I believe he was rude and uncivil in a time where a newcomer only required guidance, help and explanations yet everyone seems to not see this from my POV and decide to come after the newbie as opposed to the veteran. I see this as a complete violation of everything the site and editors are supposed to stand for. I have admitted I was wrong and I was petty and I admit that again now, but the failure to see why I went on that path and why I was upset baffles me as it wasn't for no reason. I don't agree these were personal attacks as I was giving the same uncivil testament I believe I was met with and responding to that. The word toxic is a word to summarise a given response and way of acting without prolonging it hence the over use but I don't regard that as a personal attack in my own eyes. I will continue to edit on the pages I have been in my own world far from any form of potential corruption. Spooderman6920 (talk) 18:12, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

November 2023

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Prime (drink). This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Dorsetonian (talk) 23:11, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

I reverted an edit which wasn't given an explanation. I have seen plenty of edits reverted due to a lack of reason hence why I put the message when I re added my edit, not out of bitterness or whatever, I was sticking to rules and asking for a reason for the removal of said edit. If you didn't want it on there or you didn't think it was a necessary change then you could of just talk paged me earlier nicely or explained on an edit revert, there is no need to say I'm in a war with you as that is not the case, I am picking up on your mistakes of not giving a reason for an edit removal as it looks like it may be out of bitterness due to the previous engagement I had on that page. I have no interest in continuing this so called war with you as it isn't that big of a deal to me, I simply thought my edit may be decent enough to remain on the page as it just helps with reading of what those said flavours are (e.g. the name meta moon doesn't give off a lot) and the order they were released in. If that change isn't wanted then that is fine but please tell me first before you jump onto "edit war" and "banning" over a lack of communication on your own part as I don't know why it was removed or anything along those lines. Spooderman6920 (talk) 23:20, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

I have just checked if you left a reason on the revert and there isn't one. I am just wondering why as I asked on my revert? It looks to me as you have just called me out for being in an "edit war" for the sake of it. Spooderman6920 (talk) 23:21, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

You are completely mistaken - I cited [[WP:V]], the policy on verifiability. Your text had already been challenged as original research by The Master of Hedgehogs and should not have been restored at all, per WP:BURDEN. So, re-adding your text contrary to policy and when opposed by two other editors was most definitely disruptive. Where we might agree is that the existing text was already quite poor and does need improvement. It was inadequately sourced, but adding even more unsourced content just made the problem worse. Dorsetonian (talk) 07:13, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

I didn't see the edit by Master of Hedgehogs so that's my fault. As a somewhat newbie I would of appreciated the comment on the revision or a talk page message over an edit war flag as you can tell I meant no harm and was just confused and didn't see certain content. I believe the edit war flag was too far in that regard as it could of been mentioned earlier and more civilly, but that's just my opinion. Spooderman6920 (talk) 12:54, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Your assertion that you didn't see the edit by The Master of Hedgehogs is somewhat contradicted by the edit history, where you responded directly to it:

• The Master of Hedgehogs: Honestly, release order for some flavors depends on the person, i.e both Lemon Lime and Blue Raspberry dropped simultaneously, it could be BR then LL or LL then BR
• You: Undid revision 1182365723 by The Master of Hedgehogs hi yeah I am well aware the first 5 flavours dropped at the same time but the last time I edited I got into an edit war over it. If you disagree and would rather the original flavours be separate then feel free :)

Somewhat ironic, too, that you started an edit war with that edit summary. Dorsetonian (talk) 08:16, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

I meant that, I didn't see it was him who made the comment, and when I went back through the history the other day I didn't notice it. Why do you have to be on my back so much also, I am just trying to help pages and if my ideas aren't wanted or appreciated that is fine but thee is no need to flag me for an edit war before saying a single thing to me or anything like that. Just let me breathe man ahahah. Spooderman6920 (talk) 16:22, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Lil Mosey Discography

You did not properly attribute the source of this page when you created it. As it was an internal copy ("copying within wikipedia") see WP:CWW for an explanation for why this is a problem and how you can now fix it. Dorsetonian (talk) 09:09, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Yeah I'm just slightly confused by this and what you mean. I just thought adding the discography to a separate page just cleans the page up a bit and allows for all content to be in that one place such as many other notable artist pages. I may be reading this wrong but of course I would of copied it over to the new page? Juts a bit confused. I would appreciate if you could help me out with my edits as my knowledge goes as far as the simple text code, I just make changes that I think work and make sense. Spooderman6920 (talk) 12:50, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Not disputing the page split, but you did not attribute the new page content properly - it's all explained at WP:CWW which I linked to above. Dorsetonian (talk) 08:27, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

god you're so helpful Spooderman6920 (talk) 16:22, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

that's sarcastic btw. I was just asking for help, so if I continue to get things wrong then so be it as I asked for your verbal help and maybe an example/explanation of what I need to do, but no so if I will by not mistake of my own continue to make errors Spooderman6920 (talk) 16:23, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

I obviously can't give you verbal help; I can only communicate with you in writing. And as what I would write is already written down, it really would make sense if you just went and read it. Dorsetonian (talk) 19:09, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

I gave up waiting and did it for you. Dorsetonian (talk) 19:43, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Sourcing

Following on from the discussion about verification and sourcing at Prime (drink), I noticed you have added significant content to the articles Lil Tjay discography, Joyner Lucas discography and Lil Skies discography without a single supporting reference. WP:Verifiability is a core policy of Wikipedia and must be followed so please add suitable references to support your changes. Dorsetonian (talk) 09:18, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Which content is it? It is the music video section as when I have the time I can reference the videos if that is what you mean. Like I said in my previous comment, any help that you can do yourself would be appreciated and then helping me along would be too. Spooderman6920 (talk) 12:51, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

I have added references to the lil mosey video section. I will do the lil tjay, lil skies and Joyner Lucas ones when I can. Spooderman6920 (talk) 13:33, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

I removed your content because after two weeks you still had not added any sources - it should not have stayed even that long. You have simply put it back again - this is not ok. You are welcome to restore it if at the same time you add references. The onus is on you to do this - see WP:BURDEN. Your edit summaries when you restored said that I acted "purely out of pettiness" but this is not so - verifiability is one of the central policies on Wikipedia and is non-negotiable. I consider those comments to be a personal attack. Please consider yourself warned not to restore unsourced content or persist with the personal attacks. Dorsetonian (talk) 19:43, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Bizzy Banks (November 4)

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

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All Is Yellow (Lyrical Lemonade album) moved to draftspace

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January 2024

Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living (or recently deceased) persons. Thank you. Brojam (talk) 20:39, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

May I ask how the KSI filmography section is "poorly referenced", it has direct references to where the info is sourced from. It doesn't get more legit than the accounts they were announced on. Spooderman6920 (talk) 21:51, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, you may be blocked from editing. Paulpat99 (talk) 04:52, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

what page is this regarding. I haven't made any edits to main pages in a while so you're a bit late to the party pal. If its about the KSI page, not a clue why you undid the whole thing because I added 2024 as a year to the misfits section. The descriptions fair enough but it doesn't take a genius to click on the main article pages to see the misfits events. If that little section on KSI's page is supposed to be a summary of the whole of the misfits promotion it is poor. Spooderman6920 (talk) 15:56, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Not late to the party I warned you straight after I reverted the Misfits edit on the KSI page. You need to add the sources when you add the statements. Readers should not have to go hunting for sources they should be there. You can have a summary but it must be supported by a WP:SOURCE. Paulpat99 (talk) 05:11, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

I didn't read that so my apologies. I am going to read 2024 in misfits back to the section as a main article however as I wont need a ref for that. Spooderman6920 (talk) 16:40, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Misfits Boxing (promotion)

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Warning

I've noticed you have removed the proposed deletion for Misfits Boxing (promotion) without any reasoning. Do not do this again. I understand that it may have taken you time to create this page, but it does not have any validation or reasoning to exist on its own. Not every company needs its own page. That is why Misfits Boxing already has a redirect to KSI#Misfits Boxing.

If you remove this proposal without any valid reasoning again, your account may be banned, as I have also noticed that this is not the first warning. GhaziTwaissi (talk) 12:56, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

I think you'll find I did have reasoning in the talk page section. Try look a little harder next time buddy, don't be so trigger happy to threaten individuals just because you're a little bitter. You only don't want a misfits page as you have created all the others. This page allows a summary of the company, it's fighters and the events and if people want further info they can go to your pages which are all linked throughout my page.Spooderman6920 (talk) 14:25, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

There is no need to be rude. I have just replied to your Talk:Misfits Boxing (promotion) response and the claim is not enough to justify having an entire page. Me creating other pages revolving the Misfits Boxing scene does not mean I "don't want a misfits page as you have created all the others," if that is the case then I would've already created one. You need to understand that not everything that exists needs its own page. For example, KSI vs Swarmz & Luis Alcaraz Pineda originally had its own page, but was then changed to a redirect to 2023 in Misfits Boxing#MF & DAZN: X Series 001 as it was deemed not important enough. GhaziTwaissi (talk) 17:05, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

I apologise if I was rude, it's just frustrating because I spent so long on the page. It's annoying because things that I create/change never receive the same reception I give them and they just get removed or reverted and it's just frustrating as I feel I'm not breaking any rules. I just don't see if your way and the way the wiki see's things, it just doesn't compute to me, so to me my page is more than valid regardless of the other pages, to me the page I made is a hub for all that info, if that makes sense. I'm sorry for being rude, it's just frustrating to have it all reverted when to me it makes nothing but sense to have that. Spooderman6920 (talk) 17:14, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Ignoring hidden notes

Please do not just ignore hidden notes when editing articles, as they are there for a reason. It is against policy to add films to filmographies before the start of filming, which you either knew or should have known thanks to the hidden notes. This is considered disruptive editing, and you will be blocked for it if you continue. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 12:38, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

no need for the threat pal. There are plenty of articles where this rule is ignored so need need to threaten me for it, just inform me of the rules thanks. Spooderman6920 (talk) 15:07, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

It's not a threat, just a warning. It's standard practice here to inform/remind editors of the potential consequences when letting them know their edits are disruptive. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 16:15, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Good job. You were able to discuss his upbringing and career though reputable sources. A few additional sources have been added, and some paragraphs have been modified for "flow", but this page was ultimately built on your work. Job well done! Between his charting on several national charts, extensive coverage in numerous reliable music publications, and connections with other artists, this page now passes notability.

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Trainsskyscrapers (talk) 22:48, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

March 2024

Hi Spooderman6920! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of Andrew Garfield several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.

All editors are expected to discuss content disputes on article talk pages to try to reach consensus. If you are unable to agree at Talk:Andrew Garfield, please use one of the dispute resolution options to seek input from others. Using this approach instead of reverting can help you avoid getting drawn into an edit war. Thank you. DonIago (talk) 19:56, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

the other editor is also doing the same thing so please add this message to their page also not just mine. I added a message about an edit war warning which they then removed (which is not allowed) so please also add this to their page. Spooderman6920 (talk) 20:51, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

I recommend you review WP:BLANKING; editors are allowed to remove messages of this nature from their Talk pages. As you already messaged them about it, I don't intend to do the same. DonIago (talk) 03:06, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

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I'm confused. So only I get this treatment when they were doing the same thing? That is hardly fair. I added that because that is an edit war is it not? That's three times he has reverted my edit and therefore it would be an edit war right? Yet I'm the only one getting warnings about it. I want to see that message on his talk page also. Spooderman6920 (talk) 13:19, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

You added a warning at 18:40 on 21 March which was totally inappropriate as the editor was not even close to edit warring. He reverted you twice, and those edits were more that 24 hours apart ( 7:55, 15 March and 18:40, 16 March) The editor quite reasonably removed the warning per WP:BLANKING and because it was inappropriate, which they are perfectly entitled to do. You reverted that deletion which again was totally inappropriate. Lard Almighty (talk) 13:48, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

So if I reverted him a day apart I'd be totally fine? make it make sense honestly. Sometimes these rules make no sense. Because I did it less than 24 hours apart its the issue when I had a constructive reason to add the change I did, whereas theirs was just "yeah no not here". You say he wasn't close to a warning but he did 2 reverts and I did 3 and got a warning so yes they was close to one, you just didn't want to give them one. Spooderman6920 (talk) 09:51, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:Edit warring before you issue any more warnings about edit warring. You clearly don't understand the policy. It's three reverts in a 24-hour period. He wasn't even close to that. Lard Almighty (talk) 10:47, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

April 2024

Hello, I'm Pilaz. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Sidemen, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Instagram is not a reliable third-party source for Wikipedia. You should be able to justify additions of content per WP:ONUS on the talk page. Your addition feels like it goes against WP:NOTPROMO, the flavor of cereals Sidemen launched is not a crucial element to include in an encylopedic entry. Pilaz (talk) 19:45, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Ways to improve GMTO Vol.1 (Get Money Take Over)

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