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Soap on a rope

Gives you more room on your talk. :) So I am an incredibly indecisive person. Is it characters with "***" I need to remove. From what I can tell from "*" they were off-screen but part of the series still. Do they stay? Also the remaining pre nineties in all categories with out sources - are they worth keeping because neither book has mentioned them. How do we know some aren't fake?Rain the 1 23:31, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Damn you, I saved the other thread from the archive and you start a new one. :P Right, all characters with "***" and "*" need to be removed as they were off screen. The ones with "*" are characters that died off screen, but played a prominent part in the show (like Peggy Skilbeck). That's how I interrupt the key anyway. It says at the bottom of the page that out of the fifty deaths, twenty-one of them were on screen, so hopefully you should have twenty-one deaths in the list leading up to 2002 (which was when the book's list stops). For the ones you can't find refs for, maybe leave them in the table with a 'citation needed' tag or remove and place them on the talk page with a note asking for other editors to help out. Have a search on YouTube too. Someone has started putting up the old episodes. - JuneGloom Talk 23:56, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Ouch. Seen all the ones I've removed, I am iffy about it - What if some were like Viv and we didn't see her die - but we did in a way. I'm trying to find a rule with reason - It must be that they had to be seen to die, right?Rain the 1 00:38, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm not sure what to do either. I would keep Viv and Terry in the list. I'll have to sleep on it and get back to it tomorrow.- JuneGloom Talk 01:00, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

I would suggest keeping. They were Kentucky fried in a blaze that everyone saw, after all. Conquistador2k6. 09:52, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

I wasn't really suggesting we remove Viv and Terry like. C2K - You are older than us - anymore that were off-screen in that list?Rain the 1 16:57, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

J - Corrie's 50th book has list of Births, Marriages and Death's covering 50 years! :oRain the 1 00:07, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Ah, that's great. The 40th anniversary book has some lists too, but the extra ten years is great. We'll have to compare them and see if they match, lol. - JuneGloom Talk 00:15, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Good idea. What time you gonna be up til? I'll do some scans now. Haven't felt like editing much today.Rain the 1 00:24, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

I'll be around for another twenty minutes or so. Oh, I forgot to say earlier that I've noticed there are a lot of copy vios among the Emmerdale articles. I was reading a couple of pages from the 30th anniversary book last night and thought the prose sounded familiar, then I realised I read it all on Wikipedia! It's mainly the storylines, but I reckon some of the "development" sections probably contain prose copied word for word from elsewhere too. - JuneGloom Talk 00:44, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

I'll send you the link soon then, half way through scanning them. We'll weed them copy vios out! I wonder who is responsible for this?Rain the 1 00:48, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

We need to stick our detective hats on. I also noticed one of Dodgechris's sock redirected a lot of articles to the past characters list and they were never reverted. That really bugs me, but I think we'll have to sort that problem out later. - JuneGloom Talk 00:59, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Done and sent them then. :) I was on about that the other day, how some just redirect without merging - certainly not standard practice.Rain the 1 01:16, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

They all need entries in the character lists, but that's a lot of work for just the two of us. - JuneGloom Talk 01:21, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Just writing a creation section for Bill - it doesn't sound like Watson was on the scene at the time. Tell me what you think when I've added it.Rain the 1 20:13, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I was just going off this List of Coronation Street producers. Btw, is it me or does Riley have a small head in Hollyoaks? - JuneGloom Talk 20:27, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

I was going to ask you about the Bill thing anyway, because it is kinda confusing - who introduced him? One, the other or both? (Or all three) - I had not really noticed that about Riley. :pRain the 1 21:01, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Looking at the info you just added, it sounds like Podmore cast him, but didn't introduce him. I think Kershaw may have been an executive producer, while Podmore was the series producer. It's been bugging me for a while now, it's like his body is too big for his head. - JuneGloom Talk 21:22, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Sent you a twitpic!Rain the 1 19:47, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Lucas and Vanessa - [1]Rain the 1 13:16, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

That's a great storyline for Lucas. Though I feel for Alin as she now has to play a pregnant woman for several months and she's only made one appearance! Thanks. - JuneGloom Talk 14:41, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

They need to start building families up, so this is good. Are you adding Vanessa to the nav box btw?Rain the 1 22:18, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

I've been holding off because she isn't a regular yet. I've been watching the credits like a hawk and she isn't credited atm (nor is she on the website). I know they've updated them since she appeared to move Richard Jasek's name, so it's not a mistake. I need to move her position in the cast list too. I've created a sandbox for her, so I can spare my computer from saving yet another WordPad document. - JuneGloom Talk 22:27, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

I thought she would have just been a regular from the get go. I've got writers block I think. Need to break it!Rain the 1 22:56, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

I assumed the same thing. Just checked the credits for when Rhys was introduced and he was added right away, so I think they must be starting her off the same way as Priya/Ajay/Sonya/Kyle instead. Hmm, what's going to break your writer's block? I usually do some tidying/cleaning up of articles and then I get back into the writing. - JuneGloom Talk 23:14, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Might watch some old episode of H&A, maybe ones with Frank and it could spurr me on to finish his off.Rain the 1 23:31, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

I think I'm going to go to bed and listen to The Archers (must remember to finish Ruth's article off at some point). - JuneGloom Talk 23:40, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Sent you a scan dear. :)Rain the 1 21:11, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

I was thinking, shouldn't Tara be either Oakwell or Thornfield? You may like to check your tweeter too.Rain the 1 18:14, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

I thought the same thing, check out her talk page. I'll check my DMs. - JuneGloom Talk 18:26, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

I've never updated totals before - is this correct - [2]. I figured it was take one nom away, add one win.Rain the 1 14:55, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

You don't take any nominations away, you just increase the wins column. Even if someone wins an award, they were still nominated for it. If that makes sense. :) - JuneGloom Talk 17:14, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

It makes perfect sense actually and I feel stupid now for not realising! lolRain the 1 19:54, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Please check your tweeter, I do not want another Krew/Saskia type dilemma. Help me solve another problem, when I added Jen to the HO 2012 table, what do I list her anchor as? There has already been one Jen earlier in the year.Rain the 1 21:25, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Jen 2? Her surname may be revealed this week when she arrives at the college though. - JuneGloom Talk 21:51, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Ah good thinking, i'm full of questions tonight. :)Rain the 1 22:38, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Tweeter and there is a potential Neighbours goody.Rain the 1 16:07, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Sent you Neighbours caps.Rain the 1 22:37, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Replied. - JuneGloom Talk 23:11, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

How have you managed to plough so far ahead with the new list - in under two hours? :oRain the 1 00:45, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

I haven't, I had the sections already typed up (though they took me a while). I just needed something to focus on for a little while and some more space on the computer. The only bits I've written tonight were Evan's storylines and some more development info for Jess. - JuneGloom Talk 00:53, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Reception - [3]Rain the 1 16:18, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Great, thanks! - JuneGloom Talk 16:25, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

There is a character named Dylan appearing in Hollyoaks next week. He is played by Mikey Riddington-Smith and when I looked the actor up - I found information on him being deaf. This likely be the the character named "Mikey" that we've heard nothing more about - when Hollyoaks were looking to cast a deaf actor. If nothing sourcable arrives by the time he appears - what do we do? I know there is no evidence to suggest it is him, but I wouldn't want inaccurate info sitting in the character list and 2012 character list either. Another thing - I added some info to Carla's brother - but should it be included before the info on Baylis' casting - or after?Rain the 1 17:10, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm not sure what to do about that. Hopefully there'll be some more info released closer to the time, so it may be a case of waiting and seeing what happens. If nothing crops up, I'd remove the Mikey info and place Dylan in the Others section. I would put the older info about Carla's brother first, before Baylis' casting. Question for you: The lead singer of Red Cotton, Griffin, has had more screen time than the rest of the band and now has his own storyline with Summer. Should I continue to leave him in the group's list entry or create a separate one for him? - JuneGloom Talk 23:26, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you - I shall do that if nothing comes along. I'll move it right away - even though I only just noticed your reply. :)Rain the 1 17:58, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

You know TV Buzz - they list their authors on one side of the double page spread - it is hard to say who wrote what - in the reference do you include all four as the author - or just leave them all out and skip that field?Rain the 1 23:00, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

I'd probably include all four. - JuneGloom Talk 23:06, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you - and I would leave him and add to - it'll flesh the entry out more - make a seperate entry if they turn out to be the real deal. Do you think Andrew and Summer are over for good?Rain the 1 23:26, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

I think so. To be honest, I wasn't a huge fan of them as a couple, so it'll be interesting to see what happens. - JuneGloom Talk 23:56, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Or this could be one of those catalyst relationships to show that the former pair are meant to be together. :/ I don't like this new section I'm building on Stug - Reveal, Buzz, AAS, Soaplife, Inside Soap, What's on TV, TVTimes and 2 DS interviews all on the same week's storyline. I never thought I would complain about too many interviews. lolRain the 1 00:19, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Wow, that is a lot of sources. I guess it's good that the storyline is generating so much info. I'm just starting a section of Kyle Canning's family, do you think I should move the info about his temporary departure and Dane's introduction to that section? Or shall I add the Dane info to Family and Kyle's/Chris's departure to Casting? - JuneGloom Talk 00:23, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I think that is a good idea - it seems more fitting too. I'd do it where possible for most characters now too. I've kinda changed my stance over time - I used to be in favour of any casting info - but getting used to it being initial casting and creation info. Hope that made sense? :s Rain the 1 01:05, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Jackie and Jordan in AAS - [4]Rain the 1 15:05, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! - JuneGloom Talk 18:07, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Hellor thar. =] I come with a request as it is your forte - please may you add an Awards and noms table to W&L when you grab a moment?Rain the 1 20:01, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I sure will. Funnily enough I was just about to message you. Check you Twitter DMs, as I sent you something that may help with Sophie's article. :) - JuneGloom Talk 20:12, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you - and the scans are great (Doug looking so dishy is a plus) as they're useful for them all. Just to check, which two girls did you want to do?Rain the 1 20:40, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Jenny and Bec if that's okay? - JuneGloom Talk 20:57, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

It certainly is, already getting ahead of myself and planning Frances article. :)Rain the 1 21:04, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Have you downloaded the W&L presskit? There's lots of info in there. - JuneGloom Talk 21:16, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I grabbed it when you linked me last year. :)Rain the 1 21:25, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Good-o. It'll be quite useful if we ever want to create a list of characters page. Did you see this - [5]? The fact that someone thought that was an important storyline really cracks me up. - JuneGloom Talk 23:26, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

We will deffo create character lists. & lulz - I know I moaned about IP's frequently updating current non-plots - but that takes the biscuit!Rain the 1 23:33, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Do you think...

I could make a page for both Faye Windasse and Xin Proctor. Please get back to me on my talk page. Thanks --Eaststreetlover :) (talk) 14:44, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

The Bill

Hello!

Fancy helping out with this? Don't want to lose it all.--5 albert square (talk) 00:05, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Hey. Images really aren't my favourite thing, especially non-free ones. I doubt you can keep them all, so you'll probably have to decide which ones are the most important and strengthen their rationales. Though maybe a good cast shot that includes all/most of the characters on the list, similar to List of EastEnders characters (1985) could be used instead. Free images might also be another way to go, if there are any available. - JuneGloom Talk 00:14, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

You could remove Sally's image and add thumb|left|150px|Ali Bastian portrayed Sally Armstrong to her section instead. - JuneGloom Talk 00:20, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

No worries, yeah was thinking that too because there is quite a few of them. I think I will have a look over all of The Bill's articles over the next few weeks, well all of their list ones lol! I can't believe someone merged Callum Stone back into a list article and didn't update the rationale of the image, good job I pay attention to him and I noticed! Thanks for the info on Sally--5 albert square (talk) 00:21, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

There are images for Trudie Goodwin and Billy Murray on Flickr, they just need someone to beg their uploaders to change the licenses. ;) Funnily enough I noticed the Callum Stone article in the list earlier and thought he used to have a separate article. Weren't you working on improving it? - JuneGloom Talk 00:23, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

I was, that's why I was a little miffed someone just whacked him back into a list without so much as a nudge on my talk page! Same for Dale Smith! I think what I may do is recreate Callum's article in userspace, then when I think it's really good, take him off redirect and merge the changes. Thanks for the info on Trudie and Billy's images as well :)--5 albert square (talk) 00:27, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I'm slightly concerned that the user who merged Callum's article into the list has a sockpuppet tag on his/her user page and is still editing. I've just PRODed their most recent creation too. - JuneGloom Talk 00:31, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Ah thanks for that, getting User:J.delanoy's advice on this--5 albert square (talk) 11:48, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Ooooooh that's annoying! Not only did they change the article incorrectly, they also uploaded a new image which was definitely not the final opening sequence (despite them saying it was). They also managed to corrupt all The Bill's pages with the new image, it's taken forever to sort them out this morning. Looking on the talk page though I'm not the only editor they've annoyed recently with their edits to The Bill. I reverted back to my revision to be on the safe side, the other editors were only making spelling corrections, I can check the article myself later on. Oh that's annoyed me! I've asked the tagging editor though why they tagged this user as a potential sock seeing as I can't find anything in an SPI.--5 albert square (talk) 10:31, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

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One Direction (American band)

Watch this snowball! Can't believe someone even created a Wikipedia page for them, most obvious delete I've ever seen!--5 albert square (talk) 11:19, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Lord Alex Oakwell

Hello! Your submission of Lord Alex Oakwell at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Daniel Case (talk) 18:25, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

I think I'll help with another hook because I found that totally unfair - I bet you know IN-U word for word aswell.Rain the 1 21:59, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:The Bill

Hello!

Would you be able to have a look at Talk:The Bill and see if there's any way you could help out? Someone has called it's good article status into question and is saying it should be reviewed.--5 albert square (talk) 11:47, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I'll try to lend a hand where possible. - JuneGloom Talk 18:32, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! :D--5 albert square (talk) 18:39, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me about the Free Library for The Bill, used it a few times for the article! What a heck of a lot of dead links the article had! Still got work on the citations to do but gonna leave that to tomorrow :)--5 albert square (talk) 23:36, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

No problem, it's a great place for sources. - JuneGloom Talk 23:46, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, the only thing I couldn't really source was Reg Hollis' leaving storyline so I just removed the reference, it's not that important for it to be referenced. The trouble is Reg leaving did receive a lot of media coverage but it was mainly because the axing of the character caused the actor to attempt suicide on set. Gonna tackle the citation issues tomorrow, hopefully Credo will be able to help me there :)--5 albert square (talk) 00:06, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello! Can you please take a look at The Bill when you get the chance and see if you can help with the remaining references? I'm really struggling :(--5 albert square (talk) 22:15, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Sure thing. Am I looking to fix dead refs or find refs for facts that don't have them? - JuneGloom Talk 22:17, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

It's references for facts that don't have them :)--5 albert square (talk) 22:19, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I'll get to it. :) - JuneGloom Talk 22:22, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!--5 albert square (talk) 22:37, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Just bought this. Now nobody can say I don't try hard to source my GA's! Dunno if it'll have anything about the Sierra in it but even if it doesn't it will likely be helpful in sourcing other parts of the article. Plus I can keep it for future reference if I need to refer back to anything.--5 albert square (talk) 19:25, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

That's great, hopefully there will be some info in there that'll help the article. - JuneGloom Talk 20:22, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

The Archers

Hey June, long time no speak! Can you tell me what this storyline with Usha is that is happening at the minute as I haven't been listening for a while, just heard people saying she has a storyline. Thanks :)--AcidBrights (talk) 22:42, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Hey! I'm not sure what's going on with Usha at the moment as I have three weeks worth of episodes to catch up on. Thank god for the omnibus podcasts! As soon as I know, I'll let you know. - JuneGloom Talk 23:01, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks :)--AcidBrights (talk) 23:07, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't know what you already know, so I'll just go back a bit. Usha supported Amy when she discovered her mother stabbed another girl when she was younger. Usha and Alan went on holiday and when they returned they met Amy's new boyfriend, Carl. Usha later discovered that Carl is married and now she has to decide whether to tell Amy or not. Are you planning on creating an article for her? If so, I can scan you some pages from the books I own. - JuneGloom Talk 15:19, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Lord Alex Oakwell

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 00:07, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Bye

Just to let you know I've decided to leave Wikipedia. Thanks for all your help over the past two years, bye. :)--AcidBrights (talk) 08:17, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh no, that's such a shame. I wish you all the best though, hope you'll come back one day. :) - JuneGloom Talk 13:06, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

ITN Credit

ThaddeusB (talk) 16:40, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! - JuneGloom Talk 16:43, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Sebastian Gregory

I've reviewed the article and there is a bit of a sourcing problem. Please reply at the nomination. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:16, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Tricky Business

Hey June,

Just wondering if you could help me with the copyright status on the Tricky Business Opening Title photo. I took a screenshot from my recorded version, so if you could help, that would be great. B.Davis2003 (talk) 23:18, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Okay... You've uploaded a non-free screenshot to Commons, which only hosts free images, so it will be deleted soon. If you want to try again, you must upload the image here and it must have a really strong rationale for use. Have a look at the rationales for other title shots like File:EastEnders Title.png, File:Winners and Losers.jpg and File:Hart of Dixie intertitle.png to get an idea of how they are written/laid out. Also, was the show any good? - JuneGloom Talk 00:07, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks so much! That really helped :), If I've missed anything, let me know, recording the show, well, might be too early to tell, first half of the program was so so, however it did get more interesting towards the end. I will be tuning in next week though, started it now, want to see it to the end :) B.Davis2003 (talk) 11:50, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Long Lost Family - thanks

Thanks for rearranging Long Lost Family episodes into tables - much, much better.--A bit iffy (talk) 23:29, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

No problem. I thought the layout of the episodes needed reorganising. Putting them into the tables was the easy bit though, trying to find neutral colours for them took me forever (do feel free to change them). - JuneGloom Talk 23:40, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Sebastian Gregory

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

List of Doctors characters

Hi, You may have already seen this, but List of Doctors characters has been put into a revised version of the format being suggested by M.Mario. I am not sure on this, so would appreciate your view on this? Thanks. Adamiow (talk) 08:26, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

I've stated my view on the talk page. - JuneGloom Talk 23:37, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I am pleased it isn't just me! I am happy to revert to the traditional list style, taking into account your suggestion of bringing it in line with the other soaps, but it would be good to get a few more views first. I have reached out on WikiProject Soap Operas but nothing so far. As a more experienced editor, if no more views are expressed, how long do you think I should leave it before concluding that a consensus, abit a small one, has been reached and revert? Thanks for your help, which is much appreciated. Adamiow (talk) 12:15, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

No problem. At the moment consensus is against the change, but I would leave the discussion open for a couple more days to allow other editors the chance to weigh in. The previous format for the list was fine, I just gave the first three list examples I could think of. But if you want to make it a little more like them, then I'm not opposed to that at all. - JuneGloom Talk 16:01, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Soaps, soaps and more soaps

Hello new thread. I've got that sandbox for Sasha sitting idle and I had an idea as a side project. Each day me and you could take just one of the sources and add the information. That way it would grow and it would be near complete in over two weeks. Would you be interested?Rain the 1 21:26, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Ooh, hello indeed. Sure, that sounds like a good idea. If it works well, we could use it for Brax's article too. - JuneGloom Talk 22:49, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Good stuff! Well we can start tomorrow then - and yes to Brax too. :)Rain the 1 23:22, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Great! Oh, I tweeted you. :) - JuneGloom Talk 23:36, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Black Heart: I was not sure on how to split the release history table into two, but keep the first column as one. So I need you to do it - If you look on Amazon the CD single comes out a day after the Digital download.Rain the 1 19:01, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Righto. I haven't split the table before, but I'll give it a go. I'll use Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It) as a guide. - JuneGloom Talk 20:01, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

So onto the next dilemma. Stooshee released an exclusive remix of the song via their website only - [6] Do I include that in the tracks and formats? Also exclusive to their website is the "Exclusive 'Black Heart' Single Bundle" [7], which is the Digital EP, CD Single and Exclusive Remix in one package. Do we include that as a format? Or is there something else we can do to avoid repeatition?Rain the 1 16:33, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

I have no idea what to do. I suppose if they are formats, then they should all be included in the track listing and formats section. Is there another song article we can use as a guide? - JuneGloom Talk 16:47, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Judas (song) has an exclusive single and a note explaining further in the footer. So I think I'll do that and see how it looks.Rain the 1 17:00, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Good find! It looks like a good idea to me. I just found Digital Spy's review of the single - [8]. I thought it could help with a composition section if we wanted to create one. - JuneGloom Talk 17:07, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Does what I just did look okay? Maybe my phrasing in the notes could be improved upon. I'll add the review info from the DS one in a bit.Rain the 1 17:50, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

It looks good to me. :) - JuneGloom Talk 17:57, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

I wonder how or where we can get the info about Black Heart being the VIP track of the week into the article? [9]Rain the 1 19:38, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure, it's not something I've dealt with before. Have you googled "Black Heart and VIP track"? - JuneGloom Talk 21:28, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Nope, just pulled up that listing again. Guess it ain't that important and this ref already supported it being their VIP track.Rain the 1 21:37, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

I have been trying to find a source for it being Radio 2's "Record of the Week" - but the best so far is their radio management's website - but they are hosted on wordpress! [10] What to do.Rain the 1 21:47, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Lol, I found that site too. I searched the Radio 2 site and got this - [11]. - JuneGloom Talk 22:03, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Making a sandbox for a Rafters character aye, traitor. ;)Rain the 1 00:24, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Ha, nothing gets past you. I had some casting info for her, but no where to put it as PTTR doesn't have a characters list. I thought the character was notable though, so I started an article. I've started watching the show too, I'm on episode 2 atm. - JuneGloom Talk 00:44, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Sent you some scans. Are you watching from the first series? You'll have to let me know if it is any good, have considered watching before.Rain the 1 18:40, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I have started from the beginning. I didn't want to jump into the middle of the series. It has been good so far, so I'd recommend it. - JuneGloom Talk 18:50, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Postman pat came again earlier - so I've got the scanner out for you again. ;)Rain the 1 16:00, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Right, thank you! I've almost done Tom Nash's article, just got the lead to expand. I'll assume that C2k6 will do the storylines for him. Then I'll move onto the Black Heart and Troy articles. Need to get them out of my userspace! - JuneGloom Talk 16:23, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Sent. Well I'll be over to add that video info after Hollyoaks - and just heard that Stooshe are on T4 this weekend, so might be useful to watch.Rain the 1 17:58, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

I heard they were on Radio 2 today, so I must listen and see what they say about the song. Tom's article is done, do you think you could find an image for it? - JuneGloom Talk 18:01, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

I've only just read through it and you have done a great job on it! I'll go look for a pic now.Rain the 1 21:00, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, it's not bad. Would you say Black Heart is done? I think we've exhausted all the sources. Might just expand the lead again. Oh, and Sophie from W&L just turned up in Packed to the Rafters. - JuneGloom Talk 21:22, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

I'd say it is good for a song that has yet to chart. That is the only concern I have is that it has not charted and I've seen people try and remove songs for not charting. But it passes some of the requirements at WP:NSONGS doesn't it? [There is probably a better one to go off, but I'm not that well up on the song essays and guidelines]. Dilemma - I don't think Stooshe wrote the song btw as they are not listed, but two other writers named Darren Emilio Lewis and Iyiola Babalola are listed. [12] And I read that she was in rafters during source searchs for Sophie's article, which I should really complete.Rain the 1 22:12, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

I think we're okay as far as the guidelines at WP:NSONGS goes. Stooshe are a notable group, the article is detailed and well sourced. Picking Up the Pieces was created a full month and a bit before it was even released, so I think we'll be fine. Darren Lewis and Iyiola Babalola are the real names of Future Cut, the producers of the song. I guess we can include them in the infobox (like "Love Me") using that link as a source. Do we remove the info about Stooshe collaborating on the song though? - JuneGloom Talk 22:46, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh, apparently Stooshe have changed the name of their album. I can't find a ref though. - JuneGloom Talk 23:07, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, change it in the infobox and remove Stooshe part. I looked at a few other songs by performers who have claimed to write and they're listed. Only DS mentioned it breifly too.. and I'm happy for it to go live then - We need to think of a hook. :D What did they change it to?Rain the 1 23:23, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

According to the group's article it's just called Stooshe. I've sorted the writers and added an image I thought would be appropriate (feel free to change it though). I think our article is better than Call My Name (Cheryl Cole song) atm. - JuneGloom Talk 00:43, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh hai, I Tweeter you. =]]Rain the 1 17:24, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Replied. And shall I move Black Heart now? - JuneGloom Talk 17:57, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I think you should. Our first song article together, woop. :)Rain the 1 18:03, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Done! Now we just need a good DYK hook. - JuneGloom Talk 18:17, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Thought of a few -

...that Stooshe were inspired by the musicals Dreamgirls and Hairspray for their video accompanying their single "Black Heart"?

... that Rhik Samadder from The Guardian said that Stooshe's song "Black Heart" would be apt for a Disney soundtrack to a film about the serial killer Ted Bundy?

... that on 11 June 2012, girl group Stooshe performed their song "Black Heart" at the Hackney Academy for BBC Radio 1's Live Lounge?

... that British singer Shaznay Lewis contributed to the writing of the Stooshe song titled "Black Heart"?Rain the 1 19:30, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

They're all pretty good, I wouldn't mind any of them going on the main page. - JuneGloom Talk 20:35, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Which one do like the best though? What headings would you use for Connor's development section?Rain the 1 21:11, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

The first and second ones. Suggest them both and see which one is picked. Not sure about the headings, I'll have a think. - JuneGloom Talk 21:38, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

There we go - all done.Rain the 1 23:16, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

I do not know if it is any use to you because she has already called Troy nasty once - but saw this - "Laura Morgan of All About Soap said that Troy was "nasty" and he better had not bring any harm to "Sonya or her unborn bubba." Edit: Because that just screwed your talk page right up - look in the last revision of your talk for the ref.Rain the 1 00:22, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Can't wait to see Black Heart on the main page, thank you for doing that. Thanks for the Troy info too, I'm gonna start finishing his article off tomorrow. - JuneGloom Talk 00:38, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

You probably know about it already, but just incase - [13]Rain the 1 02:53, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

I didn't know, thanks! - JuneGloom Talk 17:26, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

They performed Black Heart at the Nando's music festival and C4 aired it - [14] - Can I do a cite episode for the source?Rain the 1 20:09, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

I reckon so and while you're there, you can add this [15]. ;) - JuneGloom Talk 20:17, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Added. They are performing at lots of festivals [16] - so there will be many more to add.Rain the 1 21:12, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

I thought Hugo Austin was returning then! [17]Rain the 1 19:15, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Lol, sorry! - JuneGloom Talk 19:39, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Yay or nay to this? And would you like to help if you think it is a good idea?Rain the 1 17:44, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Yay to a list of characters, but I think its a nay to individual season lists (what happens if only three characters are introduced?). I was thinking we should create an article similar to Characters of Glee and Characters of Smallville. - JuneGloom Talk 19:11, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Well I was making a start on "Others" tables like we do on other things? Surely more minor characters have appeared in each of their seasons?Rain the 1 19:15, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Like those I just added, what do we do with those?Rain the 1 19:58, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't think those type of lists tend to include really minor characters, probably because it's harder to source them. I think we should see how the list would look first with the minor characters, then we can decide whether to continue with that format. - JuneGloom Talk 18:32, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

I think episode citations would do for the minor characters where other sources can not be found. I noticed that the Smallville list is at GA - but all the actual character sections rely heavily on episode citations - obviously we can try and limit the use. Anyway, like you said when I've done the mock up, you can see which you prefer.Rain the 1 18:42, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Would be up for adding those short run down's for Liz, Jim and Steve in the list Wendy features in?Rain the 1 22:28, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Sure, I need something to get me out of this writer's block. - JuneGloom Talk 22:59, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Great :) - I'm just adding bits to Wendy and Andy to keep me good an hour.Rain the 1 23:17, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

I just found this - [18] - for you, while I was researching Liz. - JuneGloom Talk 23:24, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, I'll add it now.Rain the 1 23:47, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Ray Meagher

Hi

I've indefinitely semi-protected Ray Meagher now because of the vandalism that happened on the page a couple of weeks ago. I've also sent the diffs off to the oversighters to see if further redaction is needed given the nature of the edits and the fact it's a BLP. Got fed up of this happening all the time :), just like I did with Margot Robbie, hence why she's also indefinitely semi-protected. From what I understood of the links on Ray's page it looks as if this has all come about with someone setting up a Facebook page to deliberately smear his name? :(

Can you do me a favour please and just keep an eye on the page and let me know either on here or on Twitter if the same thing starts happening with autoconfirmed users now? I have asked Oversight to review my decision to protect the page given that the vandalism happened a couple of weeks ago but in all honesty I'd be surprised if they disagreed with me.--5 albert square (talk) 10:28, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

User:Tomjovanovic

Hello!

Wondering if you might find this useful. On my patrols of WP:UAA I've noticed that it is possible for User:DeltaQuadBot to 'look out' for serial sockpuppeteers. I asked the bot's master about this and indeed there is a blacklist that we can add these editors to. Basically then it means that their edits should be picked up by the bot and then should be reported to WP:SPI or WP:UAA (if the bot isn't sure). I did wonder about this for Brianwazere but he seems to have gone quiet recently, besides he edits from IPs when he does sock so I'm not sure if it would be possible for him. However wondering if you would find this useful for Tom or any other socks? I know the bot currently seems to be adding socks for User:Bambifan101 a lot recently lol--5 albert square (talk) 12:57, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Brian is never quiet, he's just been editing from IPs. Tom also edits using IPs, like this one: 62.31.38.49. I think the bot could help with Demilea or Theunknownnun socks though. - JuneGloom Talk 16:21, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Pete McTighe

Hello, I'm writing regarding Pete McTighe's wiki page. I am Pete's agent and it is my intention to make the entry as accurate as possible, hence my continued edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.174.166.199 (talk) 03:43, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, you've said this before and I provided some information on what to do here - [19]. I also asked you to go to the talk page of the article and explain your issues with the article, instead you've continued to revert/remove sourced content and add unsourced content. The article is a WP:BLP and everything must be reliably sourced or removed. I think I'll ask for the article to be protected until this is sorted out. - JuneGloom Talk 14:35, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I have just stumbled upon this discussion and I'm afraid I have had to revert. There seems to be a conflict of interest here.Rain the 1 17:17, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Have emailed quality@ and info@ re the incorrect information in this article and updated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.174.166.199 (talk) 02:27, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

What on earth are you on about? I have reverted you and it is about time you dropped the stick - agent or no agent - this is Wikipedia and not your agency website. We go sources and notability, not what suits your signee best.Rain the 1 02:40, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Have you seen this? (Body of Proof)

Have you seen that three main characters have left? There's gonna be no show, I do hope they replace with some decent people! — M.Mario (T/C) 19:26, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh no! I knew John Carroll Lynch was leaving, but not Nicholas and Sonja too. Like you said, I hope they get some good replacements in. - JuneGloom Talk 20:01, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Tom and to a lesser extent, Luke

I've mulled it over; You can have him! To be honest, I didn't think anyone was gonna bother so I did and I thought you were loaded down to the max with the hundred and one pies your finger's been in lately so naturally Tom'd be at the bottom of your list. Also Luke Cunningham; That's the most impressive.... This guy is one of the forgettables from the glorious H&A Mid-90s period (Zenith/Apex/Peak/etc IMO) Conquistador2k6 11 June 2012 10:15 (UTC)

Oh, you didn't have to do that, but thank you. I only chose Luke because I have some Inside Soap articles about him and the actor played one of my favourite characters in City Homicide. I was quite surprised to see him with long hair! If I haven't got enough info for Luke, then he'll make a good addition to the '93 cast list when you and Rain get around to creating it. ;) Shauna is another one I've had my eye on, but I don't know how much info there is out there for her. I have started like a hundred projects, though my main focus lately has been the Troy article. Thankfully, it's almost nearing completion. - JuneGloom Talk 16:43, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Talking of Luke, I have squirreled away his storylines (retensed the ones Skteosk came up with in the original draft, Done same with Sarah who sadly will never her own aritcle either) in an offline document of the '93 list which I started this past weekend, that won't see the light of day in userspace until the '88 list goes out (hopefully soon). I just wondered how much you had on his OOU stuff. Also In those IS issues do you have anything on Simon Baker's brief stint in the show as it was one of his most notable roles? Conquistador2k6 26 June 2012 01:00 (UTC)

I'm not sure how much development stuff I have for Luke. I definitely have the casting and departure info done, but there's some characterisation and relationship info that I haven't typed up (or found) yet. I don't recall seeing any articles about Simon Baker or his character in my Inside Soaps. - JuneGloom Talk 00:27, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

I have started 1993 (prob because it was the easiest; yes I'm a lazy get at times lol), You're more than welcome to chuck in your Luke OOU info whenever you're ready and cut whatever you feel needs to go. C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 23:20, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

I haven't looked at my Luke info for a while, so I'm still not sure what I've got. I had been hoping that there was enough info for a separate article, though the lack of online sources is troubling. I also want to get Dani's article finished soon, so I can start on Shauna. - JuneGloom Talk 22:52, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

The forgetten soap

Hey June I was just wondering whether List of Doctors characters (2000) looks any good. I been working on it for a while, I just wanted your feedback to see if you could ake any edits. Im just starting to make a sandbo draft for Donna Parmar, so the Doctors articles will hopefully get up to scratch soon :). Who else is editing Doctors articles? And hows the pilot for BOP coming on ;) — M.Mario (T/C) 17:59, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Wow, the list looks great. You've done some good work. I don't know who else edits the Doctors' articles. I think AcidBrights did some work for them, but he's gone now. The pilot for BoP has taken a backseat to other things at the moment. I have two articles in my userspace that I want to get finished first, plus one list at FLC and a few others things on the go. - JuneGloom Talk 18:06, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Actually looking back on what I said it may have come across a bit rude, im ot pushing you to finish it, just wondering how far it had got, :). AB's gone? News to me, :) — M.Mario (T/C) 18:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

No, you didn't sound rude. I didn't realise you didn't know about AB yet. He just suddenly blanked all of his pages, dropped a few goodbye notes on our talk pages and went. - JuneGloom Talk 18:36, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

AB probably learnt that blanking his pages from me, (Ive done it a few times), ahah, but I always come back. :/ Anyway, im not sure if you have seen it, but I have got a list of references for characters of Doctors, so I can see what characters are viable, etc. Donna, although a big character, as only 6 refs, as Doctors is a soap which recieves hardly any commentary. — M.Mario (T/C) 17:34, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Doctors does seem to be rather neglected. Have you checked The Free Library? - JuneGloom Talk 19:04, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

I did! And I was rather surprised to find hardly anything. It really did dissapoint me, as I was hoping this would be the main source. I could promise you that there is more articles out there somewhere, but there so far back in the Internet, they probably wont be found for a while. The BBC website also does not have character profiles, for the more recent profiles. Digital Spy have only just really started, so I was lucky with what I did in the 2000 list. Once you finished your plans, im going to get you to help me with creating the 2001 list, if that is okay. — M.Mario (T/C) 20:57, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Re:Fast Girls

The sources helped a lot, I ended up incorporating all of them into the article. There's still plenty of room to expand the article, but its a start! :) Miyagawa (talk) 22:30, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Poppy

Hey June, congrats on your new articles, they look terrific; which kind of annoys me. :D Anyway, you metioned you had a soruce for Poppy in IS? Please may a) you add it or b) scan and give me the link? It would be much appreciated, (and any other sources you have on her). — M.Mario (T/C) 20:37, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Just a note to say I've seen this, but not sure when I'll get around to scanning the article for you. I'll aim for the next few days or so, but there other things I want to get done first. Thanks for the compliment about the articles too. - JuneGloom Talk 00:59, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Winners & Losers

You know, I'm sorry, but I have began Winners and Losers and have run it from the start. You then come in and change the colour and delete the boxes. The copyright is fine, but please, don't delete my hard work for now reason.  :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattom123 (talk • contribs) 06:02, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

The copyright is not fine, it's a very serious issue that could get you blocked. I really hope you take that on board. As for the article, you may have started it, but you don't run or WP:OWN it. Changes will happen and sometimes you may not like them (I know, I've been there), but that's the way things go. If there is a big disagreement about a certain edit/change, then a calm discussion should take place on the article's talk page to establish a consensus. The colour was changed to match the show's logo. Often the colour of the table and infobox is matched to the DVD. Also, just add the episode details as and when the information is available, instead of filling the article with empty cells. - JuneGloom Talk 00:29, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Black Heart (song)

Thank you from the DYK team at Wikipedia Graeme Bartlett (talk) 17:59, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry case?

Hey June, um, as your experienced at sockpuppetry cases, I think that this user: User:Daniel Postlethwaite, is another user of Ohio99. On the user's page, it has an imaginary character and made up storylines, just like both Ohio99, 86.170.70.162, 82.20.34.154, 194.83.198.19, 92.40.253.213, Daniel_Postlethwaite and 92.40.253.144. They all make up no-exsistent soap characters. Most of these IP's have edited the Daniel P page, and although they are all from different places, they are all linked, adding hoaxes, etc. What'd you think? — M.Mario (T/C) 19:39, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't think they're related, but DP does remind me of someone else. - JuneGloom Talk 21:42, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Who?; if you mind me asking. — M.Mario (T/C) 15:00, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Recurring characters of Neighbours

Hello!

It's now been semi-protected for a week and got indefinite move protection (just in case). Sorry took so long to respond, been busy at work this week moving offices and with everything else that's happened haven't had the time to log into Wikipedia for a couple of days :)--5 albert square (talk) 20:13, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Though typically, the IP goes quiet just before you do it. - JuneGloom Talk 00:33, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Claudia Leigh

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:05, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Sam Clark

Weather, you believe me or not, i was speaking to Sam Clark today, and he requested that someone help edit his page to show its current details. So please, don't just change it because I did some edits on it. I think we should revert the tables back to how they were. B.Davis2003 (talk) 11:36, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

I didn't change it because you edited it, I changed it because an EP is not a Studio Album and the filmography table is the one used by the WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers (see WP:FILMOGRAPHY). Appearances on chat shows don't generally go in the filmography table. Imagine if he went on a hundred shows, the table would be huge. So no, I don't think the tables should be reverted back to how they were. - JuneGloom Talk 11:45, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Well B.Davis, I had to pinch myself while reading this. I am not sure that advertising singers EPs via request is the standard practise. Asking another editor to undo their edit because you spoke to a singer is certainly not.Rain the 1 16:59, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Lewis Archer

Hi, JuneGloom07, I'm beginning the copy-edit you requested to the above article at the GOCE requests page. Please feel free to contact me, or to correct or revert my edits if I'm doing something I shouldn't be. I'm sorry you've waited a while for copy-editing. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 05:42, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Hey, thank you for taking on the task. From what I've seen so far, you're doing a great job. :) - JuneGloom Talk 10:43, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

No worries; it's pretty good already so there shouldn't be much work to do there. :-) Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 20:09, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Done - please feel free to contact me about any ongoing issues with the copy-edit. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 01:18, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't think there are any issues. You have done a truly marvellous job, thank you so much. - JuneGloom Talk 14:09, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Taki (Soulcalibur)

I think you might re-assess it now. --Niemti (talk) 11:26, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi. I think you can assess the article yourself. I did it initially to remove the article from the Category:Unassessed fictional character articles when the project first started up. If you've expanded the article, then you've done a great job! - JuneGloom Talk 11:32, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Northanger Abbey (2007 TV drama)

The article Northanger Abbey (2007 TV drama) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Northanger Abbey (2007 TV drama) for things which need to be addressed. Ruby 2010/2013 14:02, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Happy Birthday + Ryan Lee

Happy Birthday. Hope it's been a good one thus far. I trawled through the archives and remembered you had some information on Ryan Lee's return to H&A in 1992... Would you be able to add that to the 1991 list I've got have going? No rush. Anyway, Enjoy your birthday. C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 18:40 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, it's been a good day. :) I can't remember having something for Ryan, did I mention that I had? If so, do you know where I said it was? - JuneGloom Talk 19:24, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Archive 7 of your talk, I found it as that page still links to what was his article. C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 22:33 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Ah right, you confused me for a moment. I think I gave a copy of that article to Rain, so I'll just check whether he wants to add it. Otherwise I'll dig the magazine out and add it to the article for you. - JuneGloom Talk 21:52, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I'll add it, I was going to anyway as there is other information for the character I gained. C2k probably just assumed I did not have any because I have not added it yet.Rain the 1 21:57, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Cheers, both of you are absolute ledges. C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 23:15 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh, you should have asked if you wanted a ref for Cameron Hudson. I gathered some info for him a while ago, thinking he could possibly have his own article one day. - JuneGloom Talk 22:19, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Neighbours matters

Diverting the convo to Neighbours, I was wondering if your Brad Willis article will ever see the light of day? You've done everything else and his storylines have just been sitting in the Willis page for a while. Or do you need to do more to it? C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 11:06 19 July 2012

There's no rush and I'm slowly going through all my drafts, getting them finished and moved to the mainspace. Brad needs more work; I have the shooting info to add, plus all the love triangle/marriage info. I don't want to hurry to complete it, as I could make mistakes. - JuneGloom Talk 16:04, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Happy Birthday

	~ * Happy Birthday * ~
	Happy Birthday J, I hope you've had a good day! I brought you a fake cake [it was all very last minute see] ... =]] Rain the 1 19:34, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Ooh, cake! Thank you! :) - JuneGloom Talk 20:45, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Volcano Live

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Kirsty Soames

Hey! I've noticed you're one of the only other people actively editing the Corrie articles, and I've just split off Kirsty Soames into her own page, added two images and fleshed out her article a great deal more - would you mind taking a look and giving me some feedback or making some edits that you see fit? Thanks. Alex250P (talk) 23:50, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Lol, I just left a message at AP's page mentioning that I had started draft. Nevermind. I think that the article should have been worked on in a sandbox/userspace before being split off. There is a lot of information and sources out there that can be used. A few things are immediately jumping out at me; that second non-free image probably fails WP:NFCC#8, the amount of bare urls in the references section need sorting and categories need to be added. - JuneGloom Talk 00:17, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh, and you didn't leave an edit summary behind when you split the character off. Please use them in future, so other editors know what is going on. If I didn't know that the character had her own article, I would think that you had just blanked the section for no reason. You also didn't leave behind a small blurb about the character. - JuneGloom Talk 00:23, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

I did work on it on my userspace, but I thought it was ready to be put out for public viewing. And I think the image is okay, we'll have to start a discussion or something to see what people thinking - and yes I will carry on working on it obviously and oh... sorry I will do in future and I'll add one now. Alex250P (talk) 11:35, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Belated HB!

- Bit belated - sorry! :D — M.Mario (T/C) 17:35, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

That's no problem and thank you! :) - JuneGloom Talk 17:39, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Apologies RE: Coronation Street Character Pages

I am sorry for shouting in my edit summaries. I was unaware about the policy on the outdated article titles having to be contested before they were changed and so I was just trying to make the edit summary noticeable to anyone who may have been casually reverting my edits out of habit - it wasn't out of any desire to intimidate or vandalise, I assure you. I've started a discussion about this on the Coronation Street Project page and your input would be greatly valued. Thanks for all your assistance and support. --ScouseScholar (talk) 20:13, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Misha B images

Thank you for fixing the image. Yes it has a Creative Commons Licence :) the Flickr 2.0 one. I been hunting and requesting high and low for one...Zoebuggie☺whispers 17:41, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem. I did check out the image out on Commons and then Flickr and something is ringing bells for me. Does that Flickr user genuinely own that image or have they uploaded one they found/created under a free license, therefore making it non-free? - JuneGloom Talk 17:55, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I've asked at the Commons village pump for a second opinion as the images look like album artwork or fan made artwork to me. - JuneGloom Talk 19:37, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Seems the images have been Flickrwashed and are now up for deletion. Sorry about that. - JuneGloom Talk 20:54, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh poo! the flickr page it came from looked professional, I thought they were promoting something via making the image free to use...Zoebuggie☺whispers 21:00, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I have written to the flickr account holder asking him for verification that they are his and published correctly under a creative commons licence....Zoebuggie☺whispers 21:13, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I would ask some of the other Flickr users if they would be willing to release their images of Misha B under the correct license instead. I could have a go if you like? - JuneGloom Talk 21:58, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Hiya, sorry I should have replied before. I have a rather bad memory. Any help is very much appreciated. On Flickr I asked and got no reply from Boombox2009 and KissFM. Over the weekend I contacted the webmistress of http://lovingmishab.tumblr.com/ via twitter @HollieTeamALIEN who said she was going to check her photos....Zoebuggie☺whispers 01:21, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

That's okay. I haven't had any replies yet, but I'll send out a few more requests to other users tomorrow. - JuneGloom Talk 01:27, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Poppy

Could you scan the two sources you put on Poppy's talk from Inside Soap, please? I think I asked before, but with Poppy becoming a FA, I forgot. Thank you very much! — M.Mario (T/C) 17:35, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

I can do the first one, but surely you could purchase this week's issue? - JuneGloom Talk 17:49, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes - very cheapskate of me - I've just gone and bought it. I cant seem to find what issue it is - can you? And thanks for the later issue. :) — M.Mario (T/C) 18:40, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much!!!! :) — M.Mario (T/C) 19:08, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Here you go - [20]. - JuneGloom Talk 23:12, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Body of Proof Pilot episode

Are you going to complete User:JuneGloom07/Pilot? Just curious. — WylieCoyote (talk) 21:55, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, myself and User:M.Mario are going to collaborate on it. We've both been a little busy lately. - JuneGloom Talk 22:19, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh, okay. It kinda stands out as the only one from the episode list not to have one. No biggie nor rush. As for my userpage, I was "inspired". I was trying to come up with a way to see most of the userboxes with scrolling in a box. Then, my creation list got lengthy. And so on and so on. Still a work in progress. — WylieCoyote (talk) 01:18, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Re: Austen

Thanks! I like the film, despite what some critics have said. :) Thanks are due to Grapple X for finding that image on Flickr. Your draft looks fantastic so far! I'm so pleased that you're working on another adaptation. I was thinking of maybe improving the television productions of either Persuasion or Mansfield Park (but not Emma, as I really dislike the book!) Ruby 2010/2013 16:58, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Also, would you mind providing the links for those Flickr images? Maybe I can help (note that I'm not the most adept with licensing though). Ruby 2010/2013 17:02, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for the delayed response. Your draft looks great so far! I'd love to collaborate on it. I will begin editing it soon (maybe later today), if that's cool with you. Ruby 2010/2013 16:32, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks :) I'll take a look at the sources you added when I get a chance. I'll probably be jumping back and forth from the article to other projects. Ruby 2010/2013 03:04, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

purrrrrrrrrrrr thank you for finding an image for Misha B's page

...Zoebuggie☺whispers 19:21, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

30 minute love affair

The normal standard is to wait until the song charts, not until it is released.—Kww(talk) 05:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Ah okay. I've only ever created two articles about songs, so I'm still trying to figure everything out. I do suspect the article will be re-created a few times before it charts. Thank you for your help though. - JuneGloom Talk 15:27, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Neighbours

Hello!

Came across this before when I was doing general snooping for a Neighbours actress' article. Don't know if it would be any good to any of the other Neighbours articles for referencing?

Can't believe I watched the video and still found that famous wedding weepy some 25 years on!!--5 albert square (talk) 01:03, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Ha, I just looked at that article five minutes ago. I've started a draft for the wedding ep, so found that during my googling. Which actress were you snooping for? - JuneGloom Talk 01:24, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

I was trying to improve the references for Vivean Gray's article. She only has about one :( the trouble is she's been out of acting for so long it's hard to reference her now. I didn't realise she'd retired from acting just after she left Neighbours. It's sad that she left Neighbours because of all the taunting she got from so-called 'fans', same reason why Ian Smith left.--5 albert square (talk) 21:25, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Ah right, have you checked the fairfax media store? - JuneGloom Talk 21:27, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

No, do you have a link? I'll look over the weekend :)--5 albert square (talk) 21:32, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Here you go - [21]. - JuneGloom Talk 21:33, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!--5 albert square (talk) 21:45, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Credo

Just wondering, do you currently have a Credo account?

If not, you might be interested in this--5 albert square (talk) 23:02, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I got one a while ago. I haven't used it much though, so I might give it up. Highbeam has been a lot more useful for the areas that I edit. - JuneGloom Talk 23:05, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Couldn't remember if you did or not lol. I haven't used mine much until recently--5 albert square (talk) 01:15, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

What did you use it for? - JuneGloom Talk 01:16, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

To see if it had any references that I could use for The Bill. I got a bit confused if I'm honest!--5 albert square (talk) 01:24, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Episode 6188

Yngvadottir (talk) 08:03, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

My apologizes

Sorry about that, I totally understand. Kind regards, --EastStreet Lover, Soap Researcher :-) (talk) 15:02, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

PS. I think your a very good wikipedian!

H&A stuff

Hey. NoticeD you're doing Shauna. If you need SLs, give me a shout. On another note; I've made a start on the rest of the 2010 list offline if you're interested (My last two projects have somewhat stalled). Done Others table, added the Blurb for Elijah and the Scott sisters. Left sections for Rabbit, Mink, Jill and Penn pretty much alone as I figure you'd probably be able to do them more justice. Conquistador2k6 00:39 29 August 2912 (UTC)

I asked an admin for the copies of Shauna's article and her storylines were there, so I just need to rewrite them. Thank you for offering though. What's happened to the 1992 cast list? I have both online and offline articles for the 2010 list. There was a conversation somewhere between us and AcidBrights about the 2011, 2010 and 2009 lists. I'm not quite sure what happened, but I think AB decided to create the 2010 list, so I stopped working on my draft. He went off and did other things, so the list didn't get created. I can't remember if Rain and I agreed to work on it together, I'll ask. Otherwise, maybe we can work out something out. - JuneGloom Talk 00:36, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

I basically hit the wall with 1992 and 1993 due to lack of stuff (tried running before I could crawl, I guess). There some key pieces to be hammered out in the former, Rain said something about getting Meg Bowman her own article and I had to back the cart up due to some copypasta with Kelly Chan's section and demoted to others. 1993 looks a lot more promising as only 3 regulars were introduced that year. I just need additional stuff on Nathan Roberts and James Hudson/Healy (Simon Baker's character).

Regarding 2010, I could show you a sample of my work thus far and if you don't like it, I can easily toss it or work out a collab scheme with you and Rain. With 3 hands on deck, it could work. Conquistador2k6 13:14 29 August 2912 (UTC)

I thought Meg could have her own article too, due to all the reception info out there for her death scene. Though I don't know how much other stuff there is. I'll guess we'll see when Rain starts his draft. I might have something for Kelly in one of the Inside Soap mags. I think the next H&A draft I'm going to start is the Luke one. I just wish there was more online stuff for him out there. The actor's City Homicide character has barely anything too. I think all three of us working on the 2010 list together could be a good idea. It'll certainly get done faster. - JuneGloom Talk 01:04, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Seeking permission beforehand to paste work thus far into sandbox. I don't want to get up your nose with intrusion like some of your previous work. Conquistador2k6 12:44 30 August 2912 (UTC)

Go for it. - JuneGloom Talk 11:55, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Okay, it looks good. I think Elijah and Bianca's blurbs could be trimmed a little though. I have some development info for a few of the characters in the others table, so they can be moved at some point. - JuneGloom Talk 15:18, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh, do you know who played Shauna's aunt Kate? - JuneGloom Talk 17:30, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Kris McQuade. Conquistador2k6 19:14 30 August 2912 (UTC).

Also you have Alf Stewart listed as Alf Roberts. Conquistador2k6 19:23 30 August 2912 (UTC).

Thanks. - JuneGloom Talk 19:18, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

My Brain was probably on autopilot, I guess it was an involuntary reflex! Conquistador2k6 20:01 1 September 2012 (UTC).

Do you want me to take a swing at Penn's SLs or are you gonna handle it? Conquistador2k6 23:00 2 September 2012 (UTC).

I'm not really thinking about storylines at the moment, as I prefer to add them in at the end. But if you wanna write and hold on to them until then, that would be good. After looking at the amount of development info there was for him, I thought that he could do with his own article. - JuneGloom Talk 22:17, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

OK. I'll work on them offline then wait until you move the page over. Conquistador2k6 23:40 2 September 2012 (UTC).

As you've noticed, I'm kind of all over the place at the minute but if you want some help with Geoff or Penn at any time, give me a yell. Also, If you've got anything for my 2008 list, Mi Userspace es Su Userspace. It's still a bit raw lol. Conquistador2k6 00:46 22 September 2012 (UTC).

I hadn't really noticed, but now you've mentioned it I can see you've been kinda jumping from one thing to another. I hadn't planned on editing Geoff anytime soon, but Penn is probably next on my to-do list. If I need help at all, I'll drop you a line. I think I've got the sections worked out in my head, so it's just getting the development info together. I want to get him done, so the 2010 list can be moved. Then I want to finish my Dani article. As for the 2008 list, I don't think I have anything. I didn't watch the show then and I have no mags. Although I noticed you haven't included the "series" field in the iboxes. One more thing, you shouldn't link User:Conquistador2k6/Tom Nash to Tom Nash (Home and Away). If you are done with a sandbox and no longer need it, then add {{db-u1}} to it and an admin will delete it for you. - JuneGloom Talk 00:00, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

By the way...........

Our friend has been back.

Good job I'm an insomniac and managed to catch him haha!!--5 albert square (talk) 01:48, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Hugo Johnstone-Burt

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Coronation Street Regular Cast

Hi! I was just wondering if you could alter the Corrie cast list by putting back the recurring cast list because at the moment the list looks a bit strange because there are people on that list that aren't even classed as 'Regular Cast', I would do it myself but the page is locked, so if you could do it then I will be very grateful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.237.225.37 (talk) 07:24, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately I can't do that at the moment. The regular and recurring characters were merged due to a discussion on the talk page of the article. There were concerns about original research being used to identify the recurring characters, so merging the tables (to form 'present characters') eliminated the problem. If you have a solution, then feel free to raise the issue again on the talk page of the article. Or you can put it here and I can copy it over. A consensus on the layout and how to deal with OR problem would need to be formed, before any changes take place. - JuneGloom Talk 18:27, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

List of Doctors characters

As you have already posted on this, the alphabetical order on List of Doctors characters is being discussed again on the talk page. Hope this helps. Adamiow (talk) 18:14, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Ashleigh Cummings

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:03, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Reply

Hey, thanks, i think he still has some scenes left to air because of what Emma Smithwick said in her producers interview so he might do a big interview with DS when they air or with a soap mag. I had thought about that because i remembered Jill Marsden not being called DCI Marsden which is what i thought her common name was. I'll move Doctor Browning then if it's the MOS but throughout the article i call him Doctor Browning, should it be changed to just Browning or kept the same? I don't think it should be Paul throughout the article, hardly anybody said his name onscreen. D4nnyw14 (talk) 14:59, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Emmerdale Character Articles

Hi! I was just wondering if you could alter the articles of Emmerdale Characters i.e. Priya Sharma still doesn't have her own page and characters like Declan Macey and Jai Sharma don't have any images to fit the article, so if you could help by doing this then I will be very grateful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.204.243 (talk) 09:28, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Creating an article for a character takes time and research, especially if it is to pass notability guidelines. I'll try and fit Priya in amongst my other projects. Unfortunately I don't upload non-free images, so you'll have to ask another editor for those. - JuneGloom Talk 11:50, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

I found that I had some info for Priya already, so I've created her article. That's the only one though. - JuneGloom Talk 22:19, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Riley & The Date

Hey. I noticed that Riley's date of death keeps being changed to 3 October 2012. I noticed you have helped remove this information like I have too. Do you think that the hidden note could be amended to offer more explanation? I thought it was easy to understand, but it seems as though the majority of people cannot grasp something that is fairly simple. Four episodes were aired on four consecutive nights - but the same day was portrayed during these episodes. So what was the date portrayed in the series? I know that is in-universe but that particular field has to be in-universe (IMO) because above it sits the date of birth field. That particular field certainly relies on the in-universe angle because many characters were born before their character was actually created from the real world perspective and in the case of Hollyoaks - before the show itself existed. Therefore it baffles me that a selection of people then think it okay to include "today's date", just because that is the only date they can attribute to Riley's death. I'm not trying to preach to the converted or anything, I presume we are on the same page. But I just thought I'd create a slight discussion here and see if you thought that there is anything I have just said could be nutshelled into a generic hidden note. This would be for Riley's article and any other article in a similar predicament.Rain the 1 23:00, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

I think amending the note is a good idea, especially as this problem is bound to occur again at some point (think it happened with Ringo from Neighbours too). We need something like "X's death did not occur on [insert date here] within the series, instead that was the day it was broadcast. Please provide a source for the actual date." I'm pretty sure Riley didn't die on the 3rd within the show, so I think re-watching the eps to see which day it was and using a cite episode as a source could be good. I might do that now actually. We're definitely on the same page as far as the birth/death dates go though. Is Jennifer Metcalfe taking a break from HO now? - JuneGloom Talk 23:40, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Riley died on the 1 October. Just saw a newspaper with that date appear on-screen, just before the rooftop showdown. I don't believe the day ends before he dies. I did have to laugh at the monitor in the hospital giving the date as 6 August 2012 though. - JuneGloom Talk 00:07, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Just realised that cite episode won't work will it? Might have to add a new note instead, e.g "The episode was set on 1 October 2012". - JuneGloom Talk 00:29, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Good observation there, a cite episode and a small hidden note will be great. We can certainly use your example when this happens again - which no doubt it will. I'm not sure about Jen though, nothing has been announced but even with her mental state in question she is going to be locked up for some amount time. I'll ask Danny K if he has a Q&A coming up to clear that one up. Typical about the monitor, HO do slip up with things like that. lolRain the 1 09:40, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Which episode goes in the cite episode though? 1 October or 3 October? - JuneGloom Talk 20:25, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Doctors

I'd appreciate your view on Talk:List of Doctors characters to try and resolve this finally. Thanks. Adamiow (talk) 20:48, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

I think I've made my view clear as far as alphabetical vs first appearance goes. There's probably a consensus for the list to be changed now. - JuneGloom Talk 21:06, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

It seems that Mario has changed it to first appearance, so that is ok. I would appreciate your views on the splitting of recurring and guest and regular. Thanks. Adamiow (talk) 10:35, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Ramsay Street crash

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:05, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

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