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Contentious topics procedure adopted
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The Arbitration Committee has concluded the 2021-22 review of the contentious topics system (formerly known as discretionary sanctions), and its final decision is viewable at the revision process page. As part of the review process, the Arbitration Committee has resolved by motion that:
The above proposals that are supported by an absolute majority of unrecused active arbitrators are hereby enacted. The drafting arbitrators (CaptainEek, L235, and Wugapodes) are directed to take the actions necessary to bring the proposals enacted by this motion into effect, including by amending the procedures at WP:AC/P and WP:AC/DS. The authority granted to the drafting arbitrators by this motion expires one month after enactment.
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Jeez, you're right
I've been trying to build sets all day, but I just keep hitting snag after snag. It seems like I'm tagging two nominations with a question for every one I actually promote today. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 11:49, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's a drag. BTW, I used PSHAW to move p5 -> q5 today. Nice work, it really made it easy. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:21, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
Sock advice
You had previously mentioned at the SPI case page for Andrew5 that stronger measures might be warranted if disruption continues. This person continues to IP hop and edit (including edit warring) at multiple articles (e.g. here and here). I can bring it to SPI if you thinks that's best, but I didn't know if you had different measures in mind at your last comment. TornadoLGS (talk) 21:29, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- @TornadoLGS I'll take a look, but yes, the best thing would be to file a SPI case because that gets things into the system for easier processing. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:32, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- Okay. I will mention your earlier comments there as well, that's alright with you. TornadoLGS (talk) 21:42, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- Sure, no problem. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:44, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- Okay. I will mention your earlier comments there as well, that's alright with you. TornadoLGS (talk) 21:42, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
Queue 1
I saw that queue 1 has three US hooks by each other, Rick Rehm, Verrado High School, and the football one. SL93 (talk) 19:13, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Hmmm. I thought I had checked that, but maybe not. I'll take a look and swap something around. Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:20, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Um, the football one is 2022 Bahamas Bowl. That's taking place in the Bahamas, so I wouldn't call it a US hook. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:23, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Anyway, swapped the high school out. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:31, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not so sure because it is a football competition between two US teams. It's fine now though. SL93 (talk) 21:03, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Turns out, my fancy-schmancy tool thinks it's an American hook too. Who am I to argue with the tool? -- RoySmith (talk) 21:13, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not so sure because it is a football competition between two US teams. It's fine now though. SL93 (talk) 21:03, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Anyway, swapped the high school out. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:31, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Um, the football one is 2022 Bahamas Bowl. That's taking place in the Bahamas, so I wouldn't call it a US hook. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:23, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
suspected sock of solniun
Hi would like alert you that i suspect Atsbi is a sockpuppet of blocked User:Solniun, they have similar writing styles. Banabakabiroshitha (talk) 07:33, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
Tech News: 2022-51
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Tech News
- Because of the holidays the next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 9 January 2023.
Recent changes
- On a user's contributions page, you can filter it for edits with a tag like 'reverted'. Now, you can also filter for all edits that are not tagged like that. This was part of a Community Wishlist 2022 request. [1]
- A new function has been used for gadget developers to add content underneath the title on article pages. This is considered a stable API that should work across all skins. Documentation is available. [2]
- One of our test wikis is now being served from a new infrastructure powered by Kubernetes (read more). More Wikis will switch to this new infrastructure in early 2023. Please test and let us know of any issues. [3]
Problems
- Last week, all wikis had no edit access for 9 minutes. This was caused by a database problem. [4]
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week or next week.
- The word "Reply" is very short in some languages, such as Arabic ("ردّ"). This makes the Discussion tools button on talk pages difficult to use. An arrow icon will be added to those languages. This will only be visible to editors who have the Beta Feature turned on. [5] [6]
Future changes
- Edits can be automatically "tagged" by the system software or the Edit filter configuration system. Those tags link to a help page about the tags. Soon they will also link to Recent Changes to let you see other edits tagged this way. This was a Community Wishlist 2022 request. [7]
- The Trust & Safety tools team have shared new plans for building the Private Incident Reporting System. The system will make it easier for editors to ask for help if they are harassed or abused.
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Category:Ohio Brass Company employees has been nominated for deletion
Category:Ohio Brass Company employees has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Bearcat (talk) 04:38, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
Happy holidays!
Happy Holidays and Happy New Year, Roy!
The other day, I was having a conversation with someone about holiday cards and social media. It occurred to me that, in the years since I left Facebook, the site I use most to communicate with people I like isn't actually a social media site at all. If you're receiving this, it's pretty likely I've talked with you more recently than I have my distant relatives and college friends on FB, at very least, and we may have even collaborated on something useful. So here's a holiday "card", Wikipedia friend. :) Hope the next couple weeks bring some fun and/or rest. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 18:48, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
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Happy Holidays!
RoySmith: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, RV (talk) 01:22, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!
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Happy Holidays
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Hello, I wish you the very best during the holidays. And I hope you have a very happy 2023! Bruxton (talk) 17:18, 25 December 2022 (UTC) |
Hello RoySmith: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 17:28, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 17:28, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
December music
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We sang Charpentier's delightful Messe de minuit pour Noël today, which was on DYK yesterday, - a first for me, pictured, - Thank you for your gnomish work around DYK! - Enjoy the season! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:46, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
Today, pictured, the soprano of our choral concert of the year. More in the context: User talk:Gerda Arendt#DYK for Talia Or, in case of interest. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:51, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
Automatic move-protection of DYK pages
There's a discussion resolved in favour of move-protecting DYK articles for their appearance on the Main Page – if I wrote some code in Python/Pywikibot, would you be interested in managing the task with an adminbot? Obviously, it'd need a BRFA, I'd help out as much I can with that. We can collaborate on Toolforge, or you can run the code on your own tool. Thanks! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 09:08, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
- In theory, this sounds like a good idea. But, I'd like to get what I'm working on now out the door first, so I don't want to make any commitments. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:49, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron to clarify, I'm willing to commit to working with you on getting this running. I'm just not willing to commit on when I'll be in a good position to start work on that. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:41, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
- Awesome! No worries, shoot me a ping when you're ready to get started. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 19:16, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron to clarify, I'm willing to commit to working with you on getting this running. I'm just not willing to commit on when I'll be in a good position to start work on that. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:41, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
Bunches of HarveyCarter?
Heya, take a peek at User:BakingCookiesH. You're more familiar with HarveyCarter socks than I am, but it looks to me like there's a whole drawer of unwashed ones under his /64. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 20:07, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Jpgordon taking a look now... -- RoySmith (talk) 20:18, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, found enough socks to keep my feet warm all winter. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/HarveyCarter. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:45, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
- I like socks. I got wonderful socks for Christmas. I wish we didn't call these abusive people "socks". Oh well. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 21:25, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, found enough socks to keep my feet warm all winter. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/HarveyCarter. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:45, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
Happy New Year, RoySmith!
RoySmith,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Abishe (talk) 18:04, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
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Abishe (talk) 18:04, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
Happy New Year, RoySmith!
RoySmith,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
– Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 21:14, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
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– Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 21:14, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
Happy New Year!
Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 22:56, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
- – Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year}} to user talk pages.
CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 22:56, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
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Happy New Year, RoySmith!
RoySmith,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
— Moops ⋠T⋡ 17:18, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.
— Moops ⋠T⋡ 17:18, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Block log
I do not see the block in my personal block log. Am I good after all? That would seriously relieve a LOT of stress that this has caused. Also, I'd like to continue sending some, since literally everyone else was appreciative and is even STILL sending my thanks and good wishes as well, but I WILL NOT start back up without first receiving some seriously positive consensus. Where might you suggest that I seek to ask such a question so that it is fair and widely seen? I do not wish to be seen as WP:CANVASSING my ask either. Believe it or not, I take editing on the encyclopedia very, very seriously. Maybe you and I will come across each other in other ways one day too, and I try my best to have a sterling reputation for only producing edits of value. — Moops ⋠T⋡ 18:27, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Moops I'm sure you didn't mean any harm by this, but please understand that mass editing like this, even if it's for something as innocuous as a holiday greeting, is generally considered inappropriate. From what I could see, it sure looked like an automated process, given the high rate of speed the edits were happening and the amount of time it had been happening. My first concern was to prevent disruption to the project, hence the block. As long as you don't start doing this again, we're fine. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:39, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- I AM interested in starting up again, BUT I will NOT do so unless I get the green light from the community. I am about to post on the Teahouse, but if you have another spot in mind that might be best, just let me know. TY
- Many people are sad and alone. Myself included. And it can be incredibly nice and kind for them to receive a simple message like this. I am not sending to all editors on the platform, only the top by edit count, and only this one time per year. And many of them I HAVE had an edit history interaction with in some way, shape, or form. I just love wikipedia. :) <3 — Moops ⋠T⋡ 18:42, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
A New Year's Greeting is not disuruptive
Whack!. MarnetteD|Talk 18:31, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- RoySmith. If I send these at a slower rate, or something else, would that be tolerable without risk of being blocked again? Thoughts MarnetteD? I am trying not to step on any toes here, but this was really how I planned on spending my new year was to welcome in some of the top editors by edit count with a pleasant 'Happy New Years' greeting. I hope to be able to continue if at all possible! At least for the top few thousand and then I'd be done. Just for their continued contributions and great work. By the way, I do check each and every page before sending the 'Happy New Years' template, and do not send to blocked users, retired users, or many other users that I felt were not recently or actively contributing to the current building of the encyclopedia. It was not just a full and total blanket carpet bombing of love. :-P TY — Moops ⋠T⋡ 18:56, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- I see that you've posted at WP:TEA. Whatever gets decided over there is fine with me. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:07, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you Roy. — Moops ⋠T⋡ 21:19, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- I see that you've posted at WP:TEA. Whatever gets decided over there is fine with me. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:07, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – January 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2022).
- Speedy deletion criterion A5 (transwikied articles) has been repealed following an unopposed proposal.
- Following the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Barkeep49, CaptainEek, GeneralNotability, Guerillero, L235, Moneytrees, Primefac, SilkTork.
- The 2021-22 Discretionary Sanctions Review has concluded with many changes to the discretionary sanctions procedure including a change of the name to "contentious topics". The changes are being implemented over the coming month.
- The arbitration case Stephen has been closed.
- Voting for the Sound Logo has closed and the winner is expected to be announced February to April 2023.
- Tech tip: You can view information about IP addresses in a centralised location using bullseye which won the Newcomer award in the recent Coolest Tool Awards.
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Goncharov
Goncharov needs to be moved back to a prep as someone objected. I didn't know you were filling the queue. Lol. BorgQueen (talk) 14:36, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- No problem. I'm still trying to figure out a good flow for this where people don't step all over each other. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:37, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
Tech News: 2023-02
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can use tags to filter edits in the recent changes feed or on your watchlist. You can now use tags to filter out edits you don't want to see. Previously you could only use tags to focus on the edits with those tags. [8]
- Special:WhatLinksHere shows all pages that link to a specific page. There is now a prototype for how to sort those pages alphabetically. You can see the discussion in the Phabricator ticket.
- You can now use the thanks function on your watchlist and the user contribution page. [9]
- A wiki page can be moved to give it a new name. You can now get a dropdown menu with common reasons when you move a page. This is so you don't have to write the explanation every time. [10]
- Matrix is a chat tool. You can now use
matrix:
to create Matrix links on wiki pages. [11] - You can filter out translations when you look at the recent changes on multilingual wikis. This didn't hide translation pages. You can now also hide subpages which are translation pages. [12]
Changes later this week
- Realtime preview for wikitext is a tool which lets editors preview the page when they edit wikitext. It will be enabled for all users of the 2010 wikitext editor. You will find it in the editor toolbar.
- Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on 10 January at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis) and on 12 January at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis).
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Historical context...
I think this improves the hook. What do you think? BorgQueen (talk) 20:26, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- Not my style. I prefer hooks that are short and sweet instead of trying to explain everything. Personal preference, I guess. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:49, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Misclick, sorry!
Reverted back. Black Kite (talk) 02:42, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Concern about bias of a user
The user Pngeditor is misappropriating sources and using them to enhance their own narrative, the things that they link to the source are not mentioned in the source and have been completely twisted from what the source says. Salandarianflag (talk) 22:31, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
For example in the Mercaz Harav article, they wrote promotes Israeli settlements, but in the source it does not say they promote Israeli settlements. Salandarianflag (talk) 22:33, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for DYK note
Appreciated your note! The DYK thing made my day (Livio Castiglioni was my first article starting from a blank-page). Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 12:40, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Cl3phact0 It was a well-written article, thanks for submitting it. I'm curious why you used {{r}} for the grove reference. Why not the more usual {{cite book}}? -- RoySmith (talk) 14:59, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. Re: {{r}} v {{cite book}}, I simply haven't mastered the various formats, templates, etc., nor have I memorised the MOS (and best practice thereof). Not sure if that's a sufficient or justifiable reason, but it's the best I can offer by way of an explanation (lots to learn). Thanks for drawing my attention to these nuances. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 15:20, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'll see if I can fix things up for you. BTW, I just noticed there's a discussion at WT:DYK#Livio Castiglioni regarding some of the images on commons. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:29, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- It's been something of a long march re: these images, but I thought it was resolved (or at least that some sort of détente had been established). The funny thing is, the editor who suggested I nominate the article for DYK in the first place was actually involved in the kerfuffle over the photos on some level (on the Commons side), and they have been super helpful and supportive throughout since they realised I had nothing to do with that matter.
- The complexities of image use on Wikipedia seem intractable (at least to
athis newcomer). It often has felt like a waste of my time and energy delving into this aspect of the Wikiproject, and I have given up to a degree (at least for the time being). Cl3phact0 (talk) 15:57, 14 January 2023 (UTC)- Yeah, I hear you on the image use policies. I've had all sorts of images I've uploaded taken down for what I consider absurd reasons, but it's all just part of life on wikipedia. In general, the folks on commons are ultra-conservative about copyright issues, which is a good thing, even if it can sometimes be annoying. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:00, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- Maybe I've mis-read ultra-conservativism for tacit smugness and apparent glee. Could just be me (probably is), however it seems that my travailles over there on the Commons side of the divide have resulted in, well, not much of worth actually — especially when weighed and measured against the time-sucking vortex of a cold bath it's been trying. None too inviting or appealing a place that, alas. A bit alienating, actually (though they do seem to enjoy themselves tremendously doing whatever good and important things they do do). I say: Godspeed.
- The fact is, information is often better retained and assimilated (especially by certain kinds of people) when accompanied by imagery, so it's truly a shame (in my view) that more and better visual material seems to be anathema to the folks who seem to be the keepers of this particular gate. Anyhow, enough of that, it's all just my subjective (and thus
possiblylikely flawed) point of view. - In any case, thanks* again for the DYK article help. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 21:22, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- *1,489 + 648 + 602 + 796 = 3,535 thanks, to be more precise!
- Yeah, I hear you on the image use policies. I've had all sorts of images I've uploaded taken down for what I consider absurd reasons, but it's all just part of life on wikipedia. In general, the folks on commons are ultra-conservative about copyright issues, which is a good thing, even if it can sometimes be annoying. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:00, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'll see if I can fix things up for you. BTW, I just noticed there's a discussion at WT:DYK#Livio Castiglioni regarding some of the images on commons. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:29, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. Re: {{r}} v {{cite book}}, I simply haven't mastered the various formats, templates, etc., nor have I memorised the MOS (and best practice thereof). Not sure if that's a sufficient or justifiable reason, but it's the best I can offer by way of an explanation (lots to learn). Thanks for drawing my attention to these nuances. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 15:20, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
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Tech News: 2023-03
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- The URLs in "prev" links on page history now contain
diff=prev&oldid=[revision ID]
in place ofdiff=[revision ID]&oldid=[revision ID]
. This is to fix a problem with links pointing to incorrect diffs when history was filtered by a tag. Some user scripts may break as a result of this change. [13]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 January. It will be on all wikis from 19 January (calendar).
- Some changes to the appearance of talk pages have only been available on
Talk:
andUser talk:
namespaces. These will be extended to other talk namespaces, such asWikipedia talk:
. They will continue to be unavailable in non-talk namespaces, includingWikipedia:
pages (e.g., at the Village Pump). You can change your preferences (beta feature). [14] - On Wikisources, when an image is zoomed or panned in the Page: namespace, the same zoom and pan settings will be remembered for all Page: namespace pages that are linked to a particular Index: namespace page. [15]
- The Vector 2022 skin will become the default for the English Wikipedia desktop users. The change will take place on January 18 at 15:00 UTC. Learn more.
Future changes
- The 2023 edition of the Community Wishlist Survey, which invites contributors to make technical proposals and vote for tools and improvements, starts next week on 23 January 2023 at 18:00 UTC. You can start drafting your proposals in the CWS sandbox.
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Contentious topics procedure now in effect
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Æo (talk) 03:32, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
- Received, thank you. -- RoySmith (talk) 04:10, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
Eswaran Naveen IP sock
117.230.187.201 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) popped up making the same edits as the last socks. Would you mind showing them the door? Ravensfire (talk) 22:35, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Ravensfire could I ask you to file an SPI? I'm deep into some other stuff at the moment. Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:40, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
- @RoySmith of course! Totally understand. Ravensfire (talk) 22:48, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
Tech News: 2023-04
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Administrators' newsletter – February 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2023).
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- Following an RfC, the administrator policy now requires that prior written consent be gained from the Arbitration Committee to mark a block as only appealable to the committee.
- Following a community discussion, consensus has been found to impose the extended-confirmed restriction over the topic areas of Armenia and Azerbaijan and Kurds and Kurdistan.
- The Vector 2022 skin has become the default for desktop users of the English Wikipedia.
- The arbitration case Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 24 February 2023.
- In December, the contentious topics procedure was adopted which replaces the former discretionary sanctions system. The contentious topics procedure is now in effect following an initial implementation period. There is a detailed summary of the changes and administrator instructions for the new procedure. The arbitration clerk team are taking suggestions, concerns, and unresolved questions about this new system at their noticeboard.
- Voting in the 2023 Steward elections will begin on 05 February 2023, 21:00 (UTC) and end on 26 February 2023, 21:00 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
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DYK-Tools-Bot remnants?
Hi, am I correct in assuming that {{DYK-Tools-Bot was here}}, Category:Pending DYK biographies, and Category:Pending DYK American hooks can be removed from all nomination templates, and the only ones that should remain are {{Pending DYK biographies}} and {{Pending DYK American hooks}}? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:41, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- Yes. {{DYK-Tools-Bot was here}} and the raw category tags are obsolete at this point and could be removed.
- I did get a complaint that {{Pending DYK American hooks}} should be changed to {{Pending DYK US hooks}}. I haven't 100% decided what I want to do there, but I suspect I'll do the rename at some point. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:45, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- Okay. Thanks for the quick reply. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:56, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Mandarax Thank you for undertaking this cleanup task. It's been on my list of things I was going to get to eventually, but I really appreciate you doing it for me. I am curious, however, about Special:Diff/1137625062, from a technical point of view. I got a ping "Mandarax mentioned you in an edit summary on Template:Did you know nominations/Charles Redd". But I don't see where the mention of my user name is actually in the edit summary. How did that work? -- RoySmith (talk) 17:18, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- You're welcome for the cleanup. I removed all "raw category tags". I considered replacing them with the corresponding templates (where they weren't already present), but I saw that the bot had rescanned pages it had visited in its previous incarnation, and I assumed you had refined the algorithm to exclude some which were previously miscategorized. In this case, I happened to notice that it was a US hook, so I added the template. As for the ping, I didn't think it needed to be visible in the history, so I piped it to a blank (
[[User:RoySmith| ]]
). MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 17:44, 5 February 2023 (UTC)- Wow, that pipe thing is a neat trick. I didn't know you could do that! -- RoySmith (talk) 17:46, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- Well, I knew about pipes in general, but I didn't know they worked that way in edit summaries. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:47, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- Wow, that pipe thing is a neat trick. I didn't know you could do that! -- RoySmith (talk) 17:46, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- You're welcome for the cleanup. I removed all "raw category tags". I considered replacing them with the corresponding templates (where they weren't already present), but I saw that the bot had rescanned pages it had visited in its previous incarnation, and I assumed you had refined the algorithm to exclude some which were previously miscategorized. In this case, I happened to notice that it was a US hook, so I added the template. As for the ping, I didn't think it needed to be visible in the history, so I piped it to a blank (
- @Mandarax Thank you for undertaking this cleanup task. It's been on my list of things I was going to get to eventually, but I really appreciate you doing it for me. I am curious, however, about Special:Diff/1137625062, from a technical point of view. I got a ping "Mandarax mentioned you in an edit summary on Template:Did you know nominations/Charles Redd". But I don't see where the mention of my user name is actually in the edit summary. How did that work? -- RoySmith (talk) 17:18, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- Okay. Thanks for the quick reply. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:56, 2 February 2023 (UTC)