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Declined speedy deletion: Le métro de Tony Hawk

Hi, @Belbury! I wanted to let you know that I declined your G3 speedy deletion nomination of the Le métro de Tony Hawk redirect to Tony Hawk's Underground as the former appears to be the French title of the latter. As such, it is a plausible redirect. If you disagree, you may bring the redirect to redirects for discussion for further input from the community. Thank you! Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 20:43, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Decentralized autonomous organization: Revision history

"Only add names here if the organization has their own article on Wikipedia" 8 from 11 in the list have no own article. Pleas google Lido DAO. reference is following, stop to delete. Amber hurt (talk) 11:01, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

@Amber hurt: The full quote is Only add names here if the organization has their own article on Wikipedia, or if you can provide an independent, reliable source that establishes its membership in this list's group, please. You need to provide the source rather than telling another Wikipedia editor to use Google.

If you've checked and you think some other entries don't meet that, by the terms of WP:RS, by all means remove them. Belbury (talk) 11:07, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

About to add references for Lido: https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2024/06/11/lido-introduces-restaking-vaults-in-collaboration-with-symbiotic-mellow-finance/

https://cointelegraph.com/learn/what-is-lido-liquidity-for-staked-assets

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomerniv/2023/08/21/4-liquid-staking-startups-that-are-unlocking-ethereums-potential/

https://www.forbes.com/digital-assets/assets/lido-dao-ldo/ Amber hurt (talk) 11:15, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

@Amber hurt: Thanks but I'm afraid Wikipedia doesn't consider WP:COINDESK, Coin Telegraph or WP:FORBESCON sources to be reliable, and the fourth link there is not strong enough for WP:RS, being a simple price listing. Belbury (talk) 11:18, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

WP:Reliable sources/Perennial sources is not the only source for reliable sources, its about context, here you have more: https://www.thecoinrepublic.com/2024/10/12/whales-offloading-lido-dao-as-prices-struggle/ https://www.securities.io/investing-in-lido-dao/ https://crypto.news/lido-dao-price-gains-amid-market-wide-dips/ https://cryptoslate.com/aave-dao-evaluates-joining-lido-alliance-to-boost-staked-ethereum-market/ https://ambcrypto.com/lido-dao-ldo-dips-after-sec-goes-after-consensys-for-metamask-services/ https://www.cryptotimes.io/2024/08/12/lido-community-approves-steth-integration-with-bnb-chain/ https://dailyhodl.com/2024/06/14/crypto-analyst-says-large-cap-layer-1-altcoin-primed-for-a-breakout-maps-path-forward-for-bitcoin-and-lido-dao/ The point is, there are more then 10 000 articles about Lido DAO, not just a few. Amber hurt (talk) 11:31, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

@Amber hurt: It's about quality rather than quantity, one reliable source is preferable to 10,000 unreliable ones. Wikipedia:Notability (cryptocurrencies) gives a view on crypto news sites. Belbury (talk) 11:46, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Lido DAO, valued at over $1B with a top 70 utility token, should be added to the list as one of the largest existing DAOs—do you agree? Amber hurt (talk) 11:55, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

@Amber hurt: Not without a reliable source that's written about it, no, I wouldn't agree.

Perhaps raise this at Talk:Decentralized autonomous organization for a wider discussion. Belbury (talk) 11:59, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

You wouldn’t agree even if the information I provided is backed by CoinMarketCap and CoinGecko, the two biggest crypto project trackers?

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/lido-dao/

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/lido-dao Amber hurt (talk) 12:05, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

@Amber hurt: I would not agree that showing an entry on those trackers met has their own article on Wikipedia, or if you can provide an independent, reliable source.

If you think the criteria for inclusion on the list should be expanded to include "is backed by CoinMarketCap and CoinGecko", you're welcome to suggest that on the article talk page. Belbury (talk) 12:07, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

See Talk:Decentralized autonomous organization Amber hurt (talk) 12:43, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Source provided

Good afternoon @Belbury, just to let you know, I found a source that states about shawarma generally being Middle Eastern and not just an Arabic dish. As I found one source, please don't report me for edit warring. Thank you. ShawarmaFan07 (talk) 12:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

@ShawarmaFan07: These are unrelated concepts. If you don't want to be reported for edit warring, don't edit war. Belbury (talk) 09:03, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

@Belbury But I found a source that supports the statement that Shawarma is associated with the whole Middle Eastern cuisine, not Arab. Hopefully you won't mind adding it on that article. Plus, I asked for a discussion on the talk page for you guys to explain why it should just be called an "Arab" cuisine, but there had been no response for several days. ShawarmaFan07 (talk) 09:15, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

My edit of Principal Component Analysis

Why are you reverting my minor edit on this topic, my simply adding a reference? Michael.greenacre (talk) 18:12, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

@Michael.greenacre: Hi Michael, it's because you're adding references to papers that you wrote yourself, across many articles. I've been posting messages to your talk page at User talk:Michael.greenacre about this issue but maybe you haven't been able to see them. Belbury (talk) 18:19, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

I did write a note on Talk:Principal Component Analysis justifying my referencing our (6 co-authors) review of Principal Component Analysis published in 2022 by Nature Reviews. Can the reference now be reinstated? Michael.greenacre (talk) 08:02, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

@Michael.greenacre: Thanks. Whether it gets added is up to the editors who read that talk page. If you add the {{edit coi}} template and write a specific edit request (eg. saying exactly where in the article you want the link added), the request will be put in a queue that other editors will check in on. Belbury (talk) 08:13, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

My edit of Golden hour (photography)

I don't think a period directly after an image tag is necessary or intentional, as it leaves a blank line right after a section heading. --Gert7 (talk · contribs) 16:20, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

@Gert7: Quite right, my mistake! From the edit diff I misread it as being after a wikilink rather than an image tag. I've reverted myself. Belbury (talk) 16:25, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Starter editor have a question

Hi,

I’m a starter editor. I understand what a reliable source is but the game I write on my article does not have an official website. The only way I can get references is through user generated content like a fandom wiki article. How can I get a reliable source without an official website. Nanb500001 (talk) 08:13, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

You asked this same, strange question at the Teahouse, so I'll leave it to them to answer. Belbury (talk) 08:59, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season

On 7 November 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that several major U.S. politicians have spread conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:04, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of File:YouTube front page.jpg

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Cappuccino; [1]

Hi. This image, which was already in the article, is the best and has no latte art; have we solved it? JacktheBrown (talk) 15:59, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

nbnw.org

I did not add the nbnw.org citation at costume party, I just moved it. My question is, why do you call it spam in your edit summary? I cannot find any discussion on it via WP:RS nor the accompanying list. Thanks, 73.218.17.248 (talk) 02:05, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi, it was part of a cleanup of a domain that's been spammed across articles recently, and now blacklisted from Wikipedia. See MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist#nbnw.org. Belbury (talk) 10:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

Awesome, thank you for the link. 73.218.17.248 (talk) 03:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Vital question

What does BLOCKEVASION mean exactly? 2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867 (talk) 11:17, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi there! In this case it means that a number of edits have matched those made in the past by a blocked user, giving the appearance that that user is trying to evade their block. Belbury (talk) 11:46, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm not a banned user but I will watch out for this in the near future. Can I still edit? 2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867 (talk) 12:12, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

If you're neither evading a block, editing at the direction of a blocked user nor restoring old edits by a blocked user, sure. Belbury (talk) 12:58, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Belbury - I suspect this IP is ShawarmaFan07, and appears to be within the same range as this user's other IP socks from what I understand. Will flag this on the ANI discussion. PlatinumClipper96 (talk) 18:01, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Idioms

Why should we need the idiom cite? The source said it, so I do not think it's necessary. Also, please read sources carefully before you assume that the information is, well, 'non-existent' and reverting. ShawarmaFan07 (talk) 13:06, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

@ShawarmaFan07: See MOS:IDIOM, Wikipedia does not use idioms like someone having "one foot" in a place. Non-fluent readers won't know what it means, and I'm not completely sure myself what the sentence is trying to say. I'm not restoring the template because the information is "non-existent", I'm restoring it because the sentence uses an idiom when it shouldn't.

It needs to be rewritten in plain English or attributed as a quotation. Belbury (talk) 13:08, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

It supposed mean that Al-Maleki was squeezed between Western, American culture and culture from rural Middle East. In fact I originally said "clashed", but for some reason you deleted that, and when I reverted it back, I had to include this idiom because you will (as usual) nag at me for "not exactly matching the words with source". ShawarmaFan07 (talk) 14:15, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

@ShawarmaFan07: Saying that a person was "squeezed" or "clashed" between two cultures still isn't very clear, and risks implying that there was unwanted social pressure from her American friends, which doesn't sound like it was necessarily the case. I've rewritten it to be closer to the specifics given in the sources, that she had assimilated into American culture, but considered herself Muslim and was fluent in Arabic. Belbury (talk) 15:18, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, and I am sorry!

I hope I have communicated through my contributions at this point that when I say that "I am sorry", I really mean that it won't happen again. I am beyond thankful for your advice and guidance! Luke Elaine Burke (talk) 15:20, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@Luke Elaine Burke: Absolutely fine, no harm done! I assumed it was a test edit made in error, but if you were trying to fix something in particular and need any help with that, let me know. --Belbury (talk) 15:21, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Bookmarks

All of your bookmarks are extremely valuable and appreciated. Your photography is also incredible and inspiring.

Best, Luke Elaine Burke (talk) 04:00, 26 November 2024 (UTC)