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The Signpost: 08 January 2014

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DYK for C-Band All Sky Survey

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DYK for Open Government Licence

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

What do you think of separating credits for make and nom (and German) in your DYK list? A few more, and you are ready for the archive ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:36, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Done! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:35, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Mick Rossi

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  • Andy, the article as it stands is not even close to DYK quality. If you wish to pursue the nomination further, you need to post to the nomination template right away—it will require extensive rewriting and additional sources to qualify. Please let us know right away; the nomination could close at any time. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:11, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you

The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
Thank you for your work in getting the NHS Trust Infobox together - this is a great step forward for those of us who want to see better coverage of the NHS Jpmaytum (talk) 01:22, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Notion Capital

Sorry it took so long to get back to you on this. I just looked over Notion Capital and it looks good to me. You used very reliable sources and I don't see any issues with the wording or anything like that.

The only thing I will mention is that I am relatively unfamiliar with venture capital investment firms, though I do understand that the main point of them is to create venture funds, but it is still rather jarring that the history section just starts out talking about creating a fund without once mentioning the company as...well, a company or a firm as it is. Is this just the way things are done in these types of articles or can some more info be added to explain a bit about that or maybe some info about the firm's history more directly? SilverserenC 04:43, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Brian Davies (activist)

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DYK for Aaron McDuffie Moore

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DYK for Birmingham Crematorium

Orlady (talk) 08:02, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Memories, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:13, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Bay Area Museum

The DYK project (nominate) 16:04, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Appreciation

Great work on this article
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:23, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK I'm proud of this? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:37, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
Well done. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:01, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, Gareth. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:01, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue XCIV, January 2014

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Infobox police officer

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DYK nomination of The Civil Affairs Staging Area

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DYK nomination of Reginald Mount

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A Barnstar for you.

The Audio Barnstar
Andy, this is surely an award you have earned many times over, not least for your voice recording project and your success persuading the BBC to open up some of its recordings. A truly first-rate Wikipedian! MartinPoulter (talk) 22:10, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #93

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Wikipedia article review

Hey Andy, you helped me out short while ago with an infobox on my first Wikipedia article. I am now finished writing the article and would love you to review it (if you've got time) before I submit. You can find the article in my sandbox (https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:AlexHollender/sandbox). Any suggestions, edits, or general feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much! AlexHollender (talk) 23:14, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

@AlexHollender: Looks good. It could do with more references (the "Early life" section has none), but it's good enough to publish, already. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:27, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: Awesome - thanks so much for taking the time to look it over. Will search for more references now. 72.80.90.214 (talk) 01:30, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: Michael Avedon, the individual for whom I recently published the article, has a notable grandfather: Daniel Patrick Moynihan. I am in the process of un-orphaning the Michael Avedon article and was wondering the following: since Daniel Patrick Moynihan's article does not have a Personal Life section (and I am not currently inclined to write one), would it be appropriate to list Michael Avedon beneath Spouse in the infobox as a "relation"? AlexHollender (talk) 17:44, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for S. N. Cooke

The DYK project (nominate) 16:01, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Pictured and quirky, - I admire your sense for subtle humour ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:01, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Progressive Primitive Baptists

The DYK project (nominate) 16:04, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Genre discussion

Hi Pigsonthewing (good user name!). I just wanted to bring up that the point of the genre change is not just vandalism becoming a problem, but that with current standards, it's still doing a disservice to readers. Per MOS:INFOBOX, which states that these are "to summarize key facts in the article in which it appears. The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance". It is basically there for a quick summary of what to expect what you are getting into. So along with WP:TECHNICAL,("Strive to make each part of every article as understandable as possible to the widest audience of readers who are likely to be interested in that material.") we should have it set to be as simple as possible. My list of genres was obviously not set in stone and I was not the final suggestions. But currently, the genre infobox does not follow standards. So either way, it's going to need to change as the average user doesn't know what several genres are, but if we can give them a basic one, it will be much simpler. I don't understand the anti-anglo styled genres as this is English wikipedia and should be formatted to make it easier to understand for English speaking users. Could you chime in on that on either the article or the talk page?Andrzejbanas (talk) 20:40, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

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Cumberbatch

Hey, just letting you know the ONLY reason I redid it was how your first edit effected the infobox, I meant to put 'try again' but you fixed it on your next revision anyway. :) LADY LOTUS • TALK 16:04, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. It wasn't clear, from your edit summary, "no", that that was the case. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:22, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

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Audio clip on Cumberbatch's page

Hello! About the clip on Cumberbatch's page, I don't think it should be on his infobox at all and rather, should be placed in his radio works section. The clip is after all necessary to complement his voice work. I also suggest to upload a narration or a reading rather than an interview where he talks about random stuff like horses. It's more appropriate and he has done lots on BBC Radio so I don't think it's that difficult to find. He also did a reading for a Moby Dick project and I'm providing the link as it may be easier to obtain this one's rights. http://www.mobydickbigread.com/chapter-58-brit/Mojomuning (talk) 18:38, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Great! Let me know when you get that permission. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:46, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Arbitration motion notification

A motion regarding you has been proposed: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#Motion 1 (Andy Mabbett).

For the Arbitration Committee, --Bbb23 (talk) 20:44, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #94

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The Signpost: 22 January 2014

DYK for Henry Jamyn Brooks

Materialscientist (talk) 13:18, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Beautiful! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:29, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Erik de Mauny

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:13, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

MOS:IMAGES

I have opened a formal RfC at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Images#Request for comment on the deprecation of left-aligned images under sub-headings,an issue on which you commented in previous discussion there. DrKiernan (talk) 09:55, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

The Film programme

Hi Andy. I tidied the dab but the incoming links need some attention. Regards Widefox; talk 21:52, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

QRpedia bug - Apostrophes. HELP!

Hi Andy, hoping you can help.

Something seems to have changed since QRpedia was transferred to Wikimedia UK... Codes for the following articles were generated and printed prior to the project's transfer:

They worked just fine but that's no longer the case... Common factor? The apostrophe!

The problem seems to be that although the URL for the article is https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/St._Jago's_Arch, when it is copy-pasted into QRpedia it displays as https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/St._Jago%27s_Arch and gives you a code for the latter URL. It used to work fine but if you were to scan that code now it returns en.qrwp.org/St._Jago%2527s_Arch, i.e. adding an extra '25' to the URL and this returns an HTTP 400 Bad request.

These codes have been integrated into wider information panels which will be costly to replace, so in an attempt to find a short-term fix I tried to create an in-wiki redirect ([[St. Jago%2527s Arch]]), but as you can see it doesn't let me create an article with this title.

Help please! --Gibmetal 77talk 2 me 23:19, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

This should now be resolved. For future reference, you can report issues using Bugzilla. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:11, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Cheers Andy. --Gibmetal 77talk 2 me 08:01, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/The Civil Affairs Staging Area

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Infobox pig breed

Hi! Someone seems to have screwed up {{Infobox pig breed}}. I think it's just that the documentation has not been updated in line with recent changes. In any case, the result is that it only displays what it wants to. I don't want to make things worse by messing with it - could you take a look? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 12:14, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Can you give an example of an article where this issue is apparent? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:58, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
I think it's apparent in the example on the template page, where the code | image_caption = Cumberland boar, late 19th century is ignored because the relevant line of the template is |caption = {{{caption|}}}. At Mora Romagnola I added some (apparently uncalled-for, and surely unnecessary) underscores with this edit, and got the altnames to show up; adding an s to note got the notes to show up too. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:35, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
Thank you; that's fixed; I hope. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:12, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for looking at it, Andy. But no, I don't think it's fixed. Cinta Senese uses the syntax transcluded to the infobox page from Infobox pig breed/doc (at least, I think it does!), but the weights do not show up. They don't show at Hereford (pig), either, so it isn't just me. It seems to be because Underlying lk either made changes to the template without making corresponding changes to the documentation or made changes to the template that didn't correspond with the docs. I've tried copying some stuff from the sheep breed infobox to the pig breed sandbox; it seems to work, I think. Any good? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 00:59, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Nicole Johnson (monster truck driver)

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Prunus nipponica

Can you confirm this photo [1] is Prunus nipponica (Japanese Alpine Cherry)? It turned up on a photo search for that tree and I just started an article on it. Thank you. HalfGig talk 22:50, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, in as much as that's what it was sold to me as. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:57, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
OK. I will copy it to WikiCommons as the license seems to allow that. I've used a cropped version at Prunus nipponica and it's at the DYK nomination page. Thanks! HalfGig talk 02:46, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Nicole Johnson (monster truck driver)

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Wikidata weekly summary #95

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BSBI name change

Hi Andy. We've got a centralised discussion going on here about which references to the BSBI's old name should be updated to reflect their new nme, and which should be left as is. I'd welcome your input. SP-KP (talk) 13:07, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of The Crescent (Birmingham)

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DYK nomination of Hilary Wayment

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DYK nomination of Reginald Mount

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The Signpost: 29 January 2014

Infoboxes amendment request

Hi Andy, just a message to let you know that I've closed and archived the Infoboxes amendment request because both motions had failed to pass. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 01:13, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Break

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DYK nomination of Nic Fiddian-Green

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Heard you on the radio...

...so I added the story to Wikipedia:Press coverage 2014#February. Nice work! - Eureka Lott 00:04, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

David Gerard twittered about it; Bravo! Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 01:31, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
Ditto. Caught the story in mid-stream and did not hear your name until the end. I will have to pull it up online later today. --  Gadget850 talk 13:35, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
Adding my voice to the bravo-chorus, da capo ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:36, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

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GLAM accounts/usernames

I would be glad of your input, as a multiple Wikimedian-in-residence, at WT:GLAM#Usernames for GLAM participants. The question arose because of the creation of user Swiss National Library (talk), which I have blocked because they declined an invitation to change username and declared that "The account is already used by more than one person and always will be." When told that role accounts were not allowed here, user Micha Rieser (one of the operators of the account) said that in that case they would not contribute. Has this ever been a problem in any of your residences? I hoped that other GLAMmers would chip in and contribute, and maybe try to persuade them that the "User:Micha at SNL" solution would work, but nobody else has commented yet. See also WP:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive259#Block review request. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:55, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata - Infobox settlement - Geobox/type/settlement

I think it would facilitate the exchange of data between English Wikipedia and Wikidata, if Template:Geobox/type/settlement is converted by a bot to Template:Infobox settlement.

But I found no tool that displays how many articles use Geobox/type/settlement. Do you know such a tool?

CatScan gives:

Maybe it is just 8000 for settlements, i.e. 2% of Infobox settlement.

Do you know a bot that can convert? Androoox (talk) 23:36, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

I agree entirely; it's ridiculous two have two infoboxes for a subject; or to have one infobox for multiple disparate subjects. The statistics you quote speak for themselves (see also Category:Geobox usage tracking). A bot could easily be found, by asking at WP:BOTREQ, to make the conversion. Unfortunately, though, previous attempts to resolve the matter, by merging the best of each type of Geobox into the respective Infobox, have met with resistance. It seems that some people have an almost emotional attachment. See, for example, Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 January 3#Template:Geobox and Template talk:Infobox river#Geobox, again. I am at a loss as to how this can be resolved, while such attitudes prevail. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:52, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the tracking category. Only 229 use Category:Geobox usage tracking for region type. Compare that with the thousands counties, provinces, departments, municipalites, districts ... around. One ugly example: Talamanca (canton) uses Geobox, but if one clicks upwards to the province, or downwards to a district, one finds that they use Infobox settlement. Androoox (talk) 04:18, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Hilary Wayment

--Allen3 talk 18:30, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for another good one, and enjoy Strasbourg! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:10, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Nic Fiddian-Green

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Hortefeux

I'm sorry, Pigsonthewing. I didn't notice you had already added a Wikipedians in European Parliament photo to the article about Hortefeux. Mathonius (talk) 06:42, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for The Crescent (Birmingham)

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