User talk:MBisanz/Archive 10
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Question
Thank you for notice at my page. Should this edit be reverted as well?Biophys (talk) 00:26, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- If he doesn't notify the parties he has added soon, I'll remove them, but I trust the arbs will sort out who should and should not be included when they comment. MBisanz talk 00:33, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you for your support in my RfA MBisanz, I feel honored to have earned the faith and trust of such an established editor and admin. I'll do my best to never let you (or the 'pedia) down. — Ched : ? 02:02, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Note
Please consider deleting these 7 Wikipedia images which I transferred from Wikipedia to Commons: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/File:Sally_lightfoot_crab_2.jpg
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/File:FontanaDiTrevi112406.jpg
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/File:Saint_4_09_067.jpg
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/File:San_Biagio.jpg
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/File:San_Simeone_Piccolo.jpg
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/File:Scrub-Bay.jpg
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/File:Sri_Munisuvrata-Nemi-Parsva_Jinalaya,_Santhu.JPG
Thank you, --Leoboudv (talk) 19:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- As usual you were very thorough, which made my job easy. MBisanz talk 01:02, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help Matt. --Leoboudv (talk) 02:17, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Re:RFA
Thanks for your kind nomination. I will fill out the standard questions and transclude it, unless you would rather do the latter task yourself. --Patar knight - chat/contributions 02:10, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- I have transcluded the RfA [1] --Patar knight - chat/contributions 02:23, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you
Hi MBisanz, Thank you for the information, I will make good use of them. (Btw, I am not that new to wiki, I usually do not login to wiki when I am working on wiki.) rdt (talk) 05:03, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
RFA
Hi! Just dropped in to say that you seem to have misspelled the name of the candidate in your RFA nomination ("Pater knight has been an editor since..."). I thought I'd let you know before someone opposes on that basis :) Jafeluv (talk) 10:51, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
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Autoreviewer rights
Just wanted to say thank you for bestowing upon me the Autoreviewer bit. Cheers, MuZemike 15:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
re: Welcome back
- Thanks. That means a lot to me that someone noticed. Please let me know if there's anything special I should catch up on. Rossami (talk) 00:16, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Deletion review for Headshot
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Headshot. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. -Zeus-u|c 20:04, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Thankyou!
Thanks! One thing we all share: I love Love LOVE wikipedia!
Iivari.mokelainen (talk) 20:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Assistance On Tags
Where is the tag you use to propose the removal of a section of an article? I can't find it anywhere. -WarthogDemon 02:04, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- Would {{Disputed-section}} work? MBisanz talk 02:09, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- There's a bit of unintended irony with it, but yes this is perfect. Thank you. -WarthogDemon 02:10, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks for your help in deleting the articles at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anybot's algae articles! Much appreciated. –Juliancolton | Talk 01:33, 29 June 2009 (UTC) |
Image copyright
Hi there. The image File:TBP_The_Persian_Bay_20_June_09_front_page.jpg should be under Kopimi license, but I could not find that in the drop down menu. Like File:The Pirate Bay logo.svg. Not sure how to fix that... can you help?--SasiSasi (talk) 21:47, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, I moved it to commons and put the right label on it. MBisanz talk 01:35, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Many thanks. One thing, i made a spelling mistake in the title (!), its "TBP The Persian Bay 20 June 09 front page.jpg" but should be TPB, not TBP, do you know how to fix that in a image? ta --SasiSasi (talk) 19:14, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I was wondering why this was deleted. ÷seresin 03:50, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- The first nom was declined without any !votes placed, so it was deleted, the fourth was put under the wrong name and moved to the right name, so it was deleted as a page move. MBisanz talk 08:57, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- It is standard practice to delete declined RfAs? ÷seresin 05:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- As far as I can tell, it is indeed. –Juliancolton | Talk 05:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- It is standard practice to delete declined RfAs? ÷seresin 05:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
2nd AFD guideline?
Hi, This article is in a 2nd AFD. Since you concluded the first one, could you point (overhere) to the guideline that covers such a 2nd? -DePiep (talk) 06:56, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- There is no "guideline" that covers second AFDs. All the rules about AFD apply no matter if it is the first, second, or third time an article is at AFD. MBisanz talk 08:59, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Clear, thank you. -DePiep (talk) 16:15, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
For my own edification...
...would you mind explaining this?
(I'm not challenging you; I take it as a given that you had an excellent reason, and I don't care about the change of colour, which seems to be the only noticeable effect. But I am curious.)
- Heh heh. According to some ancient discussion, coffee-roll colored boxes are only for talk namespace pages. For boxes in other namespaces, the {{ombox}} is used. More just me being pointy in a pointless way :P MBisanz talk 18:06, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
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Yes, Bravo! Readin (talk) 03:06, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
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Cleanup on Aisle 9
You deleted Azerbaijanis in the United Kingdom per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Azerbaijanis in the United Kingdom. However, there was a co-nominated article (List of British Azerbaijanis) that was not deleted. As the admin who closed the discussion, can you delete the left-over article so as to complete the close-out process? WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
NFG logo
Do you think you could re-do the logo, so that you crop out the "edge" of the oval from their website? That's not part of their logo. I'm sure you simply didn't notice it, friend. -- Thekohser 16:17, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Patar knight's thanks(pam)...
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My recent RfA passed at 52 support, 7 oppose, and 2 neutral. Thank you for taking some of your valuable time to write me an excellent nomination and also for your support !vote. I hope that I will be able to justify your trust in me as an administrator. Thanks, --Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:05, 2 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
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Thanks a lot for the help and welcome!
--Boxeatskyoko (talk) 05:28, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Jimbo ≠ steward
Matthew—thanks for that comment on my talk page. There's more about Jimbo's status WRT a number of functions, in the RFC discussion. I'm hard-pressed with RL work until Monday, so have been scant in my WP comments. Tony (talk) 08:15, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- PS I checked the bulleted list of Stewards' rights there.
- Administrate global accounts (centralauth-admin)
- Edit all user rights (userrights)
- Make global blocks (globalblock)
- Make users into Administrators or Bureaucrats (makesysop)
- Remove global blocks (globalunblock)
- I thought stewards were the only ones permitted to desysop, and that ArbCom did this ony via a steward. Can you comment? Tony (talk) 08:42, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Nice work catching this user. You may have noticed that I offered them a challenge because they wanted a barnstar. I didn't think a new user would know how to patrol vandalism so I offered them a challenge. I was shocked at how quickly they managed to revert four vandalisms, but I guess that explains how they knew so much.--The Legendary Sky Attacker 07:49, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
File permission problem with File:7DS_poster_(large).jpg
Copy of email containing permissions sent to permissions-en@wikimedia.org 5 July 09. Hope that sorts it out for you. Captainclegg (talk) 11:33, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Some shameless thankspam!
17:13, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Wrong block template
You gave PCDos.Warp (talk · contribs) a temporary block template but an indef block. I didn't want to mess with it so over to you. Dougweller (talk) 18:34, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- Doh! Fixed. MBisanz talk 18:36, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
I don't understand
You placed a warning on my talk page that I had improperly uploaded a picture that I had taken. Are you saying that each time I take a picture I have to e-mail permission from me to wikipedia in order to use it on wikipedia?--«Marylandstater» «reply» 23:13, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- Here
is the original with that data stuff on it. The one I posted had been cropped using adobe photo which also apparently removed the data stuff.--«Marylandstater» «reply» 00:05, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I got your message. What exactly is the "missing information on its copyright status" with File:Lily Tomlin--Hair helmet.jpg? I've already listed the image as non-free publicity shot. Thanks, --M@rēino 02:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
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BorgQueen (talk) 02:49, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Deletion review for Battledawn
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Thanks. Chrs181818 (talk) 13:39, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Copyright & fair-use rationale of SVGified logo
You are invited to participate in an interesting discussion at Wikipedia talk:Image use policy#File:Man Utd FC .svg. Your comments & suggestions are very much appeciated Arteyu ? Blame it on me ! 20:46, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
File permission problem with File:Word_carcassonne.jpg
This is a reply to the message posted on User Talk:SGBailey.
As the blurb attached to the image states, I created the image and I gave permission for its use. It was uploaded to permit discussion of a WP problem with a request that it not be deleted until after Feb 2009. The problem has been resolved. The file may be deleted. -- SGBailey (talk) 10:50, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Rfatally
Yes, I just saw that. Too bad; thanks for the heads up. -- Avi (talk) 15:02, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi MBisanz,
Thanks for the intro -- a lot of stuff to read and learn!
I have a question regarding the page I created today. Recently, another user added a "needs more citations block" at the time I had 3 citations. Now I have 9. considering the brevity of the article, is it safe to remove that "needs more citations" block?
Aaron.matt83 (talk) 18:51, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
I apologize! Please know it won't happen again. --DanaDBerry (talk) 14:57, 7 July 2009 (UTC)DanaDB —Preceding unsigned comment added by DanaDBerry (talk • contribs)
Hi. I just got a note from you
about something that I'd posted about BAID. It was just for discussion purposes, a chat long since concluded, so feel free to send it to where ever stuff in red ends up. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 01:44, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
- Life is (opinion) supposed to be easy. It's just that us humans are so frequently willing to work so damn hard to make it difficult. Carptrash (talk) 01:48, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Screenshot of software allowed
Regarding your comment on an image file (http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/File:Basal_control.jpg), I believe your comments are not correct.
The image that I created is a single screenshot from my computer of a software tool by Smiths Medical called CozMonitor. Screen shots are allowable as long as you do not copy so many screens as to basically copy all of the tool. The image I made was based on the one screen shot and was released by me to the public domain.
In addition, Smiths medical is no longer in the business of insulin pumps and supporting software. The have no future interest anyway. The image is still a very good example of how basal insulin delivery is controlled by the insulin pump and is applicable to the overall science.
If the file is tagged inappropriately, please help me fix that. I no longer have the image to upload again and retag. mbbradford 14:55, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Francine Dee
Hello, why did you speedy delete Francine Dee's listing on 00:13, 1 April 2009?
I searched your contribs for this date and time and do not see anything listed at this time.
Please add this page back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MorphiousDG (talk • contribs) 23:39, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
- It was deleted by User:X! per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Francine Dee. MBisanz talk 00:51, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
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I noticed you cleared out a lot of old images tagged for deletion last night. Just letting you know it's appreciated. J Milburn (talk) 10:51, 9 July 2009 (UTC) |
Regarding this image that was deleted due to lack of licensing information. I have restored it because the image is is in the public domain as it must have been taken prior to 1922 when Hermann Rorschach died. I have added clarification to the image page explaining this. I assume this is a non-controversial undeletion. Thanks you all your hard work with clearing the images speedies. Chillum 12:58, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
- Sounds good. Thanks. MBisanz talk 18:40, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Not clear what you mean about this image. I uploaded it, sourced it and it's a screenshot which I made of my website. Can you help as to where I've indicated it's sourced from someone other then me. Thanks. hjuk (talk) 18:38, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
- The issue is that we can't figure it out the context (that you own the site), simply from your upload. I've added an information template given the next ownership details. MBisanz talk 18:42, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. Do I need to do anything else to tidy up loose ends? hjuk (talk) 21:36, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Substituting surname
Hi. Any idea how you can {{subst: a surname in the page title to DEFAULTSORT sort the categories? Its just I have a large batch of German politicians to transwiki and I want to do it more quickly. So basically when you create the page it automatically places e.g Fritz Baier as Baier, Fritz in the categories. If not I gather there is a bot that can default sort the categories by surname and fix it afterwards? Dr. Blofeld White cat 10:17, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Why are you ignoring me? Dr. Blofeld White cat 20:19, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I created it. It was a screenshot of my desktop actually. Here's some proof:
Please don't delete it again now that it's been properly licensed, lol.. Rocknroll714 (talk) 19:25, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
- RocketDock (the "Mac" dock) is open-source and licensed under GPL; hence, any screenshots taken with it present should be perfectly fine. Additionally, the wallpaper, icons, and windows theme were also all freely released by various sources as well by with no rights reserved. For these reasons, I'd rather not have to crop it unless absolutely necessary, especially since I think it gives the image some nice aesthetic quality and demonstrates how the software can run on Windows XP (notably, there are other screenshots on Wikipedia showing the full Windows XP interface as well; hence, again, should be just fine) Rocknroll714 (talk) 19:32, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
- Sure, go right on ahead, unless both can be used that is. Also, Aurora itself is also licensed under GPL (I was its creator) Rocknroll714 (talk) 19:36, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
- No problem Rocknroll714 (talk) 19:43, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Bots
I see. Know anybody who could run a bot to transfer missing articles on Czech municipalities from Czech wiki? KotBot is on holiday. Dr. Blofeld White cat 20:22, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
You've flagged this file for deletion. I don't understand the poorly-stated grounds or what to do about it - as usual with most issues to do with images, the info provided is totally unhelpful and the UI is appalling - no links at all to anything helpful. Since you appear to have raised the objection, I expect you to help in resolving it. --Philcha (talk) 20:49, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info, but why could you not have provided it up-front? --Philcha (talk) 21:00, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
- Your "I need to fulfill ever letter of the process and not be vague in any way, using a template that is community-approved seems like the best way to do that" is incorrect - it did not give me the info I needed to save the img. -21:22, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
ACPD pages created
I've created two initial pages for the ACPD:
- Wikipedia:Advisory Council on Project Development
- Wikipedia:Advisory Council on Project Development/Forum
Please add them to your watchlist, stop by, and so forth. The latter page has a couple of logistical issues that we should discuss sooner rather than later, so I'd appreciate if you could find some time to comment on them.
Thanks! Kirill [talk] [pf] 13:33, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Re: your message on my talk page
The image in question, was a screen shot I took in Dec. 2008. I have sent an email to permissions@wikipedia.org (or what ever it is) authorizing the image to be used. I have seen several other screenshots using the same copyright tag as mine, so I didn't tink there was a problem. Please let me know why exactly, you posted the tag on that image. Thanks. AllanVS talk contribs 19:52, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
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RE: Gamma Alpha Lambda
I'm not sure why the entry of Gamma Alpha Lambda was deleted. It is a national organization with 4 chapters. Please reference www.gammaalphalambda.com to confirm this and undelete the article or provide the reasons why, thanks. Gal3130 (talk) 05:21, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gamma Alpha Lambda. MBisanz talk 05:22, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- I am sorry, but I cannot undelete it, please see Deletion review. MBisanz talk 05:28, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
A deletion review has been filed as this is a notable (and non-Greek may I add) sorority with national status... Gal3130 (talk) 05:54, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Puzzled
Talk:Roero was deleted a couple of days ago ‘per CSD G7, the only editor who provided substantial content blanked the page.’ [4]
I then (as I recall) re-created it, with {{WPItaly}}, only to see that you deleted that page on the same basis this morning. I am pretty sure I didn’t blank it—why would I have done? I have re-re-created it, but I wonder if you might check the history: and also see what was originally on the page, which may be of interest. Thanks, Ian Spackman (talk) 11:01, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- I restored all the history and figured it out. Someone else created the page, then blanked it, then Closedmouth deleted it on July 11. You came along and re-created it about an hour later. Then I came along later in the day and re-deleted it since I was using the same list Closedmouth had been working off of. Sorry for the confusion. MBisanz talk 17:21, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, that explains it. Thanks! Ian Spackman (talk) 18:23, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
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WP:AN/B archives
Hello. I think that these two actions [5] [6] moved the same five threads to two different archives. I thought about MfDing the latter archive as non-controversial housekeeping, but I decided to come to you first (the topic of that page is explosive and I am not eager to get fried). Did you do those edits for a reason that I haven't grasped? Xeriphas1994 (talk) 02:43, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm, don't remember why I did that, I've gone ahead and deleted the latter. MBisanz talk 02:52, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- Great to hear that I'm not going senile, but even better to have helped improve the site's readability in a manner independent of the periodic schisms in editorial policy. Many thanks! Xeriphas1994 (talk) 20:13, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
More edit warring at RfAr
[7]. Thanks. --Abd (talk) 20:41, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- We've noticed, and are keeping an eye on it. Any further edits of that nature - from anyone - will lead to a block. Hersfold (t/a/c) 21:40, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- I'm trying to understand. I added, originally, three names to the list. One of the editors removed his name, that was clearly a prohibited action. I restored the name accidentally, not realizing that this was effectively a revert, which would be edit warring to maintain legitimate text, which is prohibited, though a clerk could do it. It was removed by the editor again, then also the diff showing notice. Then there were warnings over edit warring, which seemed clear and understandable. Then I added another name, which from the other two names remaining would seem to be legitimate, and certainly wasn't edit warring unless there was some consensus to not add names, in which case, I'd have thought that the other two names would have been removed. This new name was then removed by WMC, no reason given except "you've been told not to do that," or something like that, which, to my knowledge, wasn't true. Did I do something contrary to policy or guidelines or consensus by adding the new names? I'd seen it done before, I thought.
- It's all totally silly, because the editors have been notified, so, unless a clerk restores the names, they can expect a motion to be added as parties, unless, again, ArbComm decides to discourage it, which would be perfectly legitimate. I would never dream of deliberate revert warring, it's contrary to what I represent (but I did one bald revert in May, which only means that I'm willing to try odd things to break a logjam. Not to push them.) --Abd (talk) 22:53, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Thank You
Hi MBisanz
Thank you for welcoming me. Would you say finding an adopter is a better option, or getting articles reviewed by editors is more beneficial. My writing skills are fairly good, however you are correct in assuming I am new to the world of wiki writing!
Cerealbox (talk) 10:40, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
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File permission problem with File:NC_PlacemarksEditor.png
What is the purpose of this note on my talk page about an image I had uploaded? This is a screenshot from a software that I wrote myself. So I am certainly the copyright holder by any interpretation of the word. Cush (talk) 06:53, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
- It didn't say you wrote it, so I couldn't know, thank you for clarifying. MBisanz talk 07:05, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
- It says "The placemarks editor window of my NC Manager software", and you could have first looked at my user page as well. Cush (talk) 10:19, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
- And many people over time have thought "I own the CD that cam in the box, so it is mine", also thinking of people who would re-use your image, I've added a note to the image page that you are the creator of the software. MBisanz talk 18:43, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
- I don't know, but I would consider the re-usability of a software screenshot pretty limited. This seems more like a case of overzealous adminship to me... and reading through this talk page somehow confirms my impression... Cush (talk) 20:39, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
BTW, what does "It is sourced to someone other than the uploader" mean? Cush (talk) 20:58, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- It means that it looks like someone other than the uploader owns the software. For reuse purposes, image pages stand on their own and should convey all needed information to ascertain the copyright status. An image of a commercial-grade software program is presumed to be owned by a company unless there is information that the uploader is the owner. In this case I took the phrase "my NC Manager software" to mean you owned the CD the software came on and that it was unclear who owned the software itself. MBisanz talk 21:05, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- Should you not investigate such an issue before you throw in tags and make claims you cannot substantiate? If I submit an image and select a copyright option for it, who are you to challenge that? Reading through this page it seems to me you delight in tagging other editor's material and then just wait how they react. I really think you should use more diligence and caution before you basically accuse someone of copyright infringement. Cush (talk) 22:01, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- Any user can request clarification on an unclear source. I did investigate by looking at the image page and the upload history and it was still unclear. I do many things here including reviewing images for licensing issues. MBisanz talk 02:21, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- Why do you do that? Are you the wikilawyer? If you think you have grounds to challenge anybody's copyright claims, then bring on your claims and substantiate them. Lack of information on your part is insufficient. If you have no evidence that I stole your material how dare you assail me? The licensing tag says "I, the copyright holder of this work, hereby release it into the public domain." I think that is clear enough. You have in fact called me a liar. Cush (talk) 06:33, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- I've started a thread at Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions#Required_information. MBisanz talk 02:25, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Categories
Thanks for cleaning up after my sloppy work. Steve Smith (talk) (formerly Sarcasticidealist) 17:13, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
I took that myself, but you can go ahead and delete it. Don't see much of a purpose for it. Pacific Coast Highway {spring • ahead} 17:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
ill
Type A flu. Severely ill. Sorry. Tony (talk) 06:44, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi, MBisanz! I am kinda wondering why the above file was deleted. I took it from my screen and uploaded it in order to demonstrate a font irregularity. I thought I filled out the right info to release it but guess I didn't. Can you help? Basket of Puppies 21:04, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- It was tagged by User:Nyttend, so best to ask him. MBisanz talk 21:10, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for the warm welcome. I'm sure the pages you gave me will be helpful.Supportstorm (talk) 04:27, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
File permission problem with File:JessicaMaeStoverHollywoodAwards.jpg
Earlier today I sent in a permission email for both photos in question on this page clarifying the copyright issue. Thx. Redwing2 (talk) 05:22, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
File permission problem with File:Bluegrass1.jpg
I noticed you tagged this file and left me a talk page message. This file was made so long ago I forgot about it. I made it entirely myself for a snaphot of an image from Windows Live software. In other words I drew the lines on the photo. I really don't give a hoot about this file one way or the other. I thought it would be a good addition to the article where it was first posted but them others came and imitated what I had done and claimed the image themselves. Not the actual image but similar ones they made. They took the idea but ideas can't be copyrighted. Wikipedia's policies on images are so complicated it make them hard to understand.
- That's ok. My main issue was with the original image from MS Live, since they owned that copyright, but thanks for letting me know the details. MBisanz talk 23:07, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Attilios is still in the process of uploading the coats of arms under the dubious GFDL claim- see his contributions logs here. I have reminded him to add his thoughts to the discussion. J Milburn (talk) 22:23, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'll try to keep an eye out. MBisanz talk 22:34, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
File:Love Letters poster.jpg
Hi, I have re-downloaded this and sent the required email to "permissions", which I had accidentally forgotten to do. Thanks for the reminder. Captainclegg (talk) 22:53, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
The National Monument to the U.S. Constitution
HelpMe: Please remove the deletion of this photo as permission has been sent to wikimedia. Re: [Ticket#2009071010008766] Agreement to allow Wikimedia to use contnet of our WEB site www.spiritoffreedomtour.org --Lawrence Creeger (talk) 04:34, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
File permission problem with File:MoiraCrone_Author.jpg
I didn't know how to edit the file page to indicate the information that was requested originally. The fact is I don't speak WIKI. But the photo in question is a legitimate photo owned by Moira Crone, taken by photographer Owen Murphy, and I uploaded it from my computer because I am Ms. Crone's husband. I can provide contact information for Moira Crone as needed but I do believe the photo is being used legitimately here. However I saw some sort of threatening note saying that if I uploaded something again you'd cut my head off or something and so now I feel quite intimidated. Tapirfoot (talk) 19:40, 19 July 2009 (UTC) [User:tapirfoot]
File:Bently nevada.jpg
Can you undelete this image File:Bently nevada.jpg - we have permission on OTRS Ticket#: 2009071410060657 for CC-BY-SA-3.0. --Zureks (talk) 19:22, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
- Sure,
Done. Its locked to you, so I'll leave it to you to send the thank you note. MBisanz talk 20:20, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much for the offer. Unfortunately, I will be inactive for tomorrow, and it's almost midnight here. So I will review relevant policies and accept/decline the nomination then, if that's okay. Thanks again :) - Kingpin13 (talk) 22:43, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
- Sounds great. MBisanz talk 22:48, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
- I've accepted, thanks :). I'll now spam all the noticeboards. Also, thanks for approving SDPatrolBot, I'll be doing some coding later on today so it will be off until then. - Kingpin13 (talk) 07:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Deletion review for Red Sox-Rays rivalry
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Red Sox-Rays rivalry. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. (Not the nominatior, just notifying you.) Joe (talk) 03:41, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you. MBisanz talk 08:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Upper division college
BorgQueen (talk) 05:56, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
RFC closure
Ah yes. I presume an uninvolved party is also not a participant; is that correct? I'd like to complete the summary in so far as it will properly reflect the opinion, though, before this happens. It's an RFC, not a poll, of course, so opinions expressed count as well as the predetermined categories. I have to go to bed. Tony (talk) 18:32, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- Right, basic rule of thumb is that anyone who has edited the page or whose views on the topic are otherwise well known, cannot close the RFC. MBisanz talk 18:34, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- Ta. I'm searching for someone now. Tony (talk) 06:14, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- Matthew, thanks for your kind words on my talk page. Day 11 and partially recovered; it will take a few days to get back into things. Tony (talk) 12:04, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Ta. I'm searching for someone now. Tony (talk) 06:14, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Do administrators respond?
I did post in the discussion section [of the ADHD arbitration discuss area but no one has responded. [8] These were important points that needed clarification. Do administrators involved with the case normally respond to such questions?--scuro (talk) 23:40, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
- Requests for clarification should be posted at Wikipedia:A/R#Requests_for_clarification. MBisanz talk 23:43, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
- One more question if I may, what is the purpose of the discussion section?--scuro (talk) 03:14, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
- Well it is to discuss things among the participants of the case and about the case. Also, none of your sentences ended with a "?", so I think it might have been that people thought you were merely stating your opinion that no one read the evidence and not asking if it had been read. MBisanz talk 05:30, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
- I've posted questions but have not received a response. How do you know if a response is coming or if arbitration will not respond for whatever reason?--scuro (talk) 13:58, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- If they don't respond, then they feel what was done was sufficient. You can always file a formal request for clarification if you want an official response. MBisanz talk 14:07, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- I've posted questions but have not received a response. How do you know if a response is coming or if arbitration will not respond for whatever reason?--scuro (talk) 13:58, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- Well it is to discuss things among the participants of the case and about the case. Also, none of your sentences ended with a "?", so I think it might have been that people thought you were merely stating your opinion that no one read the evidence and not asking if it had been read. MBisanz talk 05:30, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
- One more question if I may, what is the purpose of the discussion section?--scuro (talk) 03:14, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
File:Beeching.jpg
Would it be possible for you to restore this image - File:Beeching.jpg - which you recently deleted? I will ensure that the template is properly completed to reflect the fact that it is a "historically significant fair use image"? Many thanks. Lamberhurst (talk) 07:55, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Done MBisanz talk 08:58, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Many thanks. Lamberhurst (talk) 20:16, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Typo
at WT:RFA: it's User:Lustiger_seth ("happy seth" or "jolly seth"), not Seth_Lustiger. Just sayin. - Dank (push to talk) 16:09, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
deletion
y did u delete Kumarathunga Munidasa?? sure there were some copyright material there.. but there were more than that there written by many people. but would u delete an article of a person like Charlotte Brontë bcos of copy right??? this man was not only a great writer but also a great scholar, a leader in the national independence movement in Sri Lanka! one of those people who's books everyone reads from childhood to death, and who's work is in school text books! he more than deserves a space in wiki!--Svm1 63 (talk) 04:27, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
File:Frescography Mediterranean1.jpg
I informed on my talkpage [9]] that the permission has been confirmed by right owner. (OTRS-Ticketnumber 2009071210029892)[10]. Please undo deletion or let me know it you need further informtion.--Misterneu (talk) 20:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
I reloaded the image, seems to be ok now.--Misterneu (talk) 19:33, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Re: File permission problem with File:Welcometovti.png
I'm not sure I understand what the problem here is. This screenshot could have been made by anyone running VTI as it's the default screen; I don't see why knowing who actually made this specific copy matters (nor how I would figure out if I made it). I could upload the same image tomorrow with the tag that I made it and no one would ever know the difference. In other words I find this to be really ridiculous--there's no call for an obviously non-copyrightable image to have to go through this junk. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (talk) 05:07, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- That issue is that someone owns the copyright to that image and even if they don't enforce it, we still must respect it. MBisanz talk 00:35, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Question regarding Vaginoplasty JPG
On this page [[11]], you posted a warning about re-uploading this image. Our initial image was taken down due to copyright concerns with "invalid licnese". I admit to incorrectly and unkowingly but repeatedly posting images without obtaining a new license each time. I thought this was a one time process that was linked to each user and not necessarily to each image. I since corrected the problem by obtaining a new license. I assumed it is OK to proceed with uploading once this problem was corrected. Do you see or can you explain any reasons why line of thought is incorrect? Thank you for your time and attention. Otto Placik (talk) 17:44, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- Ahh, I figured it out. You put the license on the talk page of the English Wikipedia at File talk:Vaginoplasty.JPG, it needs to be placed on the image page of the file which is hosted at commons:File:Vaginoplasty.JPG. It only needs to be placed on each image once, but must be placed on every image uploaded. MBisanz talk 17:47, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the immediate response. Being a newbie, I seem to repeat the mistake of confusing Wikipedia with Wikimedia. I must be toggling between the pages and adding the license improperly. I wish there was a tutorial for this because I seem to have a problem with the two. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Otto Placik (talk • contribs) 18:32, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
May I just verify this with you, If I post a license on an image in Wikipedia it will not be transfered into Commons, but if I post a license onto an image in commons it will show on Wikipedia, correct? Thank you for your time and assistance. Otto Placik (talk) 18:41, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- Well, yes that is true for images on Commons. Some images haven't been moved yet to Commons, so they are still on Wikipedia. If you look at an image like File:Bisanz9.jpg, there is a little blue and red icon in the upper right corner that indicates it is on Commons. If you look at File:Bisanz8.jpg, you see there is no blue icon, meaning it is on Wikipedia. Using that icon is probably the best way to determine where an image is and where to post the license. MBisanz talk 19:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Aha! Nice tidbit. Thanks Otto Placik (talk) 02:27, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Regarding orphanded non-free images
Hi,
Please be a little careful when using semi-automated tools to carry out admin actions, for example if you delete images claimed to be unused non-free images it's a good idea to actually verify that they are in fact not used before deleting them. For example File:Vallavan ~ Front.png was in fact not orphaned when you deleted it (have restored it). --Sherool (talk) 00:32, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm, thanks for the note. Twinkle is supposed to check for that. I've dropped Azatoth a line. MBisanz talk 00:36, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
DYK congratulations!
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The 25 DYK Medal | |
I wanted to extend congratulations on behalf of the DYK community in recognition of passing the 25 DYK mark. Your thorough articles cover two main areas, two-year colleges and office buildings in the New York City area (several of which I have either worked in or frequently pass by), two rather disparate topics that often get short shrift. Keep up the great work and continue towards the next milestone at 50. Best wishes on this achievement. (P.S. Remember to add yourself to the other list of number of articles created at the bottom of WP:DYKLIST. Alansohn (talk) 19:26, 23 July 2009 (UTC) |
Question on AN/I
Hello. You softblocked an IP range for me earlier this week; What do we do if we need to add additional documentation for this user who is using a new set of IPs? Reopen the closed item, or open a new one with a link to the closed item? Thx... SpikeJones (talk) 22:51, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
- New one with link to old is the usual format. MBisanz talk 00:32, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Changes being made without discussion
Scuro continues to make changes without prior discussion. [12] Even though this point had been discussed extensively in the past. --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:08, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
- Enforcement of sanctions can be requested at WP:AE. MBisanz talk 19:51, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
File permission problem with File:Extremeaward.jpg
I'm not clear on the problem. I created the image file for use in Wikipedia, to give as an award to anyone who contributed to the (relatively inactive) Extreme Sports WikiProject, which I also created. It has not been published in any way, and is meant to be used on people's personal talk pages (like any other Wikipedia award is used). The other picture I made for the Wikiproject (File:Xsports1.jpg) falls into the same situation. All this is stated in brief on the summary page of the files themselves.
It's taken me longer to craft this response than to create those original images (4 years ago, I might add), so I'm not seeing the point of this exercise. Is Wikipedia running so low on space that admins are looking to delete 29kb from inactive Wikiprojects? My image has the exact same description "self made" as this one. Perhaps I should ask some other administrator to flag that image for speedy deletion, because there's "no proof that the creator of the file agreed to license it under the given license." Michael (talk) 21:13, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
File permission problem with File:Blasphemy1.PNG
Hello, I don't believe I uploaded the file that you mentioned in your message. Sorry! Homagetocatalonia (talk) 06:01, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
What happened on this AFD?
I've been going through cleaning up "orphaned" AFDs- usually ones that were closed but the action wasn't taken, and I came across International Teaching Seminars and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International Teaching seminars. Did you not delete it because it was moved, making it seem like the work was already done? If so, I'll delete it. If there was a bigger reason, I figured it was worth me coming and asking rather than simply deleting and being wrong. tedder (talk) 14:04, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
- My fault, I didn't notice the move. I've fixed it. Thanks for the note. MBisanz talk 03:32, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
- No problem. I've been going through and cleaning up old AFDs. tedder (talk) 03:53, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Re: deleted "File:Ev26221 KlyuchevskayaSopka.A2004012.0035.500m.jpg" (Deleted because "WP:CSD#F4". using TW)
The image File:Ev26221 KlyuchevskayaSopka.A2004012.0035.500m.jpg was recently deleted because of the uncertain licensing information. I doubt that this is appropriate, as the image, most probably, is the result of transformation of the data available from NASA, which, IIUC, should be in the public domain. Please consider, e. g.:
- https://lpdaac.usgs.gov/lpdaac/products/modis_policies — LP DAAC MODIS policy;
- https://lpdaac.usgs.gov/lpdaac/products/modis_products_table/surface_reflectance/daily_l2g_global_1km_and_500m/v5/terra — the MODIS product the image might be derived from;
- https://wist.echo.nasa.gov/ — the inventory tool.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure about the image origins, and I'm having trouble finding the logs for the file in question prior to its deletion. Is there a chance of identifying the original uploader and contacting him (her)?
— Ivan Shmakov (talk) 05:48, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
- I went and found the source and am restoring the image. MBisanz talk 06:54, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've brought the image back to the “Moderate-Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer” and “Imaging spectroscopy” pages. Ivan Shmakov (talk) 11:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
File:Marine-raiders.jpg
In regards to this file, you deleted it based on WP:CSD#F11, which states "the item may be deleted seven days after notification of the uploader." I was never notified. Could you please undelete it and give me some time to track down the correct information. Thanks, Kingturtle (talk) 01:43, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
- Done and I added the correct information. MBisanz talk 02:02, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
- This is a perfect candidate for commons:Commons:PD_files, so I will move to commons. — Rlevse • Talk • 02:06, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll get on it tomorrow. Sincerely, Kingturtle (talk) 02:35, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of franchises established on Nintendo consoles
Hi. It looks like you weren't notified that your close of WP:Articles for deletion/List of franchises established on Nintendo consoles is being reviewed at WP:Deletion review/Log/2009 July 23#List of franchises established on Nintendo consoles. I am interested in any comments you may have. Thanks. Flatscan (talk) 03:08, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for your quick (immediate!) response. Flatscan (talk) 03:43, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Photo
Ask and ye shall receive, kind of. That's the closest thing to an action shot I have.--ragesoss (talk) 03:37, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
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File copyright problem with File:Anima SL.jpg
Hi, the entry associated with this image was deleted. Yet, they did not bother to delete the image and left it behind as an orphan. So I was trying to delete it, but only managed to remove the copyright information. I left a note for the image to be removed, so please do so. Thanks. Kazkura (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:33, 29 July 2009 (UTC).
Autoreviewer
Thanks for the upgrade per-say. I don't remember requesting this status, so exactly why have I been upgraded from a rollbacker to a rollbacker and autoreviewer? Just wondering, I was surprised by the change.--WillC 04:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
- Any new page that autoreviewer creates is automatically marked as patrolled. iMatthew talk at 10:56, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
- Yep, I saw you doing good work and decided we could flag your edits are automatically reviewed so people could focus on retiewing less experienced editors' work. MBisanz talk 11:39, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
- Alright, thanks.--WillC 22:22, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Also thanks for the confidence and trust, Matt. I think it's good to establish editor trust levels below that of admin, as not all of us need the admin behavioral tools but I think it does increase article quality and reduce the amount of resources needed and multiple checking that's done to allow non-admin editors to have lesser levels such as Rollbacker, Autoreviewer, and maybe Surveyor and Reviewer rights when flagged revs (in whatever version) become common. Thanks. — Becksguy (talk) 02:56, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the upgrade to autoreviewer! --Skizziktalk 20:41, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Could I ask you to take a look at the AfD on this as your actions on a previous AfD, now rehashed as part of this, on Alexander Fiske-Harrison have been questioned? When evaluating the Clive Fiske Harrison article it may be worth looking at the link to a series of sources in the comment I have added to the AfD discussion - they can also be found [13]. I also think your business background may give a better evalution there (the lead financial journalist for The Times does not say, "one person whose views I respect" for no reason, nor does the City editor of the London Evening Standard quote them, nor does Debrett's Distinguished People of Today give them an entry for their work in business. In this area, notability is very definitely not synonymous with celebrity.) --Fiskeharrison (talk) 10:25, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
- I may stop by yet, but it looks well trafficked already. MBisanz talk 00:24, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
FYI
Someone asked me about Beta's IRC bots at User talk:Hersfold#RE: Betacommand. Beta, Rjd, and I have already responded that they're not an issue, as are his bots & tools on other projects, but I figured I should let you know just in case you had something to add. Hersfold non-admin(t/a/c) 18:49, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm confused
Re your message to me about File:Golden kiwi ticket.jpg. You said : "I noticed that while you provided a valid copyright licensing tag, there is no proof that the creator of the file agreed to license it under the given license.". So I, as the photographer who created the the image, as clearly explained in the upload file, am not the creator of the file? Moriori (talk) 09:03, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
- I understand you may have created the file. What I am not certain of is if you own the copyright to the piece of paper you took the photo of. It appears the copyright would be owned by the New Zealand Lotteries Commission and unless you can show that both the underlying subject is in the public domain and that you release your photograph of it to the public domain, it would not have permission from all copyright holders. Hope that helps. MBisanz talk 09:08, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
- Not really. I could go through all of the steps needed to get an OK. But, much easier to simply junk it. Moriori (talk) 21:55, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Your FLC nomination
Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of City University of New York institutions/archive1 has seen some recent comments, along with an !oppose. Closures are scheduled for Saturday, so if you have time to address them, please do so. Regards, Matthewedwards : Chat 05:13, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
- Oooh! Didn't see that. I'll get to it tonight. MBisanz talk 08:57, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Licence for the image
I do not see what is the problem with this image licence: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/File:Dnevnik.jpg - I am author of that picture and I clearly stated that it is "self made" and used "PD-self" tag for it, so what else you want me to do? PANONIAN 11:17, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, I saw your previous discussion with other user here, so, if I understand correctly, you are concern whether I had a permission to take a photo of that newspaper frontpage, right? Well, I did not had any permission from anybody - I just bought that newspaper in the shop and took its picture, so, if you consider that a problem, then delete the image (it is bad image anyway since it is too blur and it is not a photo that I could be proud of for creating it). PANONIAN 15:02, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
- Ahh, that clarifies it. Well I see the relevant article has no image whatsoever, and if I changed the license from PD to Fairuse, it could be used. Would you like me to do that? MBisanz talk 15:06, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
- Well, the image is already deleted, but whatever - as I said, it was image with bad quality, so if I create any other image of this newspaper in the future then we can discuss its proper licence. PANONIAN 20:35, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
- Ahh, that clarifies it. Well I see the relevant article has no image whatsoever, and if I changed the license from PD to Fairuse, it could be used. Would you like me to do that? MBisanz talk 15:06, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
CSDify
Thanks for your help with the withdraw. Thanks. AHRtbA== Talk 18:07, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
G'day MB
The temperature seems to be rising on the 'case request' page about risker and geogre - could you have a look at archiving / collapsing / resolving it? - the arb votes seem pretty established? - there may be a 'more harm than good' case to think about for the text remaining. I've mentioned to Durova that I find her posts there rude, and I think for that, and probably other reasons, it's sort of bubbling up as a problem... cheers, Privatemusings (talk) 21:52, 31 July 2009 (UTC)oh, and thanks in advance for any time and attention :-)
- I did stuff. MBisanz talk 23:36, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
- coolio :-) - ps. I just noticed that there's a request in to clarify something about my case (I wonder if anyone was going to drop me a note? ;-) - anywhoo... I saw you recused - if it's a 'geez, I really can't be bothered to deal with anything PM related right now' then that's cool - but I thought it might be worth noting that from my perspective, I don't think it's a big deal who 'clerks', and I certainly wouldn't be calling for your recusal, though I'd be sure to pipe up if I thought you were bungling at all - worringly enough, I've been finding your posts and contributions rather sensible for a little while :-) Privatemusings (talk) 00:08, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Quick question
Hey just wondering, what does "changed rights for User:Salavat from (none) to Autoreviewers (+trusted)" mean exactly. Salavat (talk) 14:14, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
- It means that when you create new pages, the system will automatically flag them as "patrolled" so that users reviewing new pages won't need to spend time looking at them. Basically a way of saying you are competent enough that I trust you to create new pages. MBisanz talk 20:41, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks for that. Salavat (talk) 03:04, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Obama article amended remedy
Hey there - I notice you've archived the Obama probation Arbcom case remedy amendment proposal[14] (not sure how to order those seven nouns), recorded the amendment to the decision,[15] and notified the affected parties. However, to clear up a potential ambiguity, you may want to note (if true) that the time periods of the amended sanctions run from the date of the original decision rather than the date of the amendment, i.e. six months or one year from 21 June 2009, not from 2 August 2009. Thanks, Wikidemon (talk) 17:57, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
File permission problem with File:MichaelLaughton.jpg
Hi, please delete file. — PM Poon (talk) 18:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
File:Paloh2003.jpg
Done Dr. Blofeld White cat 22:04, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Damn you're quick. Good work. MBisanz talk 22:05, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Hehe, we have to be to get anywhere on here! So dang much to do!! Hey don't forget Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Kotbot 4. I don't want to have to resort to creating inferior stubs manually!! Have a good day, regards Dr. Blofeld White cat 22:08, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Nice one buddy. Dr. Blofeld White cat 10:46, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
File:ColoradoWyoming2007192.jpg
This is a good enough picture that I'd be willing to do a little work to keep it; do you know if there's a way to contact the Photobucket uploader to ask for permission to release this under a free license? I tried to see the uploader's gallery, but it's been long enough since I last used Photobucket that I did something wrong, and I got a "window won't display" error. Nyttend (talk) 00:32, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
- I did some digging and found that User:Photomnt uploaded another version under a claim of PD-self that was deleted as a duplicate image, and that matches the photobucket URL string, so I restored that image and redirected your upload to it. MBisanz talk 00:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
- My upload? Nyttend (talk) 05:01, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
- Ooof! Photomnt's other upload. MBisanz talk 09:01, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
- My upload? Nyttend (talk) 05:01, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Kaila
It states clearly that my permission is here, but if it has to be deleted, by all means, go ahead. ★Dasani★ 00:38, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
File:Marianela Núñez seven deadly sins.jpg
Hi, thanks for the heads up, looks like someone changed the Summary on my picture, I have replaced it with a link to the cc image on flickr. I ought to move it to commons. Scillystuff (talk) 19:40, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
- Ahh, thank you, that is perfect. MBisanz talk 23:30, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
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Is it Wikipedia's policy to discourage the use of photos in articles?
The process for uploading images and certifying permissions at Wikipedia seems to have been designed by lawyers for lawyers, and I doubt it is making anyone happy except the lawyers. On uploading Gladstein,jpg and Barbarabranden.jpg, I received a demand for permission directly from the copyright holders. I obtained permission by email from Dr. Gladstein and Ms. Branden, respectively, and forwarded it promptly to the address mentioned in the demand: permissions-en@wikimedia.org. Yet after one week both images were deleted anyway, without any communication from that address as to what was defective in the permissions.
Is there any point in emailing permissions to that address? Does a human being review them there, or do they pile up ignored, while the automatic deletion machine keeps running?
If Wikipedia doesn't want images in articles, it should announce that this is its policy.-RLCampbell (talk) 14:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
- No! We do want images! I will look into what occurred here as it is not what should have occurred. MBisanz talk 14:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for helping out with these. There is still a major need for simplifying and clarifying the image uploading and clearance process. The present system is pretty well designed to protect Wikipedia from being sued (obviously a serious concern), very poorly designed to help editors bring in material that will enhance Wikipedia articles and will not result in any legal problems.-RLCampbell (talk) 15:40, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Image deletions
You destroyed my work? That's extreme, and that's vandalism. I propose deleting the text of every page that you've edited unless you email permissions-en@wikimedia.org with a copy of every edit you made claiming copyright and listing the original publication. Ojw (talk) 07:35, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sorry you feel that way. I would be more than happy to talk with you further about a specific image. MBisanz talk 23:17, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Temp review
Hi, you closed an AfD on Serpentine Avenue with delete. Any chance you could restore this article temporarily so I can see how to overcome the objections rather than me starting the article again from scratch? Thank you! --HighKing (talk) 12:45, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, the same for Pembroke Road, thank you! --HighKing (talk) 12:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
- I emailed you the 2 articles. MBisanz talk 23:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
- Got 'em, thanks. --HighKing (talk) 00:20, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- I emailed you the 2 articles. MBisanz talk 23:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Assistance
Hi Matt,
I am fairly new to Wiki and would love your assistance on correcting a small error I made with the links on On The Bench. Any other tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Lgoodall —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lgoodall (talk • contribs) 17:55, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Would you help me in re-creating the Darryl Leiter web page?
Hello Matt,
I am relatively new to Wikipedia and have I have just become aware that my page titled Darryl Leiter was deleted on the basis that it appeared not satisfy the WP:PROF criteria. I wish to point out that this was not a fair decision since, as shown by the short summary of my vita listed below, the quality of my research and teaching career most certainly satisfies the WP:PROF criteria. Based on this fact would you help and advise me as to how re-create the Darryl Leiter page the content of which would be the short summary of my vita listed below? Thank you for your help with this matter and I look forward to reading your replies.
Dr. Darryl Leiter University of Virginia djl2b@virginia.edu
SHORT SUMMARY OF CURRICULUM VITA FOR DR. DARRYL LEITER
Dr. Darryl J. Leiter obtained his Ph.D. in Theoretical Physics from Brandeis University in 1964. During the15 year period from 1964 to 1979 as an associate professor of physics he taught undergraduate and graduate courses in physics at Boston College, University of Windsor, Central Michigan University, and George Mason University. During the 1979-1981 and 1992-1994 time periods he was a Senior Research Associate at the National Aeronautic Space Agency, Goddard Space Flight Center. He has published more than 50 key research papers in a number of fields, including elementary particle theory, relativity and gravitational theory, quantum mechanics, and x-ray astronomy, in journals such as Annals of Physics, Physical Review, American Journal of Physics, Nature, Astrophysical Journal. Recently he published a book The A to Z of Physicists. New York: Facts on File, 2003, which is an encyclopedia of biographies of 150 great physicists, including explanations of their contributions written at level which can be understood by high school students.
Currently Dr Darryl Leiter is a research astrophysicist affiliated with the University of Virginia and the National Radio Astronomy Observatory in Charlottesville Virginia. He is currently collaborating with an astrophysical team at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center For Astrophysics that is performing research leading to the development a new theory of quasar structure involving Magnetospheric Eternally Collapsing Objects (MECO). In a series of nine seminal published papers by Darryl Leiter, Stanley Robertson, and Rudolph Schild listed below, quantitative observational and theoretical arguments have been given supporting the existence of intrinsically Magnetospheric Eternally Collapsing Objects (MECO), which contain strong intrinsic equipartition magnetic fields in lieu of event horizons. These papers were the first to offer observational and theoretical evidence, based General Relativity and The Strong Principle of Equivalence, that: a) MECO could exist in the Universe and, b) Active Galactic Nuclei actually contained MECO instead of Black Holes.
1. "Evidence for Intrinsic Magnetic Moments in Black Hole Candidates", S. Robertson and D. Leiter, Astrophysical J., 565, 447 (2002),
2. "Does the Principle of Equivalence Prevent Trapped Surfaces From being Formed in the General Relativistic Collapse Process?", D. Leiter, A. Mitra and S. Robertson, (2001),
3. "Does the Principle of Equivalence Prevent Trapped Surfaces From being Formed in the General Relativistic Collapse Process?", D. Leiter and S. Robertson, Foundations of Physics Lett., Vol. 16, pp.143 (2003),
4. "On Intrinsic Magnetic Moment in Black Hole Candidates", S. Robertson and D. Leiter, Astrophysical J. Lett., 596, L203 (2003),
5. "On the Origin of the Radio/X-Ray Luminosity Correlation in Black Hole Candidates", S. Robertson and D. Leiter, Mon. Not. Roy. Astron. Soc., 350, 1391, (2004),
6. "Robertson, S., & Leiter, D., ApJ, 565, 447,(2002),
7. "Robertson, S., & Leiter, D., ApJ, 596, L203,(2003),
8. "Robertson, S., & Leiter, D., MNRAS, 350, 139, (2004),
9. "Schild, R., Leiter, D., & Robertson, S., AJ, 132, 420, (2006),
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.62.152.89 (talk) 21:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Conf.
Matt, how did your conference presentation go? Were there questions? Tony (talk) 17:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
- My presentation wasn't that good, lack of preparation time, other speakers who were better, etc. The impromptu presentation I led on the topic of "What is left to write about" went much better. We identified some systemic issues, ways of approaching them, etc. I hope the video is posted soon. MBisanz talk 23:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, I can't imagine it wasn't interesting and worthwhile from your notes; speakers themselves are often the most critical of their performance. Cheers. Tony (talk) 12:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- Let me know if you post some links. It would be interesting to check out (and to critique :). ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:07, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, I can't imagine it wasn't interesting and worthwhile from your notes; speakers themselves are often the most critical of their performance. Cheers. Tony (talk) 12:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
You tagged this as No permission, but isn't that implied in the self tags?
Granted this might be deletable for other reasons. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 15:49, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- The PD-self tag does imply that. But given that the uploader had an ill-intentioned purpose in uploading it, that the name in the file name does not match the-uploader's name, and that the picture was taken at work and we don't know if it was taken as part of a company promotion (since the uploader never says "I took it of my friend"), I tagged it. MBisanz talk 16:53, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
You have tagged this image as no-permission, i see no evidence on the Image page suggest anything against a self claim?
Care to explain why you seem to be tagging images for no-permission which are self tagged?
If there's an issue, try nominating them to WP:PUI instead.
Sfan00 IMG (talk) 16:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- Also, a copyvio at [16], thanks for the reminder on PUI though. MBisanz talk 17:01, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Please explain why this is tagged as no-permission, when I can't see any evidence on the page to suggest anything other than a 'self'. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 16:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- Um, it is a copyvio of an actor's headshot mashed with another image. You can see a version of the original at [17]. MBisanz talk 16:57, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Removal of PROD from PCBoard Programming Executable
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Deletion of page the_quietus
As referred to here http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/The_Quietus
Hi MBisanz. Re. the deletion of the page referring to UK music website The Quietus. I have prepared a collection of references and links substantiating the information in the deleted article.
Quietus winning Student Choice award at UK Industry Record of the Day Awards: http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:http://www.nme.com/news/the-clash/41357
Commentary on Metallica event explaining why The Quietus was the origin of the story, including Metallica apologising to The Quietus. Further sources are also available. Wired.com reports on Metallica incident featuring interview with Quietus editor: http://www.wired.com/listening_post/2008/06/metallica-kills/ Wired magazine interview with Quietus editor regarding incident: http://www.wired.com/listening_post/2008/06/pasture-of-mupp/ Metallica apologise to the Quietus: http://www.metallica.com/index.asp?item=600942
Since then, there have been other notable events where the Quietus has led or broken stories, I have URL and Wikipedia references if required. The Quietus is increasingly discussed online on many music blogs and websites. Again, do please contact me for references.
I would be grateful if you could reinstate the Quietus page at your earliest convenience, but please do not hesitate to contact us with any questions you might have —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.162.248 (talk) 16:30, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- I was simply the closer of the AFD and do not actually evaluate the article. I have asked Lankiveil to look at this since s/he did comment on the contents and would be more familiar with it. MBisanz talk 15:09, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Copyright for the picture at http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/File:Anil_aggrawal%27s_internet_journal_of_forensic_medicine_and_toxicology.jpg
Dear Matt, Many thanks for your kind message. This picture was created by me, and I have sent an Email as suggested by you. Please let me know, if I have to do anything else. Warm Regards Anil Aggrawal
15:10, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
re BC mentorship
I assume that you are aware of this and have concluded that it does not violate BC's terms, especially section 2 and the various subsections ii) and iii). Cheers, LessHeard vanU (talk) 19:53, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I was aware of it. My thought was that it does not exist on en.wiki (I can't delete it for instance), it does not edit en.wiki, and it's output isn't something that explicitly would lead to an edit by another person in the same way this page would. Does that seem like a fair assessment? MBisanz talk 20:17, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- Fair enough. I could see that some people may have had the concerns I had, and might also question how it might impinge on his terms. Since it is not covered by the terms then his advocacy for the tool is also fine. LessHeard vanU (talk) 21:03, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Is it possible that one of your bots can tag all the project article as stub-class which have the motorcycling stub {{Motorcycle-stub}} in the articles for our recently formed assessment department? I estimate about 500+ articles use the stub. If you are not the best person to deal with this, please advise me. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 20:29, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- I believe User:Anomie is much more skilled than me in this area. MBisanz talk 20:31, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the speedy reply. ww2censor (talk) 20:35, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Requesting clerk assistance
Hersfold has been clerking the Abd-WMC case but he's out for another week or so (the break from that noisy case will doubtless be good for his sanity...) In the meantime banned User:Nrcprm2026 has submitted evidence as the CU confirmed sockpuppet User:Navy Physics Geek. Could you strike that evidence please? Thanks - Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 21:58, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- Handled. MBisanz talk 22:07, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Follow-up on Teleprompter usage by Barack Obama
As you closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Teleprompter usage by Barack Obama, you might be interested in WP:ANI#Editors failing to abide by AFD consensus at Public image of Barack Obama. – Luna Santin (talk) 23:28, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I'm really not interested in it, but I've commented anyway. MBisanz talk 23:35, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- What, you don't want to be haunted by every AfD you've ever closed? ;) – Luna Santin (talk) 23:58, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- I guess I can accept that, as long as I can haunt you for your equally large number of checkusers. MBisanz talk 00:06, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- What, you don't want to be haunted by every AfD you've ever closed? ;) – Luna Santin (talk) 23:58, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Relative
I actually am impressed by your work with cleaning up images. Keep up the good work. Are you related to Durin? :-) -OberRanks (talk) 01:58, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Nope, I wish, I am just User:MBisanz/Infobox. MBisanz talk 02:13, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
US Airways Express image
Hello,
The article US Airways Express is on my watch list, and I noticed that the ImageRemovalBot removed the US Airways Express logo from the article, stating that the image had been deleted. Upon checking the deletion log for the image, I saw that the rationale for deletion was F5, regarding orphaned images. The image, however, could not have been orphaned because it was in fact being used in the US Airways Express article.
So, I'm wondering if this was just a glitch, or if there was some other reason why the image was deleted (e.g., incorrect license or file summary).
Thanks, —BMRR (talk) 02:14, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- It seems the image system was a bit out of sync due to the Toolserver database being re-imported, I'm checking some things now. MBisanz talk 02:17, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, I went back and found where Bjweeks bot was using bad data to tag thing, I've undeleted and restored all the affected images. MBisanz talk 02:35, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks! —BMRR (talk) 02:36, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Can you help me improve an article so it becomes notable?
Can you help? please visit my User Page. (OMGILOVEPEAS (talk) 03:16, 7 August 2009 (UTC))
Re: File:STHeadingBearingIMG.jpg
You say the creator of the image didn't give permission to upload this file - Well I AM the creator of the image. I even state that under the image "Created in 3D Studio and Photoshop CS by Cyberia23 for illustrative purposes." But really I'm not going through the BS to prove it because the image isn't even being used anymore anyway - the article it was part of was deleted so feel free to delete it too. Cyberia23 (talk) 04:25, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- My reason for tagging was the part about Paramount owning the copyright to the designs. I took that to mean you used a template in 3D Studio and dropped their designs into it. If that is not the case, I can untag the image. MBisanz talk 04:43, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- The 3D models weren't made by me, they were taken off a website. Been a while so I don't remember what the site is anymore. I'm not sure what the copyright for that would be or if they are even copyrighted. The site has all kinds of spaceship models from Trek to Star Wars and I think they are all fan made. Anyway this image isn't even being used anymore, the article it was part of was deleted. It's now an orphan file, so if you want to delete it go ahead. Cyberia23 (talk) 04:51, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Ahh, ok, I understand now. Thanks. MBisanz talk 04:56, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- The 3D models weren't made by me, they were taken off a website. Been a while so I don't remember what the site is anymore. I'm not sure what the copyright for that would be or if they are even copyrighted. The site has all kinds of spaceship models from Trek to Star Wars and I think they are all fan made. Anyway this image isn't even being used anymore, the article it was part of was deleted. It's now an orphan file, so if you want to delete it go ahead. Cyberia23 (talk) 04:51, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
New request for clarification on Obama arbcom case
Hi - I've filed a new request here and could use some help notifying User:ChildofMidnight, with whom I am enjoined from having any contact. Thanks. Wikidemon (talk) 05:04, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Given he's commented at the new thread, I'll assume he is aware of it. MBisanz talk 14:21, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Images you deleted
- File:Yuri's Revenge Cover Art.jpg
- File:Redalert3.jpg
- File:RedAlert2Soundtrack.jpg
- File:CommandconquerCover.jpg
- File:MusicOfRedAlert.jpg
- File:CommandConquerTS Front Full.jpg
Your delete summary for these images was (Deleted because "WP:CSD#F5". using TW) However WP:CSD#F5 states: "Images and other media that are not under a free license or in the public domain, that are not used in any article, may be deleted after being identified as such for more than seven days."
These images clearly did not meet this criteria for a number of reasons:
1 - They had valid fair use claims
2 - They currently in use at Music of Command & Conquer which deals with the individual albums and is not a discography. See Music of Final Fantasy VII or any of the FF music articles for example of the format Music of Command & Conquer was being adapted to.
3 - The images where deleted before the required 7 day period after tagging the images was up. Infact, to my knowledge they where not tagged but simply deleted on a whim.
I therefore, kindly ask you to restore these images asap and would also request an explanation to why these images where deleted in the first place.
Thanks -- Cabe6403 (Talk•Sign) 01:09, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- If you look at the article in question, they have not been in it since this edit, so they were orphaned. Also, I am aware you cannot see the deleted revision, but I have re-checked each deleted image, and they were all tagged at least 7 days ago for deletion per WP:CSD#F5. And, it does not matter if there is a valid fair use claim, since any non-free images that are orphaned are deleted regardless of a claim. MBisanz talk 01:13, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- They where removed in that edit as the article was then Discography of Command & Conquer, consensus was that as a discography article it could not have images. I was in the process of moving the page over to Music of Command & Conquer which would mean the use of these images was permissible. I was just about to restore the images (thus making them no longer orphaned) when you deleted them. As such I would again ask you to restore the images so I can use them in Music of Command & Conquer. Thanks -- Cabe6403 (Talk•Sign) 15:28, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, all restored. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't taking sides in a content dispute. MBisanz talk 15:31, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- That's understandable, thank you for restoring the images
-- Cabe6403 (Talk•Sign) 16:07, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- That's understandable, thank you for restoring the images
- Ok, all restored. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't taking sides in a content dispute. MBisanz talk 15:31, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- They where removed in that edit as the article was then Discography of Command & Conquer, consensus was that as a discography article it could not have images. I was in the process of moving the page over to Music of Command & Conquer which would mean the use of these images was permissible. I was just about to restore the images (thus making them no longer orphaned) when you deleted them. As such I would again ask you to restore the images so I can use them in Music of Command & Conquer. Thanks -- Cabe6403 (Talk•Sign) 15:28, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
The Quietus
Sorry about the delay responding, I've been across the country at GLAM-WIKI and haven't had time for any hard wiki work the past few days. I'll investigate and see what I can remember, and respond directly to the user. Lankiveil (speak to me) 10:29, 8 August 2009 (UTC).
- Thanks. MBisanz talk 13:16, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Edit throttle
Maybe someone should be keeping a closer eye:
- [18], [19], [20], [21], [22] 5 in 10 minutes
- [23], [24], [25], [26], [27] 5 in 10 minutes
- [28], [29], [30], [31], [32] 5 in 6
- [33], [34], [35], [36], [37] 5 in 9
- [38], [39], [40], [41], [42], [43] 6 in 8, but 2 are from a user talk page not his own, but the restrictions don't specify that the editing throttle apply only to article space.
More than once he's missing hitting 6 by a single minute and he's already been mistaken for a bot once.--Crossmr (talk) 03:50, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- I agree this warrants further discussion/review. I have asked Hersfold and Betacommand to comment here. MBisanz talk 04:29, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- In this series of edits he has 9 in 20 minutes spread out in such a way that you can start in various 10 minute periods and get more than 4 in 10.
- 12:41, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Salvadori's Pheasant (+ image) (top)
- 12:39, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Pseudotropheus saulosi (+ image) (top)
- 12:38, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Plethodontohyla serratopalpebrosa (+ image) (top)
- 12:37, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Plethodontohyla coudreaui (+ image) (top)
- 12:31, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Plectropomus laevis (+ image) (top)
- 12:29, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Pallas's Fish-eagle (+ image) (top)
- 12:27, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Orinoco Softtail (+ image) (top)
- 12:24, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Olrog's Gull (+ image) (top)
- 12:21, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Northern Pudu (+ image) (top) this series overlaps with the 2nd example given above--Crossmr (talk) 08:20, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- In this series of edits he has 9 in 20 minutes spread out in such a way that you can start in various 10 minute periods and get more than 4 in 10.
- All three of these are issues. Some of it appears a week or so old, but other things are very fresh and need to be dealt with. Since Hersfold is on vacation and I want to make sure I don't act hastily, I have gone ahead and pung Roger Davies since he wrote the restrictions. MBisanz talk 13:15, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- Even if they're more than a week old, its a pattern of behaviour since his unblock and given the communities displeasure with him he shouldn't get a pass because it escaped notice. He was indef'd and unblocked but I don't know if arbcom was notified of that. I didn't see anything linked from the restrictions page. The tone of those restrictions seemed zero tolerance and to be honest I don't know why he was unblocked after violating his restrictions just 25 hours after being unbanned.--Crossmr (talk) 14:50, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- I agree there is a pattern here in his edits that must be looked at, that he must explain, and that I must decide what to do. I do think a few hours grace for him and hopefully Roger Davies to also comment will not prevent a conclusive outcome. MBisanz talk 14:56, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- Even if they're more than a week old, its a pattern of behaviour since his unblock and given the communities displeasure with him he shouldn't get a pass because it escaped notice. He was indef'd and unblocked but I don't know if arbcom was notified of that. I didn't see anything linked from the restrictions page. The tone of those restrictions seemed zero tolerance and to be honest I don't know why he was unblocked after violating his restrictions just 25 hours after being unbanned.--Crossmr (talk) 14:50, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- Ive been trying to abide by the rate limit. Yes I have slipped a few times, But I have recently developed a method to assist me in avoiding going over the limit. βcommand 23:37, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- That sounds ominously like a script. Frankly given your situation, you can't slip up at all. However in the month since you're unban you've got possibly up to 9 violations of your editing restrictions. 6 edit throttle, 2 reverts waiting for clarification, and 1 use of twinkle just 25 hours after your unban.--Crossmr (talk) 23:57, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- If you can call a set of timers a script your right. Please review the discussion about TW I did not realize at the time that the restrictions included it. As for the revert on the list page that same edit has been attempted several times and reverted by others. re-insertion of material like that is considered vandalism. βcommand 00:30, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- The only exception to your editing restriction is the reversion of "blatant vandalism" reinserting disputed material is not blatant vandalism. You have been here more than long enough to know that. It is a content dispute. Things which are vandalism are covered here. Nowhere on that list does it include repeatedly adding original research to an article. However here explicitly addresses Disruptive editing or stubbornness as not vandalism. As for twinkle, its a script. you weren't allowed to use scripts. I can't see how there is remotely any confusion there.--Crossmr (talk) 01:44, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- BC-learn the difference in disputed material and vandalism. This sort of behavior is what got you banned in the first place. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:47, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- The only exception to your editing restriction is the reversion of "blatant vandalism" reinserting disputed material is not blatant vandalism. You have been here more than long enough to know that. It is a content dispute. Things which are vandalism are covered here. Nowhere on that list does it include repeatedly adding original research to an article. However here explicitly addresses Disruptive editing or stubbornness as not vandalism. As for twinkle, its a script. you weren't allowed to use scripts. I can't see how there is remotely any confusion there.--Crossmr (talk) 01:44, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- If you can call a set of timers a script your right. Please review the discussion about TW I did not realize at the time that the restrictions included it. As for the revert on the list page that same edit has been attempted several times and reverted by others. re-insertion of material like that is considered vandalism. βcommand 00:30, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- That sounds ominously like a script. Frankly given your situation, you can't slip up at all. However in the month since you're unban you've got possibly up to 9 violations of your editing restrictions. 6 edit throttle, 2 reverts waiting for clarification, and 1 use of twinkle just 25 hours after your unban.--Crossmr (talk) 23:57, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Free-Image content work
I'd like clarification on this restrction subject to a 0RR restriction on any free-content-image-related work and related talk pages; and how it might relate to these two reverts: [44] and [45].--Crossmr (talk) 08:29, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- In addition around this incident, in a similar vein to one of the set of diffs above, we have talk on a user talk page over this image disput mixed with edits to hit 5 in 10 [46], [47], [48], [49], [50]. The last one gives me pause. he says he's reverting OS, but I think he means OR, but OR has never been considered blatant vandalism in any of the AN/I, 3RR, etc discussion I've read/taken part in. His only exception to his edit limit is reverting blatant vandalism.--Crossmr (talk) 00:04, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Already broken the restrictions
I also find it rather disturbing that he had in fact already broken his editing restrictions [51] only 25 hours after his unban and is already on yet another last chance. I'm adding this because I don't see a notice about it in your talk page archive. To me this is just too much. He's got at least 5 clear violations of his editing restrictions and already been given one chance in the middle of that to try it again.--Crossmr (talk) 10:29, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Hersfold's
Hersfold is away, but emailed me this comment over his phone for posting.
I have seen this, but unfortunately can't look at the diffs yet. I'll take a closer look Tues. I can assure you that we will work w/ Beta on this. However, please let the TW thing lie; it's been established that this was a misunderstanding which was unclear in the terms, it will not happen again, and is irrelevant to the question at hand. Thanks, and sorry for the delay. -Hersfold
Ping
Good luck. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 14:46, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks you :) MBisanz talk 14:47, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'm going to be away much of the day, but I've got this watchlisted and I'll check back tonight. Best of luck. - Dank (push to talk) 14:58, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- Found a computer to support. Good luck, Matt. iMatthew talk at 16:13, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'm going to be away much of the day, but I've got this watchlisted and I'll check back tonight. Best of luck. - Dank (push to talk) 14:58, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Clerk help needed
Hi. We could use clerk assistance re a problem raised here: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Abd-William M. Connolley/Workshop#Away. The workshop page is too large and a user can't load it into their browser.
I think I'm going to move comments that are within collapse boxes off the page. I think that will help with page loading. I think I'll replace them with diffs or links to page history containing the same information. I may also shorten some of Abd's comments. He has given me permission to do this in general: [52]. I would also include a link to the original comment. Please let me know if I shouldn't do either of these actions.
Thanks! ☺Coppertwig (talk) 15:04, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- Lemme take a whack at it first, give me about a dozen edits. MBisanz talk 15:07, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, that page is scarily long, I will leave it to you to carefully link-archive things since I do not understand the full context of the various proposals. MBisanz talk 15:08, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- Oops, I had forgotten to check back here for replies sooner. I've replaced a few collapse boxes with diff links and plan to do some more. The editor who had been having difficulty has been successfully posting, even before I did that, so I'm not sure how urgent it is. I'm reluctant to do much by myself because I'm an involved editor. If you would like to move some threaded discussions elsewhere (e.g. the talk page or a subpage) I suggest moving the threaded discussions beginning at each of the following, i.e. including the comments that follow and that are more deeply indented. I've tried to be objective in making these suggestions, but note that I'm an involved editor. I chose these primarily based on length of threaded discussion, with some attention paid to relevance. With the third one I had more difficulty choosing where is a good place to begin the cut:
- Starting at "Thanks Hersfold, I'm just frustrated with this because I take it as an insult."
- Starting at "My tinfoil hat always fits, it's designed that way"
- Starting at "I do hope you're not trying to imply the other editors involved in this case are incompetent"
- Starting at "Enric has confused a process of collecting a picture of current opinion or consensus with the process of making a decision."
- Starting at the collapse box "Original response by Abd to Bilby..."
- If you state your approval, I'll do this myself (if I have time), creating a subpage for the continuations of discussions unless you instruct otherwise, e.g. Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Abd-William M. Connolley/Workshop/Subpage 1.
- However, for the most part, looking over the page, it's just many discussions each of which is not terribly long. Perhaps the page could be divided into subpages? The three "motions" at the top could perhaps be moved to a subpage, and/or the "analysis of evidence" section at the bottom.
- I suggest that you could also post a comment to the effect that people should try to avoid threaded replies and to move discussions elsewhere. I've posted some replies where I simply said "I've replied here" and gave a link to where I replied on user talk; you could suggest to other users that they do that.
- Thanks for your help. ☺Coppertwig (talk) 16:06, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, it is trimmed to 540K, which should be manageable for a few days until Hersfold can get back. Since he and you and the others involved know more about it than I do, I would rather leave further trimming to him for the time being. MBisanz talk 17:49, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- OK, thanks! ☺Coppertwig (talk) 18:01, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, it is trimmed to 540K, which should be manageable for a few days until Hersfold can get back. Since he and you and the others involved know more about it than I do, I would rather leave further trimming to him for the time being. MBisanz talk 17:49, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- Oops, I had forgotten to check back here for replies sooner. I've replaced a few collapse boxes with diff links and plan to do some more. The editor who had been having difficulty has been successfully posting, even before I did that, so I'm not sure how urgent it is. I'm reluctant to do much by myself because I'm an involved editor. If you would like to move some threaded discussions elsewhere (e.g. the talk page or a subpage) I suggest moving the threaded discussions beginning at each of the following, i.e. including the comments that follow and that are more deeply indented. I've tried to be objective in making these suggestions, but note that I'm an involved editor. I chose these primarily based on length of threaded discussion, with some attention paid to relevance. With the third one I had more difficulty choosing where is a good place to begin the cut:
Me, autoreviewer
Thanks for this! --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 18:53, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Happy Fifth WikiBirthday
By the way, your RfB is looking great so far. :-) King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 06:46, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Abd-WMC
Hi. I notice that you've hived off Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Abd-William M. Connolley/Workshop/Motions. Does that imply that something is happening, and your are clerk in Hersfolds absence? If so, you may care about [53] William M. Connolley (talk) 08:38, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- No, nothing is happening. If you look 2 sections up on my page you will see there are some usability issues, so I broke it off to fix them. Hersfold will return to clerking when he gets back and I will try to muddle along and not break anything until then. MBisanz talk 08:54, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- Oh thanks, I'd missed that. Still, you touched it last so you get to deal with my diff if its needs any dealing :-) William M. Connolley (talk) 09:00, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Temporary case clerk need to cover Abd-WMC case
Hi there. You are listed as active at the clerks page. Would you be able to have a look here? I'm looking for one of the currently active clerks to look after the case for a few days until Hersfold is back? If one of the five clerks listed as active could volunteer, that would be great. Thanks. Carcharoth (talk) 18:06, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- Re the same case again: May I suggest that it may be appropriate to delete this comment: [54] There are times when humour is not appropriate. (Not sure if anonymous edits are allowed on case pages anyway.) ☺Coppertwig (talk) 20:05, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- Done. MBisanz talk 20:26, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks! ☺Coppertwig (talk) 20:34, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- Done. MBisanz talk 20:26, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Betacommand
DYK nomination of Bank of New England
Hello! Your submission of Bank of New England at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Smartse (talk) 20:45, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Deleted CMH Map
Well since I do not check Wikipedia very often, I see that you have deleted my CMH Map image. While I cannot check to verify, I believe I made it very clear that I made the image and uploaded it myself to Wikipedia. The hoops people now have to go through to put anything on wikipedia is defeating the purpose of Wikipedia. Eventually it will be so difficult for the average user to add anything that Wikipedia will only be edited by a couple hundred people, not much different than any other regular encyclopedia. I dedicated an absurd number of hours to adding genuine content to Wikipedia, but I have stopped in large part to crap like this. I understand the work needed to verify copyrights and other legal issues, but you are making it impossible. I know this is not just you, but it is the whole Wikipedia community. It is amazing that a website based on openness and free expression has become very closed and elitist. I could understand if it was some other image from the web, but I made the damn thing myself. Do you want a notary to sign off on it? Why don't I go get a certificate stating my copyright to the image? Oh wait, that wouldn't work because you would just delete that image based on not enough copyright info. Completely rediculous. Polypmaster (talk) 14:59, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Question
Is there a policy that allows for the deletion of RFA's? If so, could you please show me where this is, because I thought that all RFAs were kept for historical purposes. Could you please restore this page: Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Questchest. Thanks Kevin Rutherford (talk) 19:55, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- See MFDs at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/AbsolutDan, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/-jmac- and discussions at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship/Archive_128#Malformed_RFAs, Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship/Archive_174#Policy_on_malformed_RfAs, Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship/Archive_153#Preemptive_SNOW, Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship/Archive_138#Deleted_RfA. MBisanz talk 23:39, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. I just wasn't sure if they fell under a special exclusionary rule. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:44, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- It is more of a one-off case that isn't in policy, so feel free to let me know if you ever need any restored. MBisanz talk 23:46, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- I actually was wondering if that one had anyone opposing it. It appears that no one was, so you can go ahead and re-delete it if you want. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:49, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- It is more of a one-off case that isn't in policy, so feel free to let me know if you ever need any restored. MBisanz talk 23:46, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. I just wasn't sure if they fell under a special exclusionary rule. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:44, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
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File permission problem with File:FLVDownloaderMainWindowScreenshot.jpg
Hello MBisanz! This is a screenshot of a software program by BinaryMark that I created, so in effect I am the copyright holder for the screenshot. If there is something I must do, like change the license, please let me know, as I am realtively new to uploading content to Wikipedia. George585 (talk) 12:56, 15 July 2009 03:18, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Just a ping
Hello again, MBisanz … it's been one year since we tackled the articles mentioned in the documentation for {{Oldprodfull}} … you didn't have pictures of yourself on your User page back then … I don't recall if I mentioned it, but this is the identity that I gave up to live an anon life here. :-) Happy Editing! — 141.156.175.125 (talk · contribs) 11:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- Hey! Glad to see you are still around. I've missed running into you over the past couple of months. Hope all is well. MBisanz talk 23:44, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- My interests have waxed and waned … that whole Disorder-Formerly-Known-As-Manic-Depression … check out my What's New page for some animated GIF files and stuff that I've been doing with computers and chess … I also have an unpublished paper from 19 years ago, Necessity and Sufficiency in Computer Chess Algorithms, that I have updated with wikilinks … my contribution to the field was going to be Harrod's Chess Axiom. :-) — 141.156.175.125 (talk) 05:33, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- Wow that is synchronicity, I just made File:Raytracing reflection.png my new laptop background this week thinking "we need more images like this on Commons". MBisanz talk 06:06, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'm working my way up to doing multi-move animations … I have updated this page with the latest animation, a queen moving diagonally, replacing the image of a knight moving … and if you have the bandwidth, there's a 768x1024 version of it (10.5 Mbytes) that makes for Really Kewl desktop wallpaper. :-) — 141.156.175.125 (talk) 23:15, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- Wow that is synchronicity, I just made File:Raytracing reflection.png my new laptop background this week thinking "we need more images like this on Commons". MBisanz talk 06:06, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- My interests have waxed and waned … that whole Disorder-Formerly-Known-As-Manic-Depression … check out my What's New page for some animated GIF files and stuff that I've been doing with computers and chess … I also have an unpublished paper from 19 years ago, Necessity and Sufficiency in Computer Chess Algorithms, that I have updated with wikilinks … my contribution to the field was going to be Harrod's Chess Axiom. :-) — 141.156.175.125 (talk) 05:33, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Betacommand (8/12)
Just a note, but User:J Milburn's first comment at WT:NFCC#Toolserver query finding potential violations contains a link to two toolserver tools written by Betacommand that scan for the use of non-free content. I'm not sure if this violates term 2(i) or not, but it's certainly something his mentors should be aware of. — PyTom (talk) 15:06, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yep, I knew about it. Is my response at User_talk:MBisanz/Archive_10#re_BC_mentorship a fair one? MBisanz talk 17:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well, this is a little different from the Single IP Lookup tool, as it's directly associated with non-free content. [55] is far closer to the Wikipedia:Database reports/Possibly unreferenced biographies of living people page, as it's intended to lead directly to editing by others. (It even includes a feature to track who has edited in response to it.) So I think it's a different case than the Single IP Lookup tool. — PyTom (talk) 17:54, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
- Let me ping Hersfold and Roger as you may have an issue we need to look at more here. MBisanz talk 02:15, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
- Looking. Hersfold (t/a/c) 02:19, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
- I just sent an email to MBisanz and Roger about this; we'll figure things out shortly. Hersfold (t/a/c) 02:52, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
- Just an update that Hersfold and I are still talking via email. One thing we are getting stuck on is that toolserver is not on en.wiki and there is nothing we can do to stop a script running on toolserver. We will get back here when we know more. MBisanz talk 20:42, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
- Let me ping Hersfold and Roger as you may have an issue we need to look at more here. MBisanz talk 02:15, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well, this is a little different from the Single IP Lookup tool, as it's directly associated with non-free content. [55] is far closer to the Wikipedia:Database reports/Possibly unreferenced biographies of living people page, as it's intended to lead directly to editing by others. (It even includes a feature to track who has edited in response to it.) So I think it's a different case than the Single IP Lookup tool. — PyTom (talk) 17:54, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps he should be blocked because he's running a bot on Commons? He has one you know [56]. Look, the remit of the ban and subsequent suspension of it covered ONLY en.wikipedia. Anything...ANYthing...done by Betacommand outside of that jurisdiction is not subject to the terms of his unban. There's nothing to be "stuck" on. It should have been ignored from the get go. --Hammersoft (talk) 16:38, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
- As you point out, the toolserver is outside of the remit of his editing restrictions, and because of that we're not going to take any further action at this time. The reason it was a concern, though, is that as Beta's mentors, we're responsible for making sure he keeps to the spirit as well as the letter of the terms. Many of Beta's tools don't have anything to do with NFCC content, and so weren't as big a deal. This tool, however, was designed to work in a field he was explicitly banned from. That's what we were stuck on, but after some further discussion between ourselves and Roger Davies, we have agreed to leave it as is. Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:58, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I concur, under further review, the facts that the tool is hosted in a location that we have no control over and that an independent user must evaluate and take ownership of the edits, mean that no further action is required. MBisanz talk 20:06, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks I was just going to make the point that what Im doing is encouraging review of a toolserver query. I am not suggesting that edits be made, but rather I was supporting the results of a toolserver database query request. As a toolserver user its an obligation to address requests that we can handle for other non TS users. Ive done queries for a lot of users, admins, OTRS and projects that are not dependent on en.wp. Had I created any kind of report and suggested that edits be made from those results would be a different story. I am just generating a list of high usage images in a particular category and a method for maintaining that list for muti-user collaboration upon the request of other users. If anyone else wants reports or other tools feel free to ask me. βcommand 20:50, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
My !vote at your RfB
I would welcome comment / response from you either onwiki or offwiki, regarding my !vote, as nothing would give me greater pleasure than switching to support. I'm also going to add a question on a related matter. --Dweller (talk) 11:13, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
- Ahh, thanks. My personal principle is not to respond to opposes or supports, since it can feel like badgering/hounding, but I am more than happy to answer the questions. MBisanz talk 20:24, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Beat the crat...
...congrats! JamieS93 be kind to newcomers 15:03, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yay! Congratulations :D J.delanoygabsadds 15:04, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Congrats! –Juliancolton | Talk 15:05, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Congratulations, Matt. Good luck with your new cross-wrenches. --Dylan620 (contribs, logs)help us! 15:06, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well done. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:07, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Congratulations, Matt. Good luck with your new cross-wrenches. --Dylan620 (contribs, logs)help us! 15:06, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Congrats. - Rjd0060 (talk) 15:09, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- And to think you were worried. --Closedmouth (talk) 15:10, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Congrats and Best Wishes.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 15:24, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Congrats. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 15:36, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Congratulations dude.--WillC 15:43, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Nicely done. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:27, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed (and to make your new messages alert light up again!) Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 19:40, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Nicely done. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:27, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Clarification
Dear MBisanz, regarding the above, congratulations. Sorry I missed that vote as I probably would have supported. Anyway, as you have now commented on a dispute involving me in two threads, I just wanted to clarify some things... Please note User:A_Nobody/RfA#Comments_regarding_block_log. Among other things, my history has been plagued, micharacterized, and distorted over the past few years by various incarnations of now banned accounts User:Eyrian, User:Blueanode, User:AnteaterZot, User:Everyme, and several others. Any anti-me thread includes comments from the above and their various versions and as for my block log, every block was either overturned or whoever blocked me is no longer an admin, unblocked me, or no longer edits. I did indeed rashly and without really thinking it through try to vanish while being bullied on and off wiki. I wound up closing down two email accounts after getting swear-word laden diatribes, among other things I am not willing to discuss on wiki. I am certainly not perfect, but much of what holds me down are falsehoods perpetuated by some of the above and clinged to by those of a different inclusion ideology who are more interested in squashing someone of an opposing viewpoint than honesty or objectivity. Please keep an open-mind to this reality. And in all actuality, now that I have earned my doctorate and am about to begin my career, I doubt I'll really have much time for Wikipedia in the coming future anyway. I just did not want to make a big dramatic departure, but really even if I wanted to be active here, I doubt I'll have much time and as such I am far more interested in improving articles and welcoming new users to semi-finish things off than to play games in disputes with anyone. You know, to be open and honest, it is really hard to get much in the way of actual enjoyment here although I suppose the various DYKs, barnstars, and smiles I frequently get help and I do feel some degree of satisfaction with the welcome messaging, i.e. helping to make new editors start off feeling welcomed and appreciated. But it's late and if I say more, I'll just ramble, so... Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 05:27, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Editing issues re Cage Wars
Dear Sir, On August 1 you deleted 1 or more images from the gallery which I had loaded onto the Cage Wars page. As the CEO of Cage wars and the copyright holder for the images, I send a permissions email to permissions@wikimedia.org on July 24th certifying that these images were our property. My email was acknowledged on July 31st. In an attempt to prevent the malicious deleting of images that had already occurred with this page, I included a notice in the gallery confirming that we owned the rights to publish these pictures. I also included a contact email address for anyone to use in the event of any uncertainty. Why, therefore, my images have been deleted in spite of all these precautions remains a mystery. Perhaps editing on Wikipedia is a powerful drug - the more you do it, the more difficult you find it to stop, until you find yourself making gratuitous edits simply for the gratification of your own self importance. I plan to post these images for the third time. I would be grateful if you could overcome your deletion urge and leave them unmolested. If you have issues, you can email me directly on info@cagewars.co.uk Thanking you in anticipation.
Chris Kelly Fjchrisk (talk) 14:36, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
RFB Talk
Hey Mbiz, I was going to make a suggestion to you here on your talk page, but decided to bring it before a larger community at WT:RFA... but in the meantime you have a new subpage... I'm going to leave it because if we decide to proceed with my proposal, we'd want to have it here anyways to link to your RfB questions.---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 16:10, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
- Sure. I don't mind. Although there are only 37 hours left (assuming no extension occurs) to ask it. MBisanz talk 01:22, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, I was looking more at making this is a long term change to your template.---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 20:34, 16 August 2009 (UTC) BTW congrats.---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 20:36, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
You're going to hit WP:200! Congratulations, let's see if you can top Julian's number in 24 hours. ;) Oh, and consider this a formal invitation to join Wikipedia:It's Matt not Mat! (WP:MATT). iMatthew talk at 14:54, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
RE: SPI
Absolutely! Do you have any suggestions to whom I could have as a clerk-trainer? — Kralizec! (talk) 05:19, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- Email can work for me. Unfortunately I am "too old" to use IRC (that is the same excuse I give my wife for why I have avoided MyFace, SpaceBook, or any other social-networking site). That said I do have a Yahoo Messenger account around here some where ... — Kralizec! (talk) 05:24, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Bank of New England
Orlady (talk) 08:14, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Admin coaching
Back in February of 2008, when declining a request of mine for admin coaching, you said I would need ">2500 edits and 4 months of activity before you can know for certain your ready to begin the process of becoming an administrator." Does this >2500 edits refer to before I get admin coaching, or before I submit a RfA? Also, was that mainspace edits, or just edits in general? Thanks, Ks0stm If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. 11:22, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
You are now a bureaucrat
I have just closed your RfB as successful, congratulations and best of luck... Please don't hesitate to get in touch should you have any questions regarding your new duties, I will be happy to help if can. WJBscribe (talk) 15:08, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Congratulations! You're great for the job. :) hmwitht 15:28, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Like I said at my !vote, I've always wondered why you haven't ran before. Congrats! ceranthor 15:46, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well-deserved. - Dank (push to talk) 16:17, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Congratulations from me too. :-) AdjustShift (talk) 16:20, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Don't be afraid to use bell curves for deciding consensus. Consistency is more important than any subjective measures, because they help diminish bias, which Wikipedia's administration has had too much of the last few years.. Cla68 (talk) 16:27, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Also, per the Amorrow discussion on AN which Tony Sideaway truncated recently, please give consideration to helping operationalize and standardize Wikipedia's admin processes. Please help make Wikipedia's administration less arbitrary and more consistent. Cla68 (talk) 16:30, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Don't be afraid to use bell curves for deciding consensus. Consistency is more important than any subjective measures, because they help diminish bias, which Wikipedia's administration has had too much of the last few years.. Cla68 (talk) 16:27, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Congratulations from me too. :-) AdjustShift (talk) 16:20, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well-deserved. - Dank (push to talk) 16:17, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Like I said at my !vote, I've always wondered why you haven't ran before. Congrats! ceranthor 15:46, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
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Congrats! Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:42, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yay! -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 16:58, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Congrats. :-) --MZMcBride (talk) 17:19, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
MBisanz, welcome to the mix and congratulations. Certainly ask if you have any questions. Cheers, Kingturtle (talk) 17:38, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Congratulations -- though I suspect this is better for Wikipedia than it is for you! People are seeing fit to give unsolicited advice, so I'll chime in with mine: You have common sense and good judgment. Keep using it. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 18:16, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- A very pleasant surprise to come back to - your running, rather than the pass, as that was more than certain from kickoff. Good luck with the extra hat - not like you'll need it ;) GARDEN 18:51, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Congratulations from me as well. The RfB went smoother than I dared to hope, another sign of just how good an admin you are. Best of luck with the new buttons! Regards SoWhy 19:05, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Congratulations! An impressive showing of support from a fairly diverse and opinionated community. Thanks for all your good work on improving Wikipedia and helping out your fellow editors. Take care and enjoy yourself. ;) ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:11, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Congrats! Best of luck, Malinaccier (talk) 19:11, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Congrats!! and good luck with the new tools. Thingg⊕⊗ 19:38, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well deserved my friend. Tiptoety talk 21:28, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Nice job! Very happy to see you passed. :) iMatthew talk at 23:12, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Congratulations from me also. →javért chat 23:13, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Nice job! Very happy to see you passed. :) iMatthew talk at 23:12, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well deserved my friend. Tiptoety talk 21:28, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- I opposed, but I hope I'm wrong. Congatulations and best wishes. -- Noroton (talk) 00:47, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'm glad to see a new person in our ranks. Best of luck (but you shouldn't need it anyway), bibliomaniac15 01:01, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
- The heartiest of congratulations! MichaelQSchmidt (talk) 02:36, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Joyous occasion, your excellence! —harej (talk) 03:44, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
- Congrats. Well deserved. And as an extra bonus, a 'crat that's involved with bots :D ~ Ameliorate! 05:44, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Congratulations. Enigmamsg 06:11, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well done! I'm sure you'll do great!--Res2216firestar 06:43, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
I don't normally go in for all the congratulatory stuff, but I'll make an exception here. Well done. Nick (talk) 16:52, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
- Grats dear! I'm sure you'll make as awesome a 'crat, as you have an Admin. ~*Hugs*~ Ariel♥Gold 20:14, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Heh, enjoy yourself and good luck with the tools. AtheWeatherman 22:15, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Congratulations on becoming a 'crat. I'm sure you'll put the tools to good use. --Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:41, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sorry I didn't sign onto Wikipedia whilst your RfB was in progress. I assure you that, if I did, I would have supported. Nonetheless, congratulations! AGK 11:52, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Ciao, Matt, just wondering why you have protecting this page and if it's still necessary. Skomorokh 17:33, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- I believe it was protected when the election closed to prevent late voting; it's probably still under protection in order to keep the votes held in place for public record-keeping purposes. </talk page stalker> Hersfold non-admin(t/a/c) 18:35, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well, that was obvious. Thanks H, and sorry for bothering you Matt. Skomorokh 18:38, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
This user, who you blocked for 1 month for sockpuppetry, is requesting unblocking. The SPI page shows that he was linked to two IP addresses. Irrito has explained that those are just him, when he forgot to log in. I hate to see someone being blocked for not logging in.. but he has a big volume of warnings on his talk page. Could you post a response to his explanation, please? Thanks. Mangojuicetalk 19:23, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- Noted. I will get to this later tonight. MBisanz talk 00:43, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Either you, or someone purporting to be you, has received an email from me ;-) I hope and assume it's the former... --Dweller (talk) 20:37, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, how rude of me. Congratulations on your successful RfB. You're most welcome. --Dweller (talk) 20:40, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
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Please see: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification#Request for clarification: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ryulong (5). Thank you. Mythdon (talk • contribs) 19:33, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
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Note
Two things tonight:
- 1) I want to thank everyone for their comments at and after my RFB, I appreciate all of the comments I received.
- 2) I finally finished clearing out the most blatant copyright infringements in Category:User-created public domain images from October 2006. It took two months to hand review all 25,000 images, but I am finally done.
Thanks all. MBisanz talk 08:11, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi, are you keeping track of this FLC? Dabomb87 (talk) 22:32, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I had suggested he go for it. I will try to drop in and do some stuff. MBisanz talk 00:51, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
You deleted this image as F7 despite several arguments at the file talk page disputing the characterization as invalid FU. Did you miss them? –xenotalk 17:00, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I did, image restored. MBisanz talk 18:24, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
- I figured as much. Thanks, –xenotalk 18:27, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Good luck with law school
that should be a fun challenge -where are you going? congrats on becoming a 'crat! StarM 02:12, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Please discuss!
I clearly said on the talk page of pershmap.gif that this is questionable, because it is a reproduction of a federal map that was made in the 30s. While I do appreciate your having at least marked the references unlike the previous person, it is a matter of courtesy to the person who is requesting a discussion to reach a consensus. I will ask the person if it is necessary, but first wanted the courtesy of a discussion.
Wikipedia is about collaboratively working together on articles, for the benefit of wikipedia. Are there message boards to discuss these things? I appreciate your input, but would appreciate it in general if people worked with others rather than simply deleting what was put up.
I am uploading this image again, so that we can discuss it respectfully, eye-to-eye.
NittyG (talk) 16:16, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Mesa Laboratory
SoWhy 17:00, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Article removal
Hi! About a year ago my uncle and I uploaded an article about the harpsichordist Elizabeth de la Porte (my aunt, his wife), which was speedy deleted per CSD G12, having been flagged as a blatant copyright infringement (using TW). I suspect that it was material from the website of London Independent Records (LIP) that triggered this. My uncle is in fact the author of this material and LIP are only too pleased for it to be put in the public domain as it raises the profile of one of their artists. We thought about simply reposting the article, but suspected it would end up being deleted again.
Could you please advise on how we should proceed?
Thanks in advance
ChrisJ Dng3csj (talk) 11:28, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Your opinion please...
I'd like your opinion please. Joshua L. Dratel is an officer of the John Adams Project. I just created an article about The John Adams Project. And I went to the Dratel article, to add the additional material. I had forgotten that it had been deleted, following an {{afd}}.
I'd like your advice -- do you think the article needs anything further before it is restored to article space?
Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 03:27, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- I will look at this later today. --MBisanz talk 17:33, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well I read it over. I still think it is borderline BLP1E, but it does have sufficient citations to differentiate it, so I won't object to its restoration. MBisanz talk 15:55, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Greetings! Since you seem to have your finger on the images and designations for U.S. federal courthouses, can you help us fill in List of United States federal courthouses? Cheers! bd2412 T 19:21, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Adopt me please!
Hi MBisanz,
I'm new to Wikipedia and would like to be mentored by an experienced editor. You were listed on the page of people willing to adopt, and I am interested in being adopted by you. I am currently trying to usurp the username "Lewis" on wiki.riteme.site so if my username changes you can reach me there. I hope to hear back from you. Thanks!
--Little Lewis (talk) 22:57, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I am a bit swamped at the moment and wouldn't want to take you on if I could not devote my full time to helping you. MBisanz talk 01:28, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- Hey Little Lewis. I'd be happy to adopt you instead, if you like. I've never adopted a user before, but I'm willing to give it a shot. Or not, if you'd prefer another adopter/none. Cheers - Kingpin13 (talk) 01:40, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks Kingpin, that sounds great! I hope things become less hectic for you soon, MBisanz. --Little Lewis (talk) 14:45, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, let's continue at User:Kingpin13/Little Lewis. - Kingpin13 (talk) 15:17, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks Kingpin, that sounds great! I hope things become less hectic for you soon, MBisanz. --Little Lewis (talk) 14:45, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Congrats
For being upgraded to Bureaucrat.--yousaf465 06:57, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- "Upgrade"? Can we call you MBisanz 2.0 now? :-D SoWhy 07:01, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- Oh I think he will have no problem with that.--yousaf465 07:02, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- Nope, no problem at all, kind of like how Windows ME was such an improvement over Win 98 :-P MBisanz talk 07:03, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- What about Vista over Xp ? :-P --yousaf465 07:12, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well, ME was an improvement. At least in the "looking colorful and being useless"-area. Win98 was so colorless in comparision and you know, it worked somewhat okay for a Windows-OS. They couldn't let customers get away with that! :-D SoWhy 07:13, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- Me was also my first operating windows operating system, before that I was used to Dos only.--yousaf465 07:20, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- So you downgraded? My condolences on losing your DOS. ;-) SoWhy 11:55, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- Me was also my first operating windows operating system, before that I was used to Dos only.--yousaf465 07:20, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well, ME was an improvement. At least in the "looking colorful and being useless"-area. Win98 was so colorless in comparision and you know, it worked somewhat okay for a Windows-OS. They couldn't let customers get away with that! :-D SoWhy 07:13, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- What about Vista over Xp ? :-P --yousaf465 07:12, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- Nope, no problem at all, kind of like how Windows ME was such an improvement over Win 98 :-P MBisanz talk 07:03, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- Oh I think he will have no problem with that.--yousaf465 07:02, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
(←)Indeed! Congratz! Unfortunately, I was too busy to !vote but, I saw the announcement in the signpost. Becoming a bureaucrat sounds hard! Aren't there only like, 30 of them? Joining the ranks of 1k+ admins sounds easier than joining the ranks of 30 'crats. Anyways, 'gratz on the 'crat status.--Unionhawk Talk E-mail 01:33, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Hey Matt, congrats on becoming a crat. I knew you would make it. — Becksguy (talk) 17:12, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi there MBisanz, I was just browsing through the AWB checkpage, and noticed you are put down as a bot. I'm presuming this is just a mistake, and you can fix it by moving your username into the user section (note that, since you're an administrator, there is actually no need to have your name on that list (all administrators are automatically approved), so feel free to remove it completely). If you actually meant to be listed as a bot, make sure any fully-automated (i.e bot) edits coming from your account go through a BRfA :). Cheers - Kingpin13 (talk) 08:29, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Triple Crown
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Thanks
Thank you for helping me out with the complications in changing my username. I hope it goes out smoothly. Marlith (talk) 03:49, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
User:Faizhaider from Rollbackers to Rollbackers and Autoreviewers: Thanx
Thanks a lot for Autoreviewers right. --Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider Rizvitalk! 10:16, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
There is a thread on the talk page of the above named article regarding whether that council is still active at Wikipedia talk:Advisory Council on Project Development#Still viable?. As one of the listed members, your input would very likely be useful. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 16:41, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
in need of some advice
thanks for the warm welcome but i am in need of some advice. i added to the new orleans crime family page some things i felt where backed up by facts. i had some help adding the links to back up my edits.someone added to them with opinions which deluted the facts then someone else removed my edits altogether.i plan on doing some more research and seek some advice before putting it back on the page. but i feel strongly that the facts are the facts.any thoughts or advice would be very helpful.
thanks --Nolafac (talk) 03:46, 29 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nolafac (talk • contribs) 03:35, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Recast civility code
Matt, in response to Carcharoth's points, I've expanded the lead in the blue box. What do you think? link. Tony (talk) 14:03, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
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Images
The template you've used to delete self-made freely-licensed photographs from wikipedia (dunno template name since you used subst not template) implies that images can only be used in wikipedia if they were previously used elsewhere:
- "make a note ... at the site of the original publication"
Can't do, there was no original publication
- "send an email from an address associated with the original publication"
Can't do, there was no original publication
so you've deleted a freely licensed file, because the author failed to meet two impossible criteria? Ojw (talk) 14:53, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- No, it also includes images that may be reasonably believed to be owned by someone else. Permission can be established either by publication in another source that shows a free license or by filing a statement of license with WP:OTRS. MBisanz talk 19:10, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi, you tagged and had deleted a photo of Clifford Pickover which I added three years ago with Dr. Pickover's permission. What do I have to do to get it re-added? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spinorbit (talk • contribs) 19:31, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
The image was from his web page http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickover/aboutcp.html Spinorbit (talk) 19:36, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
- You would need whomever owns the image to email a note to permissions-en@wikimedia.org stating they own it and release it under a free license like cc-by-2.0 or public domain. MBisanz talk 19:38, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Thk
Thanks. Hopefully I will be allowed to edit without getting blocked within the next 15 minutes.Truth Lover83 (talk) 19:20, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Namechange - thanks!
Thanks for getting my usurption request handled, MBisanz. Nice to have the name I use most other places on WP! Appreciate you putting in the time for this. Ravensfire (talk) 21:07, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Ping
Pop on IRC? Nathan T 23:56, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
MCAT
Help me study? =D 76.20.25.207 (talk) 03:19, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
RfB Q's
Hey Matt, with another RfB candidate in the firing lines, I've started to make those changes to your RfA/RfB candidates that I mentioned to you before. Here is the page where I'm formatting the Question and the dummy RfA/RfB candidates. What I'm doing is
- removing the candidates name throughout the RfA/RfB
- removing the nominators name throughout the RfA/RfB
- changing the year to 2099
- changing the month to December
- removing any closing comments made by the 'crat including the final verdict
While this won't make it impossible to look up the candidates or track down the RfA/RfB, it should be enough that people won't be insulted/hurt. As you recall, during your RfB several people complained about their failures being brought up every time there is an RfB.---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 03:17, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- Ooh, good, thanks for doing it. MBisanz talk 03:19, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- I've done the first 8, will try to finish the rest this evening or tomorrow... but I need to go do something else first.---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 03:38, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- One other thing, I think by taking out the information that I'm taking out, it will make this more of a true test and much more difficult. Previously, people were able to look at it and go, "JaneDoe." Jane's a good admin, I'll pass it. And look at the closing rationale, "Hmmm, do I agree or disagree with the reasoning provided by the 'crat?" If they agreed, it was harder to be critical, now that those pieces of information are being denied, candidates will actually have to read the RfA's closer and reach their own conclusions... thus, you might want to make it an "even/odd" scenario. "Please answer how you would close the even numbered cases."---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 03:41, 4 September 2009 (UTC) BTW, you might want to check this out.---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 03:50, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
It's a good thing I watch this page, otherwise I would have likely overlooked said RfB! –Juliancolton | Talk 04:00, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
KVTE-LP
I was wondering if you could restore Image:Kvte.png. I will then place the appropriate fair-use rationale and copyright information on the image so it is usable in wikipedia. RingtailedFox • Talk • Contribs 05:55, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
898 active admins
We went under 900 active admins today, right about the time when it should have. The rate of -6/month has been relatively constant for a long time. I made a new graph at tools:~cbm/admins200909a.png. — Carl (CBM · talk) 12:09, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm, that is an interesting graph. MBisanz talk 12:12, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- As an admin who voluntarily resigned (with no surrounding controversy) this doesn't surprise me at all. The scientist side of me wants to point out that a constant numerical decline of 6 per month becomes a greater and greater percentage decline as the total erodes. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 14:04, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- Interesting. What does "active" mean? Actually doing things, or something else? William M. Connolley (talk) 15:16, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- If they're going by this metric it's 30+ edits in the last 2 months. –xenotalk 15:19, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks. Given this is admins we're talking about, a more useful metric would count use of admin tools William M. Connolley (talk) 15:56, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- Driving by, I don't think "more useful" is really the right phrase, but it would be an informative statistic. I think there are a number of admins that basically don't administer anything: they continue to edit, but don't contribute administratively. Having both sets of figures would be revealing.—Kww(talk) 16:16, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- I would concur with both WMC and Kww that looking at what admins are doing is just as important as how many we have. Looking at WP:LOGACTIONS (warning: large page), it seems that most of the heavy lifting is done by a few editors at any given time. I really should stick that table into an excel spreadsheet and get some more definitive data. MBisanz talk 16:42, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- It looks like you win :-) William M. Connolley (talk) 17:24, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- I would concur with both WMC and Kww that looking at what admins are doing is just as important as how many we have. Looking at WP:LOGACTIONS (warning: large page), it seems that most of the heavy lifting is done by a few editors at any given time. I really should stick that table into an excel spreadsheet and get some more definitive data. MBisanz talk 16:42, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- Driving by, I don't think "more useful" is really the right phrase, but it would be an informative statistic. I think there are a number of admins that basically don't administer anything: they continue to edit, but don't contribute administratively. Having both sets of figures would be revealing.—Kww(talk) 16:16, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks. Given this is admins we're talking about, a more useful metric would count use of admin tools William M. Connolley (talk) 15:56, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- If they're going by this metric it's 30+ edits in the last 2 months. –xenotalk 15:19, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- Interesting. What does "active" mean? Actually doing things, or something else? William M. Connolley (talk) 15:16, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- As an admin who voluntarily resigned (with no surrounding controversy) this doesn't surprise me at all. The scientist side of me wants to point out that a constant numerical decline of 6 per month becomes a greater and greater percentage decline as the total erodes. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 14:04, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- Well I got it into an excel table and I'm trying to figure out how to screen out non-admins who triggered things by accident, but just off of the list of 1,924 persons, the top 10% (192) have completed 68% of admin actions, while the subset of the top 5% of admins (96) have completed 55% of actions. The bottom 50% (926) have completed 3% of actions and the bottom 25% subset (481) have completed 0.2% of actions. The average number of actions for the top 10% is 25,991 and for the bottom 50% it is 214 actions. Obviously the presence of non-admins who accidentally triggered protection moves or protections and system errors like rename allocation mess these up a little, but given we have had 1,823 admins in our history, that means only 92 of the entries can be in error. I might re-run cutting off the bottom 92 entries (making the assumption that errors are the least likely action to occur) and post new stats. MBisanz talk 17:48, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- Interesting. If the top 10% have completed 68% of actions it could be reasonable to guess that the top 20% have completed a bit over 80% of actions, roughly in line with a certain well-known principle. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 18:02, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- 82.3% to be exact on the unadjusted dataset. MBisanz talk 18:14, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- Interesting. If the top 10% have completed 68% of actions it could be reasonable to guess that the top 20% have completed a bit over 80% of actions, roughly in line with a certain well-known principle. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 18:02, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- Perhaps it would be worthwhile to consider that logged actions are not the only administrative activities carried out by administrators, and some of those activities are valuable to the encyclopedia and/or the community as well. Admins working in dispute resolution areas, for example, are likely to have comparatively fewer logged actions than ones working extensively in the deletion area. Hypothetically, non-admins can do many of these things; realistically, the ability to access admin functions when needed, and the fact that the community has confirmed the trust level of the editor/admin, provides them with a level of gravitas that might not otherwise be present. My admin logs will never compete with those of admins who work in the deletion or vandalism areas, the images, or even the template modifications. Risker (talk) 19:00, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
I have compiled some more analysis that also describes its own shortcomings at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship#Research_results. MBisanz talk 01:13, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
- I guess the most obvious "hole" now is when were these actions done? Is it possible to repeat the analysis for "the last 6 months"? (indeed, comparing trends for 6-month averages over the last few years might well be interesting) William M. Connolley (talk) 08:30, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Edgars Portnojs
Edgars Portnojs is not the player of Steaua! Be carefull!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hashishu boy (talk • contribs) 20:13, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
A very belated thank you and congratulations
Hi, I just thought I'd drop by and say a very belated thank you. I realised I never thanked you after my RfA a few months ago, because I seem to recall you were on an extended wikibreak at the time. Anyway, I still to this day appreciate the trust you put in me with your nomination. Secondly, I wanted say well done on your RfB. I was on a long wikibreak when it happened and I completely missed it. Anyway, the outcome was correct and I just wanted to offer my congratulations. Best wishes, Rambo's Revenge (talk) 23:27, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- Aww, thanks, I'm glad to see it worked out well. MBisanz talk 00:20, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
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Username change
Hey man, when I said I wanted to change my username to something random, this isn't quite what I meant… :P Something random (talk) 17:04, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
- I can rename you to anything you want, but I would need you to tell me what it is, since what is random to me, isn't necessarily random to you. MBisanz talk 17:11, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you
...for your statement at Requests for Amendment, though I disagree with it. Mythdon (talk • contribs) 03:00, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Happy Labor Day!
Dear colleague, I just want to wish you a happy, hopefully, extended holiday weekend and nice end to summer! Your friend, --A NobodyMy talk 05:57, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
If you have a chance, could you look at the above referenced thread and perhaps offer a suggestion/opine on it? Regards, Javért | Talk 23:46, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Question
I notice you recently "changed rights for User:IllaZilla [me] from (none) to Autoreviewers (+trusted)". What does that mean exactly? I'm afraid I'm not up to speed on user rights. --IllaZilla (talk) 15:13, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Never mind, I found it right after asking. --IllaZilla (talk) 15:15, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank You, I Think
I just noticed that you changed my user rights to Autoreviewer (trusted). What does that mean other than giving me another Userbox I can put on my User page?
- It means when you create new pages, they won't be flagged for review by other users since I believe you understand things well enough to create pages. MBisanz talk 19:35, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
There is grounds for 99.95% confidence that I will never create a new page. I am almost strictly a user and persnickety fixer. I know a little bit about a lot of things but not enough about anything to create an article about it. Almost all my edits have been to add or correct what I would call administrative but I suppose should be called clerical things such as various parameters on biographies' talk pages and sort values on the biography articles.
Thank you.
Regarding my usurpation
It seems that you have been largely involved in username usurpation as a bureaucrat. I understand that there should be a period of time until the targeted account can be usurped, but I wish that the request can be completed as soon as possible. I would be eager to be involved in Wikipedia, but it would be better if I can get an appropriate username. Thanks. --Temporaily (talk) 01:01, 9 September 2009 (UTC) (also as IP 98.154.26.247)
- (talk page stalker reply) Per the instructions at the very top of the Usurp page, seven days is the fastest that an usurpation can be performed unless there are special circumstances. For instance, if you could prove ownership of the username you wished to usurp. Regards, Javért | Talk 01:42, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello Sir
Hello sir my name is user: The Almighty King.In regards to this [57] I was wondering if you can help solve this issue with my account. I made mistakes and I'm sorry for the situation that happened because of my actions and my inability to speak and defend myself and most of all stop the situation from happening. Your credentials, experience, and intelligence is more than worthy to look over this and come up with a solution. I was ask to seek someone like you so can you please take a look at this sir and solve it please. I thank you dearly for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.55.56.72 (talk) 01:38, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Unified login
hi,i'm Kuailong from Chinese Wikipedia. When i tried to finish my SUL, i found out that there is a user under the same name in enwiki, but this account has no editing history. Could I usurp this account?Thanks for your help.--124.240.129.23 (talk) 13:41, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- Replied there. MBisanz talk 13:49, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- Wow, U R so efficient, that's quite impressive.--Kuailong zh (talk) 13:53, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
hello
What does this mean? and how do I know if the case is accepted or not?--Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 14:44, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- That means one arbitrator has commented but has not indicated if they are accepting, declining, or recusing from the case. If the case is accepted, you will be notified on your talk page by a clerk. MBisanz talk 16:07, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Renaming problems
I requested for a rename from Marsa Lahminal to Samar and SUL account under the new name was created. I had an SUL account for Marsa Lahminal as well. My commons account is still named Marsa and when I followed a link from there to here, my Marsa account was recreated. You suggested that it could be blocked. Will there be any consequences on blocking it, and if not then please block it.
I also requested a rename on Meta, commons and simple Wikipedia. If I am not mistaken I need to separately request for a rename on every single wiki project and then unify all these accounts. Isn't there a simpler way that I can rename all these accounts together, without separate requests. Samar | Talk 17:55, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, there is no way to rename of your accounts at once. There are no consequences to blocking your old account, only that it will force you to log out and log in as Samar when accidentally visit as Marsa from another wiki. MBisanz talk 18:50, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- Alright, block that account then. Regards Samar | Talk 19:36, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Username Change Request
Hello there! I have a pending request to change my account name open at the SUL request page. I noticied you're mostly active there. Can you take a look at mine? Thanks! Happy editing! --eric dilettante' (mailbox) 00:44, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Changing Username
Hi, I am Amit (Talk | Contribs). Please visit the page Wikipedia:Changing_username/SUL and change my username to Amit6. --Amit (Talk | Contribs) 13:43, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for changing my username. But there is a problem, my username has been changed only in english wikipedia but not in other wikipedias and wikipedia's sister projects. Please change my username from Myrecovery to Amit6 in all sister projects of wikipedia. --Amit6 (talk) 10:27, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
- I only have the power to change it in English, you need to request it on other projects. MBisanz talk 12:05, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
PUKE3DRB.JPG
I do have advice on your edit style.
You removed a picture from the tepukei article, one that had beeen replaced by a better contrast version. The edit itself was of course useful, but your comment was the following bullshit:
"Thanks for uploading File:PUKE3DRB.JPG. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, their copyright should also be acknowledged.
If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Wikipedia:Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 20:10, 2 August 2009 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. MBisanz talk 20:10, 2 August 2009 (UTC)"
Is that you or is a bot? makes it any difference?
Another advice: ask a german what it means to be a Spießer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tevake (talk • contribs) 19:19, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- No, it is me, you may want to talk to User:Skier Dude who actually deleted it. MBisanz talk 19:48, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Delete contributions?
Hi. I'm new to Wikipedia and almost changed my username to my real name before I realized this wasn't a good idea. Is there any way to delete my user contributions related to this so that my real name does not appear? Thanks! Gringocarioca (talk) 22:59, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Question
Why can't it be this one? [58] SlimVirgin talk|contribs 22:58, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
- See [59], I just read a PDF scan of the original article and the image isn't there. MBisanz talk 23:02, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you for doing this. I have a query in with the people who run the website. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 23:08, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
- As to the other journal, I don't feel like paying the $15 for an online copy of the original, but the Library of Congress has a set of the journals, so if I feel like popping over to 3rd Street tomorrow, I can see if I can check the paper copy. MBisanz talk 23:09, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you for doing this. I have a query in with the people who run the website. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 23:08, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
- I've also found it was published in Maternal Deprivation Experiments in Psycholgy: A Critique of Animal Models by Martin L. Stephens, 1986, p. 48. I've written to him to ask whether that was first publication, and if not, where he got it from.
- Did Stephen Suomi really tell you there were no images in his PhD? Someone who saw that posted sent me a copy of his PhD, and it does indeed have at least one image in it. The one I've seen is of a baby monkey at the bottom of the "pit of despair" device, figure 8, p. 36. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 15:49, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
- To quote his email "It is NOT from my 1971 thesis, which contained no photographs." MBisanz talk 15:51, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
- Perhaps he forgot.
- Anyway, I've found the original publication, and have added it to the image page. It's Harlow, H.F. 1974. "Induction and alleviation of depressive states in monkeys," pp. 197-208 in Ethology and psychiatry (N. F. White, ed). Toronto, Canada: University of Toronto Press. Also available in Stephens, Martin L. Maternal Deprivation Experiments in Psychology: A Critique of Animal Models. The American Anti-Vivisection Society, The National Anti-Vivisection Society, New England Anti-Vivisection. 1986, p. 48. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 16:04, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
RfBan
I created a sample RfBan page here. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Junkcops (talk • contribs) 05:43, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Fair use warning
Any chance you could fix your bot or script so that it does not ignore redirects (eg. this edit went to my old usertalk, which is only on my watchlist and so gets checked every so often, as opposed to going on the page it quite deliberately redirects to, my current usertalk, which would've alerted me sooner & before the image was deleted). --Gwern (contribs) 13:49 14 September 2009 (GMT)
- Well I use Twinkle, so it is a bit beyond my skill to fix it. I wonder why it didn't pass through the redirect. Maybe if I full-protected the redirect it would at least flag an error. MBisanz talk 13:57, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Surely you are old enough to recall this scandal! Bearian (talk) 15:26, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
- I was born in 1986! MBisanz talk 15:46, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Mark Lloyd
Why is Mark Lloyd still blocked?? How can it be unblocked??? Bachcell (talk) 22:19, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
- I need more context here, is Mark Lloyd a user or an article? MBisanz talk 00:10, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
- Mark Lloyd the user's been directed here from Requests for unprotection. Fifelfoo (talk) 14:21, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
- Ahh, thanks. Given the constant edit warring on the article since its creation, I think it is justified in leaving the protection in place for the full period. MBisanz talk 14:28, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
- Mark Lloyd the user's been directed here from Requests for unprotection. Fifelfoo (talk) 14:21, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
fetch
I was told to go here from http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#List_of_FETCH.21_with_Ruff_Ruffman_episodes_.28edit.7Ctalk.7Chistory.7Clinks.7Cwatch.7Clogs.29, if I am in the wrong area please tell me where to go
List of FETCH! with Ruff Ruffman episodes (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Unprotection, This page is semi-protection it is only a few ip users who are vandlising the page and it all ways the same ones. some of the edit's from the ip's are helpfull in some way. I have been watching the page for some time now since it was protected last time and it was not realy vandalised, just edit's without references, and switching last names was the only problem i encountered. I'm confident we can remove the semi-protection now and give the ip's another chance. I will also keep watching and if anything major happens we can protect it again. Extremeguy (talk) 20:20, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Note: Sounds reasonable to me but you should contact the protecting admin with your request.--RegentsPark (sticks and stones) 21:59, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
thanksExtremeguy (talk) 23:54, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
- You need to go to User talk:King of Hearts, not me. MBisanz talk 00:05, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
user rights action query
Ciao, Matt. There was a request from a new page patroller to grant autoreviewer rights to Arsenikk (talk · contribs). I was set to do so until seeing your entry in their user rights log. I looked at the link you cited but I'm afraid I still don't understand the rationale. Could you have a look and perhaps judge whether the editor is fit for re-acquiring +autoreviewer? Cheers, Skomorokh 15:57, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
- It just means he was inactive/blocked at the time, no problem with you re-granting. MBisanz talk 15:59, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
- Great, thanks. Skomorokh 16:03, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Matt - you deleted a snapshot of my own webpage from my personal page on wiki? That takes the cake!! (Giddyupguydotcom.jpg, StraightRazr.com.jpg) - Barrettmagic
I thought I'd have a stab at it - I'm surprised at how many talkpages are in it, given that I thought that we avoided deleting user talkpages... need to quickly review policy on the matter Fritzpoll (talk) 13:56, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help, we can always use it. MBisanz talk 13:59, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- Someone should ressurrect the CAT:TEMP deletion bot. –xenotalk 14:06, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
I appreciate the sentiment, but...
...Hiberniantears is an admin, so could edit through the pointless protection. Risker looks like he is trying to put out the flames in other ways. Can you remove the protection you just put up, since it won't actually stop him, but it WILL stop legitimate comments from non-admins from reaching the page... --Jayron32 04:28, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- Well yes, but editing through protection is a slightly more serious thing then reverting, so I am hoping he will stop and think. I'll take it off in about 20 minutes or so. MBisanz talk 04:31, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- I think it needs to be undone ASAP, and by you would be best, since you put it on. It was probably done with the best of intents, but given the current atmosphere, it is only adding to the general drama, and not actually stopping it. See WP:ANI. Really, it was a poorly executed attempt to slow things down, and its only fanning the flames... --Jayron32 04:42, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- Just as I was about to click, Hersfold, another clerk, beat me to it. Oh well, I do hope Hiberniantears has taken the warning to heart. MBisanz talk 04:44, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- More important would be you, MBisanz, recognising that what you did was an inappropriate misure of admin power. Protection policy does not support fully protecting a talk page in response to one over-the-top post. Protecting ArbCom from receiving any comments / criticism from non-admins at WT:AC/N is also truly inappropriate. It is fortunate that your action was quickly undone, and I believe you should make a statement indicating you will not misuse your power to fully protect again. EdChem (talk) 05:11, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- As an ArbCom clerk, MBisanz was not abusing his power, as clerks have the right to use whatever means they deem necessary to maintain order on pages relating to ArbCom. J.delanoygabsadds 05:15, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- The issue was that edit warring was occurring. My options were either block Hiberniantears for edit warring or protect the page with the belief that he would respect the admin policy against editing protected pages. In light of his long service to the project, I decided to go down the page protection route and hope he would not resume. MBisanz talk 05:16, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- Wow. Whether it was abuse of power, meh- who cares? Hopefully we can all just agree that it was a bonehead thing to do. And you're continuing to be a bonehead, right this moment. Friday (talk) 05:19, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- I did not use the term 'abuse of power', I said misuse of power. A misuse of power may involve an ill-considered action, whereas (to me) 'abuse of power' implies nefarious intent. It surprises me that it is not obvious to all that preventing non-admins from commenting at WT:AC/N is inappropriate. Perhaps you did not consider this consequence of your action, which is the reason I maintain your action was a misuse of power. EdChem (talk) 05:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- The idea of full protection is that no one, admins or otherwise, edits a page. I was willing to trade anyone editing the page over blocking Hiberniantears. It is more a technical fault that admins can edit through protection, IMO, then an invitation to disenfranchise non-admins. And if any admins had tried to edit through protection, I would have reverted and warned them. MBisanz talk 05:41, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- Preventing virtually the entire community from commenting about ArbCom issues, and while there were several active discussions going on that page, was inappropriate. You chose to do exactly that in response to over-the-top criticism from one user, when Risker and Hersfold were already engaging with HT and trying to prevent disruption. You set up a false dichotomy when you claim you *had to* protect or block - you had other options, including seeing what effect Risker had or reinforcing the warning from Hersfold. You had choices, and the one you made was poor. In case you haven't noticed, the fact Hersfold reversed your protection without even consulting you is an indication that the action was wrong - no matter how friendly the protection log annotation. EdChem (talk) 06:05, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- The idea of full protection is that no one, admins or otherwise, edits a page. I was willing to trade anyone editing the page over blocking Hiberniantears. It is more a technical fault that admins can edit through protection, IMO, then an invitation to disenfranchise non-admins. And if any admins had tried to edit through protection, I would have reverted and warned them. MBisanz talk 05:41, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- I did not use the term 'abuse of power', I said misuse of power. A misuse of power may involve an ill-considered action, whereas (to me) 'abuse of power' implies nefarious intent. It surprises me that it is not obvious to all that preventing non-admins from commenting at WT:AC/N is inappropriate. Perhaps you did not consider this consequence of your action, which is the reason I maintain your action was a misuse of power. EdChem (talk) 05:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- Wow. Whether it was abuse of power, meh- who cares? Hopefully we can all just agree that it was a bonehead thing to do. And you're continuing to be a bonehead, right this moment. Friday (talk) 05:19, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- More important would be you, MBisanz, recognising that what you did was an inappropriate misure of admin power. Protection policy does not support fully protecting a talk page in response to one over-the-top post. Protecting ArbCom from receiving any comments / criticism from non-admins at WT:AC/N is also truly inappropriate. It is fortunate that your action was quickly undone, and I believe you should make a statement indicating you will not misuse your power to fully protect again. EdChem (talk) 05:11, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- Just as I was about to click, Hersfold, another clerk, beat me to it. Oh well, I do hope Hiberniantears has taken the warning to heart. MBisanz talk 04:44, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- I think it needs to be undone ASAP, and by you would be best, since you put it on. It was probably done with the best of intents, but given the current atmosphere, it is only adding to the general drama, and not actually stopping it. See WP:ANI. Really, it was a poorly executed attempt to slow things down, and its only fanning the flames... --Jayron32 04:42, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- (outdent) No, I support MBisanz's actions; what he did was in good faith, and (all things considered) preferable to blocking another administrator who is already pissed off. MBisanz is correct that the full protection should have stopped H-Tears anyway; when a page is full protected, the edit box turns bright pink and is hard to miss unless you're completely blind. The main reason I undid the protection was not to say MBisanz's protection was incorrect, but because H-Tears appeared to have stated on his user talk page he wouldn't post further. I think I tried to state this in the protection log; sorry if it wasn't clear. As it turns out, he did continue to post, but that's beside the point. There were other options, yes, but they probably would have been more unhelpful in the long run.
- MBisanz, I am sorry for putting you in this position; I should have tried to talk to you first, and will certainly do so in the future. Hersfold (t/a/c) 06:18, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- Congratulations, you have learned the art of closing ranks and disregarding criticism of mistakes from ArbCom well. EdChem (talk) 13:45, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- There's a clear difference between disregarding criticism and not accepting your point of view on what happened and what should have been done. MBisanz and Hersfold have responded here, explained their reasoning and calmly disagreed with your interpretation of events. I wouldn't describe that as "closing ranks and disregarding criticism", quite the opposite. If MBisanz intended to protect the page for only 20 minutes, to put a stop to a disruptive cycle of editing, "disenfranchising the community" seems to be an unnecessarily strong characterisation. Nathan T 13:54, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- If MBisanz intended to protect the page for only 20 minutes, he could have set the protection to expire in 20 minutes rather than 6 hours - and full protection of the ArbCom noticeboard talk page when there are several active threads on it is bad judgement. EdChem (talk) 14:02, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- There is no option to set protection for 20 minutes so I would have needed to manually enter the time, and sometimes setting an explicitly short limit encourages the person to wait it out and then post, leaving a longer limit that will be quickly removed can convince them to take a break because they think it will last longer. MBisanz talk 14:06, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- If MBisanz intended to protect the page for only 20 minutes, he could have set the protection to expire in 20 minutes rather than 6 hours - and full protection of the ArbCom noticeboard talk page when there are several active threads on it is bad judgement. EdChem (talk) 14:02, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- I think it is unfair to say I disregard criticisms of arbcom (see generally User:MBisanz/Arbcom), WT:A/CN isn't the place for extended criticism since it is for the announcement of matters, not the resolution of them, the proper places are generally WP:RFC, WP:ARA, or userspace, nor are personal attacks and revert warring the accepted manner to make criticism anywhere on WP. MBisanz talk 14:06, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- Correct. I can only think of a few reasons why you would need to post on the noticeboard's talk page:
- Limited commentary such as "good decision" or more commonly "wow that was dumb"
- Asking questions of the Arbs; "why did X oppose?" "what all led to this?" "who is the banned user X is accused of being?" etc.
- Politely informing people when the horse is well and truly beaten and they have better things to do
- It is not for:
- Extended and/or provocative debate of the merits or demerits of the announcement (those are best made on user talk pages between the debating users)
- Efforts to make ArbCom change their mind (we have Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Amendment for that)
- Reichstag climbing (we have Special:BlockIP or &action=protect for that)
- This is stated (in less detail) at the top of WT:AC/N. Hersfold (t/a/c) 22:23, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- Correct. I can only think of a few reasons why you would need to post on the noticeboard's talk page:
- There's a clear difference between disregarding criticism and not accepting your point of view on what happened and what should have been done. MBisanz and Hersfold have responded here, explained their reasoning and calmly disagreed with your interpretation of events. I wouldn't describe that as "closing ranks and disregarding criticism", quite the opposite. If MBisanz intended to protect the page for only 20 minutes, to put a stop to a disruptive cycle of editing, "disenfranchising the community" seems to be an unnecessarily strong characterisation. Nathan T 13:54, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- Congratulations, you have learned the art of closing ranks and disregarding criticism of mistakes from ArbCom well. EdChem (talk) 13:45, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Where is Enugu State?
I see you removed the map locating this state from the article on Ike Ekweremadu. I am not sure I agree. As you know, Nigeria suffers from considerable tension between the regions, which have very different cultures, languages and religions. Not all readers will know that Enugu is in the southeast. A map illustrates that point and also lightens up the article visually. To your comment that the article on Strom Thurmond does not have a locator map for South Carolina, perhaps it should. Many non-American readers (and some American readers) will not know where that state is in the USA - although perhaps in this case regional issues are less important. Comments? Aymatth2 (talk) 13:12, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- It wasn't me. It was Biruitorul (talk · contribs) MBisanz talk 13:22, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- Oops! Another editor with a B in their username. Sorry. Maybe you really shouldn't have marked me as Autoreviewer! But thanks for that - I will do my best to stay neutral, well-sourced etc. in articles I start. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:39, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
email settings
I appreciate the advice but I actually purposely set my settings so that whoever I send a Wiki email to will know my real name since I don't think being 100% anonymous fosters trust and productive communication. Of course I've only used Wiki email in cases where I felt comfortable divulging this information. However, in light of the recent hackings and leaks of private information, I will act on your advice.radek (talk) 18:13, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
The one thing I am missing
I am sure you don't want to hear any more about Rohde, but I have read more than a few pages on this now. I am not here to comment on whether surpressing that info was right or not. However, one thing keeps bugging me: In those pages and pages of wiki discussions I never read one word of apology towards those editors who did try to do what 1000s of others do every day: Add information to wikipedia. Their edits were reverted and wrongly called vandalism by you. No matter whether you feel it was necessary or not, the decent thing would have been to go to their talk pages and apologize. --Xeeron (talk) 21:39, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- He was later banned as a sockpuppeting user. MBisanz talk 23:23, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- As far as I can see, the most active user adding that content, [60], was not banned. However that is beside the point. If you wrong someone, you should apologize, no matter if the person you wronged was a saint or a sock puppet user. Of course, that is just my personal moral code, there is no WP:APOLOGIZE forcing you to do so. I was simply surprised that this, to me, very obvious reaction was never discussed or enacted anywhere on the pages regarding this incident. --Xeeron (talk) 11:34, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
The Arbitration Committee has passed a motion to open a case to investigate allegations surrounding a private Eastern European mailing list. The contents of the motion can be viewed here.
You are receiving this notification as you participated in the administrators' noticeboard thread on the issue.
The Committee has explicitly requested that evidence be presented within one week of the case opening; ie. by September 25. Evidence can be presented on the evidence subpage of the case; please ensure that you follow the Committee instructions regarding the responsible and appropriate submission of evidence, as set out in the motion linked previously, should you choose to present evidence.
Please further note that, due to the exceptional nature of this case (insofar as it centers on the alleged contents of a private mailing list), the Committee has decided that the normal workshop format will not be used. The notice near the top of the cases' workshop page provides a detailed explanation of how it will be used in this case.
For the Arbitration Committee,
Daniel (talk) 01:19, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
If you're around
Can you log onto IRC for a few minutes? iMatthew talk at 00:54, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Renaming Toontje to GertVogel
Be careful with Toontje/GertVogel. This name was burned up in de wikipedia by obviously promoting Rainer Latzke (have a look at frescography,Computer Aided Mural (CAM)). It seems that he wants to curtain this. --62.104.118.179 (talk) 00:44, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Catholic Conference
Could we bring back the Cathlolic Conference MIAA page? Bchs23 (talk) 00:54, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
- Could you be more specific with the page name or deletion discussion? MBisanz talk 06:51, 20 September 2009 (UTC)