User talk:Robin S. Taylor/Archive-2020

Correctness

Just to explain: Lords Davidson and Fisher were not Archbishops of Canterbury when Lords. I have reverted accordingly. Best, Tim riley talk 17:12, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Coat of Arms

I hope that in 2020 you will help me with the coat of arms for the Peerage of the United Kingdom and Peerage of Great Britain as I hope this will be finished in 2020.

Happy New YearMr Hall of England (talk) 22:39, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the information on the GB, I know that there are 34 UK Viscounts without a CoA.Mr Hall of England (talk) 20:09, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Peerage of Great Britain page is entirely at your disposal mate to add the Coat of Arms.Mr Hall of England (talk) 16:14, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lord Reed

Hi Robin. There is no convention which states that a peer must have their announcement in the Gazette before they can be known under their title, nor a Wikipedia guidelines stating so. As evidenced, his seat in the House of Lords began on 11 January. If you wish to further dispute this, please discuss it on the talk page.--Tærkast (Discuss) 16:44, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Blatant Advertising Content

In June 2017, your account added blatant advertising content to the page List of brutalist apartment blocks in Sheffield, in the form of repetitive and poorly formatted paragraphs about the cladding, with repetitive and unnecessary reference to the company that supposedly completed the work on the cladding. While information about the cladding, in the aftermath of the Grenfell disaster, is probably of note, it certainly shouldn't be presented in such a manner. If this was you, then you should have disclosed COI, as per WP:COI, and you should not have added the content directly. In addition, seeing as this is a UK company, on a UK relevant article, it will also fall under the ASA regulations, which it violates - as it must be clearly identified as a marketing communication (and therefore not present on Wikipedia in the first place).

If this was not you, then your account was compromised during this time, and you should (if you have not done so already) take measures to address this.

Direwolf202 (talk) 18:31, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yesterday, after I posted my previous comment, you changed the supposed author of one of the images on the aforementioned article — one specifically relating to the cladding. From yourself to “Simon E. Taylor”. You’re an experienced editor, so we should be able to resolve this in a civil manner — in order to do that, you need to engage with my attempt to discuss this issue. Direwolf202 (talk) 09:07, 15 January 2020 (UTC) Direwolf202 (talk) 09:07, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Creating Coats of Arms

Congratulations on creating some of the Coats of Arms for the GB/UK Peers, they are good for pages.Mr Hall of England (talk) 22:42, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Coat of Arms for Lord Goff of Chieveley

Hi Robin, thanks for creating a coat of arms for Lord Goff of Chieveley. Are you sure that this is the correct Goff? I'm wondering if this is a different family of Goffs, from [1] and [2] Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 01:50, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Scratch that, figured it out. It is the correct family. Many thanks again for constructing the coat of arms. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 02:20, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Coat of Arms of Peers

Keep up with the good work of the Coats of Arms. The UK and GB peers and filling up now. Mr Hall of England (talk) 21:41, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lord Chancellors Coat of Arms Page

I have helped you with your Lord Chancellor Page. Mr Hall of England (talk) 11:45, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Barons without Coat of Arms

Dear Sir

I have found the following:

182 UK Barons (none Imperial Barons) without Coat of Arms
13 UK Barons (for Irish and Scottish Peers) without Coat of Arms

Thought you ought to know.

Mr Hall of England (talk) 16:29, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox COA

There are problems with template Infobox COA:

Arms relate to families not to titles; No such thing as "arms of Baron XYZ". Better to say "arms of Grey, Baron XYZ", or better still just "arms of Grey". Armigerous gentry who become ennobled use their old arms. When a noble family loses its title, it continues to use the family's arms. (i.e. present Berkeley family of Berkeley Castle, just plain Mr Berkeley now, the earldoms, baronies and viscountcy all gone, still use the arms of the Berkeley family). Many ancient titles, e.g. Baron Clinton, which can pass via female lines, held successively by different families, all with different arms. Same for Baron Berkeley, present holder is not a Berkeley, does not use Berkeley arms.
Blazons should not be given with random words with capital initial letters, for example tinctures. Tinctures do not need to be given with capital initial letters. Only the first word of the entire blazon should have an initial capital. The grammar of blazoning is well defined, punctuation and random capitals are incorrect. One comma after the field is all that is required.
Perhaps most importantly, by relegating matters concerning heraldry to a self-imposed ghetto at the bottom of articles demotes the status of heraldry in WP articles. I like to see images of arms at the top, not at the bottom, integrated fully into the article. The caption box can contain all heraldic information.
- I don't like Infobox COA for all these reasons. Regards,Lobsterthermidor (talk) 12:28, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The Arms of some of the the Lords Chancellor

Hello, I hope you are well

I noticed that are some gaps in the Armorial of the Lord Chancellors, some of the more recent ones (Lord Irvine and Lord Falconer, for example), are not armigerous.

However there are some more 20th century examples who are.

Lord Sankey, Lord Chancellor 1929-1935, bore the following arms:

Gules a fess Ermine between in chief two martlets and in base a salmon Or.

Crest: In front of a dexter cubit arm vested Gules cuffed Ermine the hand grasping by the beam a pair of scales Proper a martlet as in the arms.

Supporters:On either side a lion Sable gorged with a collar Or suspended therefrom on the dexter an escutcheon Azure charged with a Paschal lamb Gold and on the sinister an escutcheon Vert charged with a stag trippant also Gold.

Source:Debrett's Peerage. 1936.

George Cave, 1st Viscount Cave, Lord Chancellor 1922-1924 bore:

Or fretty Azure a cross moline within a bordure nebuly Gules on a chief of the last two greyhounds' heads erased of the first.

Crest:A greyhound sejant Or pellettée, resting the dexter leg on a cross moline Gules.

Motto:Cave Deus Videt (Latin: Beware God Sees)

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Mervyn Pike

Hi Robin. I was just wondering whether you might be able to find a WP:NFCC compliant photo of the late Baroness Pike, for her article's infobox? All the best, ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 23:21, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly I doubt I'll find much as she died in 2004 and Parliament Live's archives only go back to 2007. Robin S. Taylor (talk) 23:38, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Infoboxes

Let's just leave well enough alone when it comes to unbulleted lists in infoboxes and not replace them with comma lists and keep common names only and not use just surnames. Alex (talk) 18:35, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed deletion of Armorial of Chancellors of the Exchequer of the United Kingdom

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Proposed deletion of Armorial of Lord High Chancellors of Great Britain

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Proposed deletion of Armorial of Chancellors of the Exchequer of Great Britain

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Fails WP:N and some other guidelines and policies, like being a trivial intersection of characteristics, and a gallery. People have a personal (or family) coat of arms, and are chancellor: neither has a bearing on the other, the combination doesn't provide any additional information or insight.

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