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afd process

I do understand the afd process and I have followed it technically. The difficulty with me and many is how wiki defines the WP:BEFORE. They have failed to list the tools that users need to identify whether a particular page needs the afd process. I recommend wiki listing in WP:BEFORE all the tools such as [1]that you gave me to find out why someone is wiki notable. That should along with other tools solve my problems of nominating wiki pages for afd. Pl. reply it here. --kaeiou (talk) 02:37, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

When i said you were not following AfD process properly, i was referring to your first few noms, when user SpacemanSpiff was pointing out that you weren't completing step 3. Anyway returning to the case of WP:PROF, it is more of consensus rather than hard numbers (as DGG explained it). I suggest going through old AfDs to see what the community thinks (or the talk pages of WP:PROF). There is clearcut consensus in cases like WP:ENT, WP:POLITICIAN, WP:AUTH or WP:GNG. So my suggestion is to read WP:BIO fully along with some old AfD cases, where it will be illustrated with examples.--Sodabottle (talk) 04:47, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Who are consenus? (you and I know who they are). Are they experts in the field or professors? It was just you and me on Chopra's notability. Let me know if you have additional tools. Thanks.--kaeiou (talk) 13:09, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Dimple Yadav

Hmm, I'm not sure how your changes pass WP:POLITICIAN. Essentially we now have a stub which says "she lost an election, and was mentioned in a story about asset fraud". Is that really notability, and under what terms? I wonder if anything useful here would be better merged into her husband's article or his father's, as the scandal seems to centre round them, not her. Black Kite 14:06, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Point taken. I accept your rationale. A separate article is not warranted now. I will merge the info with Akilesh Yadav's article. Since i (prematurely) removed Prod, can it be prodded again or should this have to be taken AfD --Sodabottle (talk) 14:11, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't think there's any need to delete it, just redirect it to wherever you merge the information. Black Kite 19:57, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Take a look? Have any history books? Really dubious content in the article right now. I don't have any specific books at hand, mine cover the dynasty in a very generic manner. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 06:28, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

I have been meaning to get there. I plan to finish the individual articles on kings, cities etc and then move on to the original big article. May be in May or June. (have a couple of other "big" rewrites planned before that).--Sodabottle (talk) 06:48, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
There's some casteist stuff creeping in there; if you can clean that out soon that'll be good :) —SpacemanSpiff 06:49, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
The "villavar" and "maravar" stuff. yeah i saw that. i cleaned up the "early pandyan kingdom" article, i will wait a day before sanitising the "pandyan dynasty". Previous experience shows, the caste warriors will edit war if i revert immediately, but if i wait a couple of days, they go away. I will take a look and do clean up tomorrow.--Sodabottle (talk) 06:52, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
I hope one day we can tag all the caste articles with {{original research}} and {{disputed}} tags and not have to worry about edit-warring to re-add them until the problem is resolved. —SpacemanSpiff 06:56, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
-). It gives me a headache to just think about them. Its already bad enough to deal with them in real life :-)--Sodabottle (talk) 06:58, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Spaceman, you're paranoid: [2],[3]. Whatever. Sasisekar (talk) 06:59, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

One more:[4]Sasisekar (talk) 07:25, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Your version (Early pandyan kingdom) says "Sarangdwaja participated in the Kurukshetra". This is wrong not to mention unreferenced. His name is Malayadwaja. Read the link that I gave. "In sangam tamil lexicon, Pandya means old country", ha!. Pandyan kingdom is considered old country as it was the first kingdom but it does not mean "old country" nor is the word Pandya derived from it.Sasisekar (talk) 07:33, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry we can discuss here. If i can refrain from reverting Fconaway's edit (he reverted mine) last week, I can refrain from reverting yours. Sasisekar (talk) 07:38, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

I will move the discussion to the article talk page, that way it gets archived for future reference. --Sodabottle (talk) 07:41, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Protection

I've protected your TP for an hour and UP for a day because of the socking attacks. I'm going to be away from my computer in another 5-10 min for a good while, so if you want it unprotected in that time, check with another admin. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Spiff. I have reported this at AnI. I will ask for protection if he comes back.--Sodabottle (talk) 19:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Erode

Can you take a look please? And also the edits of Sinsen (talk · contribs). He keeps introducing a lot of factual inaccuracies related to Erode in many articles. —SpacemanSpiff 06:17, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

will do.--Sodabottle (talk) 06:18, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

This is a possible DYK candidate. Currently I see this only taking about the latest complex, Can we have it to mention the history of various complexes, their architecture, historic moments and pictures to make it into WP:INRC?.Was there I heard quite a bit of history of various assembly complexes used for TN / Madras assembly in news, so getting RS shouldnt be a problem. We shall hope we get a picture of the new complex soon, otherwise I would have it when i go there next time in a month.Also keeping a watch on flickr. Srikanth (Logic) 12:11, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

A summarized history of the locations is Legislature of Tamil Nadu#Location. The references for this section has more details on the various locations and why the assembly moved. For DYK, we need a five fold expansion of new material, which unfortunately we (me and CarTick) have already put into the Legislature of Tamil Nadu article. So lets skip DYK for this unless we can lay hands on new material for five fold expansion. And regarding the recognised content. Yes I intend to nominate the legislature article to GA soon. (after a little tinkering and with more images)--Sodabottle (talk) 12:27, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Chola Dynasty

I have seen your comments on my talk page. I am busy with a few things today and will give a reply to you later in the day today itself. To put it short, I have reliable info about all points except help to Seunas and Kalachuris by Kulo III. That book is in my office library and I will source it in due course.

Thanks. In the meanwhile, you seem to have some pre-conceived notions about my 'history'. If that is so, kindly see the Chola Dynasty talk page where I and Arvind (Vadakkan) have had interactions and his comments about my sources and contributions. Hopefully, that will help you gain the right perspective.

Srirangam99 (talk) 04:44, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

I am waiting for the refs. If you had provided the sources on the first addition itself instead of first adding without sources then adding with refs that say something else and then saying you are busy, this entire reverting business could have been avoided. If you have the RS to back you up, why not add the thing in the first place with all references?. That said i will wait till tomorrow, if you haven't added the sources, i will revert back. I need no "notions about your history". your contribution history and block log give enough hints about it. --Sodabottle (talk) 04:51, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
And your are introducing broken ref links in the article. Please use the correct ref tags next time.--Sodabottle (talk) 04:56, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
I only used the RS in the form of two books available with me. They are two books by K.A.N.Sastri from which I have quoted and which you have also seen. I admit I am very bad at editing and I added the text from RS (and ended up placing broken ref links) in a form of continuing text. I think from next time, what I will do is (if you permit) get in touch with you and express the desire to place such and such text (from RS, of course) and you can help me by appropriately placing it in the concerned article.
I trust that you are a senior wikipedian and do have a neutral way of looking at things. I have never denied that I am very weak in editing etc. which I have conceded to everyone I came across in wiki. You can again check my so-called block log which was nothing but wanton reversion by another established wikipedian (who had an admin for protection) who never came into the article or tried to mediate in content dispute but straightaway started by stating he was blocking me and then coming up with the reasons. The usual practice as I understand is that if someone is committing a mistake then a senior admin first comes in and explains the mistake a newbie is committing and then he can also warn him that in case the same mistake is repeated then the newbie can get blocked etc.
That is why I said please read the talk page of Chola Dynasty, because there too after repeated discussions, even arguments with Spaceman Spiff initially arguing and even Arvind (Vadakkan) objecting to my contributions (with me not only keeping up my stance as well as giving detailed explanations on relying on my sources), the seniors finally did believe I have a case and commented on the quality of my contributions.
Sad to note that you too are repeating the same stance as was done by another admin in concluding about my blocks. In fact Sebastian Helms was a neutral admin on this topic and despite chiding me for my not being able to format or edit texts, he did help me with some points and even accepted a few contentions of mine. All the block logs you are talking about happened before this neutral intervention and I would like to inform you that soon after this, the person responsible for lodging false complaints against me and getting me blocked have become absent from wikipedia.

Srirangam99 (talk) 10:06, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

I am coming up with the RS on the third point about Veera Ballala II facing difficulties from Seuna and Kalachuri, on the Chola Dynasty talk page. Kindly see that page after a short while.

Srirangam99 (talk) 10:13, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough. I will format the refs and text from your talk page sources.--Sodabottle (talk) 11:24, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


Hi. (what should I call you, I feel odd referring to you as Sodabottle, though Bottle seems to me to be fine. My real name is Srinivasan and I live in Sahibabad (very close to the Delhi border). You can call me Srini or Cheenu (both are fine).
I have come up with two more bits of RS on the Chola Dynasty page. But one of them is showing as [1] which I do not like as it is from a different page from the same book. Could you help with editing and formatting. The text I placed (I feel) is in the right place. But howsoever you place is acceptable to me. Only that the two refs I placed may reflect separately (in ref numbers).
Thanks in advance.

Srirangam99 (talk) 08:15, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello, once again, it seems that you did not see my above post (of 24th March) could you do something. In case you desire, you can reply to me either on the Chola Dynasty talk page or on my talk page. Even if you choose to reply on this page itself, it is fine with me. I will check out all the three talk pages.Srirangam99 (talk) 13:47, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Y.............?????????????

Hi, could you please tell me why you are removing the contents of the article 'Sainoj'???????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.167.7.61 (talk) 13:23, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

I am "cleaning up" the article according to wikipedia policies. Wikipedia has some policies about what can be written and how it can be written. a) No copyright violation should be done - I am removing the photo and the links to youtube as they are copyrighted material b)I am writing it in a language and style which is accepted and recommended by wikipedia (read WP:MOS). Also the sainoj article has been currently nominated for deletion. If the above violations (copyright and style) are not corrected it might end up being deleted. Trust me, i want to keep the article in Wikipedia and doing my bit to help it.--Sodabottle (talk) 13:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks to all your hard work, Sodabottle, I have just withdrawn the nomination. It looks like a nice stub, a firm foundation for further building and a definite asset for Wikipedia. Thanks again! B.Wind (talk) 16:18, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
You are welcome B.Wind :-)--Sodabottle (talk) 17:31, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi Sodabottle, Thanks alot for your contribution to the article 'Sainoj'. I was new to Wiki and was not aware of all the rules. Would you please tell me, how to add an image of Mr.Sainoj to that article? He is my first cousin, and I have his photos with me. Please help.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by DipuSukumaran (talkcontribs) 03:59, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I have added an image to the article 'Sainoj'. It is picture drawn by me. Please modify it, if anything is improper... Thanks in advance, Dipu. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DipuSukumaran (talkcontribs) 15:09, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

S. Rajam

Thank you for creating this article! Hekerui (talk) 17:38, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

You are welcome :-). --Sodabottle (talk) 17:41, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: Kumar Rajendran's photos

The problem is that the images uploaded by the user and deleted in Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2010 March 9 were marked as free when they were professional images of actors, historic events, etc, and lacking information on date/authorship/etc. One can make an argument for fair use, but the images did not have a rationale. However, you can ask the deleting administrator to undelete an image you believe can be used under fair use and then add a free use notice and rationale to the image page if he/she accepts you request. Best Hekerui (talk) 09:31, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

The Barnstar of Recovery
for adding sources to and improving Carlos Grangel. DES (talk) 00:55, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
-) Thanks!--Sodabottle (talk) 05:01, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

The Barnstar of Diligence

The Barnstar of Diligence
Had it not been for your proper due diligence on Carlos Grangel the article might have been deleted before the man's awards were found and sourced. I am honored to present you this Barnstar for your dedication in seeking to improve articles when others decided they could not be bothered to do so. Keep up the good work! Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 00:29, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank you MQS :-) --Sodabottle (talk) 03:59, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Re

Where I was up to. Ncmvocalist (talk) 14:09, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!!. That was what i was looking for :-). I will go through the edits and revert the dob changes (if any)--Sodabottle (talk) 14:26, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Active again, I just blocked 117.204.120.56 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). —SpacemanSpiff 06:32, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
He starts with a keralite article and moves on. :-). At what point is a range block considered? There can't be that many editors from 117.204.*.* --Sodabottle (talk) 06:37, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Is it all 117.204? That range is quite busy. —SpacemanSpiff 06:43, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
most edits in that range seem to be from him only. This is definitely him 117.204.114.244 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)--Sodabottle (talk) 06:50, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Yes, apparently he was active yesterday too, if you change from 50 to 500, you'll notice that. I'll ask a CU to check out collateral damage to logged in editors, I can't see that. —SpacemanSpiff 06:54, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
FYI, I think the number vandal's range can be narrowed down a bit tighter than 117.204.*.*. Over the several weeks I've been cleaning up after this guy, I think his address has always been 117.204.1**.***, i.e., something in the 100s range in the third set of numbers. AtticusX (talk) 18:12, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
I saw one on 117.204.8x.xxx, I'll wait for the CU response and do the range block tonight (Pacific time). —SpacemanSpiff 18:23, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Cushing

Thanks again—I think I've got everything now (added another image, too). I'd actually got the City of Calgary issue before you completed the review; I assume you just missed that, but if there was some problem with it please let me know. Steve Smith (talk) 15:13, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I had indeed missed that. Now passed GAR and listed as GA.--Sodabottle (talk) 18:21, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

India

hi i would like to know more about indian history... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eshper (talkcontribs) 11:13, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

We have an excellent History of India article to begin your reading :-)--Sodabottle (talk) 11:21, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Note

oh..!!!thanks for your help!!...

Eshper (talk) 11:19, 5 April 2010 (UTC)


yes i have read the history of India on wikipedia but there are some thiing that is bothering me like the story of Jodha/Akbar and Asoka.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eshper (talkcontribs) 11:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Okay. what specifically about asoka or akbar is bothering you? --Sodabottle (talk) 11:25, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Jodha/Akbar and Asoka Story

i would like to know more about these people....if you would know about them profoundly... Eshper (talk) 11:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

There i would be of no help as unfortunately no personal details of these subjects have survived (if they existed in the first place). What we have now are only collection of legends and oral histories (which would have changed greatly over time and thus highly unreliable). What remains now is only highly romanticized versions of what could have happened. :-(. --Sodabottle (talk) 11:33, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

ok then thanks a lot.... talk to you another time.... Eshper (talk) 11:41, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi Plz take care of this article.PPl are replacing referenced content by original research.I tried to restore the better version but some users removing it again nd again.Plz add this article in ur watch list.Also reply a thread pertaining to the same article on India related article.ThanksChhora (talk) 23:56, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

self respect movement

do you have access to this book Self-Respect Movement in Tamil Nadu, 1920-1940 by Nataraja Kandasamy Mangalamurugesan. --CarTick 19:42, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

nope, i haven't heard of it. is this in English or Tamil?--Sodabottle (talk) 04:43, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
English. I had a chance to go through the book quick. it is not a great scholarly book, but still has a lot of useful information for Self respect movement. --CarTick 12:44, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Help requiered

hello sodabottle, can u help me edit my user page like yours.... i dont know ....i am new here..... Eshper (talk) 05:58, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Request

Hi Sodabottle. Having been inactive for quite sometime, I don't know the currently active editors of TN-related articles. Since I know that you're one of the active editors in TN-related articles (though more interested in politics), I request you to take a look at Puthandu and its talk page. I don't have enough time to look for RS to support other unrepresented POVs. So, I'm handicapped in addressing the issues. Can you please help with that article? -- Sundar \talk \contribs 07:21, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

will do in the next couple of days. But my knowledge in religious/tamil culture issues is very negligible. I will do what i can there.--Sodabottle (talk) 07:25, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Nice save, but I add an image and think I screwed up the format. :-( Bearian (talk) 23:38, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

i changed the images to double image format. still a little kooky, but better than before.--Sodabottle (talk) 04:57, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! :-))) --Egorscha (talk) 03:09, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

you are welcome!--Sodabottle (talk) 04:57, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Robosapien: Rebooted

The article Robosapien: Rebooted was rewritten in its entirety. See my comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robosapien: Rebooted. Erik (talk | contribs) 14:33, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Merge discussion for A. J. John Memorial High School

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The Hindu

removing non-relevant portions from this page. The source in that is an article by an extremist which is a reply when he was criticized by the newspaper. Read that article to find the author don't have a point to reason himself. And putting this irrational reply as a criticism to the newspaper is merely ridiculous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.94.89.110 (talk) 07:48, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Would appreciate if you don't use terms like "ridiculous". we are not insulting each other here. You have a valid point. Just tone down the language.--Sodabottle (talk) 08:10, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Sodabottle. You have new messages at Talk:Anti-Hindi agitations of Tamil Nadu/GA1.
Message added SBC-YPR (talk) 12:42, 23 April 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

AHA GAR

sorry i couldnt be of any help lately. will try to do something this Sunday. good luck. --CarTick 15:19, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

me too. it caught me on a unusually busy week. hopefully this weekend i will be able to work on it.--Sodabottle (talk) 03:56, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

If you were too take your edits and start a career section, it would make the article look better. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 17:32, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Thank you for your hard work on Anti-Hindi agitations of Tamil Nadu. Following some excellent work on the suggestions provided, I have now passed this article as a Good article, and updated the various talk page templates to reflect this.

That also means you get one of these:


which you may like to place on your user page (or somewhere suitable) by copy/pasting {{User Good Article|Anti-Hindi agitations of Tamil Nadu}} into the page code.

Great job - in particular, I was quite impressed with the summary of the two sections that were moved off into sub-articles of their own - with some additional work, they could become GA candidates themselves. Well done, and all the best! Regards, SBC-YPR (talk) 16:52, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!--Sodabottle (talk) 16:57, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
good job. i will try help atleaset during its FAR. --CarTick 17:04, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
I am scared of taking this to FAR. They are kind of ruthless over there :-). I plan on taking some of our other work - council, assembly, justice party, elections etc to GA first and then revisit this for FAR. --Sodabottle (talk) 17:08, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
sounds good. --CarTick 17:11, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
I award you this barnstar for your excellent work in getting Anti-Hindi agitations of Tamil Nadu to good article quality. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 11:01, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

It definitely looks like a future FA. But, having GAs on the important subjects that you've listed here will definitely be useful. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 11:01, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Sundar!--Sodabottle (talk) 14:07, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

How and whom to apply for rollback rights?

Hi sodabottle,

How to and to whom should we apply for getting roll abck rights? Do we have any eligibility creteria? If so, what is that. Wasifwasif (talk) 13:42, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

M. R. Seetharam

Thanks for sourcing this. I looked and looked through the Google News Archives but only got hits of other "Mr. Seetharam"-s. Hekerui (talk) 08:49, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

You are welcome. I added a "Karnataka MLA" to the search string. Also Gnews doesn't archive Deccan Herald completely - web search has to done to search the paper's arhives. Another way to source MLAs and MPs is through the Election Commission website - it has detailed results of all elections --Sodabottle (talk) 08:58, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

--HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:45, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi Sodabottle. I semi-protected the article for two weeks and hopefully that'll work. Thank you for your patient vandal reversions! --RegentsPark (talk) 14:51, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!--Sodabottle (talk) 15:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Areapal

Hi User:Sodabottle Spoiltsport here India . I want to request you to support my article on a site called Areapal.com http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Areapal Based in India for which i have cited a few references from Hindu, Indian express, Deccan Chronicle. Since it's from India they are not understanding the demographics over here and are not agreeing on the notability of the article. the site is quite popular in Southern part of India like Chennai, Bangalore, Hyderabad. So i am requesting if at all you have heard of that site to support it, help edit it and save it from being deleted thank you. Ella pugazhum Iraivanukae - Spoiltsport (talk) 20:30, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

images

u think it would be a good idea to contact Government of Tamil Nadu to release some of their copy righted images to wikipedia. --CarTick 14:37, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

I have mailed various departments and they never reply back. I plan to attend the Tamil Internet conference (part of the classical tamil meet) and ask some internet savvy bureaucrat there. I will also ask the ta.wiki crats like Sundar who are already in touch with the govt over the ta.wiki contest about this. --Sodabottle (talk) 15:02, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
good luck with that. --CarTick 16:14, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Sodabottle, could you give me the urls of images that would be useful? I'll try getting them, but getting them meet the OTRS requirements is going to be very hard. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 05:59, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Sundar. The images i had in mind are :
  1. Historical pictures in State Public Information archive - I saw in the news sometime back they have a digitization project and they conducted an exhibition in Chennai displaying them. They usually give authors permission to reprint but takes connections to make a request. If they can put the archive only by CC license, it would be great help
  2. Portraits all CMs past and present. Portraits of all governors past and present.
  3. Portraits/thumbnails of MLAs (as available in assembly.tn.gov.in
  4. Pictures of the new legislative assembly complex
  5. Images from Tourism Development Corporation (Irayainbu IAS is doing some sort of online promotion for TTDC, so he must be inter savvy)
  6. Images from Film Archives. The JJ government paid 10 lakh rupees to Film News Anandan to acquire his archive collections, but neglected to acquire the rights to them or digitize them.--Sodabottle (talk) 06:18, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Sodabottle, if you can help draft a proposal/request, it'll speeden up things. Can you please send me an email? -- Sundar \talk \contribs 04:40, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Keshav Ginde

Hi, thanks for adding a source, but why force the image smaller? I myself can't see anything in 125px :-) Regards Hekerui (talk) 08:57, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

oops. Mea culpa. I didnt mean to make it that small. I use 125px for the infoboxes on stub sized articles and blindly used it here thinking it was an infobox.!--Sodabottle (talk) 09:00, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
That's because you're so laborious :-) Hekerui (talk) 19:29, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

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About your waning

Thanks for your few texts. Encyclopedia is not a place for give a space create personal promotion pages for all parliament members in the world or all Models and actress or singers or business persons."Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion. And it is not a blog, web space provider, social networking, or memorial site. According to Wikipedia policy it should be an encyclopedic stand. Main three Overviews of Wikipedia is Outline of Knowledge, Overviews and List of academic disciplines. It is project based on an openly-editable model. Many visitors come to Wikipedia to acquire knowledge, others to share knowledge."These information available on Wikipedia. I am trying to remove some unnecessary contacts. If you don’t agree to my Nominations please participate to discussion forum. best (--wipe 13:48, 26 May 2010 (UTC) ) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wipeouting (talkcontribs)

Tamil conference

wonder if u r planning to attend? --CarTick 01:22, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes i am going. Ta Wiki is planning to put up a wikipedia stall i think and i have volunteered. I will be definitely there full day during the weekend (its like a 30 minute bus ride from my home). On the weekdays, not full day, but for lesser time as the day job workload permits. --Sodabottle (talk) 03:58, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
great. hope we will get a lot of pictures, may be, even pictures of some politicians. --CarTick 12:51, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

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Ramanathapuram Population & Madurai rulers

Couldn't find the religion wise population in the given link in Ramanathapuram page. Please provide exaact link with sub pages. Also why have you simply neglected the rule of Madurai Sultanate rather than formatting it. Wasifwasif (talk) 14:29, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

  1. I have corrected the Census link now. Due to the 2011 census, all 2001 TN data has now moved to this URL
  2. I dont quite understand your query about the formatting of Madurai Sultanate. I have left the primary quotes of Ibn Battuta and Gangadevi as such instead of paraphrasing them because they are first hand accounts. To paraphrase/read into them would border on original research. Some historians of Madurai like Narasaiah, use more stronger terms to describe the Sultans (like "kolaikaaran", "padupaadhagan" etc), i didnt want to do that. So i merely took quotes from both accounts which corroborated each other and put them there. Ibn Batuta is very reliable as a historian so, his primary descriptions are enough to describe the sultanate without paraphrasing them--Sodabottle (talk) 14:53, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello,

My name is Gregg Luckman, esq and I represent DJ Chef Entertainment Corp, the owner of the "DJ Chef" trademark. The page wiki.riteme.site/wiki/DJ_Chef and the user are infridging on the copyrights the mark without the owner permission or license. Please remove this copyrighted material. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.237.48 (talk) 17:20, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

I don't see anything in that page that constitutes copyright violation. The Wikipedia article is on a person who calls himself as "DJ Chef" - the article is not written on behalf of the subejct. As such an article in Wikipedia does not constitute copyright infringement. You should be taking up this issue (through legal or other means) with the subject (the person who calls himself DJ Chef) himself.--Sodabottle (talk) 17:49, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your Text

Thanks for your Text.I pay attention to your points .I hope to contact you and other Writers if i want to clear something.--Wipeouting (talk) 08:37, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

TASMAC

I have revised the category.I hope it is acceptable, if not please feel free to reverse it. Shyamsunder (talk) 06:46, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

I think it should be renamed to its full name. Shyamsunder (talk) 07:03, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

That is okay.Shyamsunder (talk) 07:11, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

v

can you please explain to me what is this wp:v??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cupidcobra1 (talkcontribs) 16:32, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

thanx. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cupidcobra1 (talkcontribs) 17:00, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

barnstar

The Original Barnstar
For working to get Anti-Hindi agitations of Tamil Nadu to GA The EnforcerOffice of the secret service 18:33, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Ravi :-)--Sodabottle (talk) 18:37, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that would be good. :-) You could mail me using the "Email this user" option. Thanks a lot :-)-The EnforcerOffice of the secret service 09:22, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

An inquiry

I have an idea propose These artless to AfDThusitha Laknath,Thisara Imbulana let me know your feed back. --Wipeouting (talk) 15:29, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

What is your opinion aboutSaheli Rochana Gamage. In Sri Lanka more than 5000 musician and singers. most of them have personal websites. they can get media publicity easily using news pares. This singers is same as. she is not Notable. there lots of Notable and eminent artist in sri Lanka, but they don't have any media publicity or webs or links. My idea is , This is a self promotion.she is not importance to encyclopedia. should remove--Wipeouting (talk) 03:50, 8 June 2010 (UTC).

Madurai population

Hi Soda bottle, The article mostly talks about Entire madurai (Thiruparankundram, AlagarKoil etc.,) and not only the city. So its better to mention the population of urban agglomeration. Whats your thought?

Actually we dont need the population number in the lead - just the mention it is no 3 in tamil nadu and no 2 till 2001 is enough. the demographics section explains everything so we need repeat statistics in the lead.--Sodabottle (talk) 09:54, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
That looks ok. Thanks Soda bottle (I don't know how to call you with your exact name) for your suggestion. Wasifwasif (talk) 14:11, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Call me "Sodabottle" :-). --Sodabottle (talk) 14:22, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot!

Thank you so much for doing a lot of research and participating at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Indian Passport.jpg and thereby saving the image and even more important, File:Emblem_of_India.svg! --JovianEye (talk) 13:54, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Jus doin' my wiki duty sir :-)--Sodabottle (talk) 14:14, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

can u pls

I am not sure whether you will be interested in this; but can you pls weigh in here with your opinion - Talk:Vegetarianism_and_religion#Explanation_for_my_edit. . I very badly need a 3rd party opinion written over there. Thanks. Arjuncodename024 13:20, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry cant help. My knowledge in this issue is limited to eating habits of Tamils in Tamil Nadu alone. I wont by any use in on a pan-hindu discussion.--Sodabottle (talk) 13:25, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks by the way. However, the opinion i was looking was more of a common-sense opinion; rather than on the subject. Arjuncodename024 13:52, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

advice needed ==

Hi Mr Sodabottle,

Amazed at the stars you have received for your work. I need some advice from you.

I would like to create a page for Dr P Umanath IAS the current District Collector of Coimbatore district. In fact, I did create one but it was deleted almost immediately, despite the fact that I put a hang-on tag.

I can I improve my chances of having that page permanently? What other details about the page I can give you to help me better?

thanks in advance.

Mydeen (Lovethewalk) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lovethewalk (talkcontribs) 13:29, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

A request

Sorry for the delay in replying. And thanks a lot for mailing the link with the pages. :-) Unfortunately I could not open the .rar file as I do not have a licensed version of Winzip in my PC. Anyway, I feel that I have sufficiently expanded the article C. Rajagopalachari and I have nominated it for GA. However, my week-long leave comes to an end and I'll be leaving for my workplace this night and I do not have internet connection over there. So, I may not be able to edit Wikipedia as much as I had over the past week. So, I request you to handle the GA-discussion. I also request you to look after two new articles Aavin and Naihaa which I have created and ensure that no one tags them for deletion. Bye.-The EnforcerOffice of the secret service 13:54, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

will keep an eye on the articles.--Sodabottle (talk) 14:07, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

on the article Tamil language mr sodabottle

why the hell are you removing the said " 15th most popular language" from the article —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rimazram (talkcontribs) 10:05, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi friend, I request you have your valuable comments on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of hotels in Mumbai, also there are more than 50% of names in the list having there own articles with proper reference and all hotels are five star and some are international brands also. Thanks KuwarOnline Talk 18:10, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

would be great to have a picture of this lake. --CarTick 02:55, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

will take one next weekend. :-)--Sodabottle (talk) 03:37, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
thanks. whenever u happen to go there. nothing is urgent in wikipedia. :) --CarTick 11:52, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
one more request. a picture of Sálim Ali Centre for Ornithology and Natural History. again no hurry. whenever. --CarTick 23:21, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
will do both after the tamil conference is over - till then too many police around. doesnt look good to walk around with a camera :-)--Sodabottle (talk) 04:45, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
oh yea. agree. --CarTick 16:27, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

About political parties in India

Hello, Sodabottle

I would kindly draw your attention about List of political parties in India and List of recognised political parties in India. User Soman and User Viplovecomm are reverting my edits because they think that in India there isn't two national political parties like INC & BJP, as a result they had put other smaller political parties like CPI(M), RJD or SP into national category. But in my view INC & BJP are the two parties who achieved their national status more of all they ruled in India but my friend user aren't agreeing with please take a part of this complex discussion.--Kkm010as© 10:37, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Early Pandyan Kingdom

Hello Sodabottle,

I have added an information regarding the Etymology of "Pandyan" from the Source of Ramayan!

Shall I know why you reverted the information? I gave citation for that, did you noticed it or not?

If you feel that my information is not correct or inappropriate, please clear me! I will revert it!

if you are unable to find where they mentioned Pandya's in Ramayan goto this page

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/kishkindha/sarga41/kishkindhaitrans41.htm

and press Ctrl+f and type "paandya" not "pandya".

you can also see verse containing Chera and Chola!

Regards,

Haribabu.P —Preceding unsigned comment added by Servophbabu (talkcontribs) 20:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

is it worth nominating for ITN with some fundamental work? looks like a heavily viewed articleand. --CarTick 00:56, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Philosophically i am against spending effort on that article :-). I considered bringing it upto a GA level a week before and decided in the long run, it doesnt add value to the encyclopaedia or Tamil.

BTW the Tamilint conference begins thursday and i will be there on thursday-sunday. Tamil wiki has been given 6 stalls - a huge space considering biggies like Microsoft etc have been given only 2 each. I was there on Tuesday tagging along with Tamil wiki coordinator Ravi. Saw Stalin and KKSSR but didnt have my camera at that time so couldnt take pics. Most of the senior Ta wiki editors will be attending in the last two days (Sundar will be coming as a delegate i think).

And i forgot to tell you, i entered the Ta wiki essay contest a couple of months ago and translated most of our election/politics article into Tamil. They didnt win, but about 50 of our and Ravichandar's articles are now going to be in Ta wiki. --Sodabottle (talk) 03:50, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

sounds real good. wish i was in Coimbatore now. pls tell me more about the essay contest. who won the contest then? by the way, pls carry a lot of batteries and memory space with you for camera. :) --CarTick 04:03, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Govt of TN organised a article contest in April for Ta wiki as part of the Tamil internet conference. First it was restricted to college students, but later opened to members of the public. This is the official website and these are the winners. About 3000 entries were recieved of which 1200 were deemed encyclopaedic (unfortunately "katturai" for tamils means something to do with quotations, intro, summary and a lot of empty rhetoric inbetween). Entries were solicited in a wide range of subjects - science, arts, medicine, sports, education etc. The first prize was a laptop so i decided to take a shot and brute force it (no limit to the number of entries per person). There was a 500 word limit for entries. I translated all our election articles (19) of them and some of Ravichandar's CM biographies. Plus a few more of my own history/cinema/miscellany articles. Total worked out to be 52. Tawiki Ravi (one of the organisers) says one of them came close to being third, but the rest didnt quite make it to the top. I am currently wikifying them in my ta wiki userspace--Sodabottle (talk) 04:21, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
wow. u r amazing. i admire your hard work and persistence. --CarTick 04:32, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
One of my relative Dr.SMA Kather is giving a speech on sunday 12:30-1:30 on "Thuckalay Peer Muhammad waliyullah and Kavichakravarthy Kambar. - A comparison". Got a special entry ticket. But unfortunately couldn't make it to Coimbatore becuase of next day office. I hope the "World tamil classical Conference" article will be in a good look after the conference since people like Ravi, Sundar etc., have geared up. Missing a lot. Wasifwasif (talk) 06:13, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I was about to ask you whether you were planning on attending (given your location), but I see that's already been answered :-) Great to see ta.wiki receiving good attention here. Would you be able to write a summary of the event after its conclusion - I think it would form a nice theme for the next edition of the WP:IND newsletter (which has been lying dormant for some time and needs to be revived)? Try and take lots of pictures if you can. All the best! Regards, SBC-YPR (talk) 14:25, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I can do that. I think it will be a little tight on thursday and friday because only a few of us will be there to man the stalls. But On saturday and sunday atleast 10 Tamil wikipedians will be there. So there will be lots of time to report and photograph.--Sodabottle (talk) 14:34, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Is there any chance if i can join our Tamil wikipedians in that stall if i visit the conference on saturday.? If yes, Whom should i get in touch with? Eagerly waiting for your reply.Wasifwasif (talk) 14:45, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Wasif, those attending have already applied for ID cards (we havent got them yet). We are still not sure who will be let in or not. Only tomorrow morning we will find out. I will mail you tomorrow after getting concrete information (i dont think there will be any difficulty in you joining the team.. just more procedures)--Sodabottle (talk) 15:07, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. Any chance of applying now.? Whom should i, if i can? Wasifwasif (talk) 06:09, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Copy. I have mailed you the necessary details. Please revert. Hope will get an accredition and can take part in this rare happening without much hassle.Wasifwasif (talk) 09:16, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello. Yes you're right. I think semi-protection should be a good idea. TwoHorned User_talk:TwoHorned 14:30, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

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Last Day

Hi, How was the last day of the conference? Did any ntable person visited our stall? Wasifwasif (talk) 12:55, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

there was no last day for us. We got tired and decided to take the last day off :-)--Sodabottle (talk) 12:57, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

ooh. ok. Wasifwasif (talk) 13:00, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

hope it went well, and u guys managed to get some pictures. --CarTick 16:02, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
i got only one. the govt screwed up id cards, so us volunteers were confined to the stall - no getting out of our venue. security was tight and i managed to photograph only stalin who visited our stall. --Sodabottle (talk) 16:11, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Stalin? A ghost? --RegentsPark (talk) 17:07, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
i meant our crown prince M. K. Stalin :-)--Sodabottle (talk) 03:49, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
I often wonder if Karunanidhi still admires Stalin 57 years after his death and his son's birth. --CarTick 03:53, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Probably yes. Most of the Tamil vernacular sources on Lenin and Stalin come from CPI, CPM, CPIML, Ma.ka.i.ka owned publishing houses. So the communist leaders are always portrayed as heroes who stopped fascism and hitler. The great purges, molotov-ribbentrop pact, gulags, deportation of class enemies are all whitewashed or downplayed. So for a person who reads only Tamil books for gaining world knowledge, Stalin remains a hero. It is blasphemy to question party line in those circles. MK is a widely read man (in Tamil), so probably he still admires Stalin.--Sodabottle (talk) 03:59, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject India Newsletter Volume V, Issue no. 1 - (June 2010)

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