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SailRail

Happy New Year Ritchie. Can't believe I've just spotted this, given I scan WT:DYK every day...! I will have to dig through old papers, but expect more additions to the article today/tomorrow, including confirmation that SailRail is the official brand (that seems to be one of the sticking points on the nom, I think?). I might rework it a bit with a separate section for the non-Ireland stuff. Depends what info I turn up. I can also offer a "cleaner" image of a ticket from my own collection: will upload that. (If you've actually got the Ashford International one in your possession and can part with it, I'd love to add it to my collection...! ;) ) Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 13:28, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

I started the article a few months back, surprised there wasn't one, and ran out of sources so I didn't know how to progress any further - I think there was just about enough information to get it out of "stub" class and towards a DYK nom. Basically, having read about SailRail on seat61.com, I persuaded a group of us to go on a trip to Dublin, we met up with Smirkybec and had an enjoyable evening in the pub chatting about Irish history, architecture, and who knows what else, and I suggested writing the article as part of the conversations there. I've got the AFK - DFP tickets on me, and I guess you can have them if you pop along to one of the London meet-ups and I'm there. It just means I'll have to do another trip to Dublin to get another ticket. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 13:35, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Done about as much as I can for now, although I feel there may be more to write on the pre-SailRail brand history if I look through older Journals (not sure how relevant it would be though). I have often been tempted to visit my relatives in the Glens of Antrim by using a SailRail; Hove to Ballymena via Holyhead/Dublin is only £64.80, and I would get some very interesting rail mileage in... Hopefully the nom will be approved; I will keep it on my watchlist. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 15:31, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Question

Hello, i have been working on the Draft:Davide Lo Surdo following the notability criteria.

Could you kindly tell me if it meets the notability criteria? Since i worked following the notability criteria, i think it’s acceptable but i would like to have your opinion if possible.

Thank you so very much in advance and i wish you all the best 91.80.12.230 (talk) 01:56, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

I have accepted the draft, after doing my own Google News search and finding a number of dedicated pieces, including one in the Italian Rolling Stone about him. That's probably enough to meet the acceptance criteria for mainspace. Simply not having many English sources is not reason in itself to not have an article. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 12:07, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Grafton Street

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Grafton Street you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of LunaEatsTuna -- LunaEatsTuna (talk) 12:24, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

notability and FRSA/MBE

Hey, Ritchie! Would these awards support a plausible claim to notability all by themselves (at Tommy Miah)? Pretty much every source is questionable, I'm not finding much on the googlz, and to me from Order of the British Empire and Royal Society of the Arts it looks like these are not awards that would get one over the hump in the absence of anything else. Valereee (talk) 16:47, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Oops, and I see Ritchie's been AWOL for a few days. So any TPS, feel free to tell me how ignorant I am. Valereee (talk) 16:48, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I was taking a short break, no real reason other than I've just been busy elsewhere doing odds and ends and not really had the hours to sit down and do some writing / researching. Anyway, I had a look for sources, and there probably is enough stuff to put together a short encyclopedia article. I'm a bit concerned about stuff like this which, if that is a BLP compliant source (I don't know anything about the Dhaka Tribune but it looks like it is) then it needs to be cited with care. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 14:25, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, the arrest is iffy for including, it isn't being covered much in RS and at this point it's just a dispute over payment for services. I'm more wondering if the guy's really even notable. Except for the MBE and FRSA, everything looks to have been self-generated. Valereee (talk) 14:48, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Grafton Street

The article Grafton Street you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Grafton Street and Talk:Grafton Street/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of LunaEatsTuna -- LunaEatsTuna (talk) 19:58, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

DYK for The Farmer (song)

On 24 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Farmer (song), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Thin Lizzy's debut single only sold 283 copies? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Farmer (song). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Farmer (song)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 12:02, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

2023

The colours of my January calendar image are Ukrainian for a reason. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Good to see that. I did have a "stop the war" banner of my user page for a bit, but I feel even more strongly that the war has got to end, ideally with victory for Ukraine but a mutual armistice with a completely different Russian government would do. Then extradite Putin to The Hague so he can be tried for war crimes. Elsewhere, I expanded Empire of Light that I recently saw at the cinema, and think the mixed / negative reviews that said the "tribute to the magic of cinema is disappointingly mundane" kind of missed what the film was really about, in my view Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 12:29, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Good to know, thanks for sharing! - today, I point at two singers I whose performance I enjoyed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:30, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

today, less pointy: a composition from a remarkable 2022 concert, the sad record of four articles about people who recently died on the Main page at the same time, and singing for Epiphany --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:47, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

pointy again: today's featured article is Osbert Parsley, not by me but Amitchell125 where I commented, including the beginning of my songs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:03, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

I'm on vacation, - click on songs! I tell my own stories now, instead of relying on DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:57, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

I'm not up to speed with the DYK discussions; I just put the odd nomination up. That reminds me, I want to see if Theleekycauldron is up for RfA round 2. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 12:14, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

What broke my interest was that Galina Pisarenko was rejected (first) as not interesting, which looks like censoring to me. Finally hook #19 was taken saying that she studied economy and Norwegian along with voice. How is that interesting?? Look at my present top: that was a real hook in 2012 when my friend had died. Today, we probably would have discussed for weeks and ended up saying that he learned Greek while getting ready to run the family business. Just sad. I work for Recent deaths now (where Pisarenko came from). How many died in the few days of this young year that I took care of? See RD, add Lothar Blumhagen and Carl Hahn (not enough done yet) and Kurt Horres (off the Main page). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:24, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: I think "[watch this space]" is probably the best I've got for the moment :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 06:25, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Today's topics Elisabeth Waterhouse and, yes, Hahn. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:43, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Today's: Elena Manistina, or: why Tchaikovsky's The Enchantress isn't on the Main page, and Clytus Gottwald for whom I made a DYK in 2012 (which would probably be rejected by the current DYK team, up for hookiness and view counts). Two more DYK, then I'm out. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:38, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

I'm back now - Melitta Muszely died, RIP - the other story is 10 years old OTD ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:23, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Grafton Street

The article Grafton Street you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Grafton Street for comments about the article, and Talk:Grafton Street/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of LunaEatsTuna -- LunaEatsTuna (talk) 06:42, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

February songs

that's great! - yesterday's cantata, 300 years later --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:24, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

best wishes for your health! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:39, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

music today: the regional festival - DYK of 13 years ago ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:28, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

How are you? - My story on 24 February is about Artemy Vedel (TFA by Amitchell235), and I made a suggestion for more peace, - what do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:52, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the update! - today: two women whose birthday we celebrate today, 99 and 90! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:06, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

I'm slowly getting back into the things and back at work full-time now; today I think is the first day when I can type an extended reply or conversation, though I still need to rest my arm for a bit afterwards. It will get better, it's just been a bit of a shock all round as you might imagine. Actually, one of the things that doesn't need a lot of manual work is Martinevans123's CCI, which seems to have ground to a halt. I think we need to get that completed if we're ever going to see any chance of him getting unblocked. Should I set up a "CCI donation fund" box on my desk? ;-) Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 13:49, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

I understand shock, - family was shocked that a family member - distant to me but still - fell at home and died. Funeral yesterday. - Yes set up a fund - I remember the CCI for PumpkinSky. I wonder if at a certain point, Martin could say that he understood and with the observation of some friends might get unblocked. Diannaa, what do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:55, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

One of my colleagues, who I've been working with closely for several decades, died last week, and yes it does feel like a shock. As regards Martin, I suspect Diannaa - and indeed, the general community consensus, would probably take completion of the SPI, along with convincing evidence that Martin understands copyright as it relates to Wikipedia, before any unblock can be entertained. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 14:00, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Inactive

For those that are unaware, I suffered an elbow fracture last week, which makes any work on here pretty much difficult to impossible. Can’t say when I’ll be back. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 10:10, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Take care Ritchie! Maybe myself and @SeoR can have some new Monopoly additions done by the time you're back editing :) Smirkybec (talk) 12:00, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Oh, no, Ritchie! I'm so sorry, feel better soon. Valereee (talk) 14:10, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that, Ritchie! Will certainly be happy to work to advance more squares to B and then on for GA. Get well soon! SeoR (talk) 14:31, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

I wish you and your elbow a rapid recovery! Best wishes, --Tryptofish (talk) 19:48, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Wishing you as speedy a recovery as possible, Ritchie. To everyone else coming here, Ritchie has a DYK nom open at Template:Did you know nominations/SailRail, which I have reviewed and needs work. It would be great if anyone could address the review in his place. @SeoR and Smirkybec: if you are willing and able. starship .paint (exalt) 01:00, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Just had a go at addressing the review - and hope your elbow is back to full movement soon Ritchie333! Mike1901 (talk) 16:33, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

DYK has been addressed and is approved, Ritchie, Mike1901 and Hassocks5489. starship .paint (exalt) 08:21, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Best wishes for a speedy recovery! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 02:59, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

That's terrible news! I do hope you recover as soon as possible. Best wishes, SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 16:32, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

It’s been nearly a month since the accident, and I can type with two hands, but still not quite at full speed. Hopefully be back into encyclopedia writing in a week or two. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 13:00, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Glad things are improving! Valereee (talk) 15:46, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Harassment?

There's nothing wrong with you declining the G11 at User:Jaragustin/sandbox, but to revert my standard notification to the user of the tag as "harassment" is crap. I hate talking to you, as you well know, but I couldn't (unfortunately) let this go without at least telling you what I think, even though I know it won't have the slightest impact on your behavior.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:13, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

ianvisits.co.uk

Why are you reinstated a spammy website as references? It is very clearly a self-published blog that fails WP:SPS and WP:UGC 10mmsocket (talk) 08:21, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Clearly you have no interest in these multiple good articles and are coming here to start a fight. Please read WP:CIVIL and have a nice day. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 08:30, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Please assume good faith, I am not looking to start a fight and the fact that I immediately came to your talk page shows that I'm wanting to be civil by trying to understand your reasoning. In the past I have targeted a number of unreliable sources and removed them from multiple articles. In the past couple of weeks I have managed to spot some serious sockpuppetry involved in reference spamming. I loathe spam and I think it's really important that we use proper, reliable references. This site definitely isn't a reliable source and I bet if I looked into it's history it will have been added by very few people, maybe even one or two. 10mmsocket (talk) 08:42, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

"I loathe spam" Aww jeez, not that cliche again. :-( If that is really what you think, then you are suffering from burnout and need to take a break and do something else. Go for a walk, listen to music, take the wife out to dinner, cuddle a cat, write some code - anything really. Come back to Wikipedia when you are calm and relaxed.

Now, I'm going to take one of the examples given, in this case your edit to Trafalgar Square here where you removed a source but not the text that the reference supported. So you left the article with a source from 1840 citing something that claims to have happened in 1928. That's clearly factually incorrect and so your edit made the article worse. It's not hard to work out that the text was added on 03 February 2022 by 2A01:4B00:848C:A600:E990:CFBA:7E90:F94F (talk · contribs), which looks to me like somebody who just wanted to add some random fact on Wikipedia that they thought was worth recording as a one-off action, that they didn't think was worth bothering registering an account for - and why not? After all, we're assuming good faith, right? ;-)

Having said all of that, if you had something like this : "I'm concerned about the claim that the police observation room being established 19 March 1928, which is only cited to IanVisits. I can't find any other reference to this date in any books or news reports that I've looked at. Do you have an additional source of information?" (and especially if you'd prefaced it with "Hi, Ritchie! Hope you're feeling well and the arm's healing okay.") I'd have probably said something like, "Good catch, this was added by an IP just over a year ago, and I can't see any other source for it, so I've removed it". But because you came here and acted like a complete jerk with a temper tantrum, without understanding the actual issues behind the content (cf: WP:CIVIL - comment on the content, not the contributor), I'm less amenable to help. It's always beneficial if you play nice. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 10:17, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

You might want to read WP:CIVIL yourself. I don't appreciate being called a jerk or having a temper tantrum. I'm sure you can make your point without having to resort to that kind of comment. Perhaps a nice walk or cuddle the cat might help you. 10mmsocket (talk) 10:29, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

I wanted to go into detail, because I hoped that it would lead to an understanding. However, it's not difficult for me to find additional sources that name-check Ian Mansfield, such as BBC News, or publish work by him, such as The Guardian. I also note that Ian Mansfield lists his full name, address and journalist credentials on his website, including selected mainstream publications on his website, so I am going to go further and say your accusation of him as a "spammer" and a "sockpuppet" looks to me like an unpleasant personal attack and you should think carefully about throwing such accusations around wantonly in future. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 14:33, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

I haven't accused him of being a sockpuppet. Whatever his credentials and work on other sites, I think his ianvisits.co.uk website does fall under WP:SPS and doesn't belong on Wikipedia as a reliable source. 10mmsocket (talk) 16:53, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

You wrote "In the past couple of weeks I have managed to spot some serious sockpuppetry involved in reference spamming." "I think his ianvisits.co.uk website does fall under WP:SPS and doesn't belong on Wikipedia as a reliable source. No it doesn't, the only discussion I can ever see on WP:RSN is from me mentioning it in passing, where I said "not sure". Given I have found evidence of him being mentioned and published in professional reliable sources today, means my opinion has drifted from that. You are now lying by repeated assertion and have not the slightest interest in writing content or adding sources. I'm utterly sick of idiots like you who have scared away knowledgable people from Wikipedia, who were complaining about this FIFTEEN YEARS AGO. So, please stay off my talk page and do not write here again, otherwise I will revert your comments as harassment. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 17:02, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Just a belated follow-up to this, I apologised to 10mmsocket for basically getting completely carried away and shouting off completely unnecessarily, who subsequently had a constructive debate with others, and started a discussion on WP:RSN about IanVisits, as I'd quite a like a consensus one-way or the other. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 20:29, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Satoko Kishimoto Did you Know nomination

Thanks for giving me the mention there. I really enjoyed reading about her work, which seems to be important in the context of changing the political landscape in Japan. In a world of depressing news, while this also had some negative elements (the harassment) but was overall a refreshing read. CT55555(talk) 22:01, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Wagner Group activities in Libya

Dear Ritchie333,

I am writing to inquire about your expertise in creating articles on Wikipedia. Specifically, I am interested in creating an article about the Wagner Group's activities in Libya, which was previously deleted from Wikipedia. I understand that the article was deleted due to copyright concerns, and I want to make sure that the new article is created in compliance with Wikipedia's guidelines on copyright and plagiarism.

I have not accessed any of the pages where the content was allegedly copied from (https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Wagner_Group, https://smartencyclopedia.org/content/wagner-group, https://atozwiki.com/Wagner_Group).

However, I would appreciate your guidance on how to proceed with creating this article. In particular, I would like to know if there are any specific guidelines or resources that I should be aware of when creating an article on this topic. Also, could you please review the Talk page of the previously deleted article so that we can address any concerns before submitting the new article for review?

Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to your response.

Best regards Uwdwadafsainainawinfi (talk) 11:09, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi. This looks like a mistake, and is possibly what I would call a "reverse copyvio". In other words, somebody has copied the text from Wikipedia which trips up on the automated copyright violation tools. So, absence of evidence to the contrary, I've restored the article. 1AmNobody24, could you please outline the reason why you tagged this article as G12? Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 11:45, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Ritchie333

It popped up at CopyPatrol with 94-96% similarity. Since the article was created today, I assumed that it wasn't a backward copyvio. Since the article is a split from Wagner Group those sites could have copied it from there first, I didn't check that. 1AmNobody24 (talk) 12:30, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Not to worry, these mistakes happen from time to time. I've seen a number of cases at ANI of undetected copyvios, so I think that's why we're in a "better be safe than sorry" climate at the moment. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 13:08, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

@1AmNobody24 yeah it's pretty common for copypatrol to flag copying within Wikipedia. I would doublecheck the sites that copypatrol thinks the edit was copied from to make sure they look like legit websites and not Wikipedia mirrors. Galobtter (pingó mió) 01:11, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for catching my improper A7 and restoring to the correct version. I feel stupid for missing that. And now I'm concerned that I'm going to make a mess dealing with this even though I've been trying my best to be somewhat slow and delibrate... but I can't help but feel that maybe my good intentions are a misguided mess waiting to happen. Do you have any advice? Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 13:52, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Nobody should feel stupid for making a mistake. As you can see in the above thread, I deleted an article by mistake. ("Oh no! Admin abuez!") The important thing is that the mistake was caught quickly and rectified.

The best advice I can give when tagging article for CSD is to look at the history, and look at the logs. In particular, if the log shows another patroller has marked the article as reviewed, that implies that any speedy tag would be controversial and probably shouldn't be done, with the exception of things like G12 which can be missed if the plagiarised sources aren't to hand. Since new users have been prohibited from creating articles, the amount of pages qualifying as A7 or G11 has plummeted to a trickle, so I wouldn't expect too many to appear at NPP anymore. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 14:01, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips. I did actually did take a quick glance at the history... evidently, I didn't look closely enough. I was expecting to see some sort of dramatic byte change if it was some sort of test edit or vandalism. The edit in question added 61 bytes [1]. I should have at least looked at the diff for the immediately preceeding edit, though. I think the other thing that messed me up was seeing a bunch of small semi-automated fixes in the history and not seeing anything that immediately stood out... prompting me to make the terrible assumption that the article was always like that. Again, I should've looked at the actual revision of when the page was created. As for logs, you make a very good point there. I hadn't considered that. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 14:40, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

In the case of Sunil Kumar Kohli, the byte count was very atypical and not what you would expect. Indeed, I looked at the history first and my initial thought was "huh?" wondering how this could have got "missed" at NPP. That's when I checked the specifics, first moving to a version that had been reviewed, then to the version before I got vandalised / non-improved. I wouldn't fret over this too much, it's a one-off that's unlikely to happen again.

As regards Category:All unreferenced BLPs, I occasionally go through this and try and improve stuff, but it's difficult as it inevitably requires me to research a topic on someone I've inevitably never heard of before. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 14:49, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

DYK for SailRail

On 14 March 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article SailRail, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a SailRail ticket allows travel from any station in Britain to any station in Ireland? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/SailRail. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, SailRail), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 00:02, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

WP:RELISTANCEISFUTILE

? E Eng 22:39, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

What can I say? I just can't relist, er resist, making a pun out of things. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 22:42, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

I just can't resist creating redirects. Bishonen | tålk 22:46, 14 March 2023 (UTC).

Lynne Carter

Hi, I see that you deleted the page for Lynne Carter based on copyright violations. Wouldn't it have been more appropriate to put a notification on the talk page so that people can adjust things? If you restore I would make such adjustments. - kosboot (talk) 12:31, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately, copyright violations are a violation of the GNU Free Documentation Licence which Wikipedia runs under; and therefore if they are discovered, they have to be immediately deleted. I was surprised that an article that had survived for over ten years was a straight copyright violation, but on investigation, it turns out the text is a straight lift from https://archives.nypl.org/mus/18598. So, if you need access to the deleted text, you'll be able to find it at that link. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 10:16, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Satoko Kishimoto

On 20 March 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Satoko Kishimoto, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Satoko Kishimoto is the first elected female mayor of Suginami, Tokyo? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Satoko Kishimoto. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Satoko Kishimoto), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 12:03, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Grafton Street

On 24 March 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Grafton Street, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 2008, Grafton Street had the fifth-highest property rental prices in the world for retailers? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Grafton Street. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Grafton Street), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 12:02, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Frivolous Monopoly Question

Hi Ritchie,

I was browsing various user generated monopoly boards and I came across your Irish Monopoly board, which I really like. I just had a quick question though- shouldn't the currency values on it be in euro, instead of pounds? An entirely frivolous question, I know, but I thought I might as well ask.

Hope you're well!

Patr2016 (talk) 21:47, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

@Patr2016 as it's the original 1970s board, it was in Irish punts! Smirkybec (talk) 22:22, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Huh, well today I learned! Thanks. Patr2016 (talk) 22:57, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

hello richie333

hello!

my article was deleted cause "Unambiguous advertising or promotion", can you tell which statements have contain advertising or promotion ? Jodysetiawan23 (talk) 03:09, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Not Ritchie, but I did look at your page (Special:Undelete/User talk:Jodysetiawan23) and it's pretty much all statements. Things like "leading", "our" and the like are typical ad language. It's all about how great your company is, when what we want are mostly facts and evidence grounded in independent sources. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:19, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

oke thanks for your advice, i already revise it. can you recheck again ? https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:Jodysetiawan23 Jodysetiawan23 (talk) 04:16, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

I can't, because it has already been deleted by another admin. Note to Drm310, this doesn't appear to meet the criteria of WP:U5, which exempts "plausible drafts and pages adhering to Wikipedia:User pages#What may I have in my user pages?" which includes "Drafts, especially where you want discussion or other users' opinions first, for example because of conflict of interest or major proposed changes" (which this is). But it does meet the criteria of WP:G11, so just remember to tag as that instead in future. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 11:02, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Arlington House, Margate

Hello! Your submission of Arlington House, Margate at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Dahn (talk) 13:11, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Schro

Why is SchroCat allowed to edit? Without sanctions even? Not too long ago he was facing sanctions and possibly an indef block, then he said he was leaving to avoid the sanctions and then he lied and engaged in abusive sockpuppetry. Now he’s editing like the sanctions were never gonna happen? God knows how many editors have left WP because of his abuse.Aspirecake (talk) 18:30, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

I know that people have complained about SchroCat, and I know I was the one that acted the courtesy vanishing which effectively booted them off the site. However, I've met SchroCat in real life and we had a great chat about the London Monopoly GA project; he's also done several really helpful GA reviews like Talk:Moorgate station/GA1 and is one of the best copyeditors I've seen at FAC, such as the related FA Moorgate tube crash. As I suggested to Gerda upthread, it I was going to start sanctioning people for infobox feuds, I'd start running out of friends. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 19:21, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:57, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Gerda. Can you double-check I've done the Women in Red headers for Satoko Kishimoto correctly? I can never remember. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 20:30, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Looks good to me, - thank you for the article. - For the first time I have no DYK on IWD but remember a 2016 DYK, Hana Blažíková, a Czech who sang German music in Japan. - I loved improving Mary Bauermeister - on the Main page until yesterday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

I was reading a BBC News article on IWD, in which she was one of the interviewed subjects, thought "hmm, I'll have a read of her WP article" and was somewhat surprised to find there wasn't one. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 20:42, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

March songs

my story today

Thank you for that! Girls and women (after) singing pictured when you click on songs --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Latest singer I wrote about: Johanna Geisler, off the FAC of her famous husband. Composer Marek Kopelent died, and it's Saint Patrick's Day --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:46, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

today we remember the 150th birthday of Max Reger, who saw the horrors of a world war right when it began in 1914, while others were still in high patriotic moods --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:03, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

sharing impressions from vacation on Madeira 20-30 March, pics now at 24 Mar from the peaks - the Mozart RfC (with a non-neutral invitation to fight) was closed, and went rather peacefully - what can we learn from it? - I saw today that Brian Boulton added an infobox to Imogen Holst in 2014, edit summary "risk" - should it still be a risk in 2023 to follow his example? ... looking for someone independent to run a round table to end that chapter and return to articles, music and images ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:41, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

I think Cullen328 said it best here - " I consider the whole matter [infobox disputes] to be one of the most useless wastes of time on Wikipedia, but a lot of editors feel passionate about this ongoing battle, for reasons that completely evade me.". I think the biggest problem is if I started dragging these arguments to AE to get Arbcom-sanctioned blocks, I would lose friends. Thank you for your work on Clemens Bosselmann, by the way. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 14:13, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

(ec) Blocks and sanctions are about the opposite of what I think should happen. I dream of someone uninvolved who could call all who still fight, and those who don't want to, and let them discuss under which conditions fighting could stop. I tried myself - years ago - but Nikkimaria said then she wouldn't come to my place (WP:QAI that was). She doesn't fight any more, btw, - a great step forward. I would like to call Smerus, but now he disappeared completely, which is also the opposite of what I think should happen. I am blamed for it, naturally. I miss GFHandel who left us over the Bach discussion in 2013. - I don't believe a lot of editors still feel passionate. I know one who always presents ten bullets, and another who always says that some articles are better with an infobox but not the one discussed, but wouldn't call that passion. Smerus argued that all infoboxes will be useless because we'll have better concepts, - which may be true but until then, why not? Looking at Mozart now and last week: was the difference really worth all the unpleasentnesses over ten years? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:31, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

I think Levivich mentioned somewhere about thinking about raising a request at AE, but the general feel at Talk:Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart has been that nobody's really stepped over the line. I didn't participate in that, and the logical conclusion I can reach is you're best off ignoring infoboxes and concentrate on the content and sources. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 18:12, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Although I'm still pretty salty about the "i-box Wehrmacht" and Holocaust song bit, Ceoil's comment at Johnbod's talk page was so ridiculously hilarious, I'm laughing too hard to write a noticeboard report. Levivich (talk) 19:44, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

IP editor on Colonial empire

142.67.89.165 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

As you asked to be notified, IP editor you blocked yesterday for edit warring has now registered an account Mario98765 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and carried on in the same vein [2],[3]. W C M_email 07:30, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Upped the block to 72 hours, with a hard block so if they try editing logged out or with a sock, it won't work. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 10:57, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Pimlico tube station

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Pimlico tube station you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Bob1960evens -- Bob1960evens (talk) 09:02, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

EMDR

Hi Ritchie just wanted to say the EMDR article is stuck. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#EMDR

If you did have the energy to move the situation forward would be great. Thanks

bw JCJC777 (talk) 06:28, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

I've never even heard of the Fringe theories noticeboard before just now, which probably suggests I'm supremely unqualified to offer any position on this. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 13:33, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Pimlico tube station

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DYK for R319 road (Ireland)

On 11 April 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article R319 road (Ireland), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a local councillor complained that the R319 road in County Mayo had more humps and hollows than a camel's back? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/R319 road (Ireland). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, R319 road (Ireland)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 00:03, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Lucerne Cheese Festival

Thanks for that! Hope you're well! I always feel like I ought to be doing a contest in April, it's the month most suitable to contests I think! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:48, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

It's been some time since I've done a "rescue from CSD" job, I should do some more. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 12:12, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Arlington House, Margate

On 17 April 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Arlington House, Margate, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that you can see the sea from every apartment in Arlington House, Margate? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Arlington House, Margate. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Arlington House, Margate), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Aoidh (talk) 00:02, 17 April 2023 (UTC)