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Happy editing! Muhandes (talk) 08:16, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Point Cartwright has been accepted

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SportingFlyer T·C 13:37, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Petrie Plaza for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Petrie Plaza is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Elmidae (talk · contribs) 22:30, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Petrie™ moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Petrie™, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:41, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Petrie (construction company)

Hello, P1840. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Petrie (construction company), a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 17:01, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Petrie (construction company)

Hello, P1840. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Petrie".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Hey man im josh (talk) 18:19, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Petrie (construction company) (July 7)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DoubleGrazing was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

For notability per WP:NCORP, we need to see significant coverage, directly of the subject (not of people associated with it, projects they've completed, etc.), in multiple secondary sources that are both reliable and entirely independent of the subject.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:15, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, P1840. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Draft:Petrie (construction company), you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:23, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is an article about one of the oldest businesses in Australia and the first business in Queensland who are responsible for the design and construction of most of the historic buildings in Queensland. I am a member of the Royal Historical Society of Queensland and have an interest in the Petrie family as the founding family of Queensland. I give up trying to add an article about the family and their business, seems impossible with wikipedia to add a page that the Queensland Parliament, Queensland State Library and the like all write about but which wikipedia for some reason dont want an article about. Once it is published I can get other members of the historical society to add to it and also go through the 101 boxes of historical records held in the University of Queensland research library. But if it won't get published then i wont bother as i have better things to do with my time than try and correct some incorrect information on wikipedia and try and add content. People that know less on the subject seem to know better… P1840 (talk) 08:31, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, that doesn't answer my query. I was questioning whether you might have an external relationship with the subject, given that you're writing about a company called Petrie, founded in 1840, and your username is P1840. While there may be a perfectly innocent explanation for that, I felt it was worth at least querying.

As for why I declined this draft, this is because you haven't yet demonstrated that the subject is notable according to the WP:NCORP notability guideline. However 'important' or 'famous' or 'oldest' etc. this business may be, an article on it still must comply with the relevant policies. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:44, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Considering there are thousands of articles about the Petrie's construction business in newspapers, Government gazette, Brisbane City Council, Queensland Government, State Library etc since the 1800's which are all digitised not sure how more notable it can be. The amount of rubbish on wikipedia and here I am willing to spend some of my time to try and add some content which currently doesn't exist on wikipedia. There are literally hundreds of articles on wikipedia that are incorrect as they attribute construction works to a singular Petrie person, when instead it was built by the company, especially since 1870's when the business was run by multiple Petrie family members. I have studied the family for years and been involved in several exhibitions at the Royal Historical Society and also there is currently an exhibition on them at the Queensland State Library and thought i'd help add some information so people could find more information on some of the works and get others in the historical society to then add to it. This is the business that started the union movement in Queensland and the business that was instrumental in separating Queensland from New South Wales by holding events in their premises, so pretty sure everyone under the sun would consider that notable enough. But instead people will need to get their information from chat gpt because it wont be on wikipedia, I won't bother anymore as I am also writing about the Campbell family for the society and that is taking up a lot of my time. P1840 (talk) 10:24, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, as you wish. I didn't ask you to write this, so if you've now decided not to continue, that's obviously your call.

Just in case you decide to continue, though, can I just make the point that I don't know, or even particularly care, what sources may exist somewhere out there in the wide world. I review drafts in light of only those sources that are included. It's not my job to go hunting for evidence of notability, that responsibility is entirely on you as the draft author. Assurances of notability count for nothing, without evidence to back them up. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:55, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]