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Regarding this, out of curiosity, is there anything saying an INI can't also be a central university? Anyway, even if there is, the current list of central universities from UGC lists Rani Lakshmi Bai Central Agricultural University (see #28), so until a new list is published, it should be included in Central universities. --Muhandes (talk) 22:07, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

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Institute under State Legislature Act

I'm trying to understand how this works. Lets try to avoid original research and stick to sources. We have a reliable source which says an institute is a state university. We have the Act which looks to me like any other university Act, but I'm not an expert. Is there any conclusive difference? Can an institute be both a state university and an Institute under State Legislature Act? We already know institute can be both a central university and an Institution of National Importance, so I can't say it would surprise me.--Muhandes (talk) 19:05, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

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IuSLAs are established under state legislature act, empowered to grant degrees, although similar to state universities but operates with greater autonomy. These can be included in the list of state universities. UGC list of state universities should have included 3 remaining IuSLAs, if not, why selective on NIMS or SVIMS? MHRD did an 'All India Higher Education Survey' in 2011. The report listed these 5 IuSLAs (with name) and defines 8 degree awarding bodies. Besides, this report also cleared my by doubt regarding NIFTs, they doesn't fall under ANY category. Neurofreak (talk) 20:46, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

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List of universities in India

I undid your edit since it goes against the source. Selection criteria for lists (with inline citations) are extremely important. The selection criteria for state universities is the UGC list. I know it is not always 100% up to date, but per WP:V it is more important to stick with sources than be up to date. If we go astride from this we will never be able to object editors who change the list. In a month or two the list will change and then we can update List of universities in India and of course List of state universities in India

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I just noticed in this edit you did the same with another university. I'm not going to undo this for now, since I'm not as familiar with the list of private universities as I am with the list of state universities (which I'm working on). However, I suggest you reconsider and wait until the UGC changes their lists. They do it quite often now. --Muhandes (talk) 17:58, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

You reverted , saying " I did add a reliable reference". This is not the point. The point is the selection criteria. I do suggest you stop reverting edits while I try to discuss things. Per policy, you made an edit, I reverted, now we discuss, not edit war. --Muhandes (talk) 18:10, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

The ICAR listed 61 State Agricultural Universities (SAUs) and 2 Central Agricultural Universities (CAUs). SHUATS was upgraded to SAUs recently. See the updated SAUs in Uttar Pradesh on http://www.upcaronline.org. Rajendra Agri University is now a central University (It's a fact!). But, if wiki prefer outdated source rather than current status (with citation), so be it I am not going to gain anything in 'edit war'. End of discussion.Neurofreak (talk) 18:21, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes, per WP:LSC an unambiguous selection criteria is more important than being up to date. If you think you can suggest a better selection criteria, start discussion on the article's talk page, like I did here. You are more knowledgeable, so as long as it's unambiguous I'll probably support your ideas. I just go with the simplest thing I can use. --Muhandes (talk) 18:40, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

University of Madras

In this this edit you re-introduced two claims which I removed since they were outdated.

• Madras University has been consistently listed among top ranked universities for its academics and research output.

Not only does this sentence smell heavily of WP:BOOSTER, more importantly, it is a 2010 article which is based on 2008 data. Do we really need 2008 ratings in 2017? (BTW if you ever want to use this outdated source from some odd reason, it is available here.)

• it was ranked 5th by the India Today top universities ranking of 2011.

Again, do we really need 2011 ratings in 2017? There are perfectly good ratings for 2017 we can use. --Muhandes (talk) 14:07, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

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Actually, 'India Today' latest ranking doesn't feature Madras Univ due to non-participation of university in the ranking process (removed). The NISTADS do all higher education surveys for MHRD to determine central assistance. The last study titled "Measures of Performance of Universities in India: An Analysis of the Publication Output in Science and Technology" was for the study period 1998-2008. The data for next decade (2008-18) will probably be released by next year, till then, it is most comprehensive and reliable study I've ever seen assessing the research output of Indian Universities. Neurofreak (talk) 17:11, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

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I still think it is redundant and boosterish but I wont fight over it. I reworded the statement to say what it means as neutrally as I could. --Muhandes (talk) 19:17, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

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Hello Neurofreak, you reverted my edits on Template:Infobox India university ranking with the comment Only experts should add new paramaters.

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Please, check that your edit messed up the 'General - India' category and merged it with 'Business – international'. This impacted hundreds of pages linked to it. You are welcome to add new parameters if you do it without impacting the template structure. Happy Editing ! Neurofreak (talk) 13:40, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

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Hi Neurofreak, I noticed that you have nominated Amit Bhadana for deletion. While I think that is reasonable in itself, you did not create a deletion discussion page, and the deletion template on the article page links to the old deletion discussion from 2018. When nominating an article that has been nominated before, you need to create a new discussion, which will be called (in this case) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amit Bhadana (2nd nomination). For this reason I have reverted your latest edit to Amit Bhadana, but please feel free to nominate it again. My advice is to follow the step-by-step instructions in WP:AFDHOW carefully. The discussion page has to be created in a particular way, with the template that you can copy and paste from the WP:AFDHOW page (the one in Step 2), and after you have created it you have to add the discussion to the AfD log – again, all the information about how you do it is at WP:AFDHOW.

Your nomination of Ashish Chanchlani also needs to be finished and fixed. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashish Chanchlani should have the template, and it should be added to the AfD log as well. Please feel free to ask if any of this is unclear!

A final thing: when you nominate an article for deletion you have to include a nomination statement with a rationale for the deletion, and it does not make sense for the nominator to say "Delete per nom", since "per nom" means "for the same reasons that are listed in the nomination statement". In fact, you do not have to post a "delete" when you are the nominator, since you are automatically assumed to argue in favour of deletion when you nominate. I hope that makes sense. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 13:59, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

I have made the changes and re-nominate those articles. Thank you! Neurofreak (talk) 14:45, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

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Hello, I noticed that you added an AFD discussion template to my user page. Please don't do that. Rather use my talk page to notify me. You can find it here. Also, keep in mind that I didn't write the Amit Bhadana article. I merely moved it into the mainspace. Check the article's history to find the original creator. I believe User:Sturdyankit created it? Thanks, LefcentrerightDiscuss 15:30, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Alright, Thank you! Neurofreak (talk) 15:31, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

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You should also nominate Ajey Nagar for deletion as it is a same case like Amit bhadana — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4063:231B:A5E2:DF51:8EE0:958D:356A (talk) 17:01, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

He received a lot of coverage in print media in the wake of recent "TikTok vs YouTube controversy". Time magazine has named him among its 'Next Generation Leaders' 2019. I think that's quite a significant achievement. But, I believe his page should be moved to 'Carryminati' instead. Ajey Nagar, who? Also, you don't have to request anyone for AfD, if you think the subject of the article is not notable as per WP:BIO, you can initiate the AfD debate. Thank you! Neurofreak (talk) 17:33, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

NIFT

Hi, since you have just recreated the crap that was the NIFT article, please will you continue to watchlist the thing and take some responsibility for sorting out the problems that happen there? It is an absolute honeypot for WP:PROMO and dodgy press-released stories. Worth bearing in mind, if you do not know already, that the Indian news sector is utterly indiscriminate in its publication of puffed up and speculative stories ... except if it involves criticism of the government, with whom they are mostly in cahoots because of reliance on govt advertising and some serious right-wing mobsters. - Sitush (talk) 18:23, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I have added to my watchlist and recreated the article by cutting down the promo content.

No, you did not "cut down the promo content", you added it yourself. NIFT is consistently ranked among the best fashion schools in the world., a laundry list of programs, and Admission to these programmes are through two highly selective admission tests are themselves promotional, unencyclopedic content. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 19:28, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I don't think you are understanding our sourcing constraints at all at the NIFT article. Are you aware of WP:RS and in particular of WP:PRIMARY and the need for independence? Do you understand the vague nature of saying autonomous - autonomous of what? How are you going to deal with having two sources that, according to you, say different things? You've just added a Ministry of Textiles report (inherently dodgy) and there is already a story from The Times of India (which is known to be poor) - these two contradict each other regarding the autonomy but the idea of applying WP:NPOV to such a basic statement seems slightly ridiculous. - Sitush (talk) 09:20, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

I have removed the article from my watchlist. No, I am not aware of all the rules of editing, still learning. Please, edit/delete the section of NIFT article as per Wiki guidelines. Thank you! Neurofreak (talk) 09:25, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

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Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Ashish A. Chanchlani. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Why are you tagging the article un-necessary. While you have already nominated it for deletion? DMySon 15:04, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Tagging issues is not an unconstructive editing. You are violating the guidelines by reverting these tags, when AFD is still undergoing. Neurofreak (talk) 15:05, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Ashish A. Chanchlani. Do not tag the article with un-necessary tags. DMySon 15:09, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Congratulation! You have just violated three-revert rule (3RR). Neurofreak (talk) 15:13, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

List of institutions of higher education in Uttar Pradesh

In reference to BHU, can one mention a special note in a bracket. For eg: Banaras Hindu University (Institutes of Eminence), on a page listed in the subject.

Regards! Monsieurupanshu (talk) 07:54, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

You should add the 'Institute of Eminence' reference to the main article of Banaras Hindu University. Note is more appropiriate than mentioning in the bracket because BHU still remains a 'central university' under the UGC. I have just added a note on "IoE" status in the list page of 'higher education in Uttar Pradesh.' Happy Editing! Neurofreak (talk) 11:40, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Editing Template:Infobox India university ranking

When editing {{Infobox India university ranking}}, please don't delete rankings which are still in use like you did here. This creates an non-existing named reference in those articles. this is the correct way of adding updated rankings. --Muhandes (talk) 07:24, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

I understand this, but I don't think Outlook_2019 ranking is used anywhere. Since, I myself have added it few months back. I checked some universities individually too, but none has used it so far. Is there a tool/search box to check which article has used it? Thanks! Neurofreak (talk) 18:57, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

It is used here, here, etc. See this discussion where Zoodino went through the same process and did an awesome job cleaning up old references. --Muhandes (talk) 08:00, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I have seen this discussion. Now, I have updated Outlook_2020 till Top 30 (update: All). Yesterday, I checked the articles after changing the template, that's the reason I couldn't find the Outlook_2019 usage anywhere. Thanks for correcting! Neurofreak (talk) 09:38, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

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I erroneously assumed that you removed the "triumvirate" entirely from the article, I just realised, you corrected the grammar. Thank you for the correction. :) Neurofreak (talk) 17:52, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

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Lmao, explain the "unconstructive edits". An IP questioning my contributions? Hilarious. Check the edit history properly. My substantial contributions stand, whether you like it or not. Save your generic template for someone who cares. Thank you. Neurofreak (talk) 08:54, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

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Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to BITS Pilani. While objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. JRDkg (talk) 11:18, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Do you possess even a basic understanding of when and how to appropriately utilize templates? Regardless, before delving into discussions, ensure you understand the latest in Indian education. A recent Act has given rise to an entirely distinct category of universities in India, known as 'Institutions of Eminence Deemed to be Universities.' Take the time to comprehend before attempting any further discussion. [1]. Neurofreak (talk) 11:58, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Do you possess a basic understanding of etiquette when conversing with a fellow editor? No such category exists currently, first create such a category page for universities, then quote the acts. JRDkg (talk) 12:23, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Your apparent lack of awareness regarding recent developments in Indian education prompted my initial statement. The category does indeed exist, and the absence of a specific wiki page at this moment is inconsequential. Rest assured, it will be created soon. Neurofreak (talk) 12:32, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Hyderabad

Reagrding these edits. If the entries have articles, they are notable. The 2 ICFAI entrie, Teh Gandhi campus and the Wigen and Leigh college need to be added back. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Wigen and Leigh is spam, a dead website. ICFAI is a highly controversial degree-mill. There are hundreds of institutes in the city, let's stick to non-profit, public institutes in the article. Thank you. Neurofreak (talk) 18:11, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

OK, but your edit summary is misleading. These are not 'non-notable' institutions (here in Wikipedia and IRL). Secondly, your edits were not m, so do check WP:MINOR. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 20:34, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

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