User talk:Moriori/Archive 8
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George Adamski Article
I just wanted to thank you for your attention to the George Adamski article, specifically reverting the recent edits by user 2601:1c2:4100:ec0:fca1:7107:65b3:a41 and 2601:1c2:4100:ec0:1c19:f670:3b2c:54ed (I strongly suspect they are the same user). As someone who put in a good deal of work completely revising the article a few years ago to a more Wikipedia-appropriate skeptical article with proper citations, I think that the article as it stood before his edits was excellent. While I have no problems with editors making grammatical adjustments or adding properly cited material, I had the sense that this editor was the type who would start out making small edits, and would then gradually try to rewrite much of the article to suit their own needs and purposes. IMO, the article is already appropriately (strongly) skeptical of Adamski within an appropriate encyclopedia format, it is properly cited, and well-written, clear, and well-organized. I was about to contact you regarding the above user's recent edits. Thank you for monitoring the article and reversing the most dubious new wording and reworking of sentences and phrases. I have no problems with constructive edits, but I had the sense that this editor has another agenda in mind, and I did not want to see a good article ruined via dubious wording and sentence alterations and additions. 2606:A000:1011:C156:BCCA:ED7A:1BFA:880F (talk)
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Hello
Thank you for the clarification - you were correct with your change. Have a good day :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by CoffeeAndChai (talk • contribs) 02:48, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
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"not an improvement" revert
[1] The original is illogical - it states that microwave ovens can destroy bacteria "as well as conventional ovens", but lead to "increased risk that parts of the food will not reach recommended temperatures." You cannot just revert my edit because you happen to have a differing opinion and state my edit changed nothing. It clearly did. Vealoshawa (talk) 15:04, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, wrong person. Vealoshawa (talk) 15:05, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Not a problem, but you got me curious so I took a look. I must say I think User:MrOllie's version is the better one, and left a note on the talk page. Moriori (talk) 01:54, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- First this is not their version, all they did was revert my changes. Second, "better" and "encyclopedic" is not a constructive input on their own. In the context we're talking about, you can subjectively believe one of them is better but it'd be nice if you could explain how so, and you can't really call either version more encyclopedic. I mean, it's quite obvious, these are just explanatory paragraphs in neutral and descriptive style, so they are both as encyclopedic as a small part of sourced and factually correct piece of text can get. Vealoshawa (talk) 06:54, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- Are you for real? Look, it's my daughter in law's birthday and we are off to a beaut little riverside restaurant for lunch at 1pm my time. It will be all sweetness and light and gourmet food and locally brewed dark ales -- a wonderful event I am sure. I am not going to dampen the occasion by trying to figure out exactly what you are on about. Moriori (talk) 21:47, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- First this is not their version, all they did was revert my changes. Second, "better" and "encyclopedic" is not a constructive input on their own. In the context we're talking about, you can subjectively believe one of them is better but it'd be nice if you could explain how so, and you can't really call either version more encyclopedic. I mean, it's quite obvious, these are just explanatory paragraphs in neutral and descriptive style, so they are both as encyclopedic as a small part of sourced and factually correct piece of text can get. Vealoshawa (talk) 06:54, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- Not a problem, but you got me curious so I took a look. I must say I think User:MrOllie's version is the better one, and left a note on the talk page. Moriori (talk) 01:54, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
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Sutton-in-ashfield
Hi There,
Please can you have a look at he wiki page I have updated the page. Thank you DavidAshfield1 (talk) 01:35, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- Had a look. the article needs lots of cleanup. When info is added, any info it updates should be removed. For instance, the population figure. There were three different population figures this morning. I have fixed.Moriori (talk) 18:44, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Sutton-in-ashfield
Thanks that looks better. The page is looking far better. DavidAshfield1 (talk) 20:45, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
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What does "Huh?" mean in the context of discussing the relation between "British" and "Irish"?122.148.227.2 (talk) 10:44, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
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Edit War on Silas Texas
verything that I wrote was obviously backed up by the sources.
It says Bear Bayou as one of the alternative names on TexasAlmanac
The community’s name changing frequently is a reference to the names changing from Battle Ridge to Bear Bayou to Silas Baines to Silas. Can’t copy from the source
66% white 33% black, it says 90 white to 64 black, simple math into percentages, again can’t copy from source, you’re asking for too much
And Silas was expanding because it was! The settlement had a gin, sawmill, school, the source mentioned the houses getting spread out. A lot of backup for this one
The area began attracting settlers before the Civil War, The settlement began attracting settlers wanting to disassociate from the civil war, maybe you can change this one, but it was quite hard to reword it.
For 12 years only 5 families would inhabit the area, Bussey, Crump, Hammers, Prince, Sparks and Stockman, change that to 6, and the years were between 1880 and 1892
Silas’ economy was primarily sectored. Because it was! If farming and agriculture starts booming in an area and dominates its economy it is a primarily sectored area!
The other school is mentioned in the Shelby school site, which shows us the school dates back to 1915 and it says it was burned in 1948
Read sources properly TableSalt342 (talk) 08:27, 25 March 2021 (UTC) TableSalt342 (talk) 08:30, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- The place to talk about the Draft:Silas, Texas article is on the Draft:Silas, Texas Talk Page, not here. But as you have approached me here, I can comment generally on what you have said to me. You saying " The community’s name changing frequently" is absurd -- three name changes in 140-ish years is not "frequently". You mention four names of the town here, but the article only mentions three! Your "simple math into percentages" statement shows you lack some skills. 90 white to 64 black is not 66% white 33% black as you claim above. It is 58% white and 41% black. Your directive to me to "Read sources properly" is an insult, and reveals you haven't grasped a fundamental of the way wikipedia works. Any claims in an article should be able to be checked by the reader, via references. If there are no references, and someone asks for them but they are not added to the article, then the claims may be removed. That is sure to happen to your draft article if references are not given. And, the sources must support the claims in the article. No OR, especially bodgie maths, or POV. I see on your talk page that other editors have remarked on your problematic editing. Perhaps you could consider doing something else. Moriori (talk) 21:16, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
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More Words = More Information?
Admins of Wikipedia should be fired with such mind set. Improvements of Articles making them more consise and removing duplications, will be deleted by "monks" of the "Church of Wikipedia" with a blunt argument "removed information"? (So happened on: Crop circle) CRAZY!
- Such incoherence doesn't impress me much at this hour of the morning. If you hvave something useful to contribute please write it so it is coherent, on the article's talk page. Sign your posts too. Moriori (talk) 19:22, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- Moriori, are you policing the crop circle article now? My heartfelt commiserations. I set "require autoconfirmed" on that article in 2016. Guy (help! - typo?) 22:46, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
O HAI
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Revert
Hey, not sure why this reply was reverted… did I do something wrong? - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 04:54, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- No you didn't, but clearly I did. not conciously so must have been involuntary. Apologies.Moriori (talk) 08:36, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- No probs, all is good :-) - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 19:09, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
Frank Sinatra
Sinatra is NO longer in the list of best-selling music artists. Politsi (talk) 04:51, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- OK, but he WAS previously in the list, and that is encyclopedic detail in the article. Moriori (talk) 08:24, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
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Kiwi!
Kiwi! --2A01:36D:1200:49FA:7181:F8CE:E52:6D70 (talk) 08:52, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
- You didn't read that article, did you? Otherwise you would have seen that it says "Kiwi! is a 2006 computer-generated animation created by Dony Permedi, a student in the New York City School of Visual Arts...." and has nothing to do with New Zealand. Moriori (talk) 22:12, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
- I'm amazed that my all-time favourite animation has its own article. And it's been around for so long. Schwede66 02:26, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
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NZ premiers/prime ministers
Howdy. WP:JOBTITLES says to lowercase when following an ordinal. GoodDay (talk) 01:55, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
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