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Request to add awards to Red Velvet

Hello, For the Red Velvet awards page do you mind adding the award they won for simply-kpop? i don't know how to do it so if you could that would be amazing! Also they won two more awards for the Asian pop music awards! "Oustanding group" and "best music video". If you could add those in that would be great! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.0.81.20 (talk) 03:08, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

 Not done – Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 05:55, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Red Velvet award page

Thank you so much for adding the awards!! Thank you for your hard work in updating the award page! For the Asian pop music award show they won another award which is outstanding group of the year along with IZ*one, if you could add that, it would be great!! Thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.0.81.20 (talk) 17:28, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Penthouse II

Just so you know, the second season of Penthouse has the same subtitle as the first season (cf. Official website).
Have a nice day. -- Seokgjin (talk) 14:19, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

@Seokgjin: Yea, I saw your edit. Thanks for that. – Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 14:26, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

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Regarding Blackpink list of awards

Hello, Hope you are doing good. I have some questions regarding revert back of my edit. I added 2 awards in the page and gave reliable website link as well:- Musicdaily awards and Channel R radio awards, but it got reverted. Also Blackpink won Busan one Asia Festival awards, it also revert back. Can you please explain how these awards are not recognized by Wikipedia. There are also other awards like KBS world radio awards, Hallyulife awards etc. All these are not mentioned in the page as well, please explain

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by June 099 (talk • contribs) 17:08, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

@June 099: Simply put, these awards are not notable and popular enough. Busan One Asia Festival Awards was removed because you didn't format the table correctly causing the entire table to become broken. You can probably add the Busan One Asia Festival Awards back in but remember to ensure the table is not broken by clicking the "Show preview" button before publishing. Also it would highly recommend you to include Korean-language reliable sources instead of unreliable source like koreaboo, soompi, allkpop, kpopstarz, etc to ensure the award you added is notable within Korean media as Blackpink itself is Korea group. – Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 17:24, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Need your advice

Need your advice on this edit Special:Diff/999491273/999493164. I think its a MOS issue but 3 users have manually reverted it which might be socks. Thanks. EN-Jungwon 14:40, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

@EN-Jungwon: Hi, I have revert and issued L1 warning to user. – Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 14:42, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

WEi name

Hello! The main reason that a lot of people are editing Wei as WEi is because it is how it should be capitalized. We are having a problem on how to change the article title please look into it thank you. This is their naver profile https://tv.naver.com/wei — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.125.120.56 (talk) 15:03, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Please note that the article title without (band) should come first, and how their name is stylized in marketing/promotional materials should come second. Furthermore, Wikipedia is not fancruft and you don't need to give references on how other website is styling their name as. – Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 15:12, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Radio.com Awards

hello,I noticed that radio.com award get deleted, it is a notable award from a popular radio station, Blackpink even thanked and recognized this award, on what basis it got deleted or someone found it not notable?If the artists appreciate it then how can it not notable?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by June 099 (talk • contribs) 19:37, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

@June 099: Award was removed because the source provided is Twitter which is considered user-generated and self-published source, unless you can provide secondary source from 1 of these reliable source else it cannot be included. – Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 01:44, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Blackpink radio.com award

In this I include the link for blackpink artist of the year in Radio.com award https://www.radio.com/music/pop/radio-com-artist-of-the-year-and-the-winner-is title=User_talk:Paper9oll&action=edit&section=new — Preceding unsigned comment added by Draco132 (talk • contribs) 18:37, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Blackpink radio.com award

In this I include the link for blackpink artist of the year in Radio.com award. https://www.radio.com/music/pop/radio-com-artist-of-the-year-and-the-winner-is Draco132 (talk) 18:49, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Regarding an award show

Hello, Hope you are doing good. I actually have a queation, is Hallyulife awards is suitable to get added in the list? If not then please explain the reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by June 099 (talk • contribs) 15:48, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

@June099: Nope, unless you can provide reliable source from this list to show they are consider notable within South Korea media. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 15:52, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

@June099: In case, you are misunderstand what I mean on reliable source from this list (the entire Considered unreliable section is not counted). — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 15:56, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

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 Done — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 09:34, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

GFriend

Hello? I'm a newbie here. Can I ask why the Dingo Award, they received a physical trophy itself from Dingo (The only recepient last year) and HallyuLife Read here: https://www.hallyulife.com/awards/frequently-asked-questions-faqs/, isn't notable? Grinding Tools (talk) 12:08, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello? I noticed that GFriend's Simply Kpop Awards, Show Champion Year-End, Weekly Idol Special trophies and SBS Best of Best Award aren't here too. But on other page like MONSTA X, they includes that award? Why isn't that included, and if they arent meant to be in the page, should we make another page for them, it doesn't make sense that program arent notable bcs Broadcasting Station are one who gave those to them. Grinding Tools (talk) 12:13, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

@Grinding Tools: Dingo is not notable award because it's not a proper award ceremony, furthermore the category is created for GFriend because of their participation. Which means it's not notable. As for HallyuLife, unless you can provide secondary source from one of reliable news source listed here (not including the entire Considered unreliable section) then they can be included otherwise nope. For Simply Kpop, Show Champion, Weekly Idol and SBS Best of Best Award are consider music program awards and they should only be included inside the respective album/EP/single article otherwise they shouldn't be included. In addition, there's already consensus on the notability previously dicussion on Talk:List of awards and nominations received by GFriend/Archive 1#Edit warring — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 12:31, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

BTS awards

Hello

In BTS awards please update apan 2020 awards won 4 awards but in page it was updated as 3 Apan top10 Desang Best male grup domestic Idol fans choice So 4 awards

Please change as 4 total 336 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4070:4205:2EB:959E:8213:CAA3:DD70 (talk) 12:50, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Where is the reliable source? — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 12:53, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

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SM Entertainment; South Korean entertainment companies

Hi, regarding the changes made to SM Entertainment (i.e. changing 'is South Korea's largest entertainment company' to 'is one of South Korea's largest entertainment companies'), it was changed primarily because SM Entertainment technically isn't the largest out of every South Korean entertainment company.

The reference given next to 'largest entertainment company in South Korea' in the SM Entertainment page only says that SM is regarded as the largest entertainment agency in South Korea with top-notch idols, which asserts that it is regarded as the largest specifically in K-pop due to the caliber and legacy of their K-pop idols - but it does not actually provide any evidence that it definitively is the largest entertainment company compared to all other entertainment companies in South Korea; thus, it cannot be considered a valid reference to use as the basis for writing on the Wikipedia article outright that it is the largest entertainment company of all in South Korea. SM has likely had the greatest hold and public legacy purely within the K-pop industry, but as an overall entertainment company (which is what the sentence in the article describes), it is not actually the 'largest' entertainment company.

There are two entertainment companies in South Korea that could be considered 'larger' than SM. One is CJ E&M. An entertainment conglomerate and mass-media company, it owns a significant number of business entities and subsidiaries which collectively amalgamates to form much of South Korea's entertainment sphere, encompassing media content (notably including the entirety of Mnet, tvN and OCN), film, music, convention, performing arts, animation and media solution, and as such, it holds a significantly greater dominance and influence on the South Korean entertainment industry than SM Entertainment. It also includes CJ Ent as result of its merge in 2018, where its last reported revenue was US$ 1.64 billion (compared to the entirety of SM Entertainment's being half of this), and following CJ's merge into the CJ E&M conglomerate, CJ E&M is highly likely to have a significantly higher revenue than that due to its multiple other ventures and business entities within its conglomerate. As such, if you compare all of the above to those SM Entertainment's, SM is a significantly smaller entertainment company and conglomerate. The other company is Big Hit Entertainment. It contains a similar number of subsidiaries as SM Entertainment (so both have significantly fewer than CJ E&M); but Big Hit Entertainment has a greater total value than SM Entertainment, and a much greater market cap according to the KRX index (8.60T vs 719.99B).

However, you may be right in that writing 'is one of South Korea's largest entertainment companies' is not the most constructive, as its phrasing is somewhat clumsy, particularly for an opening sentence of an article. As such, I would recommend completely removing the 'largest' part, and instead simply write 'is a South Korean entertainment company', especially since SM Entertainment's relative magnitude and legacy are propounded later on in the article anyway. Arctical (talk) 01:51, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

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Relevant information

Good day. I am making changes to the content of this page that are relevant. Rushmore University is not a Diploma Mill. Please visit their website and you will see the amount of work students perform to receive their degrees.

The diploma mill comment may be slanderous. Let's not add this one back. Plus the quote is not correct. This is what is on the source page regarding diploma mill - "some faculty were granted their doctorate from Rushmore itself, and at least 1 has a doctorate from a school that is probably a diploma mill." This is speculative and not about Rushmore University.

Since Rushmore now has CMI status, it should be reflected properly on their page.

The source regarding the quote about formal promotional material can not be located. I removed it since the link is gone.

Let's keep it positive. Check out my changes and if you feel they need editing, please keep it accurate and positive. Rushmore University has worked hard to get where they are today.

50.91.104.233 (talk) 14:33, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Updates made. The content is accurate and positive. Again, let's help organizations that are helping others and improving their status.

50.91.104.233 (talk) 14:37, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I revert your recent edit as it appear that you're trying to censor some parts of the article. Please also do note that you include Rushmore University twice in the lead section. You may however, correct/update the information however removing history/past information is not recommended when there's already source provided. — 🍊 Paper9oll 🍊 (📣 • 📝) 14:38, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

I am removing the Diploma Mill quote for the reasons stated previously. It is not accurate. This is the only thing removed.

I am adding more info about CMI in the first paragraph and at the end so it is correct.

Do you think we should arbitrate this or can we meet some common ground and stick to facts and stay positive? Can't believe you keep adding back the Diploma Mill comment. It is very clear it is not and the source does not support it.

50.91.104.233 (talk) 14:59, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Your latest edit seem fine now. I reverted it because you previously removed Formerly Rushmore's promotional material claimed that the conventionally recognized system of educational accreditation in the United States is irrelevant and that Rushmore had instead attained "independent accreditation," as measured solely by the success of its graduates.[7][8] In the past, Rushmore claimed approval from a variety of agencies, none of them recognized[9] by the United States Department of Education (USDE) or the Council for Higher Education Accreditation(CHEA).[10] The Oregon State Office of Degree Authorization has no evidence that this is an accredited or otherwise acceptable provider of postsecondary education meeting Oregon standards. Oregon employers should consider degrees from this supplier to be substandard unless each degree program is evaluated in detail by an external evaluator acceptable to ODA.[11] The Maine Department of Education and State of Michigan also list Rushmore as non-accredited.[12] when there's primary source supporting it. — 🍊 Paper9oll 🍊 (📣 • 📝) 15:22, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

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Re: Incheon Airport

Hello, I removed it because the entry is unsourced and a firm date is required per WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT. 47.13.131.227 (talk) 05:04, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Endorsement section

While I thought about ENDORSEMENT section of Irene, Seulgi, and Joy, I still believes that it is unnecessary to put endorsement they participate by writing long sentences. I think that putting advertisements by tables is much easy to view and to edit.

Also, in Irene section, public image and effects section are subtopic of endorsement section, so I cannot understand why this happens.

The reason I left message to you is that I thought you are the first person who wrote endorsement section on Irene, Seulgi, and Joy section. If I thought wrong, sorry for long message that bothers you.

Happy New Lunar Year and wish you good luck. Thanks for reading long message. -- Wendylove (talk) 16:31, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

@웬디러비: Hi, please note that prose should be used instead of table even though it's cleaner to edit. In addition, I don't see public image and effects section that you have mentioned being subtopic of endorsement section. The section only consists of information pertaining to endorsements.

Happy New Lunar Year to you too. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 16:36, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Difficult words

Well, sorry for bothering you again, but I think that the words in various K-Pop groups or individuals are quite difficult to understand. For example, in IU, there is a word "Philanthropy", which can be replaced as "charity". Also, there is a word "Endorsement" which is usually used in political issues, which can be replaced as "advertisement". Of course, choosing the words are free to everyone, but I think using simple words might be better to understand the context and meaning for both readers and users, who might be not used to those words. -- Wendylove (talk) 05:34, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

@웬디러비: Hi, I'm not sure what is the exact reason for using "Philanthropy" and "Endorsements" however imo using "Charity" and "Advertisement" isn't recommended because imo it will conflict with maintenance template like Template:Advertisement which would causes some editors to be confused. Furthermore, "Philanthropy" and "Endorsements" is also used more widely in Wikipedia hence imo the usage is more for consistency even though they may be harder to read or understand. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 05:46, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. If there is Wikiproject K-pop, I could open some debates for using those words. -- Wendylove (talk) 05:50, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Jaekyung of Rainbow

What did you mean by "reliable source"? Reminder that she used to be of a band, so she's either a former singer or just a singer. You can't just only call her an actress w/o acknowledging her having been a singer for at least one occasion 2600:1700:BAD0:23C0:8193:662F:7997:C828 (talk) 04:25, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 04:35, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

3D Printing

Hi, thank you very much for your message. I took out the sources, as somebody deleted my original text submitted two-weeks ago with the comment "self-promotion", as I added as source an overview paper of the subject, of which I am the author (I am a University professor)... So, with sources it is deleted - without it is deleted, too. That makes it really difficult to share information... (And this info is correct and important...) I am currently working on a complete article of sinter-based AM in the sandbox mode. Here I will add 25 background sources. Once this is approved, it may work? (If it's approved, because again I will add 1-2 own sources, as I am working a lot in this field...)CarloBurkhardtHSPF (talk) 11:06, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

@CarloBurkhardtHSPF: Hi, please read reliable source guidelines. Your edits including sources provided was likely removed as per your comment, is your own source which is not recommended as per reliable source guidelines. Reliable secondary source is recommended instead. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 11:25, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Hans Joachim Friedrich von Sydow

Re: User talk:184.94.188.156

February 2021[edit] Information icon Hello, I'm Paper9oll. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Hans Joachim Friedrich von Sydow, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 01:34, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

I gather you take pride in removing changes quickly. Unfortunately, this means without reading any of the already linked pages or already referenced articles. Interesting way to spend one’s time.

Regarding his recognition for actions at Waterloo, the same source as is already in the article’s only referenced source, not a long read: https://www.napoleon-series.org/research/biographies/Prussia/PrussianGenerals/c_Prussiangenerals114.html

Regarding “Blue Max”, see the already linked Wikipedia article on the award, which says: “The colloquial name "Blue Max" was given in honour of Max Immelmann, the first recipient of the Pour le Mérite during WWI. Immelmann was also the first aviator ever to win the award.” https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Pour_le_Mérite

I simply pointed out that to use a slang rather than accurate expression by saying von Sydow received “the Blue Max” 100 years before that expression was ever used is an anachronism. He rec’d the “Pour le Mérite” not “the Blue Max”.

Similarly, it would wrong to say those awarded the American “Badge of Military Merit” by George Washington rec’d a “Purple Heart”, before the latter expression began to be used colloquially.184.94.188.156 (talk) 15:01, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done, as per the notice I issued, you could have quote but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. No need to make a big deal out of it. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 15:28, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! — Newslinger talk 19:25, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Paper9oll, let's do a one-month trial. Your counter-vandalism work generally looks fine, although there was a mistake in Special:Diff/1007496789 – which I noticed that you apologized for in Special:Diff/1007500231. Please practice counter-vandalism with rollback for the next month and take care not to rollback edits in violation of WP:ROLLBACKUSE. When the permission is about to expire, please submit another request here to have it instated permanently. — Newslinger talk 19:26, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

@Newslinger: Noted, thanks for giving me the chance. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 00:33, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

About my edits in Anna Sorokina page

Hello Paper9oll, changes I made are not an act of vandalism but a correction as a russian native speaker. Her name and surname are correct - Anna Sorokina at the start of the article but then return to Sorokin - which is male declination of this surname. Because we are talking about female person it is just right to fix declination to Sorokina.Капеллан Андрей (talk) 14:24, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@Капеллан Андрей: Thanks for the heads up. I think the article title should also be changed to Anna Sorokina, it's rather confusing and misleading. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 14:28, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

I did not commit Vandalism

Excuse me, on Ottoman Countercoup (1909), I have not committed vandalism, vandalism, according to Wikipedia itself is deliberately intended to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose which I was not trying to do, Wikipedia says it's main goal is to share all human knowledge, which i was also trying to do. Let me know if there is anything i can see.173.79.162.223 (talk) 01:41, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

You removed 1 reference and also added huge chunk of blank space hence your edit was reverted. Don't anyhow removed reference without providing a valid reason in doing so, it's okay to replaced the reference if you feel it is not a reliable source or the source is already dead and unaccessible. In addition, your edits is welcome however please follow the WP:MOS guidelines and don't add huge chunk of spaces as that is consider vandalism. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 01:48, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Close at German–Polish Non-Aggression Pact#Requested move 14 February 2021

Not sure why in this case you've gone for closing rather than a re-list - there's only one !vote against on substance at this point, with all other !votes being on formal issues (capitalisation/em-dash). A late oppose !vote is a pretty good reason to discuss further. 12:49, 25 February 2021 (UTC)FOARP (talk)

@FOARP:  Done I have rollback the closure and relist it as per your request. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 12:55, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Formula E

You reverted my addition of the calendar to the 2021-22 Formula E World Championship article. What article do you think that my edit should have been on then? Mjroots (talk) 12:34, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@Mjroots: The source is for 2020–21 Formula E World Championship in case you misunderstood the naming, blame COVID-19 for the weird naming. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 12:38, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Ah, you'd think the FIA would know what is happening, wouldn't you. Very confusing as the opening round of this season is today. Being shown on Eurosport later this afternoon. Mjroots (talk) 12:43, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@Mjroots: Yea they choose to not rename it just like 2020 Tokyo Olympics will still be named the same even though the event is postponed to July 2021. Anyway enjoy the show later on. Cheers and happy editing! — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 12:52, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Bicycle (song) (February 26)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Bicycle (song) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Bicycle (song), click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
• If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
• If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Robert McClenon (talk) 17:20, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Paper9oll! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Robert McClenon (talk) 17:20, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Rainey Old Boys R.F.C.

HI, can I ask that you please stop rejecting changes on my sports club page. We are amateurs trying to spread information about our club and are spending a lot of time trying to edit our page with relevant information. thank you.2A02:C7F:108F:FD00:AD60:39D3:8C79:FE43 (talk) 09:55, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

If you want me to stop rollbacking your edit, please read Help:Links on how to link articles within Wikipedia. The reason I reverted your edits is because you keep linking English Wikipedia articles as external links which is violations of Manual of style. Your edits is welcome, however please follow the guidelines. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 10:00, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Nigerian Literature

Hello Paper9oll, The recent correction was to modify the Nigerian Literature article so it is not dominated by what should really be a different topic - Northern Nigerian Literature. I have submitted a separate page for Northern Nigerian Literature, I hope that is approved soon.

As it stands, the Nigerian Literature page is 1. Dominated by Northern Nigerian Literature 2. Features Northern Nigerian literature before featuring anything else about Nigerian Literature.

There are two problems with this. 1. It is not representative of Nigerian Literature because Northern Nigerian Literature alone is less than fifty percent of Nigerian Literature. 2. The content of this subsection mostly reference Pre-Nigerian Literature. That is, literature written before the existence of Nigeria as a unified entity under British rule. As such, I strongly feel this article mischaracterizes the subject it purports to illuminate, possibly with mischievous intent. There is for instance no equivalent subsection for South-Eastern, South-Western, Middle-Belt Literature. Furthermore, the designation Northern Nigerian obscures individuated units. My edit was to rectify that.

I do believe that the part I deleted should have been a totally different article and I have submitted a draft of that.

I hope to hear from you.Ixoralover (talk) 10:10, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ixoralover: Your edit was rollback due to unexplained content removal and also manual of style for intentionally replacing it as * which in turn is deemed as vandalism. Typing into summary your intention on doing so is highly recommended so other editors know your intention. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 10:15, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

March 2021

Hi, if the artist appeared on lets say a Chinese drama and do not have a Korean name, then the information would be blanked isnt it. English wikipedia is a global one and i think we should change it to Original title to fit the different languages instead of only to Korean. DynamiteIce (talk) 10:28, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

@DynamiteIce: By default, there should even be native language included inside the filmography table as this is consider inconsistent and violating manual of style, adding native language to filmography means there should be native language in awards and nominations table, discography list section, and the list goes on which truly ridiculous. I have decided to rollback your good faith edit. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 10:57, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Okay, I think just putting the filmography should be better than nothing since some shows do not have an English title. I will revert them back and will not change to “Korean” anymore. Thank You! DynamiteIce (talk) 16:48, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

@DynamiteIce: Shows without English title, should use Romanized title instead. As per WP:NCKO. Furthermore, your logic on no English title doesn't make any sense because you need to use English as title to create an article on English Wikipedia even if the shows is not notable enough to justify having an article created, English should still be used. Please don't rollback anymore. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 16:54, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Unaccepted change

I unaccepted and reverted this change to Human Development Index which you had accepted. Taiwan doesn't appear in the HDI ranking.

As a copy editor, I'd like to note that the notice at the top of this page might be better as

If you wish to ask why I reverted your edit(s), please be cooperative and respectful. Your question will be deleted if you are not.
Changes you make may be reverted unless they include citations to reliable sources that support them.

Also, your note to new editors that they're in the wrong place seems a bit odd, as the link simply adds a new section to this page rather than leading to a separate talk page for new users. I suppose it does solve the problem of unsigned posts, though. Happy editing! BlackcurrantTea (talk) 11:04, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

@BlackcurrantTea: Noted for the revert. Thanks for the feedback in regards to the notice.

Actually, I purposely disable the new section link which is located because the edit button because of the link located inside the notice. Clicking the link inside the notice open the new section with preload parameters, the manually link shown in the edit page is also the same, opening it will have show preload parameters. My idea is similar to how to WP:RFP or WP:TEAHOUSE requests are handled in which when you want to submit a requests/questions, there is preload parameter telling user where to fill in the requests and don't touch the other fields but due to limitations my solution is half-baked. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 11:36, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

If one often works with new editors, that could simplify matters. I confess I'd not noticed that the usual new section link was missing; I rarely use it. Cheers, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 11:57, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Reverting accepted changes to Dog Day Afternoon

Hello Paper9oll. I wanted to let you know that I reverted the edition you accepted for the recent changes to Dog Day Afternoon. My reason for said reverts is the fact that the article has been protected to avoid that particular change in the plot. I started last month a discussion on the talk page to invite users to give their opinions/reasons if they want to modify that in the "plot section". There have been people changing that back and forth without justification, and such thing threatens the stability of the article.--13:23, 7 March 2021 (UTC)GDuwenHoller!

@GDuwen: Okay noted, I just accepted it because there was nothing wrong about it. Beyond that, I wasn't of my concern ... however I will take note for my future pending changes review if the article appears inside my review list again. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 13:49, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot to clarify that I was writing about it in case it falls within your list. I started a request for comment so that a template or something is added with the result to inform users that otherwise wouldn't know.--GDuwenHoller! 13:55, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

@GDuwen: Noted with thanks. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 13:58, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Vandalism Report

Thank you for your vandalism report [1]. I wanted to reach out to you regarding your warnings to 31.185.165.208 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). As blocks are preventative, not punishment, it is not necessary to issue escalating warnings when a user has already stopped editing. In this case, you issued a level-1 warning at 7:21 [2], level-2 at 7:24 [3], level-3 at 7:26 [4], and level-4 at 7:28 [5] ... however the IP's last edit was at 7:19 [6], 2 minutes prior to your first warning. Regards,— Kralizec! (talk) 13:41, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Kralizec!: Hi thanks for the reply and notification, apparently Huggle auto-report to WP:AIV and I manually edit it with further comments as for some reason, the comments was missing when auto-reporting. Anyway, I will take note for my future reporting and also tweak the settings for Huggle so it doesn't auto-report anymore. Cheers and happy editing! — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 13:45, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

BTS awards

Please update BTS another two awards which got ifpi as album total sales and album as pure sales 2409:4070:468C:A63A:C8FE:474:4A5A:1F72 (talk) 12:30, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

 Done — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 13:11, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Responsibility

I want to comment regarding our recent discussion and your reply which included "Notice was issued using RedWarn". In case you are not aware, a tool like RedWarn is only a tool—the editor using that tool is responsible for all actions taken, including reverts and talk-page messages. From WP:RedWarn: "Do not forget that you are responsible for all edits made with RedWarn. ... You must use this tool within Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or risk being blocked from editing." If you leave a message at a user talk page, you are responsible for the content of that message. If the message is garbage (such as accusing someone of a MOS violation when clearly that was not the case), it is your problem and you should fix the message or not post it. Or, if you left a message which you later realize was a mistake, you should briefly apologize. There is no need to take much time doing so, but what you cannot do is blame the tool. Johnuniq (talk) 06:21, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

@Johnuniq: Sorry for the confusing, in my point of view, it's consider MOS violations. It could even be considered vandalism. Maybe my judgement was wrong or I misread MOS but nevertheless it is only because user was experienced editor hence it is considered good faith whereas the same cannot be said if user was newly registered user or IP user, ORES would have flagged it.

I do know that tools used by editor such as RedWarn, Twinkle, Huggle, etc are entirely the responsibility of the user (my responsiblity). The same can be said for the said user, he/she used some helpers tools and made changes to Blackpink that causes syntax error (or whatever the actual term the error is called) hence he/she is also responsible for the changes made.

Anyway, I don't wish to argue with you further on it, for your heads up, I have strikeoff the warning/notice issued on said user but didn't removed it because you and me already commented on it, however if you wish to removed it entirely, please feel free to go ahead. Have a nice day and happy editing. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 06:43, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Jeon So-min Basic Information

Hi! Sorry if i put something that is not needed for actress Jeon So-min's information I'm very sorry if it's not allowed to be shared to everyone. I also added some recent films of her if you don't mind 🙂 thank you so much! J7nsanity (talk) 15:12, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

@J7nsanity: Hi there, you can add her dating information as Wikipedia is not censored however please provided reliable source so that it is verifiable. Please refer to this list of considered reliable source if you wish to re-add the information. Same for your recent films inclusion, please also provide reliable source.

As you're new user, please note that website like Soompi, Koreaboo, Allkpop, etc are considered unreliable source and should be avoided as much as possible. If you wish to know more about why they are considered unreliable, you can check out WikiProject Korea talk page and searching through the archive using the search box. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 15:20, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm sorry but i don't know how to add reliable source for her recent films. If you can, pls change it for me (Thank you so much!) I'll just stop doing this Wikipedia thing it's not for me. Thank you! you're there to help me so that I'm not lost.

Also i have a favor to ask if i may, i still don't know how this whole thing works but i want to change Actress Jeon So-min's Photo, can you pls help me change it to a much recent picture of her during her Seoul Magazine Photoshoot. Again Thank you so much! 🙂 J7nsanity (talk) 15:28, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

@J7nsanity: I can help you with the reliable source, however I cannot help you change the lead image due to Copyright issues. Unless, the photoshoot is licensed under Creative Commons else it cannot be used. See Wikipedia:Image use policy to find out more.

Alternative if you wish to stay in Wikipedia, you can see the Welcome guide I posted in your talk page. You can see Help:References on how to add them. It's pretty simply to do so and once you added it a few times, you get hang of it. Happy editing. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 15:37, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you Paper9oll. I'm am really sorry about it but thank you for your ideas. I will now be using sandbox before I make it public.NellieBean (talk) 14:21, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@NellieBean: Welcome to Wikipedia, please read the Welcome guide I have added to your talk page. It is very helpful and highly recommended. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 14:23, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Ok, Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by NellieBean (talk • contribs) 14:27, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

R (single album)

Hi Paper9oll. I am not sure by which edit you are talking about. My most recent edit on R (single album) was just adding a period to an incomplete sentence. Please let me know which edit you were talking about. Thanks!Moonlight+BLONK (talk) 15:49, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

@Moonlight+BLONK: Oops, sorry about that. Apprarently, Wikipedia show me the incorrect diff. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 15:53, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

@Paper9oll: No its fine! Its nice to know that people are checking edits! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moonlight+BLONK (talk • contribs) 16:06, 18 March 2021 (UTC)