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Gephi

Seems strange that you'd boilerplate straight to Speedy Deletion when I actually spent the time and energy to discuss the fact that an earlier version of this article had already been deleted and that the new article, given its reference to all that Gephi's been used for in the year and a half since that article, makes for a substantial difference. So, I'd appreciate it if you'd amend your Speedy Deletion justification to take that into account and I assume you'll have a little more engagement in the Talk page rather than a similar boilerplate response. Elijahmeeks (talk) 02:56, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

James Haskell

Can you please revisit your reversion of my edit? All I did was a copy edit - I didn't change the substance of what the other editor wrote. I can't even follow your edit summary. If you disagree with the other editor's interpretation of the cited source, then please reword it. At the moment, it's just poorly written, including a contraction and the lack of a space between two words. I have a feeling you know more about the sport than I do (I know nothing), so I'd rather you fix it.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:37, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Russell Kane

Regarding the modification of Russel Kane's birthday. The source is incorrect. He was both Russel Grineau in 1975. Once source for this is http://everything.explained.at/Russell_Kane/.

This article also alludes to the fact that he is actually 36. http://www.guardian.co.uk/stage/2011/sep/18/russell-kane-interview — Preceding unsigned comment added by ADoveFlew (talk • contribs) 07:40, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

The everything explained article is taken from the Wikipedia article as it explains at the bottom of the page as such is not a reliable source. The Guardian article you quote above says ". Now 31 – though some press cuttings suggest he's 36". noq (talk) 09:22, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Samsung Galaxy Skin

I've declined the speedy deletion on the grounds that it is possible that the hoax story might be notable enough for an article in and of itself. However, I've also sent the article to AfD. Your comments are welcome. -- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 14:55, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Nadeea

NOQ - The Twitter, Facebook, and MySpace links are official content distribution sources for the artist Nadeea. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Btakita (talk • contribs) 14:25, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Borders

FINE, but don't send me stupid pathetic messages. Myevergreen (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:49, 13 December 2011 (UTC).

revision on Sharma

Hello noq, any reason why you reverted back the old entry for Santosh Sharma? can you please help me point to the right direction? so I can adjust thanks Spooting (talk) 08:32, 21 December 2011 (UTC)spootingSpooting (talk)

veritaspaideia

I have the copy of Let History Judge, and believed it was worthy because it is written by a semi-prominent figure. He was Roy Medvedev, I'm sure you've read, but I am not all that good at creating an article itself. If you have any ideas on how to do an article on a book, I would love to hear them - Thanks. unitas (talk) 15:13, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

For a book to have its own article it must be shown to be notable in its own right. Please read the notability guidelines to see what is required. It is also a good idea to read the links provided in the Welcome section on your own talk page. noq (talk) 15:42, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

J Brito

friend J Brito Here is a great figure in the Dominican Republic — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.80.216.71 (talk) 18:34, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Wikipediq

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	Come over here to wikipediq. http://www.wikipediq.wikispaces.com/ ~~ÁlgamiçaĞraţ 20:27, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Madrid C's notability

I am not much on speed with WP rules, but your tag of notability does not apply here. Please use the corect tag. I am asking, as I do with all the other editors who wants to delete the RMC page, why did you pick this page, but not the other reserve team pages? Raul17 (talk) 17:37, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

I would suggest reading WP:notability - how does the team meet that? As for why I tagged it rather than others - I did not come across any others - If I had and they did not show notability I would similarly tag them. noq (talk) 17:58, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

You misunderstood. According to this statement:"It is not intended that this guideline should apply to sports clubs and teams; for these the specific notability guideline is WP:ORG", the tag you used does not apply. Again, I am not argueing that I proved notability, but that this was the wrong tag to use.

In general, I am not sure how I can prove a club's notability if does not play in a "professional" league. As an amateur entity in the 1950s & 1960s, this team were national amateur champions. The site I found this infomation, is no longer active so I can prove this fact. No disrespect, but I find it amusing that other editors can find technical errors, eg fair use of an image, and I ask if other (reserve) team pages comply and no one comes any of the others!! Again, no disrespect, but it is just so mind-blowing that I think RMC just being hated on! Thank you 21:18, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

I have modified the tag to remove the sport specific link. As I stated before, I tagged this article because I came across it. Not having come across any of the other pages you refer to I cannot comment on the notability or not - although I would expect them to have difficulty. noq (talk) 21:26, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Artemis Accounts

Hi NOQ,

I see that you reversed my changes to the "Comparison of accounting software" page because of lack of notability. As it is just a table of accounting packages, I'd like some guidance on how I can meet this requirement.

GrumpyMike GrumpyMike (talk) 18:36, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Grumpy,

In order for it to be listed it should have its own article on Wikipedia - and for that you need to show that it is WP:notable using independent WP:reliable sources. I see you have started on this in your own userspace but you will need to get independent sources - not just the companies own website. noq (talk) 18:42, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I understand. Thanks GrumpyMike (talk) 18:54, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Ovvy

I didn't understand your comment, but b, g and y don't exist in Tongan, and b and y don't in Samoan.... Peridon (talk) 21:24, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

see ROT-13 - its a simple substitution cypher often used to obfuscate things on usenet. Basically, Ovvy is actually Biil - a mis-spelling of Bill and the other name is Clinton after rot-13 is applied. noq (talk) 00:31, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Ahhhh... Too simple. I'm more used to Vigenère ciphers, especially ones where you have to work out what the key word(s) is (are) before you can start deciphering. I was using my weird linguistic knowledge. Still, we both reached the same result. Peridon (talk) 09:20, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Etihad

FYI, the incident is not notable enough to be mentioned. See WP:AIRCRASH for details of what is generally accepted as the criteria for inclusion of aircraft accidents. The subject of notability can be a bit tricky, but generally a write-off is required. Mjroots (talk) 10:27, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Good call

I have put a warning at User talk:Sams45. Looks like wp:SPA. Let's keep an eye open. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 22:32, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Swets

Hi NOQ,

I understand your reasoning for marking this article as non-notable - I have to admit I was unsure so used other similar (competitor) pages as a yard-stick and found it to be similar. Have read WP:notability and its still a judgement call probably down to which side of Inclusionism vs Deletionism you are on.

I've been looking at them trying to understand the industry and have no affiliation with the company - hence added a page as it seemed useful. The company would be well known to pretty much every university library and every publisher in the world. It is in the news a lot (but admittedly in publishing circles only which doesn't make it onto the web as much as some industries (ironically)). I felt it was notable because of these things.

Have added some more sources I know about that are online (bloomsberg, and others) and will improve as I can. I've deleted the delete flag - but will add it back myself if I don't find some more evidence of notability. If you feel so strongly that it must be deleted faster then add it back.

Jon — Preceding unsigned comment added by JonPoley (talk • contribs) 17:33, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Jon, online references are not necessary, so if you have some you can add them in. The independent refs you have added so far do not really seem to establish notability - one appears to be from a press release and the other is a directory entry. If you decide that you can't find appropriate refs then please add {{db-g7}} to the top of the article to request it be deleted. noq (talk) 18:24, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Fish Finger sandwich

If you feel that this should be deleted, then I will respect that. I thought that it was noteworthy, but if not then feel free to delete Regards, Rlough1980 (talk) 19:50, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

FYI

Hi Noq. FYI: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Tricdl27. Best regards. Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 17:50, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Clarification on AfD

Hey there, I realized after I made the edit that the AfD bit wasn't quite right (I assumed a "proposed deletion" was an "article for deletion")... But anyway, shouldn't PROD templates be removed only with justification or after a change has been made to correct the original complaint in the proposal? -- MacAddct1984 ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:52, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

They should be but there is no requirement for it. Just removing it without addressing the concerns will usually mean that it gets replaced by a full afd which cannot just be removed. noq (talk) 19:56, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh, okay, thanks for clearing that up! -- MacAddct1984 ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:00, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

New Core Banking

Hi Noq, We just want to add a new core banking to the list of "Core Banking Application Package Vendors (Core_banking)". We are going to create the company and the product pages... maybe we have to create first both pages, detailing current customers and so on? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alfbonilla (talk • contribs) 16:07, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Alf, Why do you want to add the company and product? Can you show they are notable? Do you have independent WP:reliable sources to confirm this? If you don't then the articles are likely to be deleted so make sure you can show this when you create the article. If you are connected with the company please also read WP:Conflict of interest. You can use the articles for creation process to get help from an experienced editor when creating a new page so that basic requirements can be met. noq (talk) 16:22, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

February 2012

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on King Henry VIII School, Coventry. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Mato (talk) 20:30, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Can I also remind you that this isn't vandalism. Mato (talk) 20:32, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Request for comments

Hello, you are welcome to contribute to the following page.

WP:Requests for comment/TBrandley

Thanks.

Logical Cowboy (talk) 06:00, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Delinking

Hi, You have delinked the link I created here[1]. I created that link because I am translating the relevant French article at present. It makes more sense to create the necessary links before I upload the article. It would be rather impossible or extremely difficult to find the necessary articles after I have uploaded. That was the reason why I created the link. It is also my understanding that Wiki Red supports that (of course in accordance with other policies) unless there is something else I missed. Please revert your edits as I translate these articles. Thank you. Tamsier (talk) 11:26, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Kindly help to complete

I am new to wiki editing but i have read this book "Next What's In" and the relevant article showing as of now in Wikipedia is incomplete and misleading. Kindly have a deeper look into the references and help in completeling the article with proper information. Even the image of the book has been edited. It is requested to revert your edit after making the necessary changes as per wiki policies or guide me on this. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vartmaan (talk • contribs) 18:50, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Bradley Barritt - Rhodesian/English Parents

Hi, just curious why you have changed that part on the BB article twice. The citation it links to makes no reference to any parenthood. I don't have a problem with it either way but the way that part of the article 'that Barritt has an English passport thanks to Rhodesian parents' (true or not) doesn't make as much sense as it would do if he had English parents.

Anyway, can we find a citation for that? If not perhaps it could be re-written.

[User talk:Museite|talk]] 23:34, 5 March 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.222.245.91 (talk)

It was in the Telegraph article but they seem to have lost the online version again. I updated the link last time but while it still appears in the indexes it seems tohave disappeared at the moment. noq (talk) 00:47, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Next What's In

Hi Noq! Thanks for your continuous effort to improve wikipedia. The present information on Next What's In is incomplete and partially correct. It actually appears incorrect as of now. I tried to complete it with more information providing details of the contents etc. The history is also partially correct. I have mostly quoted what editors of different national and international papers have written or spoken of and all the reliable and verifiable references have also been given. I request you to edit the problem areas (delete the words, sentences or part of it) to improve the artcile but don't delete it completely. Even the image has been removed which is supported by varifiable references. Kindly help in improving this article as per wiki policies and do not simply delete it. Vartmaan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vartmaan (talk • contribs) 03:48, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Contesting Won Yoo Hyun PROD

I just wanted to point out that WP:PROD#Sticky prod specifically says that removing a BLPPROD tag from an article does not preclude it from being PROD'ed regularly. Cheers. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:18, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Notability of Real Madrid C

Just checking to see if playing in the Copa del Rey will give a team notability with the sources, of course. Raul17 (talk) 00:32, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

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FBI Ten Most Wanted Fugitives

		The Special Barnstar
		I hadn't meant to remove Godwin on FBI Ten Most Wanted Fugitives, but did so accidentally. Thanks for the catch. I'm glad that it didn't sit that way for an amount of time.--ARTEST4ECHO (talk/contribs) 17:54, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

7 May 2012 NATO attack in Badghis Province

Hi. I suppose it reads like a newspaper because their isn't enough info yet. It is going to need a page at some point though, just as this does. Do you disagree? — Preceding unsigned comment added by S.devincenzi (talk • contribs) 16:40, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

swets?

• What's with the notability tag on swets? It exists, it's large & multinational, and Wikipedia lets people put their damn high school here. Just sayin' – Ling.Nut3 (talk) 08:37, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

The tag is to highlight that it lacks references to significant coverage in independent reliable sources. The references given are either not independent, or not significant. Press releases, directory entries etc do not establish notability. noq (talk) 08:46, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh. Then I would've put a "lacks refs" template on it instead of "notability", since 1) that is more specific to the problem, and 2) a two-second search of the internet or google books etc. could establish that is a real concern. But you tagging/deleting people have your own logic etc.

happy hunting – Ling.Nut3 (talk) 08:54, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Next What's In

Hi Noq! I am Santosh Author of the book "Next What's In". I am sorry to state that many incorrect and partial information is being given in the wikipedia for the book Next What's In. The facts are as follows 1) It is not just a self-help book but it is a "management cum self help book". This information is supported by relevant and reliable sources. 2) The background - The book is not only an outcome of discussions with friends and relating these discussions with Gita, Koran and Bible. The book is based on self analysis and is supported by proper research and learnings from management and real life experiences. Also supported by relevant sources. 3) The book has 19 chapters divided into 4 sections 1) build up to the concept 2) Concept 3) Practical implications 4) designing the future. Also supported by reliable sources. 4) It is the world's first book on dissolving the boxes. Also supported by reliable sources. 5) The book contains real life examples which people can relate to. Also supported by reliable sources. 6) Just check Next What's In, some of the editors have made me a jazz artist which is incorrect and wrong. I am a management consultant for inclusive and sustainable growth. Also supported by reliable sources. Kindly help me out in providing the correct information to give a complete picture. Some of the information is misleading as of now.--Santasharma (talk) 01:32, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Dear Noq - embryonic stem cells

Dear Noq, I read a few days ago the wikipage on embryonic stem cells. I found there was a mistake, as the author had written that people question whether the human embryo is a human life. As I hope you understand this is not being debated, while what is being debated by some is whether it should be granted the moral status of a human being. I hold a MRes in Biology and a PhD in Biomedical and Life Sciences and i am a postoctoral researcher in Neuroscience. I am not being unbalanced as i have a scientific objective approach, while who wrote that statement and who is reverting my corrections is unbalanced towards his own ideas: what I am writing is stated in every embryology book, and who has the authority to talk about what's life in it's eary stages is a Biologist and an Embryologist. I don't understand why my correction is being reverted every time by you or others and find this an offensive act of violence towards my fredom of expression...I hope wikipedia is still a source of knowledge, not of disinformation. Too many people read wikipedia for such gross mistakes to be present. I hope I find in you a contructive attitude. Thank you for your time ThCPS — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThCPS (talk • contribs) 15:38, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not about WP:TRUTH but WP:verifiability. You added contentious content with no references - would you have got away with that in a doctoral thesis? noq (talk) 17:21, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Dear Noq, will you consider my contribution to embryonic stem cells contentious if if I also add a good neutral reference? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThCPS (talk • contribs) 08:32, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Next What's In

Hi Noq! This is Santasharma (Santosh) again. I am sincerely waiting for my answer as the information given as of now for "Next What's In" is incorrect and not verifiable. As an Author and a Wiki user i should be given an opportnity to put the correct and verifiable content to the Title. Need your guidance as you can very clearly see the references support what i have added today but that was again removed. This time it was not directly taken from the references but my own words with suitable quotes from the references. Thanks --Santasharma (talk) 05:20, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

new changes to embryonic stem cells

Dear Noq, If I deleted the last sentence of the first paragraph of embryonic stem cells and its reference, and typed the following would you undo my change?

Those issues include whether or not a human life at the embryonic stage should be granted the moral status of a human being as it is with a child or an adult.<ref>Baldwing A (2009). "Morality and human embryo research. Introduction to the Talking Point on morality and human embryo research". EMBO. 10 (4): 299–300. PMID 19337297. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)

Thank you, ThCPS

Adding the reference rather than replacing the existing one would probably be OK. Maybe linking to granted the moral status of a human being would be an improvement. noq (talk) 19:09, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Next What's In

Hi Noq! I am still waiting for your inputs as that will guide me to complete the article. As of now the article is incorrect and not verifiable.--Santasharma (talk) 07:22, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Cherry Hinton C of E Primary School

Hi, I have added information on why the above article is important in the talk page. Please review the contents and remove deletion tag. If you think more needs to added for making the article notable, please provide suggestions. As the article is about a major govt run school in Cambridge, it should not be difficult to find notable sources. Lakshmi2510 (talk) 19:58, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

This article was created by a new Wikipedia editor. We really need to try and encourage new editors as best as possible rather than scaring them away as per Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers. Consequently I removed the PROD tag that you added to this article to allow time for a civilised discussion to take place with the newcomer on the talk page. I suspect that the ultimate outcome of that discussion would simply have been to merge and redirect the article to the Cherry Hinton page. Taking this article to AfD was somewhat unnecessary as this simply involves extra administrator time and the outcome would have been the same. Could I suggest that in future you adopt a more gentle approach with new Wikipedia editors? We all have to start somewhere. Dahliarose (talk) 11:07, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Mighty Quinn

Shame you deleted this... Were you at the final yesterday? Mighty Quinn is the anthem for Harlequins and has been since the 90s — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haserch (talk • contribs) 14:21, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes I was there - only just due to the M1 being shut, but we made it. I removed it from the article because it just does not belong as a "see also". If it were to appear anywhere it would need to be in a section discussing the link between quins and the song and I don't think it is notable enough for that. Congratulations on the win by the way. noq (talk) 14:34, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Murda Weapon

Hello Noq. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Murda Weapon, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A9 does not apply if the artist has an article. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 18:13, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

McColl Frontenac Oil Company

I removed the speedy tag - it asserts notability. I added two tags. Give it 24 hours, and then "prod" it. Bearian (talk) 22:31, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Nav-x for Distribution

I hope I'm posting this correctly. Apologies in advance if wrong.

In addition to my topic being flagged as possible spam, it also mentioned my user name. I just put in a request to change it to Mrpleasant7. I just wanted you to be aware that I'm trying to comply with the wikipedia system as best as I can understand it. Will you or somebody else be looking at my reasons for it not being considered spam and if there needs to be further interaction on the topic, do I post it here or someplace else?

Dynamicsnavx (talk) 14:26, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

An administrator will review it. They may leave a message on your talk page or if the page is deleted, you will see which admin did it and you can contact them on their talk page to discuss it further. noq (talk) 14:30, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Montreal Wanderers RFC

Hi Noq... I edited the Montreal Wanderers RFC page, adding additional content and providing references. Please review and consider removing the speedy notification tag. Chrispam.montreal (talk) 15:27, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Noq... I did a bit more digging and came across this: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Rugby_union#Notability_of_Club_Sides I believe that the Montreal Wanderers RFC page meets the criteria due to "notable players". Also, the wanderers meeting the criteria for notability by being the "founding member of a federation or union". Please review and consider removing the speedy notification tag. Chrispam.montreal (talk) 15:51, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Shinnam

Sorry, I made a question earlier before I took my time to go through what you had written. Is it ok of me to remove the template at any time after a reference has been added?

Understading about Oil 4 Wales

Hi Noq I just came to say the reason why im undeleting this Oil 4 Wales site because other users keep on Undeleting my progress and keep on threating me to be Blocked but im not a strong editor and try my best to edit and I spend a lot of effort editing articles and the other Useur that had been Blocked by User:Tide rolls; but that Oil 4 Wales link was acually true Information please take a good look at this website.

Here's the Link: http://www.oiltanksupplies.co.uk/oil-tank-supplies-delivers-oil-4-wales-depot-storage-facilities/

Yours Faithfully

Secure Digital

To elaborate my Change Summary: In a section that discusses the many file systems you can put on an SD card, the article recommends FAT16 for standard-capacity SD cards. (The reason is that this is what consumer devices expect; other unanticipated consequences are mentioned in "Risks of reformatting".) Marchash tagged the text with {{Cn}}. I asked him on User talk:Marchash if he really thought the assertion needed a citation. He seems to have agreed with me; he withdrew his own {{Cn}} and added "to maximize compatibility." You reverted him, reasserting the {{Cn}} but also deleting his clarification. I have now inserted a more detailed clarification, but claim it still doesn't need a citation. If this isn't satisfactory, would you please move this history to Talk:Secure Digital and append your thinking to it? Spike-from-NH (talk)

Juwel Aquarium

} Hi i've got loads of messages on the article I have been creating. I have referenced all the images and info and apparently I have cited it. Also it was tagged for advertisement but it isn't, its just a description of what they offer you could say that the play station page is an advertisement. Please can you explain why these things have come up. FishingKiing - Waging War On Wiki Vandals (talk) 12:50, 23 June 2012 (UTC) }

Your references are either the companies own website, a company selling their products or facebook - none of them are reliable sources. You also appear to be adding the companies product brochure into the article which is what makes it look like an advert. There is nothing that show the company meets the notability guidelines at WP:ORG. noq (talk) 13:07, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Nominated it for CSD A7, could not find anything promising. --DBigXray 14:52, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Leinster Academy

Hi, I undid your delete of my work on the Leinster Academy. You stated that the academy players are not notable. I completely disagree. Many of these players are of significant interest, many are likely to be internationals in the future given the success rate of that Academy. Many previous graduates now play for Leinster or others sides. Recent Leinster graduates are now playing for Leicester, Cardiff, Munster - some of Europe's top sides. Many never/barely break into the Leinster first team but go straight into top class teams elsewhere. People I believe have an interest in this information. It is referenced and does not detract from the rest of the page.

I do not understand why you would delete someone else's work without any consultation.

Cfs198 (talk) 11:57, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

The current list of Academy players undoubtedly contain some that will become notable in the future - and lots that will not. If they have a professional contract and have played for the first team then they meet the requirements - until then they are not notable and the section as a whole is not notable. Other teams academy members are not listed so why do it for this one team? noq (talk) 12:10, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Not correct, Munster's Academy players have been listed for 2 seasons or so and nobody has thought to delete that. In the case of the 3 Irish Provinces their Academy players are the backbone of their British and Irish Cup sides. That competition also features the entire English Championship. Munster and Leinster were this year's semi-finalists, Munster winning. Therefore the Munster/Leinster A teams, made up primarily of Academy players, are well able for the entire English Championship. Nobody is proposing deleting the Championship squads as not notable. Many in both those Academy's have played senior games, but are not on contracts. Jordi Murphy even has his own page. Half a dozen Munster Academy players were promoted to the senior squad for next season and had their own pages prior to that promotion e.g. (JJ Hanrahan, Luke O'Dea, Dave O'Callaghan. Even though they are only now starting their first professional contracts they were of significant interest to people as they emerged through the past year as players in the A and then First team. Cfs198 (talk) 13:00, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Please read WP:NRU - especially the note about youth players. Note the British and Irish cup is not a fully professional competition. The English Championship is a full professional competition and so there is no question of removing them or their first team players. Do these academy players play in the RaboDirect Pro12? If not, then they are not notable. If a small number have is that a valid reason to add an entire section with mostly non notable players. noq (talk) 13:15, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that noq. I have read the link and it refers to articles about notable players. I am not advocating writing an article about any of these players, yet. I am merely listing them. Munster had 5 hookers in their senior squad last year, this year 3. In order to field a second team a member of the academy (e.g. recent IRB Junior World Championship player James Rael) will likely be called up, or one of the second year Hookers. That is before any injuries are experienced. Gareth Quinn-McDonough spent the second half of last season on loan at Doncaster Knights, even though he was only a Munster Academy player.

As they make their way into the senior team over the course of the year then they would merit their own article, as 6 players did this month for next season.

FYI Edinburgh also have an Elite Development squad listed on their page. Cfs198 (talk) 14:31, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Notice of Fringe Theories Noticeboard discussion

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Morrelli, Chance & Hubbart & MacLane

Sir, I think that you are out of line in your quest to have this page deleted. I would like to suggest that you google these men, as it really does not take a great deal of effort to find lots of information about World Class Sailing and the people behind it that has yet to be covered in Wikipedia. The Americas Cup is a large event, that has been going on for a long time now. Sailing is a sport that many people enjoy. I sail, on racing yachts on a regular basis and frankly speaking I knew and sailed with 2 of these men, as a kid, 30 plus years ago. Gino worked with Sail maker Randy Renyolds and Duncan MacLane sailed with me on the "FreeStyle" cat, out of Dana Point as a kid, 30 plus years ago. I knew them well back then but as that was 30 years ago I am in no way biased, I am simply clearifing history.

At no point in anything that is written in Wikipedia does it explain these men and the rolls that each played in creating the worlds first AC Cat, and the roots of todays Cat to the Little Americas Cup. I can not for the life of me understand why you feel so strongly that these men are not what the media has reported them to be (alleging some kind of fraud) and demanding that a story about them, on Wikipedia be removed. I have also taken the time to reach out to them via e mail SIMPLY to obtain some photos for the story, that you are so intent on removing.

You seem to be the only one that feels this story should be censored. Clearly you are not reading the stories that are linked to this, or taking any effort to look for yourself, perhaps you might want to do that at some point to gain some clearity. This is a story the deserves to be told, please stop with your solo quest to unwrite the history of the Americas Cup. Thank you

I would like to note that the Cat itself (US 1) has NO wiki page. As a professional photographer I have photos of this boat somerewhere in my chrome archives. I am looking for them now and will create a page, on the FIRST EVER CATAMARAN to compete in the Americas Cup, as it is a story that is hardly mentioned in Wiki. Another intresting note is that as a result of the legal challange from Mr. Fay and the legal battle that, in many ways tarnished the cup (excuse the pun) back in those days again is hardly covered here, and should be elaborated upon for future generations to be able to learn from and reflect upon. Censorship serves no function here. --WPPilot 13:25, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

But those issues are better served in the existing pages - not in a page named after a collection of names of some of the people that happened to be involved. There is no censorship here and no "quest to unwrite the history of the Americas cup". noq (talk) 13:37, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I would have to disagree. Everything that you read about the 1998 event names this group as a group and the "group" that came together to win a race using technology that each was responsable for bringing into the group. Up to 1998 the Americas Cup was sailed in boats that were monohulls and sailed by men that for the most part only sailed monohulls. Intrestingly and in stark contrast to the sailors that races Catamarans, the Americas Cup sailors would rairly if ever sail Catamarans. As you will see should you read the story now, this was a group of experts that today continue push the technology that was created to defend one of the oldest races on earth. What Duncan did was to pull together a team of experts, A young Mono Hull Expert, a Wing Expert and a world class Cat sailor to create a boat that is a mirror image of what races in the Americas Cup, in Newport RI. TODAY.[2]--WPPilot 12:28, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

You would be better off arguing that at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Morrelli, Chance & Hubbart & MacLane rather than here. You keep repeating yourself and you have failed to show anything else they have done as a group. Please stop asking me to read the full story - I have multiple times. If the only reason they are notable as a group is for the Americas cup boat then, the existing articles that cover that is the appropriate place. As for the last link you added above, what is it supposed to show - I am seeing no reference to any of these people on that page. noq (talk) 12:57, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

You are totally out of line and should excuse yourself from the conversation regarding this story, you have nominated the page for Articles for deletion and you now need to let the Wiki community decide as to the future of the story.--WPPilot 15:49, 5 July 2012 (UTC)(talk)

How am I out of line - the afd process is a debate and I am perfectly entitled to participate in that debate - as are you. noq (talk) 16:01, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

You are out of line via your application of an assumption that this group has no notability. Under your interpretation nothing has any right to be in Wikipedia unless it was involving more then 1 event. Your request seems to be "Show me something else that this group of men did or it does not qualify to have its own Wikipedia page". That is a ridiculous argument that would result in the removal of just about everything on Wikipedia, i.e. Adolph Hitler Only started One World War, so perhaps you can suggest that his article is removed? Most US presidents that only served one term, lets remove those pages too right. Your error is in your logic, you are trying to assert that a group should qualify as a person and the standards that keep driving your efforts to remove this story were crafted from a total lack of understanding the standards AND OBJECTIVES of this Encyclopedia. A group does not need more then one event to qualify if as the standard states the issue meets notability standards, something that it clearly does as others have mentioned.--WPPilot 16:18, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

DAYDREAMER

FYI. I have I have removed the PROD tag you've placed on DAYDREAMER. The article is notable and covered by other independent sources which are not affiliated with the subject. Though controvercial, its notability is not in question, so I don't know why only sources by Mueller were used. If you disagree, take it to Afd.Tamsier (talk) 20:00, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Comparison of accounting software

Hi,

Thanks for your response, i have read through the objectivity article, i would like to add the software to the competitor list as it is a competitor to some of the firms, could you kindly advise as how i may add the software in a more objective manor?

Thanks

There would need to be an existing article about the software before it could be added to this list. I notice that your attempts to create one have been rejected several times and you would need to address those issues first. However, I would urge you not to do this as you appear from your user name to be connected to the company. Creating articles in which you have a WP:conflict of interest is discouraged. If the company is notable then sooner or later an article will be created. noq (talk) 11:44, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

That makes sense, thanks for the honest answer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jciniamelkis (talk • contribs) 11:52, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Serer religion

Regarding your recent revert of my changes [3]. I added ref yesterday and forget to remove the tag [4] you can see it better here [5]. Please revert your edit. I would also like an apology in the edit summary for your gross accusation. Thank you.Tamsier (talk) 23:43, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

• Hi, I have been involved in some sort of dispute with Tamsier for a few days now and it seems that you and he have interacted in the past. As you can see here, Tamsier has been posting a number of insults and accusations. To whom can I turn for assistance in this matter? I'd also like some help with my original concerns regarding the NPOV nature of all (as far as I can tell) Serer articles. Eladynnus (talk) 10:52, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

the WP:dispute resolution noticeboard might be a good place to start. noq (talk) 11:14, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

July 24

Hi Noq, you just reverted my changes in July 24 pages by removing the date of death of Qudrat Ullah Shahab. He is well known Urdu author. 1:37 AM 25 July 2012 (UTC) Zeeshan Amjad

If you are referring to my last edit on that page then it did not revert your change but the ones following yours as stated in the edit summary. noq (talk) 11:49, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining this to me. 1:16 PM 25 July 2012 (UTC) Zeeshan Amjad

Nomination for deletion of Template:Gotras of Jats

Template:Gotras of Jats has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 10:28, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Sarah Wayne Callies main image

Since you are one of the recent contributors to the Sarah Wayne Callies article, I thought you might want to give your opinion at Talk:Sarah_Wayne_Callies#2012_Main_infobox_images.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:35, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

hi

why no nazi germany portal!! It's only a history.--Neogeolegend (talk) 16:59, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

There isn't one. There is no point in a redlink in a see also section. noq (talk) 17:02, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

This means the portal could be created!! because I have created the arabic version and you can see in an other languages like japanese and german. I wonder why no one has created English version! Did wikibedia discuss this issue before.--Neogeolegend (talk) 17:11, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes it could be created, I don't know if it has been discussed. But a See Also section should not contain redlinks - whether there is any call for a specific Nazi Germany portal as well as the current Germany portal is a discussion for elsewhere. noq (talk) 18:12, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

The portal almost completed. development in progress. --Neogeolegend (talk) 22:44, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Thank you for your assistance with my Jetset Magazine article. If you can please assist me in establishing the proper requirements I would be quite appreciative. Kinghov (talk) 22:19, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Jat list and references

I believe that the tools are now in place to insist on the referencing of items placed on that list. I simply took your lead and good work and strengthened it. The challenge is that none of the list e,embers so far are cited in the list as valid list members. From experience I have found that many editors are unaware of the requirement for list members to be cited in the list as valid members of the list. Editors are often full of goodwill and enthusiasm in this part of the world, and less concerned with the technical necessities for Wikipedia, so I am not sure how to proceed with mandating citations in the list.

I have doubts that the draconian approach of removing all uncited items wholesale and only allowing them back once cited would work well here, though it has proved successful in many other areas, though I'm quite prepared to give it a try. I also recognise that consensus building shoudl not take place on you or my talk pages. I just wanted to ask you to think the issue over. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 15:24, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Vu TelePresence

hi Noq now i have given reference for all the mentions Please dont delete the article or i will lose my Job. Please tell me what to do next. I will do as per you Guidance. Thank you. Shravanshetty502 (talk) 12:47, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

hi Noq its as per the guidance of wikipedia. the only think is that we dont have much articles in Newspapers Shravanshetty502 (talk) 05:58, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kerim Agius

Pile on so we can make all of them a G4 next time. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 13:03, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Help me to improve or delete the page

Hi Noq, thanks for reviewing my article: Saman Pourisa. I added some references to the article, but since I couldn’t find an English source, all the references are in Persian. If sources in another language cannot be counted as reliable sources, please help me to delete the article. Parira (talk) 19:53, 7 August 2012 (UTC) Parira

Rhodesia beating the All Blacks

I've commented at Talk:New Zealand national rugby union team#Rhodesia about the conflict over whether Rhodesia is one of the nations to have beaten the All Blacks. It may be just that Rhodesia is not considered a test nation. I suspect this can be resolved by a bit of discussion rather than continuing down the escalating warning path.-gadfium 20:47, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Balboa Yacht Club

Your tag has been removed and clearly you are continuing your Drive By tagging with total disregard to the facts. I am creating pages for each yacht club in Newport Beach. I have created a common template and as with the case of Balboa Yacht Club I have a slew of ref's that establish its Notability. If you have something to say perhaps you would be better off using the TALK pages rather then just tagging and running off to tag another page please explain yourself:

Here is a catagory for yachtclubs in the US: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Category:Yacht_clubs_in_the_United_States And below is a link to a Yacht Club in San Francisco: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/St._Francis_Yacht_Club Now with your overwhelming wisdom please point out what it is that a club must do to be NOTABLE and worthy of being included with a Wiki page????

The data that is on the St Francis page is the same data that is on the BYC page, I would love to hear you explain why the BYC page does not meet the criteria of NOTABILITY ADVERT but the St Francis page does?

Do you not like sailing for some reason or is this just a personal attack upon my efforts now?--WPPilot 13:08, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

PLEASE PROVIDE SOME TYPE OF REASONING FOR YOUR CONDUCT, YOU HAVE BECOME ABUSIVE AND ARE ATTACKING MY EFFORTS REGARDLESS OF STANDING. You as others do can use the TALK pages to define your perspective, but you are not in any way being a productive member of Wikipedia. Please tell us the answer to the questions above?

Your attack at my efforts has become harrassment, nothing less. You have not placed a single tag upon any yacht clubs in the US other then the 3 tags that you feel the BYC page need, yet you refuse to communicate in a forthright manner. I will continue to remove your tags unless you can explain your efforts, on the talk pages as is required and what it is that you propose to do with these yachtclubs.--WPPilot 18:08, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

I am not being parinoid. You are stalking me and my edits and pages. I have created http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:Balboa_Yacht_Club

and suggest that before you tag and run, that you as it states in the tag the you deposit with daily regularity across the whole of wikipedia define your actions in detail, the tags state: MORE INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE TALK PAGE. Yet for whatever reason you seem to miss out on that part of the tag, and you just deposit a tag and run away, kind of like a sucker punch.--WPPilot 18:13, 9 July 2012 (UTC) Noq the waste man — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nanoboy852 (talk • contribs) 15:03, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Wall Decals

Hey Noq, that link was factual and sound. They're a provider of wall decals being cited in a wall decal article - is that not normal around here? While the language of the site may be casual, the information posted is true and I believe it aids in the representation of facts in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.85.170.48 (talk) 21:29, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Well the link you added was not a reference - it was not verifying a claim in the article so it failed on that score. It also was to a website selling these things and the faq was geared towards that. So how exactly did it improve the article? noq (talk) 23:17, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

regarding your proposed speedy deletion of article Posiva

I have explained my position on the article's talk page. In short, it appears obvious to me that the article is not a candidate for speedy deletion. If you still think it should be deleted, please start a regular deletion process, so I can put my arguments to a wider jury. Thank you. --Teemu Leisti (talk) 13:56, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of Anthrax (computer virus)

Hi,

I have been looking to update the List of computer viruses page by removing as many redlinks as possible.

The Anthrax (computer virus) page was one of these redlinks. As I have heard of this virus before, I decided to research it and create a page instead of deleting the redlink.

However I can see that this virus is just a standard DOS virus (of which there are countless varieties).

This is a bit of a tough choice for me, as many of the viruses listed on the List of computer viruses page, rely on anti-virus definitions for their references, including the Anthrax virus.

Should these articles be deleted if they only reference Anti-virus definitions, leaving only (in)famous virus articles? This could mean deleting many of the virus articles present on Wikipedia.

Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Sirkus (talk) 15:01, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Well, I don't see the need for wikipedia to maintain articles for the many, many viruses that have been created. WP:notability needs to be shown and I don't think AV definitions are useful WP:reliable sources for that purpose. They are effectively directory entries. If there is something more about the virus - the first to use a particular technique, high impact, etc then an article should exist, but not otherwise. noq (talk) 15:06, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying that. As I am quite new to Wikipedia I am still learning what constitutes a valid article and I appreciate your feedback.

I know this is beyond the context of this deletion query, but would you recommend that I request deletion for virus articles from Wikipedia that do not meet the above criteria? (e.g. not high impact), or do you think I should leave them as they are?

Thanks again.

Sirkus (talk) 16:48, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

I need your help in a new article

Dear Noq,

I am facing trouple in the infobox of my draft article Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Mohsen AL-Akoor. The infobox seems to appear on the bottom of the page. Would you kindly please help me by making it on the upper right hand side of the page.

Yours Sincerly, Al Qurashi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Al Qurashi (talk • contribs) 05:20, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

I have looked at the above article and you were missing a closing tag for the infobox. I have added |} to the end of the infobox to correct this. noq (talk) 06:50, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	Thank you noq for helping me Yours Al Qurashi Al Qurashi (talk) 20:03, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Hello! I am studying and if I will certainly write the next article I will do it better. I thank for the price of the attention. I am greeting. - AdamLeyton — Preceding unsigned comment added by AdamLeyton (talk • contribs) 14:37, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Siegfried August Maximilian Maria, Duke in Bavaria and Duke Siegfried August in Bavaria it is the same article written by me. The first time round I simply filled it with writing under the bad title. I am looking the small child after and happened. - AdamLeyton — Preceding unsigned comment added by AdamLeyton (talk • contribs) 14:41, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of Saracens F.C.

Concerning your deletion of added information in the Saracens article, commenting that a fans forum is not a capable reference Normally i would agree with you, but since the comment was what about fans started to call it, surely a fans forum acts as a source for that? Nosebagbear (talk) 20:41, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

New Page Patrolling

Hi. Thank you for patrolling new pages. I'm just wondering why you tagged Edmond Travel Limited with WP:A7 within a few minutes. It has no content. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:22, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Template:Jaunté Jacobs

If the parent article of a template has been deleted, you can just tag the template for G8 speedy deletion ("dependent on a nonexistant or deleted page"). Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 18:04, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Loafer Band

Thank you. It's a good feeling to know there's someone out there helping. Richlevine00 (talk) 15:21, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

An argument for my article

If there is any named Islam and antisemitism to describe Muslims as enemies of Islam for the people who read Wikipedia then why have u cleared my article?--Jozoisis (talk) 18:21, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

I did not. Another editor did that as a response to the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Islamophobia and Judaism - that is the place to argue for the article to be kept. By the way, please do not remove the afd notice from the article - it will only be restored and you may be blocked if you persist. noq (talk) 18:34, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

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Serer articles

I see you noticed the huge see also sections. I removed some already plus some bibliographies. These articles, all created by the same person (a Serer and a believer in Serer religion) are a mess, mixing oral tradition with history, cherry picking sources, a couple of seriously bad translations that changed the meaning, using a source for a 1335 battle and ignoring the fact that the source says it's really an oral tradition reflecting a battle that took place in 1865, you name it. Dougweller (talk) 18:12, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I've cross swords with User:Tamsier in the past. noq (talk) 18:22, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

As you probably know, he's blocked for three months and says he's not returning, something he repeated on fr.wiki this weekend. Dougweller (talk) 19:22, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

I have reason to believe he is an ardent follower of the Serer religion. And that would explain these edits I had to make to keep the creation myth article npov [6], [7]. Some of his translations are dicey also, eg [8]. Dougweller (talk) 05:27, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Christmas: God With Us

Hello. I'm wondering why you reverted the article Christmas: God With Us back to being just a redirect page? The album is an official album from a very notable singer/songwriter (Jeremy Camp) signed to a very well-known label BEC Recordings. Yes, the album will be released later this month, but all the information is completely accurate, being taken from the official album page on the label's website.

Thanks The Hyphen 16:28, 10 September 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Hyphen (talk • contribs)

Please read WP:NALBUMS. Not every album will be notable and this one showed nothing to say it was notable. noq (talk) 17:02, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

About Alessandro Vezzosi

Hi Noq. I'm "taking the Fifth" here. --Shirt58 (talk) 13:21, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Page Curation newsletter

Hey Noq. I'm dropping you a note because you used to (or still do!) patrol new pages. This is just to let you know that we've deployed and developed Page Curation, which augments and supersedes Special:NewPages - there are a lot of interesting new features :). There's some help documentation here if you want to familiarise yourself with the system and start using it. If you find any bugs or have requests for new features, let us know here. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 12:47, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the Speedy Deletion

In the midst of a busy day, I was notified that you had nominated my article on the All-Russian Mathematical Portal for speedy deletion. Was it really so bad that it needed to be treated so abruptly and rudely? Do you know anything at all about Russian mathematics? If it is not sufficiently notable for you that this portal is a project of the Russian Academy of Science, why not raise the question in the Talk page for the article? For a person who seems to have a Barnstar for "Civility", this seems a most uncivil action. — Prof. Loren Cobb, Dept. of Mathematics, University of Colorado Denver, Aetheling (talk) 20:20, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Noq. You have new messages at Talk:ITM Power.
Message added 21:04, 11 October 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

W.D. 21:04, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

ITM Power- Ref Improve

Hi there Noq, I was just wondering why you decided to put the ref improve template on ITM Power, I did previously remove that template, and if you objected my removal of the template, perhaps it should have been brought up on the talk page prior to the re-addition. I also disagree somewhat with the notability template, as it is covered by independent reliable sources. Most major references are either from a third party or backed up by a listed third party source. As for the non-executive director statement, common sense is required, as a company would probably not lie about their non-executive director. Thanks W.D. 18:19, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Most of the references are either local news stories, some of which do not even mention the company in the main text but just in user comments. Others are to the companies own web site or just directory or announcement sites. Others read as press releases - so better refs are needed. I am still not sure how this small company meets the notability guidelines for companies. noq (talk) 23:50, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Apologies for the misunderstanding, but all of the references mention ITM Power in the main text. There is one reference that seems to be considered a press release. One. Aside from that, all major statements are backed up by reliable, third party sources. Common sense required in Wikipedia, not just rules. Common sense means believing that a company would not lie about who their director is. It is a national company covered by reliable sources, and therefore I believe it is notable. Hence, I am removing the templates. Thanks, W.D.(O.T.G) (talk) 12:44, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Not sure why you are talking about directors - I never mentioned them - but you have still failed to answer how the company meets WP:ORG. This reference dose not mention the company except in a user comment at the end. The history section just seems to be a list of people being appointed - not anything significant. The Green car reference mentions the company in passing - not significant coverage. The Hydrogen journal reference starts off "UK hydrogen company ITM Power reports that its revenues have grown from £8k to £480k in one year" and continues in the vein of a press release. Please address these issues before removing the tags. noq (talk) 12:57, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

It seems this company is part of a project to make the Isle of Wight carbon neutral, as demonstrated by the cites I added, as of 21 October 2012. See Minister of State for Energy John Hayes, Bloomberg News, The Economist, and The UK House of Commons report for more information. I believe this makes the company notable. Please discuss. Geraldshields11 (talk) 01:59, 22 October 2012 (UTC) Geraldshields11 (talk) 00:45, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Exa Web

Thanks for reviewing the page. In the past when the page was created, it has already gone through this phase and passed successfully. Please go through the history of the page and more importantly go through the already existing talk page of the article to read more about " why the page should not be deleted" and the reasons therein. Also, spend 5 mins to go through each and every link mentioned in the reference to justify the encyclopedic nature of the content and recast your vote. Thank you. Sajal12 (talk) 04:06, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

In the past it was declined a speedy deletion nomination - this does not mean that it is immune from a prod proposal. If you read the prod rationale you will see that I have read all the references and dismissed them for one reason or another. The discussion on the talk page also seems to show you are not actually writing about the company but about a government scheme that the company is on - and that is not appropriate to the article or the notability of the company. The prod can be removed by anyone at any time but should you choose to do so without addressing the concerns raised, I will take it to a formal AFD discussion. noq (talk) 08:13, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

It seems you didn't go through the links clearly and you just skimmed, request you to do so immediately. Please read each and every item clearly before putting your comments. The very first line of the page itself justifies the significance of why the article should exist, its not the usual kind of wiki promo articles for a prod or org. It clearly states the sole reason of notability and existence as companies assisted by Victorian Government. If the letter from the Premier of Victorian Government seems like a promo or irrelevant, then it shows your mere ignorance. And the very idea of calling a Patent looks like a directory listing to you, it solidifies the same premise stated in the last sentence. I decline your deletion proposal. If you are not competent enough to understand, refer it for AfD. Sajal12 (talk) 04:29, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

JMRW67

I don't understand why you deleted my changes.

I have done similar changes with my IP adress before and there was no problem

I think the external links I have added have their place in an enclyclopedia and are not spam. Look at them.

Although as I am a new registered user you can if you want explain me why my changes are irrelevant.

Now I am blocked for spam and vandalim!

Thanks JMRW67 (talk) 04:35, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

You do not appear to be blocked - if you were you would not be able to post here. The links you added seem to be to a personal website, and more specifically it seems to be your personal website. Wikipedia is not designed to increase traffic to your website and external links should meet the criteria at WP:ELNO. noq (talk) 15:23, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Response You mean "Links mainly intended to promote a website"

Concerning chess, you can see my website presented here :http://www.jmrw.com/Bannieres.htm

 For Bobby Fisher I agree there are already plenty of links on him.
 Concerning chess studies, I am one of the proeminent member of ARVES http://www.arves.org/English/index.htm
   My page http://www.jmrw.com/Chess/Chess_Curiosities1.htm has no equivallent.
   So the informations provided by my page on chess studies cannot be found somewhere else on Wikipedia.

Concerning Strasbourg, the major of Strasbourg asked me the permission to place my slideshow on his blog

 Here I agree that other people have done pictures of Strasbourg, so there is no reason I would be privilegied.

You can see here (in french) my website presented : http://echecs64.20minutes-blogs.fr/archive/2012/10/23/mariage-de-reve-entre-echecs-arts-voyages-problemes-et-etude.html

Best regards

Later response You discourage me working for Wikipedia.

The slideshow on Strasbourg http://www.jmrw.com/France/Strasbourg/diaporama/index.htm would too greatly interest Wikipedia users. The slideshow on chess paintings http://www.jmrw.com/Chess/Tableau_echecs/index.htm is unique too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JMRW67 (talk • contribs) 21:07, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Do you want to apply malthusianism to wikipedia?

Best regards [User:JMRW67|JMRW67]] (talk) 10:35, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Well WP:ELNO criteria number 11 seems to apply - your personal website is not a good external link or reference. Your WP:conflict of interest also indicates why it should not be added to this encyclopaedia. noq (talk) 00:10, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

A link to chess paintings was added, and immediately removed as spam. I took a look at it, and see no reason why it should be considered spam. It isn't advertising anything. It is a large collection of paintings of people playing board games, and of chess pieces, and perhaps other things (I didn't look at all fifteen hundred images). There may be reasons to oppose linking to it, but I think "spam" isn't one. J S Ayer (talk) 00:40, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Do I have the permission to put this link again ? Best regard JMRW67 (talk) 09:20, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

All Saint's Episcopal Church (Fort Lauderdale) proposed deletion

Hi Noq, I have added additional sources to this articles and will be continuing to add more over the week. Our centennial is next week so I'm trying to make a solid article by then. I removed the "proposed deletion flag" since member of my church are not very Wikipedia savvy and this will freak them out. Feel free to add it back if you feel the additional sources are not sufficient though. I am not really a Wikipedia newbie. I used to edit articles and make new ones all the time. I'm just took a long break and when I came back I created a new username. I'm really rusty! Cfitzpatrick3 (talk) 17:34, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

List of Jat clans

It seems extraordinary, but since the list was emptied of uncited items, there has not been a single new addition to it. In view of the prior enthusiasms for adding uncited items to the list are you as surprised as I am? Of course `I am sure I am tempting providence here, but it does at least mean that there is the chance to search for citations for new and uncited items where one feels in the mood instead of simply removing them. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 07:36, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Ah but will the existence of one entry encourage the deluge again. I suppose people are not to bothered if their clan is not present as long as their neighbours is not. noq (talk) 08:03, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

I had the same question in my head. Time will tell, I fear. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 08:04, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

WIth the article static for a long time now, and empty, I nominated it for deletion. I'll be interested in the outcome. I don't propose to argue against any arguments to keep it. I intend to let it run to whatever conclusion it comes to. You are as welcome to suggest it be deleted as to suggest it be kept, but I wanted to ensure you know of the discussion so you can contribute if you choose. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 09:34, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Michael Morpurgo

Hi Noq. re my edit of Michael Morpurgo's page, I was at school with Morpurgo at The Abbey, Ashurst Wood, Sussex. I'd imagined that just correcting the info was enough. Maybe it should simply stay uncorrected; I've tried enough times! — Preceding unsigned comment added by J Roger Clifford-Banks (talk • contribs) 07:50, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately, changes like that need to be verified with a WP:reliable source otherwise anybody can claim to have been to school with him and change it indiscriminately. noq (talk) 09:36, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

PROD tag on Chartvizer Office

I've removed your PROD on the article and replaced it with an A3 CSD tag. Right move? Buggie111 (talk) 18:38, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Only problem with that is if the speedy is declined, the prod cannot be re-instated. Better to just add the speedy tag and leave the prod. noq (talk) 18:40, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Ahh, I see. Users are allowed to do that, add prod tags which they've rethought back into the article? Buggie111 (talk) 18:47, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Once its gone, its gone. Just no need to remove one in future when adding a db tag. noq (talk) 18:55, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Concrete Soul

I've declined your A9 because there is an article on the artist (and it's accessible from the article now I've corrected the link...). How notable the thing or the artist are is another matter, possibly. Peridon (talk) 21:08, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Those Jat clans

I know you and I have strong feelings about referencing of the article. I have just left a happy note on the talk page of the editor who has reinstated the entire list of clans and added some references welcoming them to the article. I had it up at AfD where it will probably be 'kept', but have no strong feelings about it except that every entry should be a referenced entry. I was hoping you might enjoy welcoming their support in getting the entries referenced too. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 13:32, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

NTGR Research Link

Noq, thank you for the reply. I have reviewed the information in the link requirements and feel that the information provided in the link I submitted meaningfully adds to the wikipedia user experience. The information provided on the linked page provides non-open source updated financial information on the company which isn't appropriate to place directly on the Wikipedia page itself. Also see the following link for a another long-standing example on wikipedia: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Microsoft [Special:Contributions/98.226.186.88|98.226.186.88]] (talk) 21:10, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

It is a link to a small financial research company. That company does not seem to be established enough to be a WP:reliable source and the small amount of information that is shown is not significant and can easily be obtained from more established companies such as yahoo. All your posts so far seem to be linking to this one small organization which makes it look very much like trying to get the company named in Wikipedia. noq (talk) 21:17, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

The Data source is Thomson Reuters (not a small financial company). At first glance this might look like data from Yahoo and some of it can be found there. Much of it isn't.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.226.186.88 (talk • contribs)

finjitsu.com does not seem to be Reuters - they have their own website for this information. noq (talk) 21:38, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Rambam's Laws

Hi Noq, sorry, just adding a Deprod. :-) Please see original article for my reasons; happy to discuss the requirements for notability / reasons for deletion etc., but would have appreciated a simple message first!

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Rambam's Laws, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpdehnel (talk • contribs) 16:35 22 July 2012

Certum EV revert

@Noq: Your revert http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Extended_Validation_Certificate&diff=499678826&oldid=499670486 with the note "No indication of notability" is ignorant of you. CERTUM is one of Poland's largest CAs and it is trusted in all major browsers as well as Windows. Therefore it is used as popular AuthentiCode CA and used for many OpenSource projects since they give free certificates to OpenSource developers (e.g. the developers of TurtoiseSVN). So please re-add this edit.

Mohammed Shia' Al Sudani Page

Hi, This the reference of Mohammed Shia' Al Sudani Page from the CIA website He is one of the famous ministers in Iraq and most of the People here Know him https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/world-leaders-1/world-leaders-i/iraq.html

Bgg ELs

Hello, I'm curious to know how you feel about Boardgamegeek ELs in board game articles? (There are hundreds of such articles.) Your removal here is what prompted my Q. (I'm not challenging the removal, just trying to understand consistency re EL policy.) Thanks, Ihardlythinkso (talk) 19:20, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

At this point of course I challenged the removal (by adding it back). Note there is a WP template for BGG. Okay, Ihardlythinkso (talk) 20:26, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Jan Ozveren

I declined your speedy deletion request for this article because it appears to have been expanded substantially from the version that had been previously deleted at AFD. Please feel free to create a new AFD nomination, if you believe that it is necessary. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 18:16, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Removal of Copyrighted Materials

Permission from the copyright holder PAIRS Foundation was provided to include the materials added to the feminist movement and relationship education articles. I have reverted the deletions and added the {{OTRS pending}} notice. Please let me know if any other action is necessary. Thank you.

I see that you've removed content. Kindly let me know if any other action is necessary in order to confirm that permission was granted. Thank you.MerlinsMagic (talk) 19:08, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

When it is confirmed, the admin that confirms it will indicate the ticket number. noq (talk) 19:24, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Just a note that we received the ticket (2012112710011715) and I have approved it (and indicated so on the talk pages). I haven't re-introduced the content into the article though, that's an editorial decision. Thanks, Legoktm (talk) 20:05, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your help with this! Much appreciated. MerlinsMagic (talk) 20:54, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

George_Washington_Carver_Senior_High_School

I noticed you made a number of edits to this article in the past. Perhaps you'd like to have a look at: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:George_Washington_Carver_Senior_High_School - GroveGuy (talk) 04:27, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

A Good Day to Die Hard

Thanks for reverting that prevandelism edit there. Someone also replaced the name Bruce Willis with someone else as well, which was also prevandelized, and I reverted that edit. But I didn't know that the filming location was vandelized as well. So thank you for that. BattleshipMan (talk) 21:04, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

LAYYAH

Hi Before you go for a blind edit warning use simple Common sense. You need reliability where there lies a doubt, but my brother when you are making an article on a town (LAYYAH) of Province Punjab then it is very obvious that it must have Punjabi dialects as an language because it is part of PROVINCE PUNJAB. and main dialect is THalochi which is derived from Desert named Thal ( which is very obvious from geography of the town which is head quarter of the District comprising 80 % with thal desert). So common sense should prevail over RULES. rules are made for purpose and here purpose is realibilty and in this case reliability is obvious. STILL i have provided 2 references and a wiki pedia MAP which was not up loaded by me. i have also linked it with WIKIPEDIA page on PUNJABI DIALECTS. I hope to see a mature rather then a rigid and machine reply. REGARDS Saraikistan (talk) 14:39, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

All Saints Episcopal Church, Fort Lauderdale, Florida

Hi Noq, the reason why I added the gallery of stained glass is in the description of the church architecture I referred to those windows and someone added a citation needed label. I can't find sources that describe the windows but they are in fact there, so I figured that uploading pictures of them would be better. Was that not the way to go? Cfitzpatrick3 (talk) 02:05, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Adding a gallery will not help to provide a cite, but one or two of the pictures could be included in the appropriate section. noq (talk) 08:01, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Question

Whats the correct way to move a page then. Koala15 (talk) 17:14, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Go to this page and follow the instructions. It needs an admin to delete the target page to make way for the page to be moved. noq (talk) 17:32, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Aruba Airlines

Hello Noq, Just wanted to request a Deprod on Aruba Airlines. I have added sources that can provide notability. I will be adding more third party references to the article and I am requesting Image uploads for the Logo and Airplanes the company has. Thanks for keeping an eye out and look forward to your feedback. I haved deleted the {{prod}} tag from the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EfrainValles (talk • contribs) 16:43, 28 December 2012

Thanks for your input to both this and the Fly Aruba article, NOQ. It's not my area of expertise at all - I just clicked-through in repsonse to a request from a worried-sounding user at the Teahouse - but it would be nice to help if we can. I think I understand your concern re neutrality on the Fly Aruba article, and I have tried again to edit it to achieve this. I have removed the reference to the AREVENCA Group as I can find no evidence that this was a legitimate entity (and plenty of blogs accusing it of outright fraud, but I doubt those meet Wikepedia's reference requirements). The original request for help was also understandably about distinguishing the bankrupt Fly Aruba from the extant Aruba Airlines; I understand your edit to remove the separate 'unrelated' section on this article, but could it be helpful to just clarify in passing as part of the main text? John Snow II (talk) 12:48, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

CSD declined on Occidental Hotels and Resorts

I have removed the speedy deletion tag on Occidental Hotels and Resorts. A claim of 80 hotels in 15 countries is of enough significance to defeat a speedy deletion. I have no opinion on whether the article should be kept, but if it is to be deleted, it will need to go to AfD. Regards, GregJackP Boomer! 01:58, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

The CSD was for G4 not A7 - it has already been to AFD with a result of delete. Please leave it for an admin to confirm if it has been substantially altered from the deleted version. noq (talk) 11:56, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Help for proceeding

Hi, I noticed that you have put deletion nomination for my article T.S. Pattabhiraman. I understood that I have made some mistakes in that. Please guide me how can I work for removing the deletion box and upgrade my article. He is one of the famous entrepreneur from Kerala, according to me, his article is needed but if I failed to improve it in my own way, please help me to improve it and also guide me how to overcome the deletion nomination. I hope you will support me and guide me how to do.Mydreamsparrow (talk) 14:11, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Peacock

Why do you maintain that the adjective "famous" constitutes peacock? If fame can't be measured, then neither can be notability. Toccata quarta (talk) 00:45, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Are you sure you do not want to reply? Toccata quarta (talk) 16:00, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

I thought Talk:Bobby Fischer#Please stay on topic people by User:Curb Chain summed it up nicely. noq (talk) 16:48, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

James Houston

Thank you!

― Lgfcd (talk) 20:52, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Lil Twist

I left a note on his talk page, I believe Lil Twist clearly meets WP:Music criteria and his page should not be deleted. Mazy1 (talk) 10:50, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

You have made claims on the talk page but not backed them up with evidence. Until that is forthcoming, the results of WP:Articles for deletion/Lil Twist stand. noq (talk) 11:06, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

added evidence of notability. Mazy1 (talk) 21:47, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Weird coincidence

You tried to revert this at exactly the same time as me, precisely 11 hours after it was done. Rcsprinter (message) @ 11:42, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Masiela Lusha

Hello, I hope you help me against the vandalism, who delete his Ethnic and Citizenship.:)

Thankyou--88.72.225.156 (talk) 20:58, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Removed gallery

Why did you remove the gallery from Architettura Sonora? The uniqueness and notability of this company arises from the uniqueness of their product design, so an illustrative gallery of these designs seems appropriate. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:03, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Galleries are generally discouraged on Wikipedia and this one made the article look like a product catalogue. noq (talk) 13:32, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Since the company's notability arises from its unique designs (read the references), how would you suggest that we illustrate that? WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:08, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

PS: According to the Wikipedia:Image use policy:

...the use of a gallery section may be appropriate in some Wikipedia articles if a collection of images can illustrate aspects of a subject that cannot be easily or adequately described by text or individual images. The images in the gallery collectively must have encyclopedic value and add to the reader's understanding of the subject.

I believe the gallery served this encyclopedic purpose by presenting a series of images that, taken together, illustrate the uniqueness of the subject's designs. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:11, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

I think it overkill. One or two images included with text to put it on context would be appropriate but not turning the page into a product catalogue. noq (talk) 18:13, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Name in native languages

I found that you removed my addition of names in native languages in the article Andaman and Nicobar Islands. But this is not the policy of Wikipedia. In all the articles related to the states and union territories of India (e.g. Punjab, Lakshdweep, etc.) the names in native languages are mentioned. So why Andaman should be an exception? Please reply. -Trinanjon Basu (talk) 07:11, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

The main name should be in English on the English language Wikipedia. The infobox has a native name parameter that can be used if needed. noq (talk) 11:48, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Removal of Content

Noq, I noticed that you are repeatedly removing content that I have added which I would like to address. I would like to start by mentioning that open source web content is for everyone, not just a select group with subjective opinions and views. As enjoyable as it can be participating in a big project, this seems to be rather concerning to me that you flawlessly remove content and consider it spam, while leaving other identical content active!

This is what you wrote entitled (STILL SPAM): "Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Relationship counseling. While objective prose about beliefs, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. noq (talk) 19:58, 20 February 2013 (UTC)"

I can easily find dozens of active and aged edits within wikipedia that are well below your soapboxing, advertising, promoting and SPAMMING guidelines. If you simply looked at the page in question, you would see that for yourself. Or, you're simply choosing to ignore them! None the less, according to your standards, a quarter of the edits on this website should be abolished!

If my post is going to be repeatedly removed, then I will be forced to contact the proper channels as you are clearly not being fair in judgement and are definitely not promoting a environment open to all.

Dan

"So there is an increasing need for the scientific community to engage with Wikipedia to ensure that the information it contains is accurate and current. For scientists, contributing to Wikipedia is an excellent way of fulfilling public engagement responsibilities and sharing expertise. For example, some Wikipedian scientists have successfully integrated biological data with Wikipedia to promote community annotation.[3][4] This, in turn, encourages wider access to the linked data via Wikipedia. Others have used the wiki model to develop their own specialist, collaborative databases.[5][6][7][8] Taking your first steps into Wikipedia can be daunting, but here we provide some tips that should make the editing process go smoothly."

Oscontributor (talk) 21:07, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Noq,

Since Wikipedia is the open source for everyone to update information and also edit for the correctness. I don't understand why you just remove the update information, especially the correct URL for the corporate website. It is fine if you want to verify the correctness but pushing the dated information won't help contributing the right thing to the community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PeaceinThailand (talk • contribs) 17:45, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

I have moved your comment to where I think you meant to place it. Now what are you actually complaining about - unlike you, I have made more than 1 edit and yours was just to make this comment here. You need to be more specific about what you claim I have done. noq (talk) 23:57, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!

for correcting my mistake here :) I missed that i was reverting to another bad version. :) Cheers! Anir1uph | talk | contrib 12:53, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

User KanawhaCo

MANY thanks for observing this about the user name. So far the Kanawha County WV article has been butchered with phone numbers of city locations, the new Walmart and how its filled with swell people and family fun. Ilove the state, but we dont need this do we? I even have another editor telling me, I should not have that data there. I didnt place it there. I removed it.Coal town guy (talk) 14:19, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for cleaning up after me at Berit_Brogaard - I should have been more careful when removing the PROD tag. BrideOfKripkenstein (talk) 22:02, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Page move

Allright, but did you have to undo everything I did!? I want to make the spelling consistent. Can we agree on "Garbeta"?WQUlrich (talk) 22:34, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm going to make an effort to clean up the "History" section on that page. Please do not undo the whole thing. If you have any objections use a scalpel, not a bomb!WQUlrich (talk) 22:55, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

I give up. Know any experts in Indian History?WQUlrich (talk) 00:17, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Regarding your input on Nazi history? Thank you. Please check my "talk" with Kirk and you will see the reasoning for the attempted good faith efforts to edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Integrtiyandhonesty (talk • contribs) 15:24, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

How Ranchi derived its name?

The science behind etymology is a complex thing. No one can claim the exact timing and origin of any word. Similar is the name "Ranchi". There are indeed two theories and you can not overweight one over other. So please don't erase the "Rinchi" bird theory of the evolution of the city's name. I had had a long talk with numerous tribal peoples and there idea originate from this. i am sure one day in written document I will found evidence to this hypothesis too. Thanks Noq — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhi.aarsh (talk • contribs) 07:14, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Please see WP:verifiability and WP:original research. Those edits are not appropriate to Wikipedia. noq (talk) 08:11, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Re: Shrek

Your reversion...yeah I get it, it's hard to cite an Internet meme without citing the Internet. I was just trying to clean up some ongoing edits/reverts especially since the term "Brogre" and other "Shrek" terms do seem to show up in such abundance in Google searches. Where the Brogre term originated and how it was apparently insinuated into the Internet wordstream is probably a subject for some other article (on the order of Campaign for "santorum" neologism perhaps), but I do think that having some type of section/subsection/content about associated Shrek terms as Internet memes is valid content for the article. Shearonink (talk) 18:33, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

A google search on Brogre initially claims 106,000 hits but paging through it peters out at 717. Most memes are just fleeting fads that are forgotten about in a week or so but they still leave traces in google. Unless there is significant coverage in reliable sources, they really don't merit being in the article. noq (talk) 18:40, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

With all those hits the content seemed valid, so I was just trying to tweak the refs and stem the ongoing tide of edits/removals/re-adds of that section occurring earlier today. I've posted on the talk page, maybe others will weigh in. I'm not rabid about keeping it... Cheers, Shearonink (talk) 19:03, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Mohali is Ajitgarh

Hi.. you recently undid one of my edit. Note that Ajitgarh is the new name of Mohali.Vigyani (talk) 12:11, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Then supply a reference that backs that up. Just changing the name without showing that it should be changed will get it reverted back every time. noq (talk) 12:13, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

I had already put some references in the maine page of Mohali/Ajitgarh Vigyani (talk) 12:18, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Mullets and Bars

Hi there, this article isn't eligible for PROD as it was previously deleted by this method - please take to WP:AFD. Regards, GiantSnowman 19:34, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism

If you don't stop vandalising and removing sourced material,you will be reported for vandalism . You are liying by removing two sources and your claims are completely false, by stating the sources don't cite the information, while the sources CLEARLY cite the information with the yearly average rainfall of Lloro and other stations managed by the University of Bogota' in the Choco region. Please note a request to ban you for continous disrputing wikipedia and your vandalism (as I can see your userpage is FULL OF COMPLAINS for the same reason of disrupting edits by other users).It's a real sham wikipedia is ruined by people like you who only disrputs the vandalises this website MaXiMiLiAnO 09:23, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Your edits are pushing your point of view and do not belong on the article you are adding them to. As I said on your talk page WP:Assume good faith. You are making changes to the lead of the article in a way that is not about that article but another one entirely - it does not belong there. By all means add your sources to the article on Lloró - that is where it is appropriate. As I said on your talk page, read WP:BRD - when the edit is disputed you should discuss it on the article talk page instead of ranting on and accusing other editors of vandalism merely because they disagree with you. noq (talk) 09:34, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

What are you talkng about ? Which point of view ? The notes ARE WELL SOURCED. It's amazing how a people can twist facts in order to vandalise and destroy Wikipedia pages.I say you are a vandal because you remove sourced material over and over again, this has NOTHING TO DO with point of view or disagreeing. Wikipedia has clear rules and you are continously violating them by removing sourced material and liying about "points of view" which is not the case. A source is not my point of view. If you want to remove sourced material, you have to discredit the sourced first, you have to say why those sources are unreliable. Why didn t you remove the FALSE climatic table which is point out to Cherrapnuji and not Mawsynram ? Yes, I understand, because you only remove sourced material, not wrong or unsourced material.Typical of vandals.MaXiMiLiAnO 10:00, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

My first edit was reverted because "it lacks sources" . I added one source , my edit was reverted because " one source is not enough". I added a second source and my edit was reverted by you because "the sources don't belong to the page". I think somebody needs a shrink here, if you think this is logic, so you have serious problems. Do you want sources ? I added them. We are comparing the two rainest places in the world, so why you have to say this maddness "the sources talk about another topic" . It's the SAME TOPIC. The full Mawsynram page talk about rainfall. There is nothing else about language, folklore, etc.... So the topic is 100% related. BTW, the climatic data below which I removed -where WRONG because of nother village-Cherrapnuji. Why didn't you remove that wrong climatic table than ? For me it's clear your purpose is just to disrput anybody's else contribution. This is not a correct behaviour. The Lloro' page states the place holds the world record. Mawsynram page states the same thing. THIS IS NOT OK. Can't you see it ? So, it's VERY RELATED to add a note about that , because the information in the two wikipedia pages are CLEARLY CONFLICTING. I am just trying to explain the origin of the conflict, so the matter is 100% related. If you have no ideas of the issue you are talking about, maybe you'd better contribute to other pages. MaXiMiLiAnO 10:08, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

The argument has moved on from lack of sources to relevance to the LEAD of this article. Instead of making half of the lead about another place entirely just a short reference to the disputed claim and a link to the other article is sufficient. The references to the rainfall belong on the other page not this one. The world records are sourced to different places and it is not our job to judge which is better - just point out it exists and move on. Have you actually read WP:BRD? It details the proper way of handling these disputes between editors and it explicitly says discuss on the talk page rather than repeatedly adding the contentious edits back. noq (talk) 10:26, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Your words look really ridicolous. Half of the lead ???? I added just ONE LINE,not half of the lead. The references ARE NEEDED ,because other users have complained about the lack of sources. Do you know the BASICS of Wikipedia ? It seems you don't. I will try to repeat it again one more time, last time:

1-Lloro' Wikipage states it is the rainest place in the world. No mention about the dispute with Mawsynram 2-Mawsynram Wikipage states it is the rainest place in the world. No mention about the dispute with Lloro' before i mentioned it.

3-Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and both Lloro' and Mawsynram articles belong to it, nevertheless they are giving clearly CONFLICTING INFORMATION. A clarification was NEEDED, that's why I stepped in.

4-I added the clarification of the dispute of the two places in the Mawsynram page, it was immediately removed because lack of source

5- I added a source, it was removed because the source was not enough (maybe because it is in Spanish), so I added source in English

6-You removed both sources , so leaving the clarification about the Lloro'/Mawsynram unsourced again. 7-If it is unsourced, it would have been removed again 8-If it was removed again, the wikipages Lloro' and Mawsynram would have given conflicting information again.

9-Tell me than what I did wrong and why you have to say I am disrupting the page, when I am just improving that. You are the one who needed to open a discussion in the Talk Page BEFORE artibrately removing two sources.

10-Now I changed and shortened the sentence and I hope it' ok for you " It's reportedly the wettest place on Earth, with an annual rainfall of 11,872 millimetres (467.4 in),but that claim is disputed by Lloro' in Colombia which station had an average yearly rainfall of 12717mm between 1952 and 1989.[1] [2]."

This is not half of the lead, it's a NEEDED clarification in order to avoid a conflicting information with another WIKIPEDIA page. What is wrong with that ? Tell me. As you can say I removed a climatic table with data of Cherrapunji. Mawsynram has only a pluviometer, not a thermometer. I think I have far improved the page, not disrupted it. Any other issue will be discussed in the Talk page as requested. MaXiMiLiAnO 13:58, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Disambiguation pages

I notice you've removed all the Michael Lynch page that I suggested on the Lynch disambiguation page, but left the other red linked Michael Lynch (Olympian) up. Why's that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeMelmoth (talk • contribs) 22:17, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

The simple answer is I didn't notice. Looking at it more closely, it appears that the cyclist is referred to in several other articles so this allows it to be an exception to the general rule that DAB page entries must point to an existing page. noq (talk) 23:50, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Sidharth Malhotra

HI Noq, I just saw that you rejected the edit on Sidharth Malhotra. IP was just adding his mother's name to personal life. It's sourced in the article that he was born to Rimma Malhotra. Anyway, I will add the name of his mother in personal life so that it sounds better. I hope it's ok. Tolly4bolly 18:26, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Shree ASC

Hello Noq

I saw your notice on User talk:Shree ASC and wanted to let you know: We have precedent for personal usernames that disclose an association with a company. See User talk:Mark at Alcoa for example, where some admins and a bureaucrat agreed that this was acceptable, and not a violation of Wikipedia:Username policy because the account clearly belongs to one person, not to an organization or role.

Shree ASC (talk · contribs) appears to be a similar case, although he doesn't behave as a COI editor should (by contrast, Mark at Alcoa is open about his COI and he strictly complies with our guidelines). Anyway, he's apparently a mechanical engineer at ASC Process Systems in the UK, according to http://www.aschome.com/index.php/en/about (click on the "Our People" tab and you'll find Shree under the Mechanical Engineering section). ~Amatulić (talk) 00:14, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Bowling for Soup

I noticed you were one of the recent contributers to the Bowling for Soup wiki page. I would like to invite you to a discussion I have started on the talk page. I'm interested in adding some content, but am still reletively new to editing the wiki, and would like some help. Would you care to lend a hand? -Poodle of Doom (talk) 03:31, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Brooke Weston

I haven't really appreciated the tone that you spoke to me in. There are many videos on YouTube showing the pranks that take place at the end of the academic year. The school issues letters to students warning of bad behaviour at the end of the year additionally. There is a lot of information on the Brooke Weston page that is the result of 'original research'. What can you suggest for this information to be included? What is a reliable source?

Youtube links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yzPlHorGKU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr8aTbCIioI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNh7Ya0aCYk

Youtube is not generally regarded as a WP:reliable source. Click the blue link for what that consists of. And just because other stuff that should not be in the article currently exists there it is no reason to add to that. noq (talk) 17:10, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Still don't see why it can't be included. I'm not claiming something petty - the school renowned locally as being incredibly strict, yet also locally recognised that the last day of school provides an opportunity for the pupils to play some comeback. You're not exactly going to find a news report on it, but it's still a significant part of the school. Also, would that mean I'm free to go and delete anything without reference? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brefardan (talk • contribs) 00:11, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

See WP:verifiability. If it can't be verified - and the stuff you are trying to add you admit yourself cannot - then it does not belong. If it looks like it can be verified, then either add a {{cn}} tag or add a reference. noq (talk) 08:01, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Trip Tern

Hi, I saw that you reverted Trip Tern's link from Tel Aviv's page citing " not reliable source". Trip Tern is a travel startup, It has released the site in dec and have been covered by major tech blogs http://mashable.com/2013/01/10/triptern/ It aggregates data from sources such as wikitravel, dbbase etc for each Place and city and help users plan their travel using the automated algorithms.

Which sounds like an unreliable source to me - aggregating data from unreliable sources such as wikitravel makes it hard to consider it reliable. noq (talk) 18:50, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Not a Berman Sock

I just updated a couple of links to Berman's site. He removed a couple of pages where he tells the story about the murder he committed and got away with an insanity plea. He re-posted the pages where he brags about his exploits, but that was enough to make the links invalid. I used a name similar to one of his socks just to annoy him. Check the links you replaced, they lead to missing pages. Can you revert your change? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by RodrigoalvesnetII (talk • contribs) 02:57, 20 April 2013 (UTC) already

I had already seen that the original links do not work. The pages you replaced them with do not seem to back up the assertion in the talk page and you should not refactor other peoples comments on the talk page to misrepresent what was originally said. And your expressed desire to annoy Berman indicates that you should not be editing the article at all. noq (talk) 09:29, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Fortuna speedy deletion reason

Why is it being deleted , please read it . OliwierB (talk) 12:30, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion

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Your misuse of Twinkle

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Evans1982's Miami Heat edit

• For the record, I didn't mean to vandalize the Miami Heat article. I saw the infobox had been removed from the article and simply re-added it using an earlier version of the article. I didn't realize it had vandal words in it. Look in the article's revision history and see how there was a problem with the infobox template right before my edit. I still apologize though. -- Evans1982 (talk) 01:10, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, no problem. I just restored everything to an earlier version before the vandals hit. noq (talk) 07:56, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Category: Human rights abuses in Canada and Dionne quintuplets

I tried providing a source, but the best one I found (a page on HubPages) triggered the spam filter. I can't seem to find a way around that, even if I shorten the URL. User:Davidfreesefan23 (talk) 07:18, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Richie McCaw

Hello! You reverted my edit and marked it as an unsourced one. But if you follow the reference link, you will see, that McCaw's weight is actually 108 kg. Thank you. Киберрыба (talk) 14:10, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

sorry about that - I have reverted myself. noq (talk) 21:55, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Deletion tagging

are you happy now, you behave like a vandal! HSRtrack (talk) 12:14, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

putting a prod notice on a pointless page is not vandalism - what possible WP:notability can a random colour have. noq (talk) 12:24, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Falls Church disambiguation

The duplication of the disambiguation pages is strange, and I have not yet figured out what has happened. Both of the disambiguation pages show in their history that I created them on 19 May GMT / 18 May EDT. I agree that there should not be two disambiguation pages for the same name. Duplicate paragraphs on talk pages are the result of slow response, but a disambiguation page is a main page in mainspace, and duplicates should not happen. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:53, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

For some reason, one of the disambiguation links had two spaces and one had one space. The speedy deletion of the one with one space red-linked the disambiguation link from the main article, but I fixed that. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:00, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Liaquat Ali Khan- Muslim Jats

Isnt Liaquat Ali Khan a Muley Jat of the Marhal Clan?

• I know he is a Nawab of Karnal but he still is Muslim Jat

Sorry I just want to clarify! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nawabmalhi (talk • contribs) 17:11, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

There are no sources provided saying he is a Jat of any description. His article does not mention it. Without a WP:reliable source he does not belong in the list. noq (talk) 21:52, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Johnny Sexton

When you say my changes were not needed, what do you mean? Atlas-maker (talk) 21:12, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

That adding "Johnny" in the middle of his name in the lead is not needed - see WP:BIRTHNAME. There is also no indication that Johnny is a commonly used name to refer to him - I've not personally seen it used anywhere, just the full name. noq (talk) 08:55, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

there is plenty of indication that his common name is different to his birth name. I've added multiple citations. Atlas-maker (talk) 11:52, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

It still does not belong in the lead. The article name uses Jonathan, the MOS entry above even shows an example of Bill Clinton, where Bill is not mentioned in the lead but William is used instead. So it does not belong there as it is WP:UNDUE weight. noq (talk) 12:00, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Have a look at Jamie Heaslip or Bill Clinton. That's exactly what is done on those articles! What are you talking about? Atlas-maker (talk) 12:04, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

I had not seen that the Bill Clinton article is now in conflict with the example given in the Manual of style - the fact remains that the manual of style should be the guideline - not the current version of other articles. Adding common diminutives of names into the lead is just pointless - I know someone called Jonathan can also be called John, Jon, Johnny, Jonny - it does not need to be stated in every article. Similarly with Stephen and Steve, James and Jim, Jamie - it just not necessary to do. noq (talk) 12:09, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

There is an obvious conflict between WP:Common and WP:Birthname which you seem to be ignoring. Jamie Heaslip and Johnny Sexton are the common names. There is nothing in the section you quoted which forbids the construct I used. It is widely used right across the paedia especially in public figures. The lack of any mention of his commonly used name anywhere in the lede would actually give undue weight to the name Jonathan, which is not very often used at least in speech. I'm going to copy and continue this discussion on the article talk page where it will have a broader input. Finished here for now. Atlas-maker (talk) 12:23, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

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Updating Links to Citations

Hi Noq,

My name is Andrew and I'm the owner of what used to be MyjestikBlog.com. It is now Myjestik.com, but when I tried updating links on the various wikis that mentioned the site, they were edited with a citation needed tag. Is there any reason to this? Thanks BornDrew (talk) 23:38, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Because your blog is not a WP:reliable source and your opinions on the various artists concerned do not belong in an encyclopaedia and do not back up the claim made in the article. See also WP:SPAM. noq (talk) 07:42, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't know why the initial person put it in there, I just wanted to update. It does reference The Source and has scans of the magazine article in the post that reference each articles individual rank, so they aren't my opinions. I critique the ranking, but the ranks themselves. If that's not enough to keep them there, then that's fine.BornDrew (talk) 18:20, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Besuds

What are you doing man?See List of medieval Mongolian tribes and clans — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ancientsteppe (talk • contribs) 12:19, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Where there is no mention of them either. It is totally unsourced - it merely states it existed without any context or confirmation at all. noq (talk) 12:21, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Besud=Besut.See List of medieval Mongolian tribes and clans Ancientsteppe (talk) 13:17, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

And as I said on the edit summary when I converted it to a redirect - your article says nothing that is not on the List page - It has no WP:reliable sources and no indication that it is notable enough to qualify for a stand alone article. Unless you can provide sources and something other than a claim to existence then it serves no purpose. noq (talk) 13:19, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Did you read historian books?It's just stub article!Get lost! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ancientsteppe (talk • contribs) 13:25, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Please read the articles linked to in the welcome message on your page. This is not a stub article as it does not meet the minimum requirements for a stub. There is no WP:reliable source, no indication that there is anything WP:notable about it. noq (talk) 13:29, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Are you drunk? Ancientsteppe (talk) 13:33, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Not at all. Please read the policies and WP:assume good faith - being confrontational when someone else disagrees with you does not help improve Wikipedia - I have repeatedly explained why I have made the changes I did but you have just ignored that and not addressed the issues raised. It has gone to AFD now and community consensus will decide what will happen to it. By the way, do not remove the AFD notice as it will just be replaced - if not by me by automated bots - removing it will not stop the AFD process anyway but will make it harder for someone who comes across the article to comment. noq (talk) 13:36, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't have time to improve this article for now, wait, other members will improve this article.See List of medieval Mongolian tribes and clans!!!!!Besud=Besut. Ancientsteppe (talk) 13:58, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Angelfish (software)

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Creative school of san pedro

Another creator removing your PROD on Creative school of san pedro, I resubmitted via AFD for the same proposals you stated. PRODS are becoming useless these days. Tyros1972 Talk 11:29, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Corrections on Vidyut Jammwal

Hi Noq,

Please note that I am the official publicist to actor Vidyut Jammwal (that is how his name is correctly spelled).

All the information that I have changed are all basis authentic and verified details I know as an outcome of the fact that I am his official representative.

Please could you have the below mentioned changed corrected : - Name - Vidyut Jammwal - Date of Birth - Dec 10, 1980 - Place of birth - Kanpur, UP

Please let me know if you need anything else

Thanks Best Regards

Divya Tejuja Head, Eye D Communications (CELEBRITY AND FILM PR AGENCY) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Divyatejuja (talk • contribs) 10:57, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

As I stated on your talk page, you will need to provide a WP:reliable source that says that - your asserting it here is not sufficient. As references in the article all seem to disagree with you on how his name is spelt this might be difficult. noq (talk) 11:01, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Noq,

Here are the news articles confirming the correct spelling of his name. Please note that he has changed it from what it was earlier (Jamwal to Jammwal)- Mid Day - http://www.mid-day.com/entertainment/2013/jun/040513-vidyut-jammwal-gets-mobbed-in-nasik-by-college-students.htm Twitch - http://twitchfilm.com/2013/05/watch-vidyut-jammwal-kick-ass-in-commando---a-one-man-army-clips.html Times Of India - http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-06-07/news-interviews/39814171_1_vidyut-jammwal-power-action-flick-fantastic-fest Times of India - http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-06-03/news-interviews/39714073_1_vidyut-jammwal-power-action-flick-commando

Here's the link to the opening credits of his launch film "Force" where his name is spelled correctly. Please check the video at 2.27 minutes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfnhhPvelqE

His official Twitter account is @VidyutJammwal confirming the correct name spelling

For the date of birth, attaching the links below that confirm the date of birth as Dec 10, 1980

http://short-biography.com/actor/vidyut-jamwal.htm

Please let me know what additional details you need

Thanks Best Regards

Divya — Preceding unsigned comment added by Divyatejuja (talk • contribs) 13:48, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

about Master PDF Editor

What are the criteria for notability programs ? In Ubuntu Software Center Master PDF Editor has been present in this top 10 for past 11 months. In the google search "master pdf editor" About 761,000 results

Also, this the famous programs? http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/XEP http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Htm2pdf

You add a new program only for money? How much it costs? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vincom it (talk • contribs) 20:07, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

You tried to create the article at Articles for creation but were declined due to lack of notability but still created the article anyway. You need to show significant coverage in independent WP:reliable sources - not just directory entries or brief mentions. Cost is not an issue, and raw google hit counts are misleading - showing 761k hits but runs out at around 200-300 hits when they omit "similar" pages. Also please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS - just because other articles that should not be there exist does not mean we should increase the number of articles that should not exist. noq (talk) 00:05, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Please give an example of reliable sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vincom it (talk • contribs) 08:12, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Read WP:reliable sources as linked above. noq (talk) 08:30, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

about Master PDF Editor

About WP:reliable sources

Statistics from the ubuntu software center, for August 2012 and May 2013: http://developer.ubuntu.com/2012/09/top-10-ubuntu-app-downloads-for-august-2012/ http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/06/top-10-ubuntu-app-downloads-for-may/ You'll find for other months yourself.

These are links from popular resources. You are able to find more if you want http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/best-free-software-linux.htm?page=0,1 http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Master_PDF_Editor https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/masterpdfeditor/ http://www.stahuj.centrum.cz/podnikani_a_domacnost/kancelarske_aplikace/ostatni/master-pdf-editor/ http://linuxaria.com/pills/master-pdf-editor-a-complete-tool-to-create-and-modify-pdf-files-with-linux?lang=en http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2013/03/master-pdf-editor-complete-solution-for.html http://iloveubuntu.net/master-pdf-editor-1870-landed-ubuntu-software-center-new-features http://www.lffl.org/2013/04/master-pdf-editor-1820-approda-nei.html http://download.nf.pl/Download/5660/Master-PDF-Editor/PDF-XPS-edytor-tekstu-dokumenty/ ubuntuforums.org forum.ubuntu.ir forum.ubuntuusers.de forums.opensuse.org forum.ubuntu.ro forums.bodhilinux.com forum.ubuntu.ru forum.ubuntu-it.org forums.linuxmint.com forum.ubuntu.cz

About google search you wrote: >>raw google hit counts are misleading - showing 761k hits but runs out at around 200-300 hits when they omit "similar" pages.

You either don't understand or trying to confuse. Try make search by other popular products like "foxit PDF editor" or "adobe PDF editor"

I'd like to see your answer on how do you include products intro "PDF Software"

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Software602 http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Solid_PDF_Creator http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Xara_Photo_%26_Graphic_Designer http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Htm2pdf http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Qiqqa http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Apitron_PDF_Rasterizer http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/XEP http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Prince_XML

I can name minimum 100 such programs, but that doesn't mean they all should be here. Once again, how did you include there's programs here? It seems. you did it for money. These are not popular commercial-only applications. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vincom it (talk • contribs) 08:05, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Gloucester Rugby

Thank you for clarifying Gloucester's captain. I could not see Jim Hamilton being removed from the infobox, and I could find no reference to a new captain on the official Gloucester web site. Hamish59 (talk) 07:40, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Please, don't delete Dorm Patrol

Good day! Can I do something fot the article???? I've just created it and now it's nominated for deletion =((((--ВікіПЕДист (talk) 18:19, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

You need to show it meets the notability guidelines and add independent WP:reliable sources. There is currently nothing in the article to show it should be retained. noq (talk) 18:20, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

But as for the album, music videos and single, recorded with frontman of Millencolin??? Can it be significant? --ВікіПЕДист (talk) 18:29, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Glasgow

Sorry that I forgot to explain the removal of content! To clarify, I moved the Abbotsinch weatherbox to "Template:Glasgow Weathbox" to protect it from vandalism. I updated the box with the latest Met Office figures only several days ago, and its already been vandalized, for example, changing average July high from 19.2 to 21.2. I've uncovered several occurrences of these kinds of edits in the last while and have been working to combat them. --Jacobfrid (talk) 00:06, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

USD

I would have appreciated it if you moved my content to a different part of the page, rather than simply reverting the changes that I made every single time. The addition that I made would be helpful if people were looking at the page USD but wanted to know more about the actual physical currency itself. Spirit469 (talk) 00:45, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Notability

I have been a regular contributor since 2006 to the On this day pages on Wikipedia. I have added hundreds of names to the daily lists, all of them with pages on Wikipedia, never a red link, and as far as I can remember this is the first time that some of my edits are removed. About Your edit for the July 24 page, the 3 names added have articles on the encyclopedia. If, as You say, these persons have not a sufficient notability to be added to the daily list, then their pages should be removed from the enclopedia. Otherwise I can't understand the logic. Today I added names to the page of July 25. This will be my final contribution to Wikipedia.--Igoulet (talk) 00:00, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Jack (song)

Hi Noq!

I have noticed you have reverted my edit for the article Jack (song). While I see your point in why, the Iced Earth song "Jack" has no article itself and was not released as a single. The Breach song, however, is expected to go viral and hit #7 on the Official Chart Update. So please stop reverting the page since I wouldn't consider it "hijacking". I invite you to help me create the article, though.

Thank you! 68.44.51.49 (talk) 22:10, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

sorry, you have given no WP:reliable sources, nothing but a one line claim of existence - not notability. Why should this "expected to become viral" - lots of WP:weasel words there - usurp an existing redirect? noq (talk) 23:37, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Here's that source: [9]. 68.44.51.49 (talk) 23:59, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

so just some idle speculation then. Please read WP:NSONG for actual notability guidelines. noq (talk) 06:51, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Nuclear warfare

Dear Noq, I'm not clear how my first edit is spammy. It links to a new page (nuclear ethics) that is relevant to the sentence on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and it references several works beyond my own. I'm also not clear on how the mere reference to my own work is spammy. If it has been published in reputable journals, what is the problem?

Thomasedoyle2 (talk) 18:33, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Comment: Per my edit summary, while I agree that adding content cited to oneself and only to oneself (it now has another, independent reference) looks bad, I see no problem with the content itself, and think it should stay. However, Thomasedoyle2 should be notified of our conflict of interest guidelines, specifically as they relate to self promotion and citing ones own work, as well as of the fact that when ones edits are reverted, its best to allow time for discussion before undoing the revert. Mysterious Whisper 19:52, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Dynasty (Two Steps from Hell album)

"Hi, I have just reverted your edit to this article. The article has been the subject of a WP:articles for deletion debate here which resulted in it being redirected to the bands article as the album does not meet the notability guidelines." noq (talk) 17:28, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Please explain why you think this album does not meet the notability guidelines. All of Two Steps From Hell's demonstration albums are legitimate albums and I thought my references for this album were clear enough. pizzaboy314 (talk)

The reason is explained on the message I left at your talk page - it was deleted at AFD, your assertion that all their demos are notable is not justified - legitimate is not the same as notable - how do you think it meets the NOTABILITY criteria rather than the "legitimate" criteria that is meaningless here. noq (talk) 23:34, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

To be honest, calling that section of the TSFH article "demonstration albums" is misleading. They are not demos. They are simply extensive albums that are released to studios instead of the general public. I don't understand why you are singling out Dynasty among about 20 other non-public albums...? pizzaboy314 (talk)

An album for release to studios - isn't that a demo album? How does it meet WP:NALBUM? As for other similar ones, I just have not seen them. noq (talk) 17:05, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

A demo album is defined as a temporary recording to demonstrate abilities or musical ideas, with the intention of recording a finished version or product later based on that demo. Therefore, TSFH's non-public albums are not demos, since they are finished/complete products. I'll admit trying to find a logical justification in the notability "requirements" for production-only orchestras like TSFH and others is difficult, but it is a unique situation. I have all these albums myself and know the tracklists. While lack of notability does not justify creating such an album page, it definitely doesn't justify deleting it, either. Thoughts? pizzaboy314 (talk)

If the creation cannot be justified, then its continued existence cannot be justified. With a redirect it sends people to the TSFH page. And the link above to demo album says "A demo version or demo of a song (shortened from the word "demonstration") is one recorded for reference rather than for release." - that seems to match this perfectly. noq (talk) 09:40, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

False. Dynasty and all of TSFH's non-public discography are recorded for release, not reference. You can visit their webpage to see their full discography of albums, both public and not.

Out of curiousity, how much do you know about production music in general? It seems you don't quite understand how production music companies work. A perfect example would be Position Music, whose site you should definitely check out. Basically, the production music company records albums themself (like TSFH) or hires an artist or composer to record an album for their production music library. Then (in the case of Position Music) a client company who is interested in purchasing a license for an album or song has a special client login for purchasing said material. Like the top of this[10] page. In TSFH's case, all their music is released under the label Extreme Music, as you can see here[11]. pizzaboy314 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:46, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

You have still not said how it meets WP:NALBUM. "An album requires its own notability, and that notability is not inherited and requires independent evidence. That an album is an officially released recording by a notable musician or ensemble is not by itself reason for a standalone article. Conversely, an album does not need to be by a notable artist or ensemble to merit a standalone article if it meets the general notability guideline. Album articles with little more than a track listing may be more appropriately merged into the artist's main article or discography article, space permitting." - quoted in its entirety. The album has already been discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dynasty (Two Steps From Hell album) and found wanting. How production companies work is irrelevant to the notability of this or any other album. noq (talk) 15:43, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

So you deleted it because it needs more than a description and a tracklist to be "noteable"? (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:59, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

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Enrique Arce

I have provided three sites to check Enrique Arce curriculum. If that's not what you want, tell me what you want.--EeuHP (talk) 18:11, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a job site so articles should not be written as a resume. The section in question is just that. You should not link to dates unless there is a particular reason that this specific article should link to that specific date.

I do not understand your reasoning. I'm talking about the movies and series that has worked Enrique Arce and I have given him three sources certifying that has worked on these films, series and plays. What do you want from him?--EeuHP (talk) 15:30, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Stephen Jepson

Hi Noq - thanks for the note on Stephen Jepson. Not sure what you mean about YouTube not proving anything. Jepson himself has made videos about his new occupation. I see no reason to doubt their veracity or relevance: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x118d9k_never-leave-the-playground-interview-with-stephen-jepson-june-2013_lifestyle verjus75 (talk) 23:58, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

OpenProject

Hi Noq you notified me of a prod to OpenProject, but if you look at my contribution it was as a redirect. You should notify User talk:Openproject-foundation or perhaps user talk:37.81.32.36 as these were editors who want an article at that name. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 13:24, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Thats twinkle for you. I have added the notification to User talk:Nicmarwin which is where User talk:Openproject-foundation redirects to. The IP addresses appear to be dynamic so not worth adding notifications to. noq (talk) 14:26, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Noq, Thanks for your remark. I am quite new to wikipedia so I am happy about any feedback. I take your concern about the notability of the article OpenProject quite serious. During the next week me and some other member of the OpenProject Foundation will work on the article in order to proove the notability of this topic. Nicmarwin (talk) 19:58, 4 August 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicmarwin (talk

Please be careful of the WP:conflict of interest guidelines when you do this. noq (talk) 19:06, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

What do you mean by that? Sorry to ask but can you explain that to me? Thanks :-) By the way. How do I get rid of this username. How can I change it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicmarwin (talk • contribs) 19:11, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

If you read the linked article it will explain it. Basically it warns about some of the pitfalls in editing articles about subjects you are involved in. If you sign in with the Nicmarwin name instead of the openproject-foundation name - not sure why it was left behind when it was moved by User:Xeno - if there is a problem you are best asking at User talk:Xeno about that. noq (talk) 19:37, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

OK, got it. Thanks for the notice. I will give my best. In the meantime I appreciate your advice and feedback. This is very helpful.Nicmarwin (talk) 14:15, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Noq, I removed the release template from the article. I tried to do it like Drupal an Joomla. Is this correct now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicmarwin (talk • contribs) 13:21, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

For the article to remain, you will need to find some independent WP:reliable sources that cover OpenProject in substantial detail - not just mentions of it. At the moment, the sources you have are not independent. If you can't find those then the article will end up being deleted. Concentrate on finding them first. noq (talk) 13:31, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

I've added a welcome notice to your talk page which gives a lot of useful links to get you started in Wikipedia. noq (talk) 13:34, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

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List of video telecommunication services and product brands

ClickMeeting is more notable brand than http://wowwe.com/ (now parked domain), which was on the list (I've removed it now). As for notability please see http://web-conferencing-services.toptenreviews.com/clickmeeting-review.html - CM has been awarded Top Ten Reviews bronze award. Also please see the archived discussion http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:List_of_video_telecommunication_services_and_product_brands/Archive_1#Cleanup in which Harryzilber stated that this list is made for each and every web conferencing provider. Having this in mind, please don't revert my edition again. Sylwia wysocka (talk) 10:49, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Durga Shakti Nagpal

I think the AfD is not a controversial one. A NAC can work. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^{Talk Email} 15:17, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

There is a lot of activity mostly by inexperienced wiki editors with a lot of invalid arguments in there so I think it needs an admin to treat it properly. noq (talk) 17:38, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Nationalities for FC Petrolul Ploiești

Hi! I'm really confused, UEFA Europa League and Soccerway show the flags of Netherlands and Portugal. Is there a rule of which flag should be displayed when they person has tow nationalities?8Dodo8 (talk · contribs) 12:18, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Can you answer please? :/ 8Dodo8 (talk · contribs) 14:44, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Steve Devlin

Hi, I created the disambiguation page for two reasons;

1. it would appear Millionaire Devlin is notable. When I was writing the Robert Brydges article, one of the articles mentioned him and a very quick check indicates two more articles talking specifically about him from the same website. I consider that enough.
2. a Wikipedia search indicates the existence of other Steve Devlins - which may well also fall foul of WP:1EVENT, but as they are notable for something a redirect to one of them would be inappropriate.--Launchballer 13:17, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Check Talk:Steve Devlin - the millionaire article has already been been deleted as not notable. The other uses do not seem notable to me so the creation of this dab page is pointless. noq (talk) 13:23, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

World's Strongest Man

Hi, I see that you recently undid an update of mine for the World's Strongest Man page and you left a message claiming that I did not cite a reference. I clearly cited a reference for the updates that I made, not sure why you would not have noticed that when they where clearly listed on the page???? You might want to try and double check next time before you accuse someone of not using references. Strongmantom (talk) 16:18, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Oops. Sorry about that. noq (talk) 16:22, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

James Martin

Ah... what I did was to remove the mass of external links in the article body, not any references. Those were removed along with the citation tags by a later editor. By WP:EL I think those removals were correct. Pinkbeast (talk) 23:18, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Accounting software list

I think my edit should stay, because all the software listed is available in the US and for dollar accounts and only about 5-6 (a few more if you count Money and Quicken (which no longer exist), but still <10) of them are available here in the UK for £ sterling accounts, for example. Thus this list of dozens of packages is misleading and wrong for most of the rest of the world. It is really not good enough to have to follow the links to every single package to find out which work. The fact that it is US-centric should at least be up-front.

I see that a suggestion of a column for countries was made and apparently rejected / ignored several years ago.

Rachel Pearce (talk) 12:49, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

There is software in the list that is not US specific, and just adding that the list is US specific would only preclude the addition of non-US software. noq (talk) 18:03, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

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The use of ç and ə always says Azerbaijani to me. Turkish looks similar, with the ı letter and the ç, but the ə gives it away. I've tagged it A7 but it's borderline G11 too. Peridon (talk) 10:12, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Alnwick RFC

2013 1st team squad, reference 9 clearly states a team list and point scores, how on earth can you claim that is not relevant and just a random report it is 100~% specific to that section of wiki page (2013 1st team squad), reference 8 is a Northumberland match report stating player names (some of them being Alnwick players) therefore giving credibility to the denotations at the bottom of the squad list (* denotes players who have represented Northumberland senior county). So again not a random report!!! every game I will continue to ad more references to that section. You need to take more time to check out the references!!!!!!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by RugbyNE66 (talk • contribs) 07:35, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Individual match reports are not what the table shows. Picking random games and citing them does not show what you claim it does. I have responded on the articles talk page which is the appropriate place to discuss this. And WP:BRD states that is where you should make your argument for inclusion rather than continually adding it back without obtaining consensus for its inclusion. noq (talk) 07:48, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

That table shows people who have represented the 1st team and how many points they have scored. Reference 9 lists the team for one particular match this season and who scored points. What more do you want from a reference about a squad list stating points scored. Granted these roundups from the rugby round up website have not been produced for every match this season but when ever they are produced I will use them as a reference it is by no means random it is 100% specific to that section of the wiki page. There are 26 league games in a season, if a the round up website produced a team list and points scorer for every alnwick match I would use all 26 of them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RugbyNE66 (talk • contribs) 11:28, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

As I have repeatedly said and explained on the article talk page - random match reports do not reference that table. And you have failed to address the issue of why the table should exist at all in the article. Wikipedia is not the clubs own website and you are not allowed to treat it as the clubs website. There is no one in that least that is in any way notable, the table is WP:original research/WP:synth, and it is too much insignificant information. noq (talk) 11:33, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Michael Joseph Baum listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Wikipedia:Michael Joseph Baum. Since you had some involvement with the Wikipedia:Michael Joseph Baum redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). noq (talk) 23:39, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Video Conferencing Vendors List Changes

In May'13 you've reverted the following [[12]] regarding TrueConf Server being added to Server Software section and Conferendo to Free Instant Messaging section. Can you please explain this, thanks. --Levyakupov (talk) 13:15, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Removal of examples from Java Database Connectivity since you say it is a HOWTO WP:NOTHOWTO

They are examples. Not a HOWTO. But if you think you are providing value removing this information from Wikipedia, go ahead and also remove similar sections from programming languages like Java (programming language), Go (programming language) and Ruby (programming language)

Will you be coherent? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.103.151.6 (talk) 15:15, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi Is this refrence enough to reverse http://yourstory.in/2013/10/salarpuria-bijay-agarwal/ In India many known or famous personalities are still not listed because of references or suitable authenticated sources online but it doesn't mean that are not notable person .. Think about it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bishwa 777 (talk • contribs) 16:00, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Please see WP:WTAF. Without requiring people to be notable in Wikipedia terms we just end up with huge lists of peoples names. And having read the article in thisweekbangalore - it reads like his own PR people wrote that. noq (talk) 18:36, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

You might be right, but a person from Kishanganj (a remote village in Bihar) has reached to this height .. now a biggest real estate player, also in to aerospace and education. http://www.sattvagroup.in/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bishwa 777 (talk • contribs) 06:23, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Tagging of EP (BrightSide EP)

I recently removed a speedy delete tag that you had placed on EP (BrightSide EP). I do not think that EP (BrightSide EP) fits any of the speedy deletion criteria  because "received positive reviews from various Greek e-magazines and internet radio stations" is a claim of significance. I request that you consider not re-tagging EP (BrightSide EP) for speedy deletion without discussing the matter on the appropriate talk page. I have therefore declined the speedy deletion. DES ^(talk) 23:02, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Deleting BrightSide (band)

I have provided several links from independent Greek sites that are referring to the band and reviewing its EP. Is this not enough? I have also done that for EP (BrightSide EP) which is the EP of the band. What seems to be the problem? I think my links cover the first criterion for musicians and ensembles WP:BAND. Am I wrong? IndiePostPunk (talk) 19:31, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Excuse me.

03:23, 12 November 2013‎ Noq (talk | contribs)‎ . . (78,010 bytes) (-155)‎ . . (Reverted 1 edit by Manzzzz (talk): Can't use Amwys own website to support that claim. (TW)) (undo | thank)

Why can't use Amwys own website to support that claim?Manzzzz^(talk) 13:50, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Because companies make exaggerated claims about their own products noq (talk) 13:53, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

How do you know? It may be real. This claim show in advertising of Amway in televisions in Thailand. Manzzzz^(talk) 14:23, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

How do you know that the claims are accurate? You can't take Amways word for it - we need some independent verification of the claim. noq (talk) 14:39, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Noq, could you please check out the comments section of the Carissa F. Etienne, in response to your edits, and, if you agree, remove the disclaimers?

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:Carissa_F._Etienne — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.232.3.98 (talk) 18:27, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Noq, the actions taken to fix the page are described in the TALK section of Carissa F. Etienne's page. Could you kindly remove the disclaimers? Thanks Shayer 21:08, 17 November 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shayer (talk • contribs)

You deleted many of the names of most of the previous members of Ten Tenors as "unsourced"

Here are just some sources. There are many:

http://home.kpn.nl/f2hhansbelde/ttt/ttthistory.html Shows most of these people as memebers of the Ten Tenors at one time or another

Gordon Harris http://www.frasercoastchronicle.com.au/news/children-flock-eisteddfod-fraser-coast/923845/

Shannon Brown http://www.creativityaustralia.org.au/what-we-do/our-team/shannon-brown/

Adam Lopez http://www.organisersinternational.com.au/artist/adam-lopez/

Bernard Wheaton http://www.mainlyopera.com/title.html?catno=232566%20%282cd%29 http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/19813103?q&versionId=23304110

Kent Maddock http://www.allmusic.com/album/untied-mw0001992714/credits

Greg Moore http://www.undercover.fm/news/10802-gregory-moore-goes-from-ten-tenors-to-one-tenor

Rosario La Spina http://www.mainlyopera.com/title.html?catno=232566%20%282cd%29

Roger Davy http://www.musictheatreaustralia.com.au/component/entertainers/roger_davy_australian_tenor/5020

Kim Kirkman http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/chorus-sings-out-for-new-members-former-ten-tenor-/1871539/

George Forgan-Smith http://www.mainlyopera.com/title.html?catno=232566%20%282cd%29

Matthew Bryan Hickey http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/the_ten_tenors

Bradley McCaw http://aussietheatre.com.au/features/bradley-mccaw-cabaret-star-on-the-rise

Dominic Smith http://www.broadwaysd.com/blog/?p=511

Boyd Owen http://www.broadwaysd.com/blog/?p=511

Steven Sowden http://www.broadwaysd.com/blog/?p=511

Tod Strike http://www.broadwaysd.com/blog/?p=511

Jeff Teale http://www.broadwaysd.com/blog/?p=511

Graham Foote http://www.broadwaysd.com/blog/?p=461

Luke Kennedy http://www.broadwaysd.com/blog/?p=461

Dion Molinas http://www.broadwaysd.com/blog/?p=461

Stewart Morris http://www.broadwaysd.com/blog/?p=461

Andrew Pryor http://www.westernadvocate.com.au/story/918562/heritage-park-show-by-ten-tenors-star/

Craig Atkinson http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/ten-tenors/3372966

Jason Turnbull http://amoredivinesempre.dynamicforum.net/t34-introduction

Adrian Phillips http://amoredivinesempre.dynamicforum.net/t34-introduction

Liam McLachlan http://amoredivinesempre.dynamicforum.net/t34-introduction

Craig Hendry http://amoredivinesempre.dynamicforum.net/t34-introduction

Jason Short http://amoredivinesempre.dynamicforum.net/t34-introduction

Drew Graham http://amoredivinesempre.dynamicforum.net/t34-introduction

Scott Fields http://profileengine.com/groups/profile/433434204/scotty-fields

Josh Pitermann http://www.kpbs.org/news/2009/nov/23/ten-tenors-heres-heroes/

Jordan S. Pollard http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/entertainment/arts/hills-are-alive-with-the-ten-tenors/story-e6frees3-1226243005417

Thomas David Birch https://www.facebook.com/thetentenors/info

Phil Konstantin (talk) 23:52, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

And you put them back without adding sources - people reading that page are unlikely to come here for references. Besides that, what is the encyclopaedic purpose of including this list of people that might have sung with them at some point. noq (talk) 09:48, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

The sources are above. If you feel they need to be added, help yourself. Why list previous members? Why list former Presidents or baseball team members, or who hosted the Academy Awards on any given year? Because it is factual information. If someone wants to know if Bob Jones has ever been a member of the Ten Tenors, they could look in this section. I didn't create this section, by the way. If you feel a list of previous members is inappropriate, then suggest it be eliminated. Phil Konstantin (talk) 21:59, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Book cited[edit]

Noq - the book cited is the major book on the topic. I have edited continually entries on the Dominatrix over some years, including all the major publications put out by Danielle Lindemann, Andrew Wilson et al. The new Nomis book had been known about amongst the Dominatrix scene for some time, and published in the largest Dominatrix magazine in the world some 6 months ago. It includes original source material, archives, all meticulously referenced. It is now going to reprint by Uni Oxford Press. It's on I believe every major university course list on the topic, including Birkbeck, Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard etc. You originally deleted as you claimed you couldn't find the book with ISBN. The ISBN is listed on Amazon, Nielsen, every book publisher in the world. There is another book by a Dominatrix and PhD psychologist named Ilsa Strix (psuedonym / Mistress name) about to come out, which was written 6 years ago as a PhD thesis, and is about to be published, and this will be the other major publication on the topic and on BDSM, and comes from a psychology basis. This will also be listed and picked up by every academic, and most academics are aware of this book about to come out also. I would suggest before you delete books claiming you can't find an ISBN, you might want to check a bit more thoroughly. And refer to Wikipedia guidelines on Notabiity, references etc.Scholarlyfemme (talk) 00:21, 9 January 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scholarlyfemme (talk • contribs)

hello mr noq you are giving wrong information

shame on you .every one knows Varanasi kingdom historically belongs to bhumihar brahmin kings.then how rajput and martaha kings come and rule in 18th century and make most of the buildings,shame on you.why you reverting my edits thankyou for your support — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhumihar brahmin (talk • contribs) 06:15, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

If you can provide WP:reliable sources - which if "everyone knows" should not be a problem then the edits would not be reverted. The version before your edits contained references - yours did not, and so the previous version is the preferred one. As it is, it is your claim without anything to verify them. noq (talk) 18:01, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Removing Steve Corcoran

Hello,

I noticed that you removed Steve Corcoran from the Bristol Rugby Template citing that he is not listed former player of Bristol Rugby. I wish to bring to your attention that there are several sources online that state he is a former player of Bristol rugby. Kindly visit Source 1, source 2 and Source 3 Aha... (talk) 07:13, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

That template is not for former players, but for current players. As he is not listed as a current player, he does not belong there. noq (talk) 18:03, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Well in. My bad I did not notice that. Sorry for the bother. Aha... (talk) 18:15, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

It would also only include first team players - I see no indication that he ever played for the first team. noq (talk) 18:19, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Removing academic book

Noq - You seem to remove material, not adding "talk" or rationale to talk page, in a unilateral manner.

1) You initially removed the book as you said you couldn't find any evidence of the ISBN. (The ISBN is highly searchable, on Google, Amazon Books, Nielsen, and any other forum you may wish to look at)

2) You then re-removed the book saying this was due to it being self-published. However virtually all BDSM books are self-published. Jay Wiseman's books (self-published under Greenery Press) - Lady Green / Janet Hardy (self-published with partner Jay Wiseman of Greenery Press) - Dr Gloria Brame's books are all self-published. (She has a PhD and is a qualified sexologist however) - Philip Miller & Molly Devon's book is self-published (under Mystic Rose Books) etc (I could list numerous titles). There are no academic journal articles citing these publications.

3) I've reinstated, and explained why the book is listed, its academic credentials and validity for inclusion. You've then deleted again, citing that an ISBN did not make it valid (I never said it did, and was merely responding to your earlier deletion which you said was because it lacked a searchable ISBN - in fact it didn't lack a searchable BDSM).

You've then removed it again, due to the book being self-published, and psuedonymous.

I've added a wider debate to the Talk Page, as due to the subject of BDSM, almost all publications are: a) Self-published, and in some cases also with a psuedonym or Mistress name, such as Lady Green (a psuedonym for Janet Hardy - which she used for 'The Compleat Spanker' and 'The Sexually Dominant Woman' and another title, from memory). b) Not cited in any academic publications, as there is not BDSM academic journal.

You can read the criteria I've proposed, and please feel free to contribute.

Amongst my own views for when I make contributions to Wikipedia pages, as I have over the years added all new major publications on the Dominatrix page for example, the criteria I've employed has been: - Professional regard for author amongst the BDSM community and / or academic community (In this case, tick - well-known Dominatrix, MA degree, going onto PhD, at one of the world's highest ranked universities, University College London - UCL, well-known in fetish community and to professional Dominatrices around the world) - Book citing its sources and meticulous referencing, if academic (Tick - meticulously referenced, with footnotes, by an academic) - Presence in major fetish BDSM publications (Tick - in DDI Magazine endorsed by its editor who notes it is unpaid endorsement and singles the book as the major book on the subject every printed in his lifetime, upcoming Skin Two, online magazines, forums, and every measure we have within the BDSM community for a book's impact and positive reviews)

I have no problem with any challenges, changes or ammendments, but you've been incorrect - removing for supposedly not finding the ISBN. Then when Removing for being self-published - when indeed virtually all the BDSM publications are self-published due to their content). Then you remove for doubting academic nature - when it is entirely academic, and by a university scholar, with numerous references. No BDSM books to my knowledge are academically reviewed in journals - there's no BDSM journal.

It it is inappropriate for you to delete entries in the manner you are, moving goalposts, and not contributing in "Talk" on the topic, nor allow Wikipedia contributor consensus.

Scholarlyfemme (talk) 01:22, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

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Seremaia Bai

Hello I was improving little bits on Seremaia Bai and, for the record, Castres Olympique are a top rugby union club from France. I put the flag on their to show which country its from.— Preceding unsigned comment added by NikeCage68 (talk • contribs)

I know Castre are a Top 14 team - just ended Clermonts unbeaten home run. It still does not need have the flag added and the reference should have the article title not some headline you made up yourself. BTW, please sign talk page entries using ~~~~ at the end of your comments. noq (talk) 15:41, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Transfers on club articles

As someone who has added and / or removed information to a "transfers" section of a Rugby Union article, can I draw your attention to this discussion: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rugby union#Transfers on club articles. Hamish59 (talk) 09:38, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Panagiotis Kone

Hello, I'm 79.106.109.170. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Panagiotis Kone because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, you can use the sandbox. — Preceding undated comment added 20:46, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your intervention in P. Kone. Just to infom you, 79.xxx has already breached 3rr, I've filled an wp:spi since he edits both logged and unlogged (Albxxxx) in order to avoide 3rr violation.Alexikoua (talk) 21:42, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Airds Hotel

Can I please get the source for this entry that you deleted back again so I can work on getting more information on there (in a sandbox) to make it suitable for Wikipedia (adding further content that is not available elsewhere on the web). Unless you feel that there is no place on Wikipedia for factual entries about a hotel business? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Websanity (talk • contribs) 13:12, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

You will need to ask an administrator for that - here's a link to the admin who deleted the page User talk:Anthony Bradbury. Before recreating it please read the wikipedia guidelines, especially those regarding notability, WP:conflict of interest and WP:reliable sources. noq (talk) 13:19, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Will do - thanks for your help, and the links re. notability etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Websanity (talk • contribs) 13:31, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

RIMT Campus

Hello, I hjave submitted article wikipedia.org/wiki/RIMT_campus and it was marked for speedy deletion by you as you said that already a page is there with same information. Kindly check that page, that old article has many obsolete information, let me create the new article and kindly, i humbly request you to revert the changes or deletions that you have made. Thanks a lot. Waiting for your reply dear Sir. Rimtlife (talk) 11:49, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Responded on article talk page. noq (talk) 11:58, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

It is not that I dont like the article. I think you have not read what I have written. The matter in the page is obsolete and needs updation. Neither you are letting me update it nor create a new page. What is the solution, kindly advise. Thanks Rimtlife (talk) 07:18, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

As explained on the articles talk page, creating a duplicate article is not the way to correct problems - they need fixing in the original article not a duplicate. Having said that, if what you are attempting to put in the original article is of the same style as the new page you created, then it will be removed as being purely promotional - Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a free web host and cannot be used for promotional purposes. If, as your username suggests, you are connected with the organisation then please be careful about WP:conflict of interest and raise your concerns about specific things that are incorrect or out of date here. Updates should be neutral in tone and not dripping in marketing speak. noq (talk) 08:30, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Resorts World Casino

As there are many casino pages on Wikipedia, I am contesting the speedy of Resorts World Casino in NYC. The page is under construction. If there is any reason to contest the page, please use the talk page, thanks. RWCasinoKid (talk) 10:01, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a reason to create an article. WP:notability and independent WP:reliable sources are required. Mere existence is not sufficient. noq (talk) 10:03, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Could you help me find sources on RW casino? It's been referenced in the news and it's been open for over 2 years now. RWCasinoKid (talk) 10:06, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Thousands of casinos exists - what makes this one worthy of an encyclopaedia entry? noq (talk) 10:08, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Well, what sources would make RW worthy of inclusion? RWCasinoKid (talk) 10:21, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Read the WP:notability guidelines. Specifically WP:ORG for the sort of thing. noq (talk) 10:33, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

:) Saurav Lamshal (talk) 14:43, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Subash Chandra Nembang

Thanks for your help ! :) Saurav Lamshal (talk) 14:57, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Powermeeting

Mfdfz (talk) 09:25, 15 July 2014 (UTC)hello, I add some references to the entries. Will that be OK for concerning the notability? Let me know what else should I provide to support it. Many Thanks!

Speedy deletion declined: Vicente Sederberg, LLC

Hello Noq. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Vicente Sederberg, LLC, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: I don't think there is significant coverage of the subject, but it does make an assertion of importance. AFD is more appropriate. Thank you. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 23:59, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

AfD

Hi. You may wish to get up to speed on the special cases for school articles before nominating them at AfD. See WP:OUTCOMES. Do bear in mind that many !votes come from editors with little experience and knowledge of guidelines, prcedents, policies, which may lead to a wrong consensus, but one which the closer has to accept. Such closures than often entrain additional bureaucracy to get them reverted. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:21, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

snakes and ladders : suitability for children section

Thank you for "removing" this section.

I added this information to the talk page.

Is there any way you can think of that adding this information/warning(!) would be appropriately added? It's really frustrating trying to play this game with your grandchildren!

DGerman (talk) 21:50, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

source for editing done in article sethi

i have made changes to the article and corrected the wrong things in it. I have refered to the following books. you can see them: 1)Isbn number:81-7770-005-7 Book name-" The spiritual heritage of Punjab" written by jaswant singh neki 2)History of the Sikhs, by J.D. Cunningham, Satvic Media, Amritsar, 2002, ISBN 81-87526-04-1 3)Style of the Lion: The Sikhs,by Jasprit & Teresa Singh, Akal Publications, Ann Arbor, MI, USA, 1998, ISBN 0-9660942-0-4 4)1. ↑ Jat History Dalip Singh Ahlawat/Parishisht-I, s.n. स-78 2. ↑ O.S.Tugania:Jat Samuday ke Pramukh Adhar Bindu,p.63,s.n. 2512

you will be able to see that the information provided by me is correct. please, I request you to refer to the above books before editing the article further. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harmansinghkang11 (talk • contribs) 03:10, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

yaar aah kde fuddu je kamm karin janna hadd ho gi paenchodaan aali gallan karin janna ik tu te ik aah paen da yaar vigani saala vadda yogdan vaala ayaa chakka saala

yaar aah kde fuddu je kamm karin janna hadd ho gi paenchodaan aali gallan karin janna ik tu te ik aah paen da yaar vigani saala vadda yogdan vaala ayaa chakka saala — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harmansinghkang11 (talk • contribs) 12:05, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

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	The Original Barnstar
	h Harmansinghkang11 (talk) 12:43, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

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hi let me do my own work dont interfere and go do your own work corectly first then come to my work .

(talk page stalker)@Harmansinghkang11: It would be very easy to view this as offensive. You are required to exhibit civility here. Your easy familiarity with WIkipedia's more arcane areas after such a short time here leads me to believe that you are probably a sockpuppet. We always find out, sooner or later. Fiddle Faddle 14:02, 13 August 2014 (UTC)