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November 2012

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Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Please note that in the article listing German aces you reverted material that had been deleted with the comment "del NN -- no wp article or appropriate independent RS refs -- per WP:LISTPEOPLE". Material in lists of people should be sourced to a bluelinked wp article, or to appropriate independent RS refs. Many thanks. Epeefleche (talk) 05:42, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Knight's cross recipients of the 29th ID

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What exactly is the purpose of templates like this, I beg your pardon? ÄDA - DÄP VA (talk) 14:51, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The intend follows numerous publications on Knight's Cross recipients. You find these groupings in publications of the Luftwaffe, Waffen-SS, Panzer-Divisions, U-boat commanders etc. MisterBee1966 (talk) 15:01, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I am aware that these publications exist. I just don't understand why we need to have those templates. The respective links should suffice, shouldn't they?ÄDA - DÄP VA (talk) 16:45, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I find them useful MisterBee1966 (talk) 17:02, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That explains it all, does it? ÄDA - DÄP VA (talk) 17:06, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed! I told you before the reason, the reason is that it follows groupings of existing publications. You then responded that you feel that the existing links are sufficient, that is POV. I then responded by my POV, telling you that to me they add value (ease of navigation, not cluttering the respective article with a "see also" section). If you want a more precise answer ask a more precise question please. MisterBee1966 (talk) 17:20, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I simply wanted to know what was the purpose of those templates. Personally, I can't see a value in knowing that one member of Aufklärungsabteilung 29 was awarded a Knight' Cross. A simple list or a a emntion in the text would suffice, one would imagine. ÄDA - DÄP VA (talk) 17:31, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Otto Weiß

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It is strange. You're right; Arras was after the 18 May (21 May). The French attack at Cambrai was a day after that (22 May). The only real example I can think of, was the Battle at Montcornet on 17 May which lasted through until the 20th. On 19 May, a book I have and included on the Battle of France article last year, said the French lost 32 tanks on 17th and a further 80, roughly 50% of their strength, in another battle on 19 May. It maybe the battle on the 17th that this award relates to, but I wonder whether it could have been applied for and ratified so quickly. Does this help? Dapi89 (talk) 19:41, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

According to the Luftwaffe reference volumes (De Zeng and co.) II./LG 2 was located at St-Trond-Duras in mid-May, then moved to Cambrai airfield by 21 May. On that date the unit claimed 40 tanks destroyed in the Cambrai area. perhaps it is the date that it is wrong and the success was claimed during the French attacks to the south of the German corridor on the 21-22? In that case it might not have been for Montcornet. If you are certain the author has given the correct date for the award it must have been Montcornet. If not, it was likely to have been for the actions at Cambrai. Dapi89 (talk) 18:00, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

John Dundas

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Thank you. Could I leave this until the weekend, I have little time before now and then? Dapi89 (talk) 19:44, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. I'll look at them on the weekend. Dapi89 (talk) 18:02, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that. It was quite painless. I have submitted Eric Lock for review now. I can help out with yours when someone deigns to look at it. Dapi89 (talk) 19:51, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue LXXX, November 2012

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Lock and Viktor Mölders

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Thanks for looking at Lock.

I was doing Archie McKellar's list and he may have shot down a pilot named Viktor Mölders on 7 October 1940. Mölders was killed. Could it be the brother of the famous Werner Mölders? I know that his brother was also called Viktor and he flew Bf 110s in the German invasion of Denmark. Dapi89 (talk) 19:31, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Just for info the source says "missing" not killed. Dapi89 (talk) 19:42, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Great! It was him then, thanks. Dapi89 (talk) 19:46, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. I have little time now. But I will sort it out in the next day or so. Dapi89 (talk) 19:20, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay I've covered them; save for one. I cannot find the source so I have taken it out until I can. Dapi89 (talk) 16:56, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the Lock article. I've put Archie McKellar up now and Rhys-Davids. Did you find the LG 1 info useful? I can add to the article all I have if you like re: the North Africa operations of the Gruppe. Dapi89 (talk) 13:19, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Otto Weiß (pilot)

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Hermann Hölter

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Nice work with the expansion! Always interesting to read more about an individual I've created. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 11:34, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hermann Hogeback

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Yes. One Staffel I believe spear-headed III./LG 1's operation against British logistics between Tobruk and Sollum on 29 June 1941. I have to check the staffel. They saw an Allied fleet off the coast of T&S and then proceeded to attack the Australian warship (Destroyer) Waterhen and a small transport. On 9 July the Gruppe, but I don't know which staffel, sank the damaged HMS Defender on 9 July 1941 which was under tow at the time. Because of the inability of the German fighters to devote time and energy to operational-level interdiction targeting, the LG 1 bombers involved usually attacked Tobruk at night. The fighters were usually used in Ju 87 escort. Dapi89 (talk) 19:08, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Willy Lehnert

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I believe your source is in error. There were no Spitfire units in the MTO until March 1942, and then only in Malta. Spitfires did not reach Africa until June 1942. Dapi89 (talk) 18:33, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Though I cannot be absolutely sure they were Brewster aircraft, I can, without doubt, say that they were not Spitfires. Dapi89 (talk) 16:32, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Hermann Hogeback

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The Bugle: Issue LXXXI, December 2012

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Frohe Weihnachten - 2012

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DYK for Ernst Hechler

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Mifter (talk) 12:03, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop adding Walter Schuck's full name at the beginning of the "Childhood, education and early career" section. Per WP:SURNAME "After the initial mention of any name, the person should be referred to by surname only," and the initial mention of the name is considered the one in the lead paragraph per WP:FULLNAME. Thank you. Canadian Paul 15:38, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why would you go and turn a minor issue into a hostile argument? An experienced editor such as yourself should know better, or should at least be familiar with WP:OWN. Wikipedia is a collaborative environment and "Since I am the one expanding the article I do as I please" is completely unacceptable and I am sure you know that. When there is a disagreement, we discuss it, or get an outside opinion. One does not just go do what they want because they feel entitled to do so. So again I ask, please stop adding Walter Shuck's fall name at the beginning of the "Childhood, education and early career" section per WP:SURNAME. If you have a good reason to do so, I'm more than open to hearing it. In the interests of good faith, I haven't reverted, pending your response, so that we can proceed in a civil manner. Thank you. Canadian Paul 22:13, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

PhilbyNZ welcome

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Hey there, thanks for the postive feedback. I have noticed your signature on many of the articles I've worked on. I've presumed I haven't been damaging your work, but rather just expanding on it.

I'm enthused by the idea of expanding a standard knowledge-base, rather than just reinventing the wheel with publishing yet another private webpage or keeping all my research to myself. However, I'm no IT geek, and still fumbling my way round Wiki-editing. The editing of current pages has been simple enough to learn, and I've been able to copy the format/programming protocols of similar concepts to add weblinks to ends of articles, & tables. However how to add internal article references (as you've suggested) or setting up new Wiki articles still eludes me. No matter, as I have several hundred pilot articles that DO exist to work through before I even need to think about the few that aren't up yet.

I've been collecting info on all the Jagdwaffe Ritterkreuz holders, and many of the other significant pilots of the period, mostly from fairly mainstream sources, but there are often little bits in each that when combined give a much more rounded picture. I also find it valuable to frame certain biographical events in a context of the war or the location to give a broader picture. I decided to start my editing at 'S', since most people will typically start at 'A' when cataloguing, and enthusiasm or time rund out further down the alphabet. That said, tho I might leave Herr Hartmann's victory tally list for a few years yet, as that makes for a fairly hefty wiki-table...

Finally, I'm also quite unaware of how to add pictures to articles, but I also expect there are serious legal issues as regards scanning images from published books, or even other websites, so I have instead just included a mention that they can be found at such&such a place. Cheers Philby NZ (talk) 21:51, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Since what I am doing is amalgamating a number of seperate (often just small) pieces it can get hard to include a reference for everything in the text. However, I do add a list of all my references at the article-end (on-line & in-print). But you're right, that for specific anecdotes, or facts, I should look at citing the particular reference pages. I'll go and learn how to add those in properly. Cheers Philby NZ (talk) 01:38, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the follow-up - I've checked out those Waldmann, Molders & Marseille articles you've mentioned and they do look useful, so I will review more closely and see what I can get from them. Currently I'm retroactively going through my articles (assorted Jagdwaffe pilots starting with 'S' and adding in my references where applicable. Appreciate your help, and advice, thanks

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No, that was not my intent at all, and I apologize if I caused any offense. It's difficult to convey tone through conversational text and, without knowing the other person, it is even more difficult to know what the most effective approach is, you just have to take a crappy guess with your wording and hope that it works out. At least now I'll know better! Canadian Paul 15:54, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

dash to ndash or ndash to dash

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October to December 2012 Milhist Peer, A-class and FAC reviews

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Battle of Berlin

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Hi. Do you think you could add your support entry to the it? Cheers. Dapi89 (talk) 12:33, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The Bugle: Issue LXXXII, January 2013

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Hermann Graf

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Just to let you know, I really am going to start making major edits to this article this time while doing other things. Please assist with your personal archive when able! Dapi89 (talk) 17:20, 29 January 2013 (UTC) I thought I had. I was going to ask you about that. Dapi89 (talk) 17:57, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I seem to have fallen for a hoax G.A review. This 'reviewer' has been here a matter of days and is making some absurd requests. Could you do the G.A instead? (You can follow the brief edits on my edit history) Cheers. Dapi89 (talk) 19:32, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your input. Its like beating ones head against a brick wall. Someone who can just 'walk in', review a strange subject matter and decide, for reasons that are anathema to how most articles of this type are done, goes to show how crazy Wikipedia can be. I don't 'suffer fools gladly' - so forgive my robust responses. I believe (thankfully) he has closed it. I'd appreciate it if you could step in and review it when you’re ready. Naturally as an experienced editor and reviewer, and one whom I have collaborated with many times, what is asked for will be done! I just want to get this one out of the way. Thanks again. Dapi89 (talk) 13:03, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate that. He has officially closed it - I just removed the tag off the talk page. The article didn't fail, I just wouldn't review under that reviewer. I will go ahead witht he suggestions for now. Dapi89 (talk) 18:34, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reinhard Seiler

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Heya - thanks for the input tidying up the article and clarifying my edits. I've add a bundle of extra citations. It can be hard to avoid the appearance of plagiarism when there are only limited facts to narrate in a chronological order, but I do try to take them an re-write them in my own style. Certainly no cutting and pasting! The point has also been to pull assorted comments and events together from various books into a single article. Hoep that has worked, no idea of whether they woudl eb satisfactory for higher-level review, I'll let more experienced peopel decide that, and just keep chipping away on padding out the assorted pilot articles 21:46, 5 February 2013 (UTC)Philby NZ (talk)(User talk:Philby NZ)

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Hans von Mellenthin

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Hi MB, I have a question for you: do you happen to know anything about this man? I know the basic outlines, but I can't seem to find much on him. This book mentions him in some detail, but I was wondering if you knew of anything better. I'm writing a paper on German development of U-boats in the interwar years, and von Mellenthin is mentioned in Rössler's The U-boat as having done the research on what type of submarine suited the Germans best in 1914-18, but that's about it. I'd like to dig into that a bit more if I can (in large part because other things I've read have criticized the Reichsmarine for not investigating the experiences of the First World War like von Seekt did in the army, and I'd like to see what exactly they did do). Any help you might be able to provide would be much appreciated. Parsecboy (talk) 21:13, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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German Army

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I saw you changed the name of the german army from Heer to German Army. I was just wondering what the policy on this is in ww2 related articles? Should we refer to them as the Heer or the German army? Thanks RetroLord 13:03, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue LXXXIII, February 2013

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List of awards and nominations received by Scissor Sisters

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Helden der Wehrmacht

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Please stop pushing this Nazi publication "Helden der Wehrmacht - Unsterbliche deutsche Soldaten - Heroes of the Wehrmacht - Immortal German soldiers" in acticles, or you will be banned from Wikipedia. --Otberg (talk) 21:12, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Helmut Eberspächer

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I have no objection to the Helmut Eberspächer article being nominated. All I did was create it, everyone else, including yourself put in a lot more work. DocYako (talk) 17 March 2013

Glasdachfabrik

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This word has me bafffled. What is a glass roof? Could this be a skylight factory? Rumiton (talk) 11:12, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Helmut Eberspächer

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The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

G'day MisterBee1966, I'm currently working to get the subject article to GA and wondered if you had access to any material on Neuhausen's service with the Luftstreitkräfte in WWI? Grateful for any help you could provide. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 02:39, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue LXXXIV, March 2013

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Raithel

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G'day, I came across a web reference to a Helmutt Raithel who was a member of the DAV Sektion Bayern in the 1960's, and led the first ascent of Mount Russell (Alaska) in 1962. It is almost certainly the same guy, but I can't find anything reliable in English to confirm it so I can put it in the article. Can you suggest a possible source or someone I could ask? I have left a message on WP Climbing but they haven't got any German members, so I'm not too hopeful there. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 14:00, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hans Hanke

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G'day MB66, would you have anything to add to Hans Hanke in your sources? I'm about two citations from B Class, and it is frustrating as I expect one of the RK or German Cross books would have a bit more on his early life and service before 13th SS Division. Any help gratefully received. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 12:37, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The Bugle: Issue LXXXV, April 2013

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I thought I would just let you know about this, but I am considering about listing one of the many featured articles that you promoted, Heinrich Bär to be displayed on the Main Page for May 25. Minima© (talk) 20:43, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Milhist FA, A-Class and Peer Reviews January–March 2013

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Artur Phleps

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G'day MB, did you have a view re: support/oppose on the subject ACR? Just checking. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 08:30, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Helmuth Brinkmann

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Just FYI, I added some subsections and {{Expand section}} to Helmuth Brinkmann while random page patrolling. --I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 03:40, 13 May 2013 (UTC) (corrected link at 03:41, 13 May 2013 (UTC))[reply]

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Heinrich Bär (1913–57) was a German Luftwaffe flying ace in World War II. He flew more than 1,000 combat missions, and fought in all major German theatres of the war, including the Western, Eastern and Mediterranean fronts. He was shot down on 18 occasions and was credited with 220 aerial victories, around 16 of which were in the Messerschmitt Me 262, an early jet fighter. Bär joined the Reichswehr in 1934 and transferred to the Luftwaffe in 1935. Serving first as a mechanic, then as a pilot on transport aircraft, he was informally trained as a fighter pilot. He claimed his first aerial victory in September 1939 on the French border. By the end of the Battle of Britain, his tally of victories was 17. Transferred to the Eastern front to participate in Operation Barbarossa, he quickly accumulated further kills, earning the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross with Oak Leaves and Swords for 90 aerial victories in February 1942. Hermann Göring's personal dislike of Bär, coupled with Bär's insubordinate character and lack of military discipline, deprived him of higher awards. After the war, Bär continued as an aviator, and was killed in a flying accident near Braunschweig. (Full article...)

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Good catch on adding Grille to the avisos template - for some reason, she's not included in Groener's first volume (I'm guessing she's in the 2nd, which is at home - I'm away for the week and won't be able to check until Tuesday probably). Anyway, would you mind adding what you can from HRS? My sources so far are a little thin at the moment. I'm guessing HRS has the details on the specific visits/trips the ship made in the 1930s. Thanks. Parsecboy (talk) 14:06, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hallo Bee, kannst du mich mal bei Gelegenheit in die Geflogenheiten der hiesigen Wiki einweisen? Größtes Hinderniss sind wohl meine Englischkenntnisse ;O). Sicherlich kann ich da aber auf die Hilfe deutsch sprechender Kollegen hier hoffen und mit der Zeit wird das sicherlich werden. Grüßlies --PimboliDD (talk) 13:40, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

THX Bee. Frage, können denn Artikel die in der englischen Wiki entstehen auch in die deutsche wikipedia exportiert werden?--PimboliDD (talk) 12:56, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

For your information: PimboliDD is banned in de:Wiki because of his, in my opinion, poor use of sources up to the point of not mention them or mention wrong ones because the sources he used were not allowed. His newst actions in de:Wiki with this account and this IP show that he is not willing or not able to change his behaviour. Together with this users poor english I see no possibility for him to enrich en:Wikis articles but only the attempt to continue the work he has been blocked for in de:Wiki. As of this reasons I am not willing to support such things in any way. Eine durchsicht seiner jeweils aktuellen Bearbeitungen hier wird sich wohl nicht vermeiden lassen. Danke und Grüße --Bomzibar (talk) 11:13, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Henner Henkel

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Hi, I noticed that in April you updated the article on German tennis player Henner Henkel and added a 'Deaths from hypothermia' category. I was just wondering if you have a reliable source for that info so that we can add it to the references and mention the hypothermia in the article. Danke. --Wolbo (talk) 09:16, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep up the great work

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At a loss

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Hi, I noticed you re-added the Lost at sea category at the Lütjens article. That category seems to me redundant as the article has already been categorised as People who died at sea. Could you enlighten me to the differences between being lost at sea and died at sea. So far I assumed the former applied to people who perished in a shipwreck and the latter for those who died in other events, including battles at sea. ÄDA - DÄP VA (talk) 19:53, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue LXXXVIII, July 2013

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Just in case you were interested in expanding the article. Dapi89 (talk) 19:30, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Apr to Jun 2013 Milhist content reviewing

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Posen FAC

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Hi MisterBee. If you have the time, could you drop by the FAC and work your usual magic with HRS? Thanks. Parsecboy (talk) 15:25, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Question about book

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Could you see User_talk:Moonriddengirl#RAF_Merryfield_.26_possible_copyvio and let us know if you have access to the book in question to help check for copyvios? Thanks. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:00, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Bee,

Thank you for the added info on Voss. I am going to copy it onto the article's talk page, to keep it handy for my future development of the article.

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If you should come up with any more sources, could you please add them on the article talk page instead of in the assessment process?

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Okay, hadn't thought of that angle. I am rather new at this A Class assessment game, so bear with me, please.

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Pardon my slow learning curve here, but I believe I have addressed your concerns expressed in your Comments about the A Class assessment. Please do take a look.

Georgejdorner (talk) 03:50, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Many thanks for the additional Google map sources. I have included them in the article. I do not believe there are any other outstanding issues with the article based on your assessment. Could you please check?

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The Bugle: Issue LXXXIX, August 2013

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Heinz Vinke and Georg Kraft

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I hoped you would be able to help me name the radio operators for the above pilots on the night they were shot down by Bob Braham. Thanks. Dapi89 (talk) 11:10, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have. I don't think I have time to offer any input though. I have found the answer to my question, but thanks anyway. Dapi89 (talk) 22:20, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again. Could you have a look at the Braham article and tell me if the internet sources are acceptable? They state they use primary sources from Germany and Denmark. Dapi89 (talk) 17:39, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I was hoping you might consider adding Robert Spreckles to your to do list. Bob Braham was his 45th victory. I just thought a blue link looks better than a red for this article. Dapi89 (talk) 19:14, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If you intend to produce a detailed table on the Schnaufer victory list I might be able to put the names of the crew on if you want. Dapi89 (talk) 18:05, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Sources will follow. Let me know if this is what you wanted. Dapi89 (talk) 21:09, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have info re: his contribution to the planning of Operation Gisela?
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Kurt Agricola

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Hello, I've returned from a long period of absence with an article about an interesting if unknown personality of WWII, Generalleutnant Kurt Agricola. Before I create the article (then, your feedback would be greatly appreciated) I was wondering whether you could help me with a DYK (the part about his wife or his occupational policy seems to me like a good idea).

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G'day again, MB66! I'm currently working on the Johann Mickl article, and wondered the Ritterkreuz sources you use had material on Mickl's lesser awards? Any help you could give would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 02:57, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your contributions to the Mickl article! Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 22:54, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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For diligence in the A Class review of Werner Voss. Georgejdorner (talk) 17:45, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Military history coordinator election

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The Bugle: Issue LXXXXX, September 2013

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Thanks for your note. You are correct, it should have been U-553. In my defence it was already like that when I did the re-write, but I should have noticed and I didn't. Anyway, I've fixed it now. Regards, Xyl 54 (talk) 00:31, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Werner Husemann

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Did he win the Knight's Cross? I have him achieving his 33rd victory on the night of 3/4 March 1945, (but independent of Operation Gisela). Dapi89 (talk) 17:29, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Dapi89 (talk) 20:15, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Danke für diese! Dapi89 (talk) 09:28, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations!

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Operation Gisela

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Would you mind giving me your opinion of the article in its present state? Dapi89 (talk) 13:38, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed the dashes and added citations to the query in relation to claims made by lost crews. I explained the Scram order in the next sentence but I have removed the full-stop to make it part of the same sentence.
I don't understand the problem with the aftermath. It is a general point made by authors about this topic and personally I think it was pertinent to point out that the lack of intruder operations were a major error by the OKL.
I'm not sure how to change the colour coding to symbols. I'll try. Thanks. Dapi89 (talk) 17:04, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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