User talk:OA17151104

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, visit the Teahouse, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{Help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Jim. Please understand that I am brand new to this. Also please understand that the references are not the way I wanted--I wanted them to be more granular--but I don't know (being new) how to do references in this system. Help would be welcome. Right now, I am a bit baffled by how to do things here. As for COI, I am a volunteer at the museum at Camp Manatoc. I am not sure how that is a conflict. I am trying to learn more of the local history having relocated to the Akron area a year ago. I hoped there would be a Wiki page that would help. When there wasn't one, I thought I would try to make one. Being retired, it seemed like a good activity. I have written thousands of pages (really!) of technical documentation during my software career. This first step was me trying to figure out what I was doing in a new system. I had developed a first draft outside of Wikipedia, which I pasted in. I see there are reservations about the Weyrick books. He actually wrote 5 volumes. They are the primary source of info on the camp, council, and Karl Butler. Thanks for any help! Warren OA17151104 (talk) 16:01, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarifying that you don't have a significant COI. Please have a look at the discussion on my talk page regarding this topic. I'm minded to restore the draft for improvement, but I'll post some guidance here later today before I do that. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:37, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much, Jim, for the helpful and constructive feedback! I will work on it today. Your feedback is much appreciated! Warren OA17151104 (talk) 11:57, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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When you write about a person,

you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that they meet the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the person or an associated organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the person claims or interviewing them. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls.

Everything you write should have an in-line reference to verify it. The Weyrick books will do, but you need to give the books' isbns, the relevant page number(s) to confirm your claims, and format as publications. As per the discussion on my talk, it will help if you can find other sources such as newspaper coverage.

You must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews.

Your text isn't dreadful, but claims like He was a successful businessman... are opinions.

There shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.

You must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.

Your text contains unreferenced quotations, which are copyright violations, you must give the attribution.

You had no wikilinks, eg Akron, Ohio, Boy Scouts of America, Goodyear

Have a look at Emma Louisa Turner. You don't need anything as extensive or detailed as that, but it will show how references should appear in the text, the "References" section, and the "Cited texts".

@Tavantius: has made constructive comments on my talk page too. I've restored the draft at Draft:H Karl Butler Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:12, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]