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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023
Hello Sirdog/Archives,
- Backlog
The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.
- 2022 Awards
Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!
Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)
New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js
to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js
Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.
Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.
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Administrators' newsletter – February 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2023).
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- Following an RfC, the administrator policy now requires that prior written consent be gained from the Arbitration Committee to mark a block as only appealable to the committee.
- Following a community discussion, consensus has been found to impose the extended-confirmed restriction over the topic areas of Armenia and Azerbaijan and Kurds and Kurdistan.
- The Vector 2022 skin has become the default for desktop users of the English Wikipedia.
- The arbitration case Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 24 February 2023.
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Administrators' newsletter – March 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2023).
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- Following a request for comment, F10 (useless non-media files) has been deprecated.
- Following a request for comment, the Portal CSD criteria (P1 (portal subject to CSD as an article) and P2 (underpopulated portal)) have been deprecated.
- A request for comment is open to discuss making the closing instructions for the requested moves process a guideline.
- The results of the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey have been posted.
- Remedy 11 ("Request for Comment") of the Conduct in deletion-related editing case has been rescinded.
- The proposed decision for the Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case is expected 7 March 2023.
- A case related to the Holocaust in Poland is expected to be opened soon.
- The 2023 appointees for the Ombuds commission are AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, JJMC89, MdsShakil, Minorax and Renvoy as regular members and Zabe as advisory members.
- Following the 2023 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Mykola7, Superpes15, and Xaosflux.
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Guild of Copy Editors March 2023 Newsletter
Guild of Copy Editors March 2023 Newsletter
Election results: In our December 2022 coordinator election, Reidgreg and Tenryuu stepped down as coordinators; we thank them for their service. Incumbents Baffle gab1978, Dhtwiki, Miniapolis and Zippybonzo were returned as coordinators until 1 July. For the second time, no lead coordinator was chosen. Nominations for our mid-year Election of Coordinators open on 1 June (UTC). Drive: 21 editors signed up for our January Backlog Elimination Drive, 14 of whom claimed at least one copy-edit. Between them, they copy-edited 170 articles totaling 389,737 words. Barnstars awarded are here. Blitz: Our February Copy Editing Blitz focused on October and November 2022 requests, and the March and April 2022 backlogs. Of the 14 editors who signed up, nine claimed at least one copy-edit; and between them, they copy-edited 39,150 words in 22 articles. Barnstars awarded are here. Drive: Sign up now for our month-long March Backlog Elimination Drive. Barnstars awarded will be posted here after the drive closes. Progress report: As of 12:08, 19 March 2023 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors have processed 73 requests since 1 January 2023, all but five of them from 2022, and the backlog stands at 1,872 articles. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Baffle gab1978, Dhtwiki, Miniapolis and Zippybonzo. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.
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Administrators' newsletter – April 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2023).
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- A community RfC is open to discuss whether reports primarily involving gender-related disputes or controversies should be referred to the Arbitration enforcement noticeboard.
- Some older web browsers will not be able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis starting this week. This mainly affects users of Internet Explorer 11. (T178356)
- The rollback of Vector 2022 RfC has found no consensus to rollback to Vector legacy, but has found rough consensus to disable "limited width" mode by default.
- A link to the user's Special:CentralAuth page will now appear in the subtitle links shown on Special:Contributions. This was voted #17 in the Community Wishlist Survey 2023.
- The Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case has been closed.
- A case about World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been opened, with the first evidence phase closing 6 April 2023.
Design a script for me that gives the player money
Design a script for me that gives the player money 154.237.37.60 (talk) 08:28, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
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Question from RedactedHash (14:16, 27 April 2023)
I am trying to edit the article on Sheol. It mentions a derivation of the true name of God that is absolutely blasphemous to the Jewish community. It keeps getting reverted despite being offensive. Is there a way to correct this? I replaced the word with "The Hebrew God" and linked to the names of God in the torah to try and compromise but the person reverting sees zero issue with the blasphemy and is defending keeping it as preventing censorship (bs) and being inclusive of other religions (very slightly true but they are all religions that co-opted the name) that use it while ignoring that the article is primarily focused on the Hebrew/Jewish interpretation. Please help. --RedactedHash (talk) 14:16, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hello RedactedHash, and welcome to Wikipedia! While I sympathize that this may be very frustrating, Equine-man is correct to mention Wikipedia's policy of not censoring it's content, as your argument appears to focus on the potential offending of a group of people. Were Wikipedia to adjust it's own content to minimize the potential for offense, it would be a herculean task to write articles about a wide array of subjects, such as articles detailing varying belief systems. Wikipedia's sole focus is on what reliable secondary sources say about a given topic, which Wikipedia then summarizes faithfully at the relevant article.
- One of the core aspects of Wikipedia is collaboration, which means that whenever a change you desire to present on an article is reverted or undone, you are obligated to attempt to start a discussion on the relevant article talk page (in this instance, Talk:Sheol) to attempt to garner consensus for your desired edit. In other words, you would discuss with the objecting editor - alongside anyone else who decides to contribute - until some kind of agreement on what to do is made. If the discussion does not result in a consensus among editors for a change, the article would remain as it was prior to any change, so as to maintain the status quo.
- You can make use of various tools to help generate consensus - referred to as dispute resolution - such as requesting a 3rd opinion, posting a request for mediation at the dispute resolution noticeboard, or creating a formal request for comment. Please make sure to read the relevant guidelines for these tools should you decide to make use of them. None of these tools should be used until an attempt for discussion at the talk page is attempted and fails to bare fruit after roughly 7 days (this isn't a hard rule but I think it's a good baseline).
- In this instance, I would strongly advise you not continue to edit the article to invoke your desired change and start a discussion on Talk:Sheol. I see that there is a somewhat relevant discussion on your talk page, but discussing a potential change to article content should really not be on an individual editor's talk page.
- Cheers! —Sirdog (talk) 01:20, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – May 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2023).
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- A request for comment about removing administrative privileges in specified situations is open for feedback.
- Progress has started on the Page Triage improvement project. This is to address the concerns raised by the community in their 2022 WMF letter that requested improvements be made to the tool.
- The proposed decision in the World War II and the history of Jews in Poland case is expected 11 May 2023.
- The Wikimedia Foundation annual plan 2023-2024 draft is open for comment and input through May 19. The final plan will be published in July 2023.
Question from John Dalton Piercy (15:32, 8 May 2023)
Hi.
I had a previous id under an email I can no longer access. Is there any way of merging to two ids? --John Dalton Piercy (talk) 15:32, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hello John Dalton Piercy. Could you elaborate as to what you mean by an "id"? Wikipedia only makes use of usernames. If you are referring to having another Wikipedia account, so long as you remember your username and password you can simply login and change the email. If you don't remember the password or username, and you lost access to the account's email address, then unfortunately the account is lost forever. More information about this is available at Help:Logging in. —Sirdog (talk) 19:37, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. I meant username. I guess the old account is lost forever. Appreciate your responding. 2A00:23C7:1787:9A01:E520:A2A6:3F1F:8F3C (talk) 09:20, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
About Hercules
Zeus would be Thor in Norse Mythology. Saturn/Cronus would be Odin in Norse Mythology. Wreck!tRalph89 (talk) 14:32, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
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Septermber GOCE newsletter
Guild of Copy Editors September 2023 Newsletter
Hello and welcome to the September 2023 newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since June. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. David Thomsen: Prolific Wikipedian and Guild member David Thomsen (Dthomsen8) died in November 2022. He was a regular copy editor who took part in many of our Drives and Blitzes. An obituary was published in the mid-July issue of The Signpost. Tributes can be left on David's talk page. Election news: In our mid-year Election of Coordinators, Dhtwiki was chosen as lead coordinator, Miniapolis and Zippybonzo continue as assistant coordinators, and Baffle gab1978 stepped down from the role. If you're interested in helping out at the GOCE, please consider nominating yourself for our next election in December; it's your WikiProject and it doesn't organize itself! June Blitz: Of the 17 editors who signed up for our June Copy Editing Blitz, 12 copy-edited at least one article. 70,035 words comprising 26 articles were copy-edited. Barnstars awarded are here. July Drive: 34 of the 51 editors who took part in our July Backlog Elimination Drive copy-edited at least one article. They edited 276 articles and 683,633 words between them. Barnstars awarded are here. August Blitz: In our August Copy Editing Blitz, 13 of the 16 editors who signed up worked on at least one article. Between them, they copy-edited 79,608 words comprising 57 articles. Barnstars awarded are available here. September Drive: Sign up here for our month-long September Backlog Elimination Drive, which is now underway. Barnstars awarded will be posted here. Progress report: As of 14:29, 9 September 2023 (UTC), GOCE copy editors have processed 245 requests since 1 January. The backlog of tagged articles stands at 2,066. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators, Dhtwiki, Miniapolis and Zippybonzo. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.
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Question from ProfessorOfTheFederalRepublic (10:10, 7 September 2023)
I want to start creating contents on Wikipedia. How do I start? --ProfessorOfTheFederalRepublic (talk) 10:10, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hello ProfessorOfTheFederalRepublic, and welcome to Wikipedia! To get started editing, simply go to any article, click the edit button, make your desired changes, and then publish them! Help:Introduction will give you useful information relating to how to edit Wikipedia. Wikipedia:Task Center has a lot of different tasks to give you ideas on what you can do.
- If you are interested in writing a new article, though I would discourage that until you get several hundred edits under your belt first as it's quite cumbersone, Help:Your first article would be the place to go.
- Feel free to reach out with any further questions. —Sirdog (talk) 02:36, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Question from Gehna Shop (14:57, 5 September 2023)
how do i change my user name? --Gehna Shop (talk) 14:57, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hello Gehna Shop, and welcome to Wikipedia! I see that you recieved a notification from Melcous regarding your name possibly violating our username policy. To change your name you would go to Special:GlobalRenameRequest and fill out that form. You would specify that the reason is due to your name being associated with a company, group, organization, product, service, or website and that you wish to correct it for future editing.
- You can choose any name that you like so long as it does not breach any of the rules located at Wikipedia:Username policy.
- Feel free to reach out with any further questions. —Sirdog (talk) 02:33, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).
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- Following an RfC, TFAs will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
- A discussion at WP:VPP about revision deletion and oversight for dead names found that
[s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment
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- Special:Contributions now shows the user's local edit count and the account's creation date. (T324166)
- The SmallCat dispute case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in XfD have been reminded to be careful about forming
local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus
. Regular closers of XfD forums were also encouraged tonote when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful
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- Tech tip: The "Browse history interactively" banner shown at the top of Special:Diff can be used to easily look through a history, assemble composite diffs, or find out what archive something wound up in.
Question from LazyHero192 (07:49, 31 August 2023)
How to start editing in Wikipedia? --LazyHero192 (talk) 07:49, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
- Hello LazyHero192, and welcome to Wikipedia! I apologize for my late reply to your question. To get started editing, simply go to any article, click the edit button, make your desired changes, and then publish them! Help:Introduction will give you useful information relating to how to edit Wikipedia. Wikipedia:Task Center has a lot of different tasks to give you ideas on what you can do.
- If you are interested in writing a new article, though I would discourage that until you get several hundred edits under your belt first as it's quite cumbersone, Help:Your first article would be the place to go.
- Feel free to reach out with any further questions. —Sirdog (talk) 02:38, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Feedback request: Wikipedia proposals request for comment
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Question from Jamaicas1992 (07:33, 27 August 2023)
Welcome to Wikipedia --Jamaicas1992 (talk) 07:33, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
Question from TDphoko (13:44, 25 August 2023)
How do u create a new topic --TDphoko (talk) 13:44, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia, TDphoko! I assume you are wanting to create a page on Wikipedia? Information on doing so is available at Help:Your first article. Feel free to ask me to clarify anything there if you are confused.
- I would personally advise you avoid trying to create a new page, though, until you get several hundred edits under your belt. There are a lot of un-intuitive rules regarding new pages which may result in frustration for you, as simply reading them once tends to not be enough to adequately adhere to them. Wikipedia:Task Center has a list of activities that would be fitting for beginners. —Sirdog (talk) 17:17, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
Question from Badiki hillary on Lists of American universities and colleges (16:49, 21 August 2023)
Hello sir how can I write a request to enter the college in Washington pleases --Badiki hillary (talk) 16:49, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia, Badiki hillary! I assume you mean that you want to suggest a college be added to the list? Note that the page in question is a list of lists for universities and colleges, not a list for individual universities or colleges. To add a particular institution, you would click the appropriate link at Lists of American universities and colleges first. You can then either add it yourself or make an edit request by creating a new topic, placing the text
{{SPER}}
at the top, and then placing the name of the institution below it. Feel free to ask me any further questions if you are confused. —Sirdog (talk) 03:53, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
Questions regarding the deletion of Veloren page
- Courtesy link: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Veloren (2nd nomination)
I have a few questions regarding this. My first issue is that Veloren is a comparatively small scale game and therefore it does not have very large coverage as it is not even backed by a large organization such as GNU or some others. Being relatively small on one hand creates a problem such as described by you. However there are some good points to it such as, it is the best example of (perhaps, only) a 3D open world voxel based RPG game and it's one of its kind and also has a large userbase now (around 10000). My argument here is not to really fight the deletion but I understand that rules are the pillarstone in this case. Games like Veloren really need coverage however due to not being part of a AAA gaming company or a large org, it can not easily get any coverage. Another reason might be that it has still not reached 1.0 as heavy development is still going on at the moment. Perhaps, with a wiki page, the coverage might increase. What's your suggestion on this? Remember that this is fully open source and Libre and also self-hostable so idealogically Wikimedia should also support it as the latter also promotes open knowledge. PRIYANSHU 06:50, 18 August 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Priyanshu1rai (talk • contribs)
- I appreciate you reaching out, Priyanshu1rai, and I want to be the first to say that I hope that the deletion discussion does not dissuade you. The template I left on your talk page was very artificial, and you would have been better served with a more personally crafted message. The deletion of content you contribute to does not in any way reflect whether or not the project wishes for you to continue to contribute. I have nothing against you by nominating it for deletion; I am simply upholding established policy for what I believe is the betterment of Wikipedia.
- While I agree that Wikimedia would support this project ideologically, that doesn't necessarily mean Wikipedia is interested in hosting content about it. The Wikimedia Movement is comprised of various communities organized by language, with this being the English Wikipedia. Each community self-governs their own project, with some exceptions (such as all contributors - regardless of language - being beholden to the Terms of Use). The English Wikipedia has set very high standards for inclusion due to it's size, age, and public outreach.
- The English Wikipedia project is not interested in, nor designed to, assist with giving a project or person exposure. It exists to create a quality encyclopedia of topics which already have sufficient notoriety and coverage, as old-fashion book encyclopedias used to do (and I suppose still do?) While Wikipedia is in a position to give exposure itself, this project is very much against it, and that's me putting it mildly. I've observed long-standing editors I consider to be quite polite most of the time become very terse and no-nonsense when dealing with what they perceive to be a conflict of interest, undisclosed paid editing, or otherwise a contributor editing in a promotional manner. This harshness is due to elaborate abuse and drama generated by corporations trying to violate what Wikipedia is not, our neutrality policy, and our conflict of interest policy.
- My suggestion would be to vote at the deletion discussion based on what you feel is right, though understand that a Keep arguement that isn't based in policy will be given less weight by a reviewing administrator than one that is. If you desire to give this project more coverage, I'd advise using avenues that aren't Wikipedia to do so. If you continue to try, you'll simply be disappointed and receive harsh pushback, and possibly even be blocked if abusive or disruptive in nature. I've never wanted to actively advocate for a project before, so I'm afraid I'm not all that informed on where you could do this. Perhaps raise awareness on social media and/or create content about it?
- As a side note, unlike social media platforms, when you write content on an internal page - such as this talk page - you have to manually tell the website to sign your post with your name. This is accomplished by doing
~~~~
. A bot has been doing so for you up until now. Please sign your posts yourself moving forward. - I hope my elaborate book above has helped you. I'm always open to further conversation or questions, should you have any. —Sirdog (talk) 07:21, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – August 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2023).
Interface administrator changes
- The tag filter on Special:NewPages and revision history pages can now be inverted. This allows hiding edits made by automated tools. (T334338)
- Special:BlockedExternalDomains is a new tool that allows easier blocking of plain domains (and their subdomains). This is more easily searchable and is faster for the software to use than the existing MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. It does not support regex (for complex cases), URL path-matching, or the MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. (T337431)
- The arbitration cases named Scottywong and AlisonW closed 10 July and 16 July respectively.
- The SmallCat dispute arbitration case is in the workshop phase.
Question from Rainmaker rebel (01:11, 8 August 2023)
Hi, I want to get involved in fighting vandalism and was wondering if you had any tips on how to find it quickly. --Rainmaker rebel (talk) 01:11, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia, Rainmaker rebel! Fighting vandalism is a fantastic way to begin your wiki career, and it's fairly simple.
- I would first recommend enabling Twinkle, a specific tool that a lot of editors use for various tasks. This tool is important for 2 things. First, it allows you to use a client-side version of rollback, which will allow you to revert all edits made by a vandal in a row - rather than having to undo all of them manually. Second, it will give you the tools to warn vandals to cease their behavior, which is required when reverting vandalism. This way you can later report the vandal to the noticeboard to report vandals to Wikipedia administrators and easily have them blocked from editing.
- Note that on Wikipedia we have a very specific term for a vandal. Specifically, it's "editing (or other behavior) deliberately intended to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose, which is to create a free encyclopedia, in a variety of languages, presenting the sum of all human knowledge." As a vandalism fighter you will need to be able to differentiate between edits which are harmful, but were in good faith or were tests of our software, and edits made for the explicit intent of defacing the project.
- You can find a lot more resources on fighting vandalism at our Counter-Vandalism Unit. Should you be interested enough, you could even enroll in the CVU Academy, where an experienced editor will dedicate time to teaching you how to fight and spot vandalism.
- Feel free to reach out if you have any other questions. Cheers! —Sirdog (talk) 20:30, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
- Wow,thanks for all that info it's really appreciated. Rainmaker rebel (talk) 22:28, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
Question from Skan23 (17:57, 3 August 2023)
Hi Sirdog, thank you for your mentorship. I look forward to joining the community of contributors. --Skan23 (talk) 17:57, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
- It isn't a problem at all, Skan23! Feel free to stop by if you have any questions . —Sirdog (talk) 19:25, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
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Question from Haroldfrom (15:49, 17 July 2023)
Hey, what is the best page to edit on Indian Mordern History --Haroldfrom (talk) 15:49, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, Haroldfrom! I'd say the obvious answer is History of India, though you'll need to become autoconfirmed for that by making 5 more edits and waiting until 21 July 2023 since it's protected from editing. You could also check out Category:History of India for a lot of other related pages to edit. Cheers! —Sirdog (talk) 21:29, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
Question from TopguyCb (19:22, 16 July 2023)
How do I upload biography on Wikipedia --TopguyCb (talk) 19:22, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
- Hello TopguyCb, and welcome to Wikipedia! A biography can't be uploaded in the traditional sense of you uploading a physical file, but you can create the article and potentially past the contents there. Information about creating your first live article is available at Help:Your first article.
- I would highly advise that you try assisting in other areas of the website first, however. Wikipedia has very high standards for a live article which are quite unintuitive to newcomers. You may run into disappointment or embarrassment as, if your article doesn't meet Wikipedia's standards, other editors may start a public discussion to delete it. I would encourage you to create a page in your own user space (pages underneath your username that you can use for any Wikipedia-related purpose) with the desired biography's draft first. Then, you can ask editors, such as myself or at the Wikipedia:Teahouse, for assistance.
- To do this, I would go to this red link and creating the page: User:TopguyCb/Biography. I would encourage bookmarking it as well, so you don't lose it.
- For ideas on how to help Wikipedia in other ways, check out the Wikipedia:Task Center. I'd advise doing any task that interests you that is marked as "Suitable for all editors".
- Feel free to ask any other questions you may have, I'm happy to help! —Sirdog (talk) 22:20, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – July 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2023).
- Contributions to the English Wikipedia are now released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License (CC BY-SA 4.0) license instead of CC BY-SA 3.0. Contributions are still also released under the GFDL license.
- Discussion is open regarding a proposed global policy regarding third-party resources. Third-party resources are computer resources that reside outside of Wikimedia production websites.
- Two arbitration cases are currently open. Proposed decisions are expected 5 July 2023 for the Scottywong case and 9 July 2023 for the AlisonW case.
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Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.
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Question from Farmer Joe Kids Tv (18:51, 12 June 2023)
Hi my name is Joe Byrne. I live in Dublin Ireland. I set up a YouTube page Farmer Joe Kids Tv. I want to set up a Wikipedia page.
Kind Regards. Joe Byrne AKA Farmer Joe. --Farmer Joe Kids Tv (talk) 18:51, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
Guild of Copy Editors June 2023 Newsletter
Guild of Copy Editors June 2023 Newsletter
Hello and welcome to the June 2023 newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since March. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. Election news: Fancy helping out at the Guild? Nominations for our half-yearly Election of Coordinators are open until 23:59 on 15 June (UTC)*. Starting immediately after, the voting phase will run until 23:59 on 30 June. All Wikipedians in good standing are eligible and self-nominations are welcomed; it's your Guild and it doesn't organize itself! Blitz: Of the 17 editors who signed up for our April Copy Editing Blitz, nine editors completed at least one copy-edit. Between them, they copy-edited 24 articles totaling 53,393 words. Barnstars awarded are here. Drive: 51 editors signed up for the month-long May Backlog Elimination Drive, and 31 copy-edited at least one article. 180 articles were copy-edited. Barnstars awarded are posted here. Blitz: Sign up here for our week-long June Copy Editing Blitz, which runs from 11 to 17 June. Barnstars awarded will be posted here. Progress report: As of 03:09 on 6 June 2023, GOCE copyeditors have processed 91 requests since 1 January and the backlog stands at 1,887 articles. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Baffle gab1978, Dhtwiki, Miniapolis and Zippybongo. *All times and dates in this newsletter are in UTC, and may significantly vary from your local time. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.
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Administrators' newsletter – June 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2023).
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- Following an RfC, editors indefinitely site-banned by community consensus will now have all rights, including sysop, removed.
- As a part of the Wikimedia Foundation's IP Masking project, a new policy has been created that governs the access to temporary account IP addresses. An associated FAQ has been created and individual communities can increase the requirements to view temporary account IP addresses.
- Bot operators and tool maintainers should schedule time in the coming months to test and update their tools for the effects of IP masking. IP masking will not be deployed to any content wiki until at least October 2023 and is unlikely to be deployed to the English Wikipedia until some time in 2024.
- The arbitration case World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been closed. The topic area of Polish history during World War II (1933-1945) and the history of Jews in Poland is subject to a "reliable source consensus-required" contentious topic restriction.
- Following a community referendum, the arbitration policy has been modified to remove the ability for users to appeal remedies to Jimbo Wales.
Question from Vincente1974 (09:14, 5 June 2023)
Hello I noticed there is a dead link in an article. What is the correct approach, should I delete the link or wait till a suitable replacement can be found? --Vincente1974 (talk) 09:14, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
Adam Neumann
Hi Sirdog. I wonder if you might take a look at the edit request I posted on behalf of Adam Neumann, found here: Talk:Adam_Neumann#The_Spectator_retraction. It is a simple update to the page, with a source. Thanks so much, Carlos for Neumann (talk) 11:46, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- I have responded to the edit request . —Sirdog (talk) 03:10, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Sirdog. Thanks again for adding the paragraph about the Spectator defamation and retraction. In response to your invitation to "suggest corrections" I suggested some details which add context and information about the incident, posted here:Talk:Adam_Neumann#The_Spectator_retraction. Can you kindly consider adding those details? Much appreciated, Carlos for Neumann (talk) 19:57, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, Carlos for Neumann. An objection to your desired edit has been raised by editor Horse Eye's Back. I'd like to see you attempt to alleviate their concern as, while they weren't necessarily the most polite, I believe their concern is valid. —Sirdog (talk) 19:10, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Sirdog. I guess you are right, that Horse Eye's Back's response threw me off a bit, but the best way to proceed is to discuss his concerns directly with him. I just posted my response, which I hope successfully addresses those concerns. I would be happy if you would join in on the discussion. Carlos for Neumann (talk) 08:43, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, Carlos for Neumann. An objection to your desired edit has been raised by editor Horse Eye's Back. I'd like to see you attempt to alleviate their concern as, while they weren't necessarily the most polite, I believe their concern is valid. —Sirdog (talk) 19:10, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Sirdog. Thanks again for adding the paragraph about the Spectator defamation and retraction. In response to your invitation to "suggest corrections" I suggested some details which add context and information about the incident, posted here:Talk:Adam_Neumann#The_Spectator_retraction. Can you kindly consider adding those details? Much appreciated, Carlos for Neumann (talk) 19:57, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Sirdog. I posted at Talk:Adam_Neumann#The_Spectator_retraction, pinging HorseEye’sBack, but he has not responded to my message. What do you suggest I do next? Thanks, Carlos for Neumann (talk) 09:59, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Question from Oluwatobi Omolewa (16:36, 18 September 2023)
Hello, pls how do I add a write up to a section of an article on Wikipedia? --Oluwatobi Omolewa (talk) 16:36, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hello Oluwatobi Omolewa, and welcome to Wikipedia! Help:Introduction is a good place to learn the basics of editing. Feel free to ask here or at the Wikipedia:Teahouse if you have specific questions after perusing that. If it's your desire to write up a section for a particular article, you may want to review the following policies:
- —Sirdog (talk) 19:15, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
Question from 5 Fires (21:45, 22 September 2023)
How do I build a page so when people look up my name 5 Fires it shows my info? --5 Fires (talk) 21:45, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hello 5 Fires, and welcome to Wikipedia. Articles on Wikipedia must meet our notability criteria, so for an article to be created about you there must be multiple independent and reliable sources that have significant coverage written about you. Otherwise, an article may not be created about you. Furthermore, presuming you are indeed the singer, our conflict of interest policy demands you disclose that you have such a conflict with articles or content relating to yourself, and you are highly advised against editing or creating any page pertaining to you. Wikipedia does this to maintain neutrality in its writing. Odds are - even if done in good faith - you cannot write about yourself in as neutral a tone as is demanded by our policies.
- Assuming you are cognizant and fully complaint with the above information, the page Help:Your first article can help you get started. I would advise making use of the articles for creation process. Not doing so when writing about yourself is looked down upon very strongly and will most likely result in frustration on your part and comments from agitated editors.
- Feel free to ask further questions here (thought my response times may vary) or at Wikipedia:Teahouse, a venue designed for new editors to get answers from experienced ones. Cheers! —Sirdog (talk) 02:50, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
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Question from Ovo.Je.Istina (17:33, 27 September 2023)
Hello, thank you for being my mentor. Is there a way to post the contents of an old history book? The book is from 1900 and out of copyright. --Ovo.Je.Istina (talk) 17:33, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hello Ovo.Je.Istina, and welcome to Wikipedia! Presuming your desire is to simply dump the contents of this book onto the internet, the English Wikipedia wouldn't be the appropriate place for that. Perhaps you'd want to take a look at Wikibooks? —Sirdog (talk) 19:12, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- THank you. I did not know about that site. Ovo.Je.Istina (talk) 21:13, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- No problem! —Sirdog (talk) 02:23, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
- THank you. I did not know about that site. Ovo.Je.Istina (talk) 21:13, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
Question from Rmadrigal3 (17:16, 29 September 2023)
what do i do when im editing my high schools page with relevant and true information that is literally being given to me by the school administration and information that i personally know because i am the social media intern of Pacifica high school and people keep removing it even thought its highly relevant information? --Rmadrigal3 (talk) 17:16, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hello Rmadrigal3, and welcome to Wikipedia! I'm sorry that you have become frustrated while trying to edit Pacifica High School (Oxnard, California). One very important thing to understand is that Wikipedia requires reliable sources be provided for all information written in an article. Even if something is true, Wikipedia requires it be verifiable - without exception - for it to be in an article. Your personal knowledge, or the knowledge of the school administration, may not be used as a source of information whilst editing Wikipedia.
- All information you wish to change or update must come from a source such as the school's official website (with caveats) or, more preferably, a source independent of the school such as a local news agency.
- Furthermore, your editing must fall in line with all of our policies and guidelines. This includes writing from a neutral point of view and that collaboration with other editors - which Wikipedia calls consensus building - is non-optional. Part of this is that Wikipedia requires that if any editor objects to the inclusion of content policy states the onus is on the person wishing to add it to achieve the consensus to include it. If you find yourself in a stalemate on the talk page, you can make use of dispute resolution venues to try and achieve it. Note that a stalemate is the lack of consensus after discussion, and not simply that you find the consensus to not be in your favor.
- Feel free to reach out with further questions . —Sirdog (talk) 19:08, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
Question from Promnewyork (06:05, 3 October 2023)
Hello, I have an article to publish. How do I go about it? --Promnewyork (talk) 06:05, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hello Promnewyork, welcome to Wikipedia. Help:Your first article would be the place to go. I would advise against starting with a new article so early into your editing career, though, as there are a lot of guidelines and restrictions in relation to creating a fresh new article. Failure to adhere to them could result in editors requesting it's deletion or other actions which may be discouraging.
- Relevant policies would be:
- Wikipedia:Reliable sources
- Wikipedia:Independent sources
- Wikipedia:Notability (this is the litmus test that determines if an article can be on the website at all, even if all other policies are followed, and is generally the hardest to learn from the get-go)
- Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not
- Wikipedia:Neutral point of view
- ... among others.
- I always advise new editors to start with editing existing articles, counter-vandalism, and other less advanced tasks. Feel free to ask me questions anytime (though my response time may be slow, as you can see here lol) or at the Teahouse, a venue with faster response times which is dedicated to new editors asking experienced ones questions.
- Cheers! —Sirdog (talk) 11:27, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2023).
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- An RfC is open regarding amending the paid-contribution disclosure policy to add the following text:
Any administrator soliciting clients for paid Wikipedia-related consulting or advising services not covered by other paid-contribution rules must disclose all clients on their userpage.
- Administrators can now choose to add the user's user page to their watchlist when changing the usergroups for a user. This works both via Special:UserRights and via the API. (T272294)
- The 2023 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process has concluded with the appointment of one new CheckUser.
- Self-nominations for the electoral commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections opens on 2 October and closes on 8 October.
Question from Kandi Ricciardi on User:Kandi Ricciardi (17:51, 7 October 2023)
Hi, I am attempting to create my user page which keeps being deleted. Can you give some insight to what should be included on a user page ?? --Kandi Ricciardi (talk) 17:51, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- Kandi Ricciardi, welcome to Wikipedia. It appears the Wikipedia administrator named Fastily has deleted your user page because you are using Wikipedia functionally as a web hosting service, or social media platform, when that is not what this website is allowed to be used for. See WP:NOT for more relevant information (and WP:NOTFB in relation to your specific case).
- Acceptable material would be information relating to the topic areas you would be interested in editing or general information about yourself. My own user page, along with Fastily's, are good examples. I would advise you avoid doing so until you have a track record of editing articles, though, as it may be seen negatively by other editors if you continue to focus on your user page after being deleted for inappropriate use. —Sirdog (talk) 11:20, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Question from Bounty Friday on Help:Introduction to editing with Wiki Markup/1 (11:40, 8 October 2023)
How can I set my pictures --Bounty Friday (talk) 11:40, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- Bounty Friday, welcome to Wikipedia! I'm not quite sure I understand your question? Wikipedia isn't like a traditional social media platform in that editors have avatars. You could place a picture at your userpage (User:Bounty Friday), though use of images is dictated by our image use policy. —Sirdog (talk) 11:20, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Question from SUNDAY EFFIONG BASSEY (10:55, 9 October 2023)
Hello good morning sir, what is your take about President Bola Ahmed Tinubu adding "ADEGUNLE" to his name --SUNDAY EFFIONG BASSEY (talk) 10:55, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- SUNDAY EFFIONG BASSEY, I have no opinion on the matter. Please only communicate with me if it relates to editing Wikipedia. —Sirdog (talk) 11:20, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Question from SUNDAY EFFIONG BASSEY (11:10, 9 October 2023)
Hello How can i upload my picture and bio-data on my page? --SUNDAY EFFIONG BASSEY (talk) 11:10, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a social media platform. Your user page has a certain degree of latitude on what you put on it, but it should be for the purpose of communicating with other editors what your interests are in relation to your membership of editing the website. It is advised that you not provide bio-data so as to protect your own privacy, and depending on how it's presented it may be removed speedily by an administrator. The same goes with your picture, though you also need to be aware of the image use policy and the copyright implications of doing so. —Sirdog (talk) 11:20, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Question from Mcguiredw (01:35, 11 October 2023)
There is an error right at the beginning of an article on the moon.... but the page says it is semi- protected so I could not change it. The first sentence in paragraph two is wrong... the moon has a mass only 1.2% of the earths... not one sixth as stated. --Mcguiredw (talk) 01:35, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hello Mcguiredw, and welcome to Wikipedia! The Moon is indeed currently semi-protected, which means only accounts which have 10 edits and are 3 days old can edit it. You have 2 options, currently. You can make 10 total edits anywhere on Wikipedia (presuming they are legitimate) and wait the additional 2 days. Or, you can attempt to edit the page again, and in the message explaining why you can't there is a big blue button that says "
Submit an edit request
". From there, you are given instructions to submit a request that another editor with sufficient permissions make the edit for you. - Note that you'll have to provide a reliable source which cites that the moon's mass is 1.2% of Earth's and also submit what you want the new text to be verbatim. Otherwise, the request may be rejected.
- Cheers! —Sirdog (talk) 06:17, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hmm. The Wikipedia sentence itself does not mention a source- though it is common knowledge over the last few hundred years. The Wikipedia article itself EVEN STATES the 1.2% FACT FURTHER DOWN IN THE ARTICLE and has numbers that show the mass of the moon as .0123 of the earth - so the RELIABLE SOURCE IS THE ARTICLE ITSELF. The first statement is obviously a typo (the author probably meant to say the moons 1/6th the Earths diameter). Not sure why Wikipedia has trouble correcting an obvious mistake when the article itself states the correct information further into the article. Note that it will not let me edit the page and I do not get an option to Submit an Edit Request... I may be doing something wrong. Regardless it is not worth my effort to get 10 edits when a simple obvious mistake can't even be corrected. Mcguiredw (talk) 13:31, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- I'm sorry you are frustrated, Mcguiredw. Please note that Wikipedia is edited by a (albeit large) group of volunteer editors and is not maintained by professional curators. It's not that Wikipedia won't, it's that no one with sufficient permissions has spotted the error and/or desired to fix it (presuming it is an error; I am not interested enough in the topic to investigate myself). Presuming you regain interest, to submit the edit request, you would click on the button that says "
View source
" at the Moon article and then click the blue button I mentioned above. I really should've have mentioned that in my initial reply, and that fault lies with me. I've tested it while logged out and everything appears to be working. - Also, simply because information is stated in an article doesn't mean it's correct. Again, Wikipedia is edited by volunteers, so we cannot assume that any edit made - unless attributed to a source - has any backing. Now, if there is a citation in the article which supports it, then you'd just use that source (or if making an edit request tell reviewing editors which source already present is supporting the edit). —Sirdog (talk) 13:49, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- The article itself states the correct facts further down in the article and references multiple sources. The sentence in question has no references and is wrong. Thats my point- it should not be so hard to fix a mistake when an article has the correct information and references, but the incorrect sentence has no sources but Wikipedia says THATS OK- we will leave it in- the ten seconds for us to investigate and change is too much effort. If Wikipedia does not deem a simple factual error worthy of taking 10 seconds to verify and fix, I probably can't help. Mcguiredw (talk) 14:34, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- I see. Well, the instructions on how to do it will remain available should it annoy you enough to learn how to fix it yourself. —Sirdog (talk) 03:56, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- The article itself states the correct facts further down in the article and references multiple sources. The sentence in question has no references and is wrong. Thats my point- it should not be so hard to fix a mistake when an article has the correct information and references, but the incorrect sentence has no sources but Wikipedia says THATS OK- we will leave it in- the ten seconds for us to investigate and change is too much effort. If Wikipedia does not deem a simple factual error worthy of taking 10 seconds to verify and fix, I probably can't help. Mcguiredw (talk) 14:34, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- I'm sorry you are frustrated, Mcguiredw. Please note that Wikipedia is edited by a (albeit large) group of volunteer editors and is not maintained by professional curators. It's not that Wikipedia won't, it's that no one with sufficient permissions has spotted the error and/or desired to fix it (presuming it is an error; I am not interested enough in the topic to investigate myself). Presuming you regain interest, to submit the edit request, you would click on the button that says "
- Hmm. The Wikipedia sentence itself does not mention a source- though it is common knowledge over the last few hundred years. The Wikipedia article itself EVEN STATES the 1.2% FACT FURTHER DOWN IN THE ARTICLE and has numbers that show the mass of the moon as .0123 of the earth - so the RELIABLE SOURCE IS THE ARTICLE ITSELF. The first statement is obviously a typo (the author probably meant to say the moons 1/6th the Earths diameter). Not sure why Wikipedia has trouble correcting an obvious mistake when the article itself states the correct information further into the article. Note that it will not let me edit the page and I do not get an option to Submit an Edit Request... I may be doing something wrong. Regardless it is not worth my effort to get 10 edits when a simple obvious mistake can't even be corrected. Mcguiredw (talk) 13:31, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
Question from Joseph E. Edumogiren (09:05, 11 October 2023)
How do I add historical information on Wikipedia,pls. --Joseph E. Edumogiren (talk) 09:05, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia, Joseph E. Edumogiren! To add historical information you would simply edit the article in question and provide independent and reliable sources which support any information you provide. For help on how to reference your sources, you can check out Help:Referencing for beginners. Cheers! —Sirdog (talk) 22:21, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
Question from Sarala lawaju (16:58, 12 October 2023)
How to post article --Sarala lawaju (talk) 16:58, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia, Sarala lawaju! I would advise against trying to create a new article so early into your wiki-editing career. New articles require intimate knowledge of a large set of policies, many of which are not intuitive to understand. Wikipedia:Notability is arguably the most important. Your desired article topic must be notable enough, otherwise, no matter how well written it is, the topic is ineligible for an article and may be subject to deletion at any time. I'd implore you to try out other tasks first. A list of good ideas can be found at Wikipedia:Task Center.
- If you are deadset on creating an article, Help:Your first article would be the page you want to read. You'll also want to familiarize yourself with the following policies at a minimum:
- Reliable sources
- Independent sources
- Biographies of living persons (if your desired topic is about a person currently alive)
- Neutral point of view
- What Wikipedia is not
- I'd advise using the Wikipedia:Articles for creation process. This way an experienced editor will take a look at your work and, if it isn't up to snuff to go "live" - as it were - they'll decline it and give useful feedback. Wikipedia:Teahouse is another place to ask questions and get help as well. —Sirdog (talk) 22:21, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
Question from Epoch5040 (16:02, 14 October 2023)
Hello, source [10] for Electricity and Magnetism (Book) appears to be behind a paywall on the website on which it is cited (https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00107514.2013.836250?needAccess=true) and it does not appear to be in print or any library I can find. Is that allowed for citations because most of the other citations are to freely available websites? --Epoch5040 (talk) 16:02, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia, Epoch5040! That's a really good question to be asking. While it is true an overwhelming majority of sources on Wikipedia are freely accessible, paywalled sources are treated equivalently to any other source, and so are allowed to be used in articles. If you have reason to suspect such a source, you can make a post at the resource exchange to request for someone to make the source in question available to you.
- There are a variety of procedural activities on Wikipedia that tend to require an editor review sources (such as new page patrollers), and for editors who need to review sources that they cannot access, they tend to either drop the activity since they can't complete it, ask for assistance in reviewing it, or give the benefit of the doubt and assume it's solid (though extraordinary claims or claims relating to articles regarding people who are still alive are a different story and receive more scrutiny). —Sirdog (talk) 05:26, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for the clarification. This may sound strange, but the the website seems to deactivate the paywall when I use campus Wi-Fi, but turns it back on when not on campus. Also, I reviewed the terms of service for this particular source and it is against them to provide the material that is behind the paywall to people who would not have access otherwise, meaning it isn’t allowed on the resource exchange (if not by the official Wikipedia rules then by the rules of the website). I’ll try to stay clear of paywalled sources in the future since they seem to be a hassle to deal with. I actually have another question. Is it okay to use sources that haven’t been listed on the page for establishing whether a source is reputable or not. In that case should I submit it to the forums about the topic? I thought of it, but the sources are relatively small and I don’t know if anyone would pay attention to them or evaluate them if they saw the forum post. Epoch5040 (talk) 05:49, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- I'll first note that it appears you edited while logged out of your account Epoch5040, and so your IP address has been revealed. If you are interested in keeping it private, you can submit a request to the oversight team to remove it from all public access and records. If the instructions are confusing, you can just reply to this message while logged in indicating a desire for me to do so on your behalf.
- Back to your question... I apologize, but I am slightly confused by the question. A source's reputability, which we call reliability, is determined based on evaluating it independently on a variety of factors - such as to see if they have editorial standards for fact checking and the sort, among other criteria. We wouldn't use a source A to show that a source B is reliable and has merit, at least, not traditionally. —Sirdog (talk) 06:02, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- I did not realize that I was logged out when I responded. Thank you for noticing and letting me know. I didn't think to check because most websites don't let you post on them unless you are signed in and ususally when I open Wikipedia it signs me in automatically. The oversight page for supression says to email them, but I'm not sure how to direct them to the post. I would really apreciate it if you could submit the request for me. Also, I apologize for the confusion in my question. When I said "the page for establishing whether a source is reputable or not" I meant the Wikipedia:Reliable sources page, though in hindsight I assume that lost of books and scientific papers that aren't listed on there have been used. I just thought that perhaps less popular sites for news/reporting have less evidence to show that they are valid sources since they have not been analyzed for authenticity before, but are ususally the ones posting about smaller topics so they are usually used for 'stub' articles (at least as far as I can tell). Epoch5040 (talk) 17:24, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- I acidentally provided the wrong link. The link I mean to send was this one: Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. Upon reading more of the page they do have guidelines on what to do in the case that your source is not listed which I suppose I missed part of when I visited the page the first time. Sorry for bothering you with the question instead of reading the page more in-depth. I will try to use the available resources on the wiki to answer my questions before coming to you, though I am genuinely unsure of how to go through the obfuscation process and am vey greatful for your offer to send in a request for me. Epoch5040 (talk) 22:47, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- Don't feel bad about asking me stuff, Epoch5040! While you should try to find the answer on your own, if you fail to do so - or the resource confuses you - that is an entirely valid reason to ask an experienced editor for assistance. If I was bothered by questions, even those which may have obvious answers, I wouldn't be a mentor! You can also always go the Teahouse should you ever feel bad about coming to me, however.
- I went ahead and submitted a request to the oversight team and Primefac has removed your IP address from any public access. For the future, a simple and effective way to submit such requests is by sending an email to
oversight-en-wp@wikipedia.org
, though ensure the material you are reporting meets the criteria for suppression. —Sirdog (talk) 21:13, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- I acidentally provided the wrong link. The link I mean to send was this one: Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. Upon reading more of the page they do have guidelines on what to do in the case that your source is not listed which I suppose I missed part of when I visited the page the first time. Sorry for bothering you with the question instead of reading the page more in-depth. I will try to use the available resources on the wiki to answer my questions before coming to you, though I am genuinely unsure of how to go through the obfuscation process and am vey greatful for your offer to send in a request for me. Epoch5040 (talk) 22:47, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- I did not realize that I was logged out when I responded. Thank you for noticing and letting me know. I didn't think to check because most websites don't let you post on them unless you are signed in and ususally when I open Wikipedia it signs me in automatically. The oversight page for supression says to email them, but I'm not sure how to direct them to the post. I would really apreciate it if you could submit the request for me. Also, I apologize for the confusion in my question. When I said "the page for establishing whether a source is reputable or not" I meant the Wikipedia:Reliable sources page, though in hindsight I assume that lost of books and scientific papers that aren't listed on there have been used. I just thought that perhaps less popular sites for news/reporting have less evidence to show that they are valid sources since they have not been analyzed for authenticity before, but are ususally the ones posting about smaller topics so they are usually used for 'stub' articles (at least as far as I can tell). Epoch5040 (talk) 17:24, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for the clarification. This may sound strange, but the the website seems to deactivate the paywall when I use campus Wi-Fi, but turns it back on when not on campus. Also, I reviewed the terms of service for this particular source and it is against them to provide the material that is behind the paywall to people who would not have access otherwise, meaning it isn’t allowed on the resource exchange (if not by the official Wikipedia rules then by the rules of the website). I’ll try to stay clear of paywalled sources in the future since they seem to be a hassle to deal with. I actually have another question. Is it okay to use sources that haven’t been listed on the page for establishing whether a source is reputable or not. In that case should I submit it to the forums about the topic? I thought of it, but the sources are relatively small and I don’t know if anyone would pay attention to them or evaluate them if they saw the forum post. Epoch5040 (talk) 05:49, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
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Question from Fongbullet (12:54, 19 October 2023)
hello, how do you create a football jersey pattern and upload to wikipedia and assign to the football team ? thanks --Fongbullet (talk) 12:55, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia, Fongbullet! I wish I could be of help, but I don't rightly know. Sports is not a subject area that interests me, unfortunately. You may find better luck getting an answer posting at WikiProject Football (or WikiProject American football, depending on what you mean) or the Teahouse. —Sirdog (talk) 02:42, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Question from Adam Kontellis (11:25, 20 October 2023)
Hello SirDog, I would very much love for my autobiography to be published. Much love, Keep yourself Safe. --Adam Kontellis (talk) 11:25, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia, Adam Kontellis. You appear to have a grave misunderstanding of what the purpose of Wikipedia is. It is an encyclopedia, not a place to submit a typical biography of any kind. As has been cited on your talk page, Wikipedia is not a platform to promote a particular point of view, person, or organization. A core pillar of Wikipedia is that content is written from a neutral point of view and that all content is verifiable to third party reliable sources. The current state of Draft:Adam Kontellis fails to meet any of these standards or pillars. Before you can even begin writing you need to evaluate if you are notable by the standards of Wikipedia, otherwise - regardless of how well you write and follow our guidelines - you may simply not have an article. You should also abstain from doing any of the writing yourself, as you have a serious conflict of interest with material that relates to you.
- I would suggest you immediately cease all attempts to submit a biography of yourself and work on other aspects of Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:Task Center. —Sirdog (talk) 03:18, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
Question from Downfall12 (17:22, 20 October 2023)
Hi, I would like to create a new post. There is a well known Wings of Fire YouTuber, who is not on Wikipedia. How do I create one?
-Downfall12 --Downfall12 (talk) 17:22, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia, Downfall12! Making a new article is a fairly advanced tasked for beginners of Wikipedia. There are a lot of complex rules that, if not followed, will result in swift article deletion. These are really hard to grasp at the start without having some experience in how other areas of the site works. It isn't impossible, you'll just have a lot of bumps in the road. If you are interested in trying out other tasks, check out Wikipedia:Task Center.
- If you are really motivated to write about Wings of Fire, the first thing you should do is review our notability policy. In order for a subject to warrant an article, they must have multiple independent and reliable sources which provide significant coverage of the subject. This is a high standard, one which many YouTubers struggle with. For example, other YouTubers covering Wings of Fire does not qualify as all YouTube channels (with some exceptions) are self-published sources, thus Wikipedia disqualifies them as supporting notability. Subscriber count, following on social media, and other statistics which intuitively support an influencer's relevance are all entirely irrelevant to Wikipedia in relation to them getting an article. The best chance of success comes from independent news organizations covering them.
- Presuming you think Wings of Fire has a decent shot, I'd advise doing it through our Wikipedia:Articles for creation process. Here you will write a draft of the article to the best of your ability and then submit it for review by experienced editors. They will either accept the draft, and make it a proper article, or decline it and provide feedback on what policies it falls short of meeting.
- Feel free to ask any further questions here or at the Teahouse. —Sirdog (talk) 03:33, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
Question from Lasseter family winery (19:01, 25 October 2023)
Hi there! Is it possible to simply cut/paste and entire new wiki entry since the existing text is entirely obsolete? I've got the visual editor instructions but thought I'd ask you about this before hunting around to see if it's possible. --Lasseter family winery (talk) 19:01, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
Question from Lasseter family winery (19:28, 25 October 2023)
Hi Sirdog,
We just received an error message about my edit - it's a total replacement of the page since none of the existing info was accurate (no one ever attended to the page...). We have to cite references but have no clue what would be considered a verifiable reference. We are stating simple verifiable facts about the winery that any person could verify - location, wines produced, varietals grown, etc. Can you help? --Lasseter family winery (talk) 19:28, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia, Lasseter family winery. I firstly wish you well in getting your name changed after your recent block.
- Firstly, understand that Wikipedia is not a promotional platform. Wikipedia articles are required to be written from a neutral point of view and not praise or disparage the subject. We report in a neutral way what sources say. Providing an exhaustive list of items the winery sells, for example, would be inappropriate. Wikipedia does not house price lists. The goal of an article on the winery is to provide encyclopedic information about it. When was it established, it's history, major events that have involved it, and the likes.
- In terms of sourcing, the sourcing simples need to reliably verify all information within the article. For example, to reference the winery's location, a citation to the official website listing the location would be sufficient. Most of the references, however, should lead to reliable sources which means they are independent from the winery and have a reputation for fact checking (or, to a reasonable person, appear to have processes in place to do so). These are usually news organizations and the like. Wikipedia also prioritizes secondary sources over primary (the winery's website would be primary in this instance).
- If or when you are unblocked, feel free to ask further questions. —Sirdog (talk) 04:29, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
Question from DisruptX (09:01, 26 October 2023)
Hi, I want to create a company page info in wikipedia. what are the summary requirements? --DisruptX (talk) 09:01, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia, DisruptX. The short answer, really, is that you don't. Any article about an organization must meet our notability criteria, which in general terms means it needs coverage from a wide array of organizations that are completely unrelated to it. Press releases or anything of the sort would not qualify. Articles about organizations are made in the context of an encyclopedia, and not as a means of promoting the organization or simply documenting that it exists.
- Further note that if you are closely tied to, employed by, or are related to the company in question you must disclose your conflict of interest and you are encouraged as strongly as possible to not edit or create the article directly. You would request edits to an existing page or you can draft the page and then request an editor review it to publish. If you are paid as part of your duties to edit Wikipedia, you must disclose who is paying you, who is requesting the edits in question (presuming there is a difference), and any other relevant role or relationship you may have. Failure to disclose paid editing is a violation of the Wikimedia Terms of Use.
- Feel free to follow up with any further questions here or at the Teahouse. —Sirdog (talk) 11:03, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
Question from Blissandpeace (04:01, 29 October 2023)
Good morning! Can you please help me in uploading content --Blissandpeace (talk) 04:01, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia, Blissandpeace! You can upload a file at Wikipedia:File upload wizard. Make sure you select whether or not the file is a free image in terms of copyright (blue button) or not (white button). If you mean "upload" as in making an article with content, Help:Your first article would be the place to stop at.
- I see the content of your user page, and I would caution trying to have that included in an article. That violates our neutral point of view and verifiability policies, just at a glance, and will most likely be deleted very quickly. I'd suggest trying your hand at editing existing articles before trying to create a new one. See Wikipedia:Task Center for ideas.
- Feel free to reach out with further questions here or at the Teahouse. —Sirdog (talk) 10:39, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
- acknowledged with thanks Blissandpeace (talk) 14:39, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
Question from Saita-sama (21:38, 29 October 2023)
hi how do i edit a page on wiki --Saita-sama (talk) 21:38, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia, Saita-sama! The page Help:Editing should give you all the tools you need. A quick primer is that you can edit any page by clicking the button labeled "
Edit
" on the top right of an article. If it instead says "View source
" that means an administrator has made it so only certain kinds of editors are allowed to edit it. Clicking the button will give you more information. - Feel free to reach out with further questions here or at the Teahouse. —Sirdog (talk) 22:03, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
Question from Shadestar474 on Wikipedia:Teahouse (22:32, 30 October 2023)
Hello, Sirdog!
I’m wondering if you’re allowed to ask another question at the Teahouse if one of yours has not yet been resolved. I would think that it would be annoying if one user just asked a million questions at the Teahouse all in a row, but I’m also the kind of person that would do that.
Thanks, Shadestar474 (talk) 22:32, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Greetings, Shadestar474! I'd say that, if you can, try and group your additional questions under an existing header (created by you), since the teahouse tends to have a monstrous table of contents at any given time. If you can and are comfortable, you can also spread out your questions to different venues.
- Options include the Wikipedia:Help desk (how to use/edit Wikipedia), the Wikipedia:Reference desk (general questions based on a set of topics), asking me questions here, asking on the Wikimedia Discord in channel
#english-wikipedia
, and finally, inquiring on the talk page of any editor you find reasonable. —Sirdog (talk) 06:15, 31 October 2023 (UTC)- Ok! Thank you! But, how would I group my questions under the same header? Take this example: what if I was asking if there is a Scottish Gaelic Wikipedia and, at the time, didn’t realize I would have more questions, and named the topic Scottish Gaelic. Then, a couple of hours later, I have a question about recent changes patrol. I can’t quite group completely unrelated questions under one heading, like recent changes patrol under Scottish Gaelic. Do you just name it ‘Some questions’ in anticipation of new questions? Shadestar474 (talk) 18:30, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- That'd probably be the best approach. That said, I'd probably ask a host if that is actually preferable or if they'd prefer new topics regardless of frequency. I'm not a regular responder myself, and they may have a system in place that I didn't anticipate when I answered your question. —Sirdog (talk) 19:29, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Ok, thank you! I’ll try asking a host. Shadestar474 (talk) 22:22, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- That'd probably be the best approach. That said, I'd probably ask a host if that is actually preferable or if they'd prefer new topics regardless of frequency. I'm not a regular responder myself, and they may have a system in place that I didn't anticipate when I answered your question. —Sirdog (talk) 19:29, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Ok! Thank you! But, how would I group my questions under the same header? Take this example: what if I was asking if there is a Scottish Gaelic Wikipedia and, at the time, didn’t realize I would have more questions, and named the topic Scottish Gaelic. Then, a couple of hours later, I have a question about recent changes patrol. I can’t quite group completely unrelated questions under one heading, like recent changes patrol under Scottish Gaelic. Do you just name it ‘Some questions’ in anticipation of new questions? Shadestar474 (talk) 18:30, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
November Articles for creation backlog drive
Hello Sirdog:
WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 2 months outstanding reviews from the current 4+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 November 2023 through 30 November 2023.
You may find Category:AfC pending submissions by age or other categories and sorting helpful.
Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.
October 2023 NPP backlog drive – Points award
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This award is given to Sirdog for collecting more than 5 points during the October 2023 NPP backlog drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to the drive! Hey man im josh (talk) 02:04, 1 November 2023 (UTC) |
THE HISTORY OF PA OMBUTUA-OWEI EKPESE, THE FOUNDER OF AYAKOROMO COMMUNITY IN BURUTU LOCAL GOVERNMENT AREA OF DELTA STATE, NIGERIA.*
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THE MAN PA OMBUTUA-OWEI EKPESE Pa Ombutua-owei Ekpese, son of Ekpese, and grand son of Pa Karebi was born in the 16th century to the family of Pa Karebi in Kiagbodo, Ngbilebiri-Mein. He was a great warrior, hunter, farmer and fisherman with high penchant for adventurous trips. A black, giant-looking six fingered and fierce man that commands authority with high intelligent quotient. PA OMBUTUA-OWEI'S MOTHER Pa Ombutua-owei mother's name is Emgbaikpo, the daughter of Pa Bena-Kerebi whose descendants are Ngoketerimo of Pa M.L. Agbegha and Tebideba of Lion Kurodoukumo Lineage in present Assesaghabiri Quarters in Ayakoromo. PA OMBUTUA-OWEI EKPESE'S FINAL MOVEMENT OUT OF KIAGBODO. Pa Ombutua-owei Ekpese, being a man of valour was in search for new fishing, hunting and farming territory, left Kiagbodo and paddled out of Kiagbodo creek near Okpare Town with a wooden boat and went down to Forcados River to the first site he settled, called Egbeipou now Egbo-ideh(Egbo) in present Ughelli South Local Government Area which was uninhibited at that time. He began to farm and hunt in the daytime and kill fishes at night. He continued with these activities around the area but later found a marshy low land area more lucrative for his hunting and fishing activities. While he retained his several farms and farming activities at his former location (Egbeipou), he relocated to the low marshy plain or land susceptible to annual flooding which is at the left bank, adjacently opposite, he called Ayakoro-yo. As a courageous man, he setup a fishing camp and started to explore the territory to and fro with his household of three wives and two sisters for more than two decades (over 20years). This was when he pinned his tentacles of fishing in the new settlement with his three wives and two sisters namely Okofo and Anetu. PA OMBUTUA-OWEI'S SISTERS (ANETU & OKOFO). Anetu Ekpese even though was barren settled at Anetugbene(now called Bobougbene) on the instructions of her elder brother, Pa Ombutua-owei Ekpese. The present Bobougbene was originally called Anetugbene coined after her name-Anetu. She was a very successful trader and engaged in fishing activities. Her accommodating spirit and unparalleled kindness attracted men and women from the neighborhood to dwell with her. Okofo Ekpese, a beautiful damsel married Pa Ongolo of Gbekebor Town and gave birth to two male children namely Gbafade and Eneimienye. From history, Pa Ongolo was originally a native of Agbodobiri in Ogbolubiri kingdom. PA OMBUTUA-OWEI SECURED THE LIFE OF PERE BIGBOROGHA 1 At the end of each fishing year, Pa Ombutua-owei Ekpese joins his kith and kin for the annual festival in Kiagbodo and return thereafter to his new found settlement called Ayakoro-yo. In one of his usual annual visit, he heard of a sacrilegious crime committed by one of the sons of Pere Bigborogha 1. The authenticity of the crime was established after a panel was set up to investigate the matter. In accordance with tradition, the culprit was to be killed for the offense committed. Pere Bigborogha 1 got wind of the judgement and tried to use his good office to temper justice with mercy but to no avail. In the process, the culprit absconded to an unknown destination. There was serious crisis in the community and the situation was getting out of control. Pa Ombutua-owei Ekpese was invited at this juncture to meet with other king makers to broker peace or find a Truce. When the aggrieved party later discovered that the culprit has absconded, they collectively demanded for the life of the King in place of his son. In one of his visits to Kiagbodo, at the height of the crisis, Pa Ombutua-owei Ekpese was intimated of the plan to kill the King. Pa Ombutua-owei Ekpese in his wisdom and as the 'Abosuru-Owei' of Ngbilebiri-Mein kingdom strategized ways to secure the King and his household from his adversaries. He finally succeeded in escaping with the King and his family under cover at midnight. This was in 1632AD. THE BATTLE BETWEEN PA OMBUTUA-OWEI AND THE INVADERS FROM KIAGBODO Pa Ombutua-owei's escape with the King at that time caused unprecedented crisis in Kiagbodo between the contending groups. There was a counter move to capture the King and his household and bring him back to Kiagbodo, for justice to prevail. In a swift response, Pa Ombutua-owei Ekpese being a warrior, organized his household, taking along his three nephews including Gbafade, to face the invaders. Wearing his war regalia, he advanced with his fighters to the middle of the river in-wait for the invaders. The coalition point was at 'Ayorobenghan Ofiyou'. The battle was very fierce, and at the end of the day, the surviving first son of Pa Ombutua-owei Ekpese named Kiagbodo and four other persons from the other side lost their lives. That was how the battle ended. PA OMBUTUA-OWEI BUILT CAMP FOR PERE BIGBOROGHA 1. To ensure total safety of the King and his household, a camp was built for Pere Bigborogha 1 in a creek, off Obubu creek known as 'Pere-Oba' till date. Oral history had it that the culprit who earlier absconded was fished out and handed over to the traditional authority for execution in Kiagbodo. THE INFLUX OF PA OMBUTUA-OWEI TOWN'S MEN TO AYAKOROMO The influx of Pa Ombutua-owei town's men from Kiagbodo and other places commenced after Pere Bigborogha 1 relocation to the new settlement(Ayakoro-yo) in about 1632AD. As a result of the traditional constraints of not sighting fresh water (Pinabeni), Pere Bigborogha 1 was further shifted to a lake named 'Pere-Dunou' near the inner boundary between Ayakoromo and Ogodobiri. The successful protection of Pere Bigborogha 1 life and provision of a new abode for him, which was made possible by Pa Ombutua-owei, and the lucrative nature of the new settlement, encouraged and influenced the influx of his town's men to join him; prominent among the elders were: Pa Diamo, Pa Boukonghan, Pa Oforikpo, Pa Agbereye, Pa Youpele-owei, Pa Ekeremowei, Pa Bena-Kerebi and Karebi/Badenmo families. This made the war lord, Pa Ombutua-owei Ekpese to change the name Ayakoro-yo to Ayakoro-ama (Ayakoromo) till this day. THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN PA OMBUTUA-OWEI AND PA ONGOLO OF GBEKEBOR. As earlier mentioned, mama Okofo(a damsel then), daughter of Pa Ekpese got married to Pa Ongolo, who was originally from Agbodobiri. After the marriage, Pa Ongolo travelled with her to Orugbo and gained employment in Olu of Itsekiri Palace and lived there. Pa Ombutua-owei who cares and desire to know the new abode and welfare of his sister and her husband, searched for them and found them at Olu of Itsekiri Palace. He persuaded them to follow him and they complied. He then gave them the area close to where Gbedekebor is situated, to settle. Pa Ongolo, after critically observing the fierce and adventurous nature of his brother in-law, proposed to sign a peace pack with him. The unwritten peace pack was effected and implemented. Pa Ongolo later pleaded with his in-law to move a bit farther away from the settlement he was given, to the place called Gbedekebor(now Gbekebor). Pa Ongolo marriage to Mama Okofo was blessed with two male children namely; Gbafade and Eneimienye. The radical behavior of the children mama Okofo had with her husband, Pa Ongolo made him to often quarrel with her. This prompted madam Okofo to move with her children to join her brother, Pa Ombutua-owei to form the three present compounds ('egede') namely; Ombutua-owei (main), Gbafade and the Eneimienye 'wororo' in Ayakoromo Town. PA OMBUTUA-OWEI EKPESE'S ENCOUNTER WITH A MISTERIOUS LEOPARD In those days, a misterious leopard usually appear from the bush and terrorize the people of Ayakoromo. This leopard operating spot was around the present area late madam Orumu's house was located in Apalepa domain of Tamukunou quarters. The several dangerous attacks on the citizens by the leopard was widely discussed by the elders and youths, but no practical step was taken to overcome it. Those who go early into the bush for their economic activities such as bush mango (ogbein) fruit collection, move in groups for fear of the leopard. The complaints of the people about the ferocious leopard reached Pa Ombutua-owei. As a brave warrior and hunter of high repute, Pa Ombutua-owei was fully prepared in his mind to confront the rampaging beast to save his people. Although, his decision at that time did not get the approval of his children who felt he was too old and weak to fight the misterious leopard. One fateful day, Pa Ombutua-owei dressed in his war regalia disguised before his children and advanced to the spot where the beast normally comes out to operate. He used his talent as a hunter to search for the leopard around the area. He raised a popular war song to spur himself to action. One of the popular war song was: 'Abi o ena asain yo obori konowei kere yo'(2ice), followed by personal and special appellations to usher in the war spirits of the community. Suddenly, the beast appeared from behind and pounced on him, dipping it's paws into the side rips of Pa Ombutua-owei. In a swift reaction, Pa Ombutua-owei neck-locked the beast(leopard) and used his poisonous native knife on it, stabbing it severally and finally threw the beast out. Even though he succeeded in killing the leopard, the claws have inflicted fatal injuries on his ribs with internal bleeding. PA OMBUTUA-OWEI'S DEATH Pa Ombutua-owei died after some years, principally attributed to old age and the fatal wounds he sustained during his encounter with the leopard. At the time of his death, Pa Ombutua-owei had nine(9) wives (zitus) and very many children to his credit. Pa Ombutua-owei by all standard was a great warrior, hunter, farmer, fisherman and Community leader of high repute. He is a hero and saviour of the people of Ayakoromo Community in Ngbilebiri-Mein kingdom. HISTORICAL SOURCES: 1. This historical text was handed down by Pa Ombutua-owei to Pa Akorun, Pa Akorun inturn handed it over to Pa Arekumo, Pa Arekumo to Pa Daubriyaibo Daubo, Pa Daubriyaibo Daubo to Pa Agu Arekumo, Pa Agu Arekumo to Pa Orubagor Daubriyaibo, Pa Orubagor Daubriyaibo to Pa Okeren, Pa Okeren to Pa Agbogidi, Pa Agbogidi to Mr. Sylvester A. Igwe on one hand and the narration of fourteen(14) prominent elders of Kiagbodo led by Pa Clark Fuludu Bekeddremo on 15th May, 1967. 2. This oral historical narration which dated back to 1675 AD was extracted from a compendium of Ngbilebiri history in the archives as recorded by Professor E. J. Alagoa in his book titled, "The History of the Niger Delta", page 63. 3. The Constitution of Ayakoromo, as written by Late Chief Thomas Omete Onduku in 1965 as amended in 1969, 1985 and 1995 respectively. |
Joseph E. Edumogiren (talk) 07:45, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- Please do not engage with my talk page moving forward. —Sirdog (talk) 07:48, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
Question from Mr.Dev0800 on Eket (22:46, 3 November 2023)
Hello I have a question to ask --Mr.Dev0800 (talk) 22:46, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- I want to write and discussion the history of my company how far we have achieved so much this please Mr.Dev0800 (talk) 22:56, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia, Mr.Dev0800. Wikipedia is not a platform to present promotional material. You may not write about your company or how far it has achieved. Your company may qualify for a neutrally written and reliably sourced article granted it meets our notability guidelines for companies. You would be required to disclose any conflict of interest you have, especially if it involves payment of any kind to write on Wikipedia. —Sirdog (talk) 02:59, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
Question from Haroldfrom (10:50, 5 November 2023)
How do you cite sources? (Source editing) --Haroldfrom (talk) 10:50, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Haroldfrom: The page Help:Referencing for beginners should get you in the right direction. Feel free to follow up with me if anything there seems confusing. —Sirdog (talk) 23:11, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
Question from Haroldfrom on John Reddie (16:15, 5 November 2023)
How to add infobox on mobile --Haroldfrom (talk) 16:15, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Haroldfrom: Presuming you want to add an infobox for John Reddie, the correct template would be Template:Infobox officeholder. See the template's documentation, and other article pages on judges, for how you'd fill it out. You would place it at the tippy-top of the article per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout. —Sirdog (talk) 23:13, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
Question from ButterscotchPuffin (02:49, 7 November 2023)
Hello! Wanted to greet you because you are apparently my mentor.
I have an acceptable amount of experience with the functional aspect of Wikipedia thanks to working on wikis using the same program, but little experience with Wikipedia's norms and traditions. And so, I have a couple questions. Would you recommend against me joining a WikiProject immediately after joining Wikipedia? If I do want to join a WikiProject, should I ask a member first or just add myself to their list of contributors? Finally, for now, how should I go about putting things on my User Page and what things should I put on there? --ButterscotchPuffin (talk) 02:49, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia, ButterscotchPuffin! WikiProject's aren't really anything formal; they are just a group of editors that organize together because they are interested in editing or supporting a particular topic on Wikipedia. I cannot think of any such projects off the top of my head that require any formality to joining, so unless their home page (an example of a home page is Wikipedia:WikiProject Film, though they have no requirements to "join" them) says otherwise, you can just add yourself to the list of contributors and/or add the userbox to your user page. I also can't think of any reason as to why it would be an issue to do so due to your inexperience. If anything it may give you a group of editors to learn with.
- In regards to your user page, specific guidelines are listed at Wikipedia:User page. Editors tend to have great latitude with what they can do with their own user space so long as it does not violate any of what Wikipedia is not. A common error I see from newer editors is using it as a webhost to hold information that is clearly meant for off-wiki purposes. Let me know if you have any specific questions regarding your userspace after perusing the above resources.
- Finally, since you are newly joined here, Wikipedia:Task Center is a good resource for finding some things to do around Wikipedia if you don't have something else in mind. I hope you enjoy your time with Wikipedia and stick around. Cheers! —Sirdog (talk) 13:44, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – November 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2023).
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- The WMF is working on making it possible for administrators to edit MediaWiki configuration directly. This is similar to previous work on Special:EditGrowthConfig. A technical RfC is running until November 08, where you can provide feedback.
- There is a proposed plan for re-enabling the Graph Extension. Feedback on this proposal is requested.
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- Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
- Following several motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles, Liancourt Rocks, Longevity, Medicine, September 11 conspiracy theories, and Shakespeare authorship question cases.
- Following a motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the Macedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
- Following a motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the The Troubles case has been amended.
- An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.
- The Articles for Creation backlog drive is happening in November 2023, with 700+ drafts pending reviews for in the last 4 months or so. In addition to the AfC participants, all administrators and New Page Patrollers can conduct reviews using the helper script, Yet Another AFC Helper Script, which can be enabled in the Gadgets settings. Sign up here to participate!
Question from Squeak41 (20:01, 7 November 2023)
Hey there, I made an update and it doesn't look like anything was changed after but I noticed it was added to a "filter log" which claims it could be "promotion"... no actions were taken, but just a little confused and wondering if I did something wrong / what to do next time / if I need to change anything for this one. --Squeak41 (talk) 20:01, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia, Squeak41, and I apologize for my late reply. The edit filter is a community maintained set of regular expression filters that either blocks or logs for review edits which meet certain criteria, usually to stop edits which are unambiguously disruptive (e.g one filter is set to block attempts to add the phrase "yo mama" to articles) or which meet patterns that are consistent with long term abusers.
- As far as I'm aware, the filter being triggered - especially if no action was taken - is not inherently a bad thing. I'm not much more knowledgable with filters aside from what I've said above, so I don't know if I can access your triggering of the relevant filter specifically. I'd say you are good to just continue editing as normal, presuming it remains policy compliant. If you are concerned and desire an authoritative answer, I'd suggest messaging an edit filter helper or manager. Click me for a list of managers and click me for a list of helpers. —Sirdog (talk) 04:25, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
I opened another topic at Saladin’s talk page
Hi sirdog, i just opened another topic at Saladin's talk page, can you check it? (It's not my reply to you) Quirk1 (talk) 01:58, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- I've replied on the talk page . —Sirdog (talk) 04:11, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks 🙏, i've edited my last reply to you if u want to check Quirk1 (talk) 04:39, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- I shall respectfully opt to disengage from the discussion moving forward. I personally believe the action I implemented is sufficient. I wish you well! —Sirdog (talk) 04:48, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks 🙏, i've edited my last reply to you if u want to check Quirk1 (talk) 04:39, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
Question from Nbmarer on Gaming control board (01:27, 12 November 2023)
I deposited money . Won and tried to redeem and my winnings were cleared from my account and I never seen . Anything . Is that legal? --Nbmarer (talk) 01:27, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia, Nbmarer. You would need to direct your question to a legal expert in your area and/or the company of the machine you used. Wikipedia simply displays information on related topics, but does not offer support on them. —Sirdog (talk) 01:30, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
Question from HelenWiseman (03:09, 12 November 2023)
- Courtesy link: Draft:Sara Mahdavi
Hi there! I’m not sure why the article I wrote was declined based on “Notability” The topic of an article must already be covered in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. These include academic journals, books, newspapers, magazines, and websites with a reputation for fact checking. I am trying to create female scientists pages to gain them recognition and I was careful to use several external sources including peer reviewed journals, Harvards website and news articles about the scientist… could you tell me where I went wrong?! --HelenWiseman (talk) 03:09, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikiepdia, HelenWiseman. I'm sorry that an article you are trying to create was recently declined, I understand that can be frustrating. Taking a glance at some of the sources in the article, I believe the complaint that your reviewer has is that the articles discuss the research created by Sara Mahdavi but they don't discuss her in particular. We generally want to see publications focus on the subject specifically rather than a work they are related to or have created. Looking at our guidelines specific to academics (which a scientist would fall under in this case), I don't immediately think she qualifies for any of those items either.
- I'd suggest asking your reviewer directly to get more insight into how they came to their decision. You can do so by posting here: User talk:WikiOriginal-9. —Sirdog (talk) 03:28, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for your quick and detailed reply. I must have missed the guidelines for academics … would you be able to send them to me by any chance? I guess it’s hard to acknowledge a scientist without discussing their scientific achievements and publications … although I did use independent news sources too… but thanks again for your help. I have sent a message to the reviewer as well. If you have any other tips how to improve this, I’d really appreciate it :) HelenWiseman (talk) 03:39, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
- You are most certainly welcome, HelenWiseman. The guidelines for academics can be found directly at Wikipedia:Notability (academics)#Criteria, it's the 8 point list. I wish you well in developing your draft. Feel free to ask any future questions about Wikipedia here or at the Teahouse. If you succeed, fail, or perhaps get burnt out, Wikipedia:Task Center is a resource I like to give new editors - it provides a list of editing activities and ranks them based on relative experience to perform them comfortably. —Sirdog (talk) 03:49, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
- This is very helpful. Thanks again and will be editing away… I understand the process a little better now 😊 HelenWiseman (talk) 06:02, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Sirdog,
- Jim seems to have removed the page altogether before I got a chance to edit it. Is there any way I can get it back? HelenWiseman (talk) 16:27, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
- You could ask the administrator on his user talk page, HelenWiseman, to give you the raw text. You can do so by posting here: User talk:Jimfbleak.
- I doubt he'll do so, however, considering he deleted it for the reason "
Unambiguous advertising or promotion: see WP:COI, WP:RS, WP:Notability (people), supposed independent refs largely self-written
". —Sirdog (talk) 20:51, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
- You are most certainly welcome, HelenWiseman. The guidelines for academics can be found directly at Wikipedia:Notability (academics)#Criteria, it's the 8 point list. I wish you well in developing your draft. Feel free to ask any future questions about Wikipedia here or at the Teahouse. If you succeed, fail, or perhaps get burnt out, Wikipedia:Task Center is a resource I like to give new editors - it provides a list of editing activities and ranks them based on relative experience to perform them comfortably. —Sirdog (talk) 03:49, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for your quick and detailed reply. I must have missed the guidelines for academics … would you be able to send them to me by any chance? I guess it’s hard to acknowledge a scientist without discussing their scientific achievements and publications … although I did use independent news sources too… but thanks again for your help. I have sent a message to the reviewer as well. If you have any other tips how to improve this, I’d really appreciate it :) HelenWiseman (talk) 03:39, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
Question from Saita-sama (19:22, 12 November 2023)
do you have any advice on promoting my new business without getting banned from wiki --Saita-sama (talk) 19:22, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
- I do not, Saita-sama, as it is prohibited. —Sirdog (talk) 20:48, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
Question from Aspection (20:19, 14 November 2023)
Do you have any articles to suggest that I can start working on? --Aspection (talk) 20:19, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Aspection: Not any in particular, I fear. My suggestion would be to search up topics which interest you - video games, films, biographies, historical events, etc - and then check the categories of those pages to find a ton of similar articles. You can also checkout the Wikipedia:Task Center for ideas on how to contribute to Wikipedia more broadly. —Sirdog (talk) 13:41, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you for letting me know. I am updating aircraft articles currently as many new announcements have been made. Thank you! Aspection (talk) 21:56, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
Question from Eliasjiniya on Eat This, Not That (07:18, 15 November 2023)
Hello --Eliasjiniya (talk) 07:18, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
Question from HelenWiseman (11:31, 15 November 2023)
Dear Sirdog, I am excited to report that I believe I have received my draft back after a lengthy discussion with the admin person, but now the hardworking begins :) I want to try and do a much better job and I have three female scientists I would like to write about. How do you suggest I go about this so that I am getting editorial feedback and reviews before skipping any steps that prompt a deletion again because of my lack of experience. Thanks again for your kind help and wisdom :) HW --HelenWiseman (talk) 11:32, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- I'm glad to hear of your success, HelenWiseman. In terms of suggestions... Any page on Wikipedia can be deleted at any time either by community discussion or through one of our criteria for on-sight deletion. There isn't a process that unilaterally protects a page from deletion. Considering the original reason for your page's deletion, I would advise looking over our policy that describes what Wikipedia is not and reviewing our neutral point of view policy. If you write an article with those 2 things in mind, you are far less likely to have a draft deleted.
- The hurtle after that will be demonstrating with reliable sources that your topic is notable enough to warrant an article. Presuming you are going to retry creating the same article which got deleted, my links to the notability of academics further up this page will be helpful. —Sirdog (talk) 13:39, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
Question from Shivraj Ivare on Corrosion (14:18, 17 November 2023)
Resilient similar word is strong --Shivraj Ivare (talk) 14:18, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
Question from 10solomon (21:50, 24 November 2023)
I don't know how to edit it on. Wikipedia. --10solomon (talk) 21:50, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Question from Ninjascrollqc (01:26, 25 November 2023)
i have one wiki article i would like to start publishing . --Ninjascrollqc (talk) 01:27, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
Question from Ninjascrollqc (04:11, 25 November 2023)
i finished one publication about a journalist i have the permission to use his personal picture but Wikipedia it is still refusing the picture, how can i upload the picture? --Ninjascrollqc (talk) 04:11, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
Question from Jiskoq-sobqar-2dovCi (13:00, 27 November 2023)
Jason Farnham music beautiful --Jiskoq-sobqar-2dovCi (talk) 13:00, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
Question from Hlalvinator (15:13, 27 November 2023)
Hello How can I make a new page of someone --Hlalvinator (talk) 15:13, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
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Question from Erickjrsdad (21:13, 14 December 2023)
I want to add something that is missing from a page but I don’t know how to --Erickjrsdad (talk) 21:13, 14 December 2023 (UTC)