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DYK for Cornélie Falcon

The DYK project (nominate) 12:04, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

How to show referenced matrerial

You present an interesting format, with which I agree and which could become "standard" if agreed up0n by the WikProject Opera:

References

The general heading for all

Notes

Cited sources

Other sources

We should get a consensus here, and if agreed to, change the WP:Opera guidelines. Viva-Verdi (talk) 04:00, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I also think this a good idea. Though I note the formatting is with a semi-colon (presumably to avoid an over-long TOC) rather than ===. --Kleinzach 04:10, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
Using the semicolon is an idea I picked up from a featured article that I read. (Don't remember now which specific article, since it was a while ago, but here is an example: Trade dollar (United States coin).) Yes, the idea is to avoid adding so many subheadings to the TOC. There are other ways to create a bold faux subheading than the semicolon, but it's one of the easiest. The guidelines for footnoting seem to allow different approaches to this in Wikipedia articles. I'm not sure whether we really need to standardize it. I added the "Other sources" section to Aureliano in Palmira as a place to list refs we have apparently not yet examined or cited which might be useful for expanding and improving the article. I am hoping to find a source which will explain why Romani is thought to be the librettist versus Romanelli. Personally I am skeptical about the Ricordi vocal score, since it was published much later after the premiere, and putting Romani's name on it, who had become quite famous by then, might have been thought likely to bolster sales rather more than the unknown Gian Francesco Romanelli. The 1816 libretto was published so soon after the premiere, that the librettist was probably still active, and may have been known to the publisher. Anyway, I have no sources which support these ideas, and they are merely my opinions. Unfortunately, Richard Osborne does not cite a source for attributing it to Romani. --Robert.Allen (talk) 05:15, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
I am in favour of standardizing the reference format because this has caused problems in the past — and the semi-colon is a good idea. ('Other sources' could be optional.) Let's deal with Aureliano in Palmira on the article page. (My main concern is multiple Romanells.) --Kleinzach 05:51, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Cruvelli

Hi Robert, thanks, glad you liked it etc.... Good to know that someone actually reads this stuff! Yes it wasn't quite the right choice of words. I meant that the way in which the new management turned its back quite forcefully on The Bloody Nun negatively affected the future career in Paris of Palmyre Wertheimber who was trying to establish herself there in that production.

  • The reason for the fudge was that I was merely re-rendering an idea I had read elsewhere. The article was based on whatever suitable sources I could readily lay hands on sitting here at my desk. Possibly this point was in the Andrew Gann or Huebner writings which I cited in footnote 43, both of which I found online, but I can't be sure (Lumley or Mapleson somewhere?). I have forgotten. I did not actually know what became of Wertheimber, so I hinted at what was meant but hesitated to say anything more definite. Eebahgum (talk) 21:37, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps the new fudge is an improvement?Eebahgum (talk) 22:55, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
That's more like it! Thankyou for coming to the rescue, an excellent edit! A pleasure to be improved upon by one who knows the facts. Good wishes, Eebahgum (talk) 09:46, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Teamwork Barnstar
For your assiduous attention to historical detail, always backed up by solid references. For a wealth of small careful edits spread out over many articles. Every time you modify one of my edits, it is always a distinct improvement. Please keep up your thoroughly professional work. Foobarnix (talk) 13:08, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. I admit I am not usually shy about changing someone else's edits, and it's always a bit disconcerting when it happens to me. I usually have an initially negative reaction, and it sometimes takes awhile to get over it. But like it says at the bottom of the edit window: "If you do not want your writing to be edited, ... then do not submit it here." --Robert.Allen (talk) 18:27, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

The New Grove Dictionary of Opera

Are you intending to change all the references to Grove? (There are a lot of them.) The book does have the definite article of course, but the Wiki page is New Grove Dictionary of Opera. (I'm not sure why I omitted the article in 2005 — maybe because of Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians which was not mine.) Do you want to move it? --Kleinzach 09:42, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

I was just looking for the policy about it, but just glancing at a number of articles, it appears that if "The" is the first word of a book title that it should be in the Wikipedia article title. If you agree, perhaps we should add a requested move (the redirect has more than one edit), but I think maybe we should link the policy in the rationale. I have to log off now, but if you want to pursue it, please do, or I can look for the policy again later on and try to write up a rationale. (Thanks for the note.) --Robert.Allen (talk) 09:52, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm not bothered either way, so it's fine by me if you can find a guideline and move it — and Grove Music. (I'm just against linking to redirects.) BTW the References guideline is now official for WP:CM. --Kleinzach 10:14, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure I favor moving Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians (if that is the article you meant), since "The" was only added for particular editions, and the article seems to be about all the editions. --Robert.Allen (talk) 21:08, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
My copy of vol. 18 (1980 reprinted 1995) certainly has 'The . . .' Ah, but you must be referring to 'Grove' vs 'New Grove'. Maybe the title should be 'The New Grove . . .' then?--Kleinzach 01:49, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
The second and fifth editions were titled Grove's Dictionary of Music and Musicians, and the article includes them (as well as the first). --Robert.Allen (talk) 03:17, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Do you mean it went, Grove, New Grove, Grove, New Grove from one edition to another? In any case we can't have 'Uncle Tom Cobley and all' titled articles, The norm is to use the current title. --Kleinzach 04:09, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Regarding linking redirects, it seems to be OK if an article might be created at the redirect in the future (Wikipedia:Manual of Style (linking)#Redirects). --Robert.Allen (talk) 21:18, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
Where does it say that? Linking to redirects confuses the reader. People get annoyed when they follow links to things that aren't there.--Kleinzach 01:59, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Take a look at this, which maybe says what I mean better: WP:NOTBROKEN. An example for us might be Salle de la Bourse. If we get more info on this theatre and create a separate article for it, the link might point to the new article. Although, in this case I'm uncertain whether that is the name we would end up selecting. --Robert.Allen (talk) 03:17, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
The problem with Salle de la Bourse is the article it points to. It's a silly idea to make this kind of confusing compendium. Each separate entity should have its own unambiguous article. Incidentally, there is nothing wrong with having short articles. All encyclopedias have them. --Kleinzach 04:15, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Théâtre de la Gaîté

I don't know if you are still interested in this theatre? I am minded to separate it into smaller, but more easily understood, articles but perhaps you would like to comment first? See here. --Kleinzach 06:23, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

File:Frederica von Stade - Mahler Songs - Album Cover.jpg

Per my removal of File:Frederica von Stade - Mahler Songs - Album Cover.jpg from the Frederica von Stade article. Non-free images should be used as sparingly as possible in Wikipedia, and I felt the album cover image was just being used as a substitute in the absence of an actual photo of the artist. memphisto 10:48, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Over the years Wikipedia has tightened up its use of non-free media. In the past album covers were frequently used in an artist's main article and discography; but nowadays they are generally only used in album articles as a means of visually identifying that particular album.
As for the Frederica von Stade article, the best result would be finding a photograph of the artist that can be licensed under creative commons, and uploading it to Wikimedia. For instance [1] has a license which is not completely compatible with Wikimedia, but the photographer might be willing to help. memphisto 23:21, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Re DYK of La cour de Célimène

Well, once the reviewer had given up on the synopsis, the problem seemed to be the words "will be staged for the first time in nearly a century and a half by Wexford Festival Opera in October 2011" - there doesn't seem to be a single reliable source that actually says that. Anyway, I got fed up with all the toing and froing and just decided to let it drop. DYK is no big deal and I suppose I could have formulated it differently. Thanks for the support, anyway. I have this suspicion that the reviewer might be a lawyer! --GuillaumeTell 10:58, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

The DYK rules say that nominations have to be new (created less than six days ago, I think) or else must have been expanded five-fold. While there's a bit of information about the opera here and there (e.g. in the recording's booklet), I doubt if it can be expanded by that much, even after I've seen it at Wexford. But feel free to add what you can. --GuillaumeTell 16:55, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. I really have very little experience with this. I agree, there isn't that much additional to add. --Robert.Allen (talk) 20:06, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

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Piano music of Gabriel Fauré

Having had the very considerable benefit of your comments on the Offenbach article, I wonder if I can interest you in another article on French music, which I have at peer review, and on which I should be most grateful for input if you have the time and inclination. Tim riley (talk) 19:01, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

File:Théâtre Lyrique (Place du Châtelet) 1862 - Huebner 1990 plate8.jpg

Hi Robert, there are some questions about this image that hopefully you can answer. Please see User talk:Brianboulton#Les pêcheurs de perles recordings for details. Jappalang (talk) 03:02, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi Robert. Les salles de spectacle construites par Victor Louis à Bordeaux: au Palais-Royal et à la place Louvois would indeed be in the US public domain by virtue of publication before 1923 ({{PD-1923-abroad}}). Does the book identify the artist of the plates? I ask this because although generally publishers/authors are assumed to be the copyright holders (of the book), in most cases, copyright of artworks belong to the artists. If not, we stick to Guadet and Prudent. As joint authors, the copyright subsist till 70 years after the year the last of them has died (I think it is safe to presume that neither of them would be too old to have "died for France"). Without knowledge of Prudent, we would have to hazard probabilities.

For a French book to lapse in copyright in next year (2012), its author would have to die in 1941 (2012 - 70 - 1). Prudent would be 73 years old (1941 - 1868) if he was alive in that year. That (alive and kicking at 73) is quite probable, barring any unnatural death or major illness. As such, I think it is more safer to upload scans from the book to Wikipedia with {{PD-1923-abroad}}. The case to upload to Commons could probably argued for in 2029 or later (then it would depend on how many people would think Prudent could have lived till 90 years old). Jappalang (talk) 22:09, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Since the artists for each plate are identified, then the copyrights duration depend on their deaths. Note that since they are engravings (after or based on previous illustrations), the copyright is based on the engraver's death and the original illustrator's (for derivative consideration). It involves more effort as now you would have to determine from those single-name mentions (a common convention at that time, since presumably the engravers/artists are probably well-known then) who are the copyright holders and how long did they lived till. It would be much easier to "dump" the scans on Wikipedia with {{PD-1923-abroad}} since then we need not bother with research on those lifespans. Jappalang (talk) 01:13, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas from London...

...and a very Happy New Year, Robert! Thanks so much for all your work at the Opera Project. All the best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:09, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Likewise! --Robert.Allen (talk) 20:11, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Peer review

Thank you so much for your kind comments in re the Fauré piano music article. I imagine the Irish composer Charles Villiers Stanford doesn't appear all that often on your radar, but I have the tetchy old boy up for peer review if you have time and inclination to look in. Perfectly understand if not, of course. Happy New Year! Tim riley (talk) 15:26, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Monteverdi's lost operas

Thank you for fixing my problem with the Monteverdi operas template. Any comments you may have on the article would be most welome, when it comes to peer review in a week or so (or on the talkpage). Brianboulton (talk) 00:34, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Jean-Vital Jammes

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Thanks for your last message and for initializing the Wikipedia article about Jean-Vital !
However, this article has been written from sources which are compilation books or newspapers copying one another without any verification. I have been gathering precise and official documents about Jean-Vital for about six years. These are either official French documents or family documents and photographs. My documents are “primary sources” in Wikipedia understanding, but I assert that they approach the truth closier than fanciful texts of “Touchatout” ! I will try during the next weeks to give you more valid information according to the rules of Wikipedia.
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Charles/Henri Duponchel

I notice you've moved the article for Charles (Edmond) Duponchel to Henri Duponchel. He's referenced as both. Do you have any idea what the man's full name was? It would help to address this problem in the article. Pkeets (talk) 22:50, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

The change I made was based on the cited source which only gives Henri as described in the note. I have not seen a birth certificate, but that is not always the preferred name in any case. Many later authors were possibly unaware of Tamvaco's findings and use the traditional names of Charles (or Edmond). The main problem is that most contemporary sources only use the surname. Apparently at some point or other, one or two historians gave him the first name Charles or Edmond and everyone else followed suit. --Robert.Allen (talk) 23:12, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
It's not Charles or Edmond, but Charles-Edmond, and it's not just a source or two that calls him that. See GoogleBooks search. I see Tamvaco's explanation in the notes. Perhaps Charles-Edmond should be included in the first paragraph as an alternate name? Pkeets (talk) 23:47, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
The Google results (I don't have the time to look now) are not surprising since Tamvaco's findings are so recent. Huebner is the one I used for "Charles (Edmond)". It's OK with me if you put Charles-Edmond in the lead, but try to link something online. (Thanks for checking it out.) We need to get Tamvaco's book to verify this and see on what his conclusion is based. Or maybe Voceditenore, who is so good at researching things like this (or our new French informatician Jean Guerin) can dig up some interesting official documents. :-). [Update: I believe User:Jean GUERIN 2 is in Paris. He might be willing to check documents at the Paris Opera Library.] --Robert.Allen (talk) 00:01, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

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La tentation

Thanks so much for your work on the article, and especially for the cast list which I couldn't find anywhere!! Cavé and Feuchère evidently await their own articles..... - Best, --Smerus (talk) 11:54, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

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Charles-Edmond Duponchel

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Generally if there are two to three solid sources, it will escape deletion. He may not be worthy of a large article, but I think it's helpful to have something to link to from the Henri Duponchel article. Pkeets (talk) 02:44, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
1821 would have made Charles-Edmond only seventeen? He's described as young at the time, and I thought he would have done the work as a student. I probably didn't find anything on him except the Chevalier notation, then. Pkeets (talk) 02:53, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Did you notice that the source I found listed architect Louis-Martin Berthault for the Rothschild hotel project? I see you list a different architect the the Henri Duponchel article. Pkeets (talk) 03:09, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
I've changed the redirect page to point to the "Duponchel" disambiguation page where there's already an explanation of the confusion. Shouldn't that take care of it? Pkeets (talk) 03:20, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Changing the article title is fine with me. However, he may have worked as an architect with the military. I notice you've added info about correspondence about the Opera and about barracks? Pkeets (talk) 02:13, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

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Philogène Auguste Joseph Duponchel

Robert, could you help me sort this out? Philogene's article (and various sources) say that he died in January 1846, but if his son Auguste died 11 months later in October 1846, there's a conflict of sources. The source we've used in Charles' article gives the "October - 11 months later". Would correcting arithmetic be considered original research? Does it require a footnote? Should we ignore it and just say "several months"? Pkeets (talk) 03:55, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for La tentation

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Villa Paradou

Hi Robert, the information about Charles Garnier being the the architect of the villa derives from wp de [2].Dreamworlds (talk) 11:55, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

ISBNs

Hi! What happened to your ISBN proposal? Did it make it to Bugzilla? Rich Farmbrough, 02:31, 13 May 2012 (UTC).

Capitalization of opera titles

Hi,

But the correct case in French is for sure: Les Fêtes de Paphos, as of rules of French typography. I guess that WP.en respect French typography for French titles, isn't it? Or is there an exception for French opera titles—it would be strange? Bibi Saint-Pol (parler) 19:29, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

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Re: Donald Gramm Article

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In the Donald Gramm article, why do you insist on not using clearly acceptable, and clearly recognizable, date formats that are most widely used in American-style English. I see by the Article's history that you were the primary editor involving all date formatting throughout the article. Using this, you are saying that my formatting of his Birth & Death dates did not comply with WP:DATERET. Of course it wouldn't due to the fact that you set the original date format of the article. And your use if the term "un-American" in reference to the more European-style formatting is very strictly your own. If you are looking for traditional, M-D-Y is very traditionally American. Think about it. Michael David (talk) 21:15, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I understand that it is the primary writer's choice in choosing the date formatting of a given article. I will do the same when I am in that position. However, was it necessary to do a full Undo to revert my edit. That tool is usually reserved for acts of vandalism or other major disruptions to an article. Could you not have simply re-edited the dates? That is common courtesy when dealing with another established member of the editing Community. Michael David (talk) 03:38, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

List of operas by Donizetti

Hi. Well, I suppose it could be started in article space, with the current list omitted and a link to the new one inserted, though with the empty columns (genre, subdivisions, libretto, notes, maybe more?) it would look a little odd initially (and maybe some idiot might put it up for speedy deletion). I'll add this and your name to my note to Michael. It's not the only missing list in Category:Lists of operas by composer, of course (no Verdi, for example), some of the lists are quite short (e.g. Smetana), there's no standard format for the lists (understandable) - and I've never heard of a few of the composers (e.g. Monsigny, Guglielmi, who presumably have their fans on WP) nor any of the music of some others (e.g. Porpora). BTW, I see that I've accidentally duplicated some of your additions to Gianni di Parigi - I'm planning to move the Scores section up to join Osborne and Commons and then eliminate duplication. Plus I'm going to enlarge the synopsis. And I really ought to get a copy of Ashbrook. So much to do, so little done! Best. --GuillaumeTell 10:06, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Update: Michael has created the table as you can see from the new header above (I don't think we need the Gaetano, do we?). I've listed a few things on his Talk page that might be fixable. I'll mostly be out of action until tomorrow afternoon but will look in again before my bedtime. --GuillaumeTell 18:11, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Have a look at Alan Palgut's latest activities. I see that he's altered "picciolo" to "piccolo", but "picciolo" is a genuine Italian word (see [[3]]) and is used by Ashbrook. The question in my mind is what is the English translation of the title? --GuillaumeTell 18:03, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

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Marino Faliero, Doge of Venice

No worries about the conflicts - they just sped me up a bit in what I was doing. ;) I'm surprised you don't like the sfn refs, as I think they help with editing by clearing all the sources out of the article text so that people don't have to edit around them as much. I started using them a while back, after seeing them in some of the FA articles I looked at. When it comes down to it, though, any reffing that gives page numbers and isbns is great to me. I'm done with the refs on the Faliero article. Thanks for adding that great image btw. INeverCry 19:38, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Another benefit of sfn is that it automatically groups refs together by page, eliminating the need for the old <ref name="etc"/>. INeverCry 20:03, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Lalla

Hi Robert. Thanks so much for finding that Italian copy of the libretto! And also for transferring the image to Commons for me. My regular computer was temporarily kaput and with my teeny laptop, I just couldn't face messing around with the Commons interface. Am off for a month in Italy with very sparse internet access. Take care and have a great summer. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 16:30, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

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Excellent scans of French architecture plans and elevations

I don't use Wikipedia much so I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place, but I wanted to thank your for incredible contributions to Wikimedia Commons! I especially appreciate your scans of Palais du Louvre. Wow. Often the images found on web are very low-quality, which is such a pain with detailed drawings. From your scans one can easily make out every dot and line.

Thank you again, and keep up the good work. Ihmemies2 (talk) 00:44, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Composer templates

I would think this would be a more common issue with categories, but I have yet to come across it. Category:Composers has many more subcategories than Category:Composer templates. If I was to create the kind of category you propose I would try to name it so that the function was explicit. Something like "Category: All composer templates" or "Category:Composer templates regardless of era".

Apparently one may search within categories, according to Help:Category#Searching_for_articles_in_categories. Thus one should be able to search for "incategory:'Composer templates'" and the results should be everything within Category:Composer templates. Hyacinth (talk) 18:38, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Searching for a specific composer one should be able to simply click "View...500" results and then use "Go to find" (Ctrl+F) (unless for some reason the composer's name isn't in the title of the template, which I don't think is or should be the case).
However, Help:Searching#Syntax has more on the incategory search. What I find there seems to ruin all my advice.
According to the help page "This feature [incategory search] doesn't return pages in subcategories." When I search for "incategory:'Composer templates'" the second result that comes up is "Template:John Philip Sousa" which is now categorized in "Category:Romantic composer templates". As the contents of a subcategory it shouldn't come up. I assume the reason it currently does come up is due to a lag (like when you view a category and pages just added don't yet show or pages just removed still show as being in it), and that soon it and other articles won't show up in the results (and thus using CTRL+F, won't be of help).
This would explain why the search "Tchaikovsky incategory:'Composer templates'" comes up with no results (the Tchaikovsky templates are in subcategories, not direct member categories of "Category:Composer templates"). The search method is sound, the location is wrong:
  1. Tchaikovsky incategory:"Romantic composer templates"
does show results. The search may be limited with a second term.
Lastly, I can use the regular search box in the corner for this search. By "Help page search box" I assume you mean the search page that comes up after one uses the regular search box in the corner. Hyacinth (talk) 23:54, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

over/underlinking

Could you take a look at http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Linking#What_generally_should_not_be_linked_can_we_bring_this_to_closure

The "one link" rule/enforcement has gotten out of hand, I'm trying to get something closer to rationality. You express views that seem to be near the middle of the spectrum on this issue, and if my proposal works for you, it might achieve some consensus. I'd appreciate any refinements to the proposal. If it comes to something you'd support, I'd appreciate that too. Thanks Boundlessly (talk) 21:55, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

I take your point (and I have wasted FAR too much time on this). Can you just pop a one-line comment in, "I agree with any proposal that reduces the weight of the 'one link' rule" or something like that. The rule seems to be the product of only about four zealots. A few votes will do the trick. I will try hard to drive this one to closure this time. Thanks. Boundlessly (talk) 00:30, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Francesco Florimo

Thank you for making a real article out of my lame start.--Wetman (talk) 17:21, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks

Yes, it's tedious, but I've gradually worked my way through Wexford and Opera North and finally geared up to start Glyndebourne. I do need to include some of the history that isn't in the Festival/Opera House/Country House articles, but I do have quite a few books and programmes that should help. Season's Greetings! --GuillaumeTell 01:15, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Maria Stuarda formatting

Thanks for your note. What you say makes sense - now that I've read the relevant section to which you linked! I've made some changes, but feel free to make your own if you feel it still doesn't look right. I'm aiming to expand this a bit more as I do research for a talk I'm giving at the breakfast prior to the Met-in-HD screening on 19 January here in Santa Fe. Viva-Verdi (talk) 18:47, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikiproject notes in articles

Pls see Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Wikiproject notes in articles - The issues may be much bigger then just the note on the pages - However I believe the viability of the note its self is what we should talk about at this time.Moxy (talk) 23:55, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Karl Beck

Hi again. Speaking of obscure musicians, how about Karl Beck (tenor)? Who knew that the first Lohengrin would end up as a master baker! It's just amazing how many fascinating stories are still out there waiting to be researched and written about.

Cheers. -- Jack of Oz [Talk] 11:53, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

ISBN Searching

I've started a new discussion at Wikipedia_talk:ISBN#ISBN_Searching, I note that you previously were interested in this page and would be grateful for any comments. Apologies in advance if this is not relevant. ---- nonsense ferret 01:05, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

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Date format

You asked (opera Joseph), - what can I say about the preferable date format, with this threat pending? I dont want to be "suspended from this project for a period ranging from one femasecond to numerous millenia". My favourite edit, from an editor I miss greatly, is this. He understood, you too? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:51, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)There is absolutely no mention whatsoever of date formatting in that first (joking) "threat". So what is the point of mentioning it in that context? It merely adds to people's confusion. Voceditenore (talk) 17:01, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes, this is a brand of humor, which I much enjoy. Not to be taken personally. (I still don't see the connection to date formats. Not that it matters, I guess. --Robert.Allen (talk) 18:12, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Will it help your enjoyment further that the term that I am not permitted to repeat describes for example that a date formatted in the template {{start date}} (as in the quoted edit and other infoboxes) it is ready for use in calculations, comparisons, and presentation in different formats and languages, - preferable to a simple string, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:18, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
An example of technophobia perhaps. (Thanks!) --Robert.Allen (talk) 21:28, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Now technophobia is a term I don't know, I am better in German, where we have different names for the months and a "." after the day, - the same "technical" date format results in different representation there, and I don't have to think about it, - call it lazy ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:20, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Oh, sorry, I did not mean you. I meant the other editor. --Robert.Allen (talk) 22:49, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Precious

French opera behind the scenes
Thank you for quality contributions to articles on historic French opera and its performance, adding to a theatre, such as Hôtel de Bourgogne (theatre), for checking the precise way a musical work was termed by the composer, for moves reflecting correct spelling, for your interest in Busoni, for gnomish work as adding library numbers, and for being open for accessibility requests , - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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Please read my thoughts and history, for better understanding, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:57, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 525th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize. New operas I enjoyed were Bluthochzeit and Under Milk Wood: An Opera, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:21, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Two years ago ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:59, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Three years ago, you were recipient no. 525 of Precious, a prize of QAI! - I enjoyed singing a piece composed for Paris, as one of three altos, - a French friend now started Kari Løvaas, or should it be Lövaas? Question on project opera. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:25, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: I would favor the Norwegian spelling for the article title, with the German alternative in the lead, but I don't feel strongly about this. --Robert.Allen (talk) 19:57, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Thank you, that's what we have. It's just that I find source after source saying Lövaas, as if she preferred that for performing internationally. I actually think the Norwegian way looks nicer, but I don't find it on recordings and in reviews. Thanks for your feedback! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:26, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Four years ago now! - I just saw French "opera": Jeanne d'Arc au bûcher, staged by Àlex Ollé, impressive! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:23, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

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Fatinitza

Thank you for your help here! It's much appreciated. I think that gets every major role's performer except maybe Steipann (who isn't particularly major in the first place, but probably has the most to do of the remaining uncredited cast). I don't suppose Ganzl talks about voice types for the cast? I didn't want to fill that in without a source. Adam Cuerden (talk) 12:47, 22 July 2013 (UTC)


Edits

Are you sure that commas after a preposition phrase (such as In 1896,) are incorrect? I've seen that be done on many notable articles that have semi-protected such as LeBron James (middle of page) and Bill Gates (middle of page). In addition, when I even first try to edit the article people have done the same thing.


I understand your point but for preposition phrases for dates in that case, but do you think that I should add a comma after prepositional phrases (with years that come before dependent clauses) when:

Common starter words for introductory clauses that should be followed by a comma include after, although, as, because, if, since, when, while.

Ex: While I was at school in 1921, my teachers were happy. Because she was in London in 1921, she couldn't visit her parents.


And if the prepositional phrases with a date such as (if it comes before a dependent clause) takes up more space than just two words or half of the sentence than a comma should be used

From 1928 to 1938, Henry worked at a hospital

Creating graphics from scores

I noted that you created several impressive graphics of sections from the score for Hamlet. Was it your own method, or is there an instruction somewhere in Wikipedia? I would like to try. Many thanks. Cg2p0B0u8m (talk) 21:04, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the positive feedback! I don't remember now, but I would imagine that I probably first displayed the score pages with Apple's Preview program at 100% resolution and either used the program's selection tool and copy command or partial screen shots (on an Apple: ctrl+shift+command+4) to copy the images from the IMSLP pdf file. (I've recently been using an Apple Macintosh program called ImageVacuum, which is buggy, but can often be used to extract pdf images at their original resolution, which is preferable.) I then edited the images with Adobe Photoshop Elements, which I now purchase for download from Amazon. (It seems I was using version 4 at that time. I'm now at version 10, and planning to upgrade soon to version 11.) Hope that helps. It took me a while to learn the ins-and-outs of the Photoshop editor, but I keep getting better with practice. I found image editing takes a lot of patience, with lots of trial-and-error. The article Commons:Help:Scanning was helpful to me (altho I'm sure I did not use a scanner in this case). It has info on image file types that is generally useful. Also, I can recommend User:Adam Cuerden as an expert at this kind of thing. Perhaps he uses Windows, which might be helpful, in case you do not use an Apple. --Robert.Allen (talk) 22:02, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
this may be a bit beyond me then! I can use Photoshop a bit, but not Apple. The Scanning article may be helpful, as my printer can scan. I will also have to learn what to do to upload to Commons. We'll see... Cg2p0B0u8m (talk) 22:15, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
I usually use this form to upload to Commons. It's a bit complicated and also takes some practice, but I prefer it to the Wizard. --Robert.Allen (talk) 22:34, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Saw this on that new thing that says when you're mentioned. I do use Windows and the free program GIMP, so ask me if you need help. Key thing is to watch copyright - oldest possible scores are best, to avoid any potential rights gained from editing the scores. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:46, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

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Why do you hide your interesting ideas on the side navbox on talk:Carmen. I suggest you place them on the opera talk or the arbcase workshop, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:21, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm not "hiding" anything, just trying to respond to Michael's perfectly reasonable comment and question. --Robert.Allen (talk) 19:07, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
Please don't misunderstand me, I meant only few people read the Carmen talk, many should defend the side navbox in the case. I like your idea about something like a logo. What do you think of using Wagner's signature for it? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:06, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Since the human brain processes facial images extremely efficiently (a special skill that evolved much earlier than the ability to read and write), I think the composer portraits are ideal for this purpose. --Robert.Allen (talk) 13:47, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

‎Years and parentheses in notes and sources

Greetings Robert: Now that I've read your note and WP:CITESHORT, I see the logic of all this, so thanks for pointing these things out. 'Fraid I'd never read WP:etc...... Of course, many of the articles combine both forms, so I shall be aware from now on and try to be consistent. Best, Viva-Verdi (talk) 22:46, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

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Dancourt

Glad to see you having so much fun with Monsieur Dancourt :-) There's some interesting stuff on the French page:

  • "En 1759, Dancourt publie la fameuse réponse de l'Arlequin de Berlin à M.. J. J. Rousseau, citoyen de Genève."

I see that you've provided a link to this. It puts Dancourt neatly into the Querelle des Bouffons but he's not mentioned by name in either enWP or frWP.

  • "Il l'envoie ensuite à Bayreuth, dans la troupe des comédiens français de la margravine, où Heurteaux prend le pseudonyme de Dancourt (probablement le nom de scène de sa mère ; il signe dorénavant L.H. Dancourt)."

"He then went to Bayreuth in the French acting troupe of the Margravine, where Heurteaux took the pseudonym of Dancourt (probably his mother's stage name; from this point onwards he signed his name L.H. Dancourt)"

  • Il meurt dans l'indigence aux Incurables.

He died a pauper at the Hôpital Laennec in Paris.

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I took a brief look at the French article today. Unfortunately, it seems to only cite the césar website and provides no other sources. I will try to look at it more carefully later on. --Robert.Allen (talk) 19:06, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

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WikiProject Classical Music, Composition Task Force Revival

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Tuileries edit

Hello Robert, thank you for your note
I’m guessing you are referring to this edit of mine. The reason for it was consistency, mainly; the articles refers to “the Louvre Palace (Palais de Louvre)” (i.e. English, then italicised French in parenthesis) elsewhere in the article, so it seemed best to treat the Tuileries link in the same way.
If you are asking why we use italics at all, it is usual to put non–English terms in italics, and the relevant guideline has "Wikipedia prefers italics for phrases in other languages". If you are contending that “Palais de Tuileries” is used enough in English to qualify as a loanword per MOSFOREIGN, you may well be right; but in that case (or rather, in this case!) we would have two English terms together; one of them (the latter, as the former is the linked article’s title) would be redundant. (Also, I would argue that the common name in English is actually “the Tuileries” or “Tuileries Palace”, and using the French form to say the same thing is just pretentious)
In fact, as the subject of the article isn’t the Tuileries at all, adding the non-English term to qualify an English one is also pretty redundant; it would make a lot of sense just to delete it altogether.
Anyway, there you have it, Moonraker12 (talk) 18:48, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your note:
I’ve looked at the article again, and taken out the terms in parenthesis. I can’t see they serve any purpose, and (like you say) it’s probably a foible of WP to put them in at all. MOS says foreign terms should be used sparingly, but a lot of people seem to take no notice of that, and chuck them in anyway. I trust that is OK with you.
As for the whole putting-foreign-words-in-italics thing, you may be right about media today: It was what I was taught, but that was way back in the 20th century, and the books I tend to read can be as old as I am.
Regards, Moonraker12 (talk) 10:56, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

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Don Pasquale

Sorry. I'd looked at the Donizetti article, not the specific article for this opera. Viva-Verdi (talk) 14:39, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your note and your kind words. As this opera is coming up here in Santa Fe thus summer, I thought I'd get it to look a bit better. We know that people view Wiki articles, and that new tool is wonderful for producing page view graphs. Do you know it? I'm also working on a big expansion of the main Donizetti article itself, as it is severely lacking. Viva-Verdi (talk) 21:18, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
Just saw your ISBN change for Weinstock and checked my copy, which is from 1963 and for which I paid $1 (used) sometime, from somewhere way back....(so the price tag says!) Anyway, it has that short ISBN which I must have added some time ago. Shall go back through other articles and change it..... Viva-Verdi (talk) 21:28, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
Oh right! LOC number, not ISBN. Here's the new tool, set for La boheme, but you choose your title and time frame - and voila! Viva-Verdi (talk) 21:59, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
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Not clear from the source, so have to leave it pointing to the disambiguation page. --Robert.Allen (talk) 08:59, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

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No wrap

Had no idea this existed. It's a lot easier than trying to calculate max width to prevent wrapping. Shall use it all the time now! Thanks Viva-Verdi (talk) 03:56, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

No problem Viva-Verdi, glad you like it! --Robert.Allen (talk) 03:59, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

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For your tireless and much appreciated work in gradually fixing all those links to Almanacco Amadeus. Thank you, Robert! Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 16:45, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

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amadeusonline.eu/net

Hi Robert, I've just noticed that the Don Giovanni edit already had an amadeusonline.eu address -- meaning that you had already repaired the link. Now, I am confused. I used the special search to look for articles including "amadeusonline.net+2014": https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=100&offset=0&profile=default&search=amadeusonline.net+2014 Weirdly, three or four at the end of the list are .eu (!)

Sorry about treading on your toes, I wanted to start on the articles that you hadn't got to yet ... Scarabocchio (talk) 22:34, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Scarabocchio, Don't worry about my toes! The more editors that pitch in, the sooner we will get all this done. Re Don Giovanni, it looks like Michael Bednarek made the change to ".eu" on 29 July. Searches rely on indexes, which may not have been updated to reflect this edit when the search was performed. Or possibly they add on inexact matches at the end. I'm not sure what the explanation is. We should test it again in a week to see if it still shows up in the search. Then it is more likely the latter. --Robert.Allen (talk) 01:44, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

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Farnese Hercules

"as the title of a work of art, shouldn't this name be italicized?". No it shouldn't, actually. "Hercules" may be considered a title, but "Farnese Hercules" is a name, like Book of Kells, Rokeby Venus etc, and not italicized. I hope you haven't been doing lots of these. Johnbod (talk) 00:34, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello User:Johnbod, Well no, this is the only one I did, but there does seem to be some difference of opinion on this. For example, The Oxford Dictionary of Art italicizes it [4], as does Haskel in Taste and the Antique: The Lure of Classical Sculpture, 1500-1900 [5]. And here's an example of Rokeby Venus [6]. --Robert.Allen (talk) 02:36, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
That is true, but you've no doubt noticed there are rather more the other way - all the old books, but I think over half of the modern ones. Is there a split across the Atlantic? The American books all seem not to italicize. Rather oddly no one seems (here or in comparable cases) to adopt the rather logical style "Farnese Hercules". Johnbod (talk) 02:39, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Robert, any objections to requesting a deletion of the {{Amadeus}} template? .. it was a redirection which only had one incoming link. I have just replaced that with a direct link to the {{Almanacco}} template so it's now an orphan. Scarabocchio (talk) 19:34, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Scarabocchio: I don't see any reason to delete the redirect. Redirects are useful even when there are no wikilinks using the redirect. Since it is an alternative name the redirect helps people to find the template, when they cannot remember exactly which name is used for the template. That was why I added it. (As I remember, t took me quite some time to remember that the name was Almanacco rather than Amadeus or Amadeus online or some such.) --Robert.Allen (talk) 19:57, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
OK. I was thinking that it might add to the confusion ... but I don't really know how people find templates, so if this helps, leave it. Scarabocchio (talk) 07:56, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Yep. Such redirects are a big help to save time in finding templates. I'd say keep it. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:22, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks for the organizing work you have done on the Machine de Marly article. The Notes/Bibliography format is a good template to follow for future work. If you've got the energy, the French version of the article on which I'm also working could use the same touch.Dpendery (talk) 13:37, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

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La Basoche

Hi. You added a cite from Ganzl regarding the American production. Would you please also add the page number(s) where this is discussed? Thanks! -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:47, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

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Oh, quite right, p. 120. Thanks! All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:07, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi. You've added a bunch of non-blue-linked names to the article. I would like to delete them. If any of them is ever the subject of his or her own article, we can add them back in. Do you object? Also, with respect to the minor revivals (everything except the London and NY premieres), we should give only the year of the production, not the exact dates. Without having to go into gory detail on these changes, the basic idea is to focus on the blue-linked people and the most important productions. All the best. -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:50, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Greetings User:Ssilvers, There is absolutely no reason to dumb-down the article with less specific information, when the information given is pretty much exactly as it was given in the source; so yes, I do object to deleting names and dates. (If the source only provided years, then that's what I would have used, but the source, which is a general compendium of information, like the Wikipedia, gives the exact dates, and so should we.) --Robert.Allen (talk) 03:54, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi again, User:Ssilvers, It's not like these names or dates can be found in linked articles, in which case, I would say that's not a problem, but they are pretty much unique to this article, so we should keep them as specific as we can. Robert.Allen (talk) 04:12, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Also, if you delete the information, there is a very good chance it will not be added back. --Robert.Allen (talk) 04:34, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
It's not dumbing down, its focusing on what is important. This is what editorial choices are about. I'm tired of arguing with you, but I don't think you're seeing the big picture. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:36, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Greetings User:Ssilvers, I was trained as a scientist, so I prefer to give as many details as we have access to, and I think they are important. They were important enough for Gänzl to include in his book, so in my view, your opinion as a Wikipedia editor is less important. --Robert.Allen (talk) 04:48, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

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Jean-Joseph Vadé

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And thanks for your many edits to these theater related articles. It shows how interested you are with the topic but it also shows how much more careful I should be. Just, unless I'm mistaken, Les Halles you linked to are a specific area in Paris whereas "les halles" that are referred to in the original French article more generally evoque market places and wharehouses. Corneilles being a native of Rouen, he first of all knew les halles of his native city and probably not specifically those of Paris. Not that it makes any transcendal difference but just to let you know. LouisAlain (talk) 19:08, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

@LouisAlain: Thanks for the emoticon! And please don't worry about "mistakes" or all my edits. I was mostly trying to make the English a bit more idiomatic. Vadé, genre poissard, and Fréron were all new to me, and interesting. That seemed like a fairly difficult article to translate. You do so many translations, it's an advantage not to have to worry about all the details. Other editors can help out, which is one of the big advantages of the Wikipedia. Re: Les Halles. I kind of thought that might be why you linked the French disambiguation page, but then I thought maybe it was better just to link the Paris one, since it is in English. Feel free to change it back, if you think it's important. Best, --Robert.Allen (talk) 00:29, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Please take a look at this link. My French is not very good, but it may indicate that Vadé actually did frequent "les halles de Paris". --Robert.Allen (talk) 05:37, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Right you were then re Les Halles. Just for the sake of information, the Parisian food market J. J. Vadé used to visit was transfered here (some 20 miles south of Paris) nearly half a century ago. Save the name, there is no more "halles" (in the sense of a market place) in the center of Paris but a gigantic mall over a gigantic underground traffic hub (the largest in Europe as a matter of fact). Have a nice day, LouisAlain (talk) 08:24, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

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That is a good question. Why does Buckingham Palace not have a "The" in front of it but the Tuileries should? Gryffindor (talk) 21:26, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

If that is the common practice then that's fine, even though it's rather strange. It might be because of the direct translation from French. Gryffindor (talk) 19:16, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

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I don't understand why you reverted this. There doesn't appear to be any other mention of Phase Three of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in the Black Panther article, so many readers may not know what the term Phase Three refers to. --Robert.Allen (talk) 01:32, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Busoni- Piano Concerto (2-po rdn) Mvt5.pdf

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