User talk:Jason Quinn/Archive 4
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Jason - I was an occasional user of Wikipedia and I am becoming a more frequent user and learning more about how Wikipedia works. I just read your bio and all that I can say is "WOW!" and "THANK YOU !!"
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Interlanguage links
Hello, I saw that you had added a link to the Spanish version of List of birds of Chile as a hatnote. Similar edit with List of birds of Poland. I'm working on the whole series of "List of birds of ..." articles and I haven't seen that before. I would have thought that it would be unnecessary as there are already the "Languages" links at the bottom of the left column. Alternatively, if they are a good idea, they could be added to the other couple of hundred articles in the series. What is your thinking? SchreiberBike talk 04:01, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, SchreiberBike. To be honest, I'm not sure if they are a good idea. I'm actively considering them. It seemed like a good idea when I first added it to List of birds of Poland and it's definitely helpful in that case. But, then I added it to List of birds of Chile and now I'm not so sure. My main concern is that it's unclear when to stop using this. Should all articles directly about Poland or Chile have hatnotes to their corresponding language wiki? Probably not. If permitted, this type of hatnote could become ubiquitous. At the moment I'm leaning towards removing my own hatnote edits but I still am still unsure. Maybe it could be permitted on a case-by-case basis when it "makes sense". I started a conversation at Wikipedia talk:Hatnote#Advice on hatnote to foreign language version the other day about this. Nobody has yet responding but there you can read my thinking on the matter. Jason Quinn (talk) 08:25, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've replied at Wikipedia talk:Hatnote#Advice on hatnote to foreign language version. I'm curious what others will think. SchreiberBike talk 18:39, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Infobox photo discussion
Hi again. Happy New Year. Can you offer your opinion on which photo is better for the Infobox here? If you're not able to participate, just disregard this message; you don't have to message me. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 01:08, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
- Hi. Thanks for participating in the photo discussion. I really appreciate it. One thing: A new photo has been uploaded and added to the discussion. I hope I'm not bothering you by asking if you would mind indicating whether this changes your viewpoint, or whether it remains unchanged? Thank you very much. Nightscream (talk) 12:47, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Happy adminship birthday!
Ah, geez. I didn't think anyone would remember. :-) Thanks, George Edward C! Jason Quinn (talk) 11:07, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
Precious again
corrections
Thank you for your determined improvement of the project as a Wiki-Gome and copy-editor, without ownership of articles, for unquestionably improvements, - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (31 May 2010)!
Two years ago, you were the 384th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:07, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Three years ago, you were recipient no. 384 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:07, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Four years now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:09, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Damion Scott Infobox photo discussion
Hi. Damion Scott has taken issue with the photo in his article. He previously demanded that I replace it with one that I thought inferior to the one already in the Infobox, and has now replaced with a third one of his own. In the interest of WP:CONSENSUS, can you offer your opinion on this? Thanks again. Nightscream (talk) 19:25, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Courtesy note on image in your essay
I've had to delete File:JacquelineAnderson.jpg as a copyright violation. You shouldn't have much problem finding another example though. Stifle (talk) 12:40, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar | |
Great page. I am new to Wikipedia and had difficulty in finding how to get a message to you. I have done some new research on Fitzgerald's text in which you might be interested. Could you please contact me at proto_gatsby@aol.com? Proto-Gatsby (talk) 20:28, 23 March 2015 (UTC) |
- Hi, Proto-Gatsby. I do all my editing directly
onlineon Wikipedia so please just use my talk page to contact me. I posted a welcome message on your account's talk page to help get to started being a Wikipedia. It contains some important things to know like our editing policies and how to use Wikipedia. The easiest way to learn in my opinion is to start small (fix spelling, grammar, and links) and work your way up to more complicated things. One of the important policies we have at Wikipedia (and it may apply to what you are doing) is "no original research". All material added to Wikipedia should be verifiable though reliable sources. Congratulations on becoming a Wikipeidan. Just learning how to use a talk page is a big step and means you are well on your way! Cheers, Jason Quinn (talk) 13:09, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
Typo Team pledges page.
Dear Jason,
I hope you are keeping well?
I wanted to let you know—out of courtesy to you as its creator—that I recently re-structured our Typo Team's pledges page, seeing as it had become somewhat dishevelled of late.
As you will see, I created a section for each year, because I thought this might help in shepherding new members into the 'current' section. All entries are now also in strict chronological order, which is pleasing to the mind...
Also added a reminder inviting new members to sign/date their pledges, as there were some that had been left unsigned. Since I wanted to restore the whole list in chronological order, I also signed & dated those retrospectively, after re-tracing their entry point by way of 'View history'.
I am hopeful you will approve of these changes, but if you have other preferences for the structure of the page, then please feel free to apply any changes you deem appropriate.
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 21:13, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
- Looks great. Glad to see the changes you made, Pdebee.. Jason Quinn (talk) 10:48, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Jason Quinn: Excellent! Thank you for supporting my initiative.
- With kind regards;
- Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 10:52, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Jason Quinn: Excellent! Thank you for supporting my initiative.
- I made couple more tweaks to your layout, Pdebee. Hope you like. I haven't been as active lately with Typo Team as I once was. I'm still a major wikignome but I just don't visit the project's page often anymore. One of the things I used to do was welcome our new pledges personally on their talk page. They tend to be new users so it's a nice gesture. I would basically just say hello and that if they have any questions they can feel free to ask me. Not many people actually asked anything but I think it's worthwhile. If you are interested in helping run Typo Team, it's an idea you may be interested in helping continue. Jason Quinn (talk) 11:04, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Jason Quinn: Dear Jason;
- I really like your improvements! So much better than my earlier "From/to" labelling! Thank you for taking the time, Jason.
- Thank you also for your trust in suggesting that I consider welcoming new members here at the Typo Team. I occasionally welcome & help other editors when I can and when it feels natural (i.e. connected with something I am already doing in the vicinity). I have the page on my watchlist so it'd be easy to adopt a little routine for this, but I would be concerned about coming across as in a position of leadership in any way; I might feel more comfortable if there were several of us sharing this otherwise pleasant task. Please let me consider this; meanwhile, I'll continue sprinkling help-dust all round, spontaneously.
- Please keep well and thanks once again for taking the time to review, support and improve; good team work!
- With kind regards;
- Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 13:28, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Jason Quinn: Dear Jason;
Persondata RfC
Hi, You participated in the previous Persondata RfC. I just wanted to notify you that a new RfC regarding the methodical removal of Persondata is taking place at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals). Thanks, —Msmarmalade (talk) 08:14, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Kim family tree
I changed the lines because is more logical to have it that way. On the top of the boxes we (should) have the ancestry/descents. On the right/left we should have the relations of that person, like marriage(s). From the way that it is now, it seems that Kim Jong-il is the brother of Kim Young-sook and Ko Yong-hui. And the that dotted line doesn't matter without a legend. But, it's your call ---Daduxing (talk) 15:59, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Query about the Pak 40
Some time ago you added some text - assuming I'm reading the diffs correctly - to the article on the 7.5 cm Pak 40 article, mentioning that British sources indicate an intro date that disagrees with German sources. However, I can't any good examples of either, and the only one I did find mentioning dates at all was a scrape of this article. Do you have any pointers to any other sources, especially the two you imply exist in the text, I'd love to add them to the article. Maury Markowitz (talk) 22:17, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- @Maury Markowitz:. Hi. My lone change to that article (on 20 March 2013) was just a technical fix to a template used by the comment you are referring. The actual author of the comment was Kubanczyk who added it on 29 August 2011. Kubanczyk appears to still be an active editor. You may wish to contact him/her.
- By the way, I notice there is also the statement "German sources differ; the Official Firing Table document for the 75 mm KwK 40, StuK 40, and the Pak 40 dated October, 1943 gives 770 m/s on one of the APCBC tables" in the article, which is related to your question. That statement has its origins all the way back to 27 March 2008 with this IP edit. Many people in the meantime may have tweaked the wording from the original.
- You may be curious how I found these edits. The manual way is to look at the history (see Help:Page history and view diffs by jumping around and narrowing in on the edit that added or removed the text which interests you. I often do that on articles without many edits but it's tedious and boring in general. For articles with longer histories, it's better to use the "Wikiblame" tool. When you click on the history tab you'll find a section of "External tools" given near the top. One of them is called "Revision history search". That's what I used to find these diffs. I just pasted in the text I wanted to find out who added it and when. Wikiblame takes a while to get the hang of (uses a binary search) and it helps sometimes to tweak its input parameters (like I had to do with "Versions to check" in this case) but it is a very valuable tool. Lastly, to create the links I used the {{diff}} template. Just copy and paste the relevant parameters from the URL of the diff page. See its documentation for more info. Hope this helps. Cheers, Jason Quinn (talk) 10:13, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you for pointing out Wikiblame, I am definitely going to make use of this! Maury Markowitz (talk) 13:54, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
A cup of coffee for you!
Thank you for explaining why the switch to HTTPS by default on Wikipedia is an important one, and taking the time to talk about why this is not as "paranoid" as some users may believe. Here's a cup of coffee! Tony Tan · talk 21:06, 13 June 2015 (UTC) |
Hi. the spaced slashes looked like very poor editing, so I used the only text I found on Google Books, a 2012 version.[1]. Go ahead and use the original if you have it (but readers like me may find a better-edited version less distracting). Cheers. —Michael Z. 2015-06-28 01:46 z
- Hi, Michael. First, thanks for noticing that there were some transcription errors in the quoted text. Those had been around for a long time without anybody noticing them! My main concern is that ref used for the blockquote is the one that supports the particular version of the blockquote. I'm less concerned with the particular version. I've been very fatigued the last couple days, so I'm not in the mood to edit much at the moment. But investigating this issue is on my mental to-do list. I'm curious to know when this new editorial version first appeared. Did it appear with the 2012 book or earlier, etc. I'll keep in contact with you about this. Cheers, Jason Quinn (talk) 20:11, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
I have a suggestion at Template talk:Infobox software.
So I have been waiting for over a week just to hear a response for my request to add something until I have concluded that nobody seems to be interested in improving the template, so I have come here (on my birthday—today is my birthday.—) to notify one of you administrators about my request. I certainly would love a response from thee. Gamingforfun365 (talk) 07:03, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Doite
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- Fails WP:CORPDEPTH. Only independent ref is a dead link, found one that might replace it but that only adds up to one independent source. Tagged with notability issue since 2012.
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Some development on relative scalars
Thanks a lot for this page on Relative scalar!
I noticed one inconsistency that I would like to discuss before editing: I don't agree with the statement in the end of introduction: "There are many physical quantities that are represented by ordinary scalars, such as temperature and pressure." More specifically, it is either temperature or pressure that is an ordinary scalar.
In a small volume dV, we have dN mol particles and according to the Ideal gas law
p.dV = R.T.dN
that is,
p = R.T. (dN/dV)
where the last factor is n the number density, that is,
p = n.R.T
But n is a scalar density, that I will note n̂ :
p = n̂.R.T
And it hurts our sense of homogeneity, as we would have a weight 1 tensor on the right hand side and weight 0 on the left hand side. Hence either we give temperature OR pressure a weight 0, but the other one must have non-zero weight.
Next I advocate that it is pressure that has a non-zero weight, namely 1:
p̂ = n̂.R.T
by noticing that
p̂.dV = -δW
is a Work exchange element, that we can integrate. Which in turn lead us to see pressure as a work density.
Some homogeneity between the two can be seen in the general relativity stress-energy tensor
Would you agree with this? Bixente5691 (talk)
- Hi, Bixente5691. Thanks for spotting and investigating this. What you've written seems reasonable but to be honest I'm not sure if it's right or not. It's been some time since I've thought about this subject. And I know from past experience that figuring out a physical quantity's weight can very subtle and prone to error. It is concerning that the equation doesn't match up. I'll ponder it for a bit and let you know if I come to a conclusion. Sorry that I can't be much more help at the moment. Jason Quinn (talk) 21:20, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Amar a Deus sobre tudo
Ser um bom cristã de verdade Justino guilherme (talk) 10:13, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Category:Stradivari violas
Category:Stradivari violas, which you created, has been nominated for deletion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:09, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Warning weeks later
You gave someone a warning for a comment on Talk:Bernie Sanders made 24 days ago? FYI, he retired after your comment. Ssscienccce (talk) 05:08, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- I noticed the discussion was not in the last few days and considered not issuing a warning for that reason. Many warnings make little sense if too much time has elapsed. This is particularly true of "drive-by" incidents, where the warning is unlikely to actually reach the intended audience, or, if it does, it might encourage them to re-engage in behavior they had already ceased. This is not a case like that. First, while the comments were somewhat old, the discussion the editor was involved with is still current and the article is still undergoing back-n-forth in edits over the same issue. Most importantly, unlike a drive-by incident, this editor was engaging in uncollaborative discussion and had indicated in writing that they thought it was a good thing and that they would continue with it. When you couple this with the fact that the editor was behaving inappropriately on a sanctioned article that specifically cites requiring good behavior and the editor was currently engaged in another discussion where they were endorsing mockery of other editors (which further indicates a desire to continue with inappropriate behavior), it is clear that this was an editor who wishes to play by their own rules. My warning was appropriate and the editor has multiple avenues to voice their opinion if they feel otherwise (including just taking it in stride, which they maximally did not do).
- The decision to retire or not is fully their choice. Just prior to retiring, the editor was involved in other discussions over behavior and mentioned they were under wiki-stress. I hope my interaction with this editor was atypical for him/her but I personally think an editing break might benefit this user; so I wish them the best. From my brief dealings, I find the editor extremely argumentative and difficult, finding contention even in matter-of-fact, neutrally-given statements. If you wish to say, Ssscienccce, that the linked comments of the editor are appropriate and I made a mistake, please say so and address the comments directly. If you think I should feel guilty for enforcing policy or encouraging civil discussion because this particular editor retired, I do not. As for that loss, I ask you to consider the number of editors that aggressive editors like this one scare away: this retirement may be a case of a net positive to editor retention and Wikipedia itself. Jason Quinn (talk) 12:36, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
Plagiarism in The Great Gatsby
Howdy-
I was the IP that pointed out some similarities between wikipedia and sparknotes in The Great Gatsby's plot summary in 2013. For some reason today I thought to check those comments, and it seems you eventually did reply. I still see some odd similarities, and they're outlined in the talk page over there. I'd be interested to hear what the story behind this is, if we can know it. Brightnsalty (talk) 05:14, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
Image copyright problem with File:Gifford Pinchot historical marker in PA.jpg
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Wikiclaus Cheer !
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Monobook.js listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Monobook.js. Since you had some involvement with the Monobook.js redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. —Godsy(TALKCONT) 02:26, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
Happy New Year Jason Quinn!
Jason Quinn,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 17:22, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Dear Jason,
Thank you once again for your helpful assistance in support of our Typo Team, and have a great New Year in 2016!
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 17:22, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Request re Multiverse article
I see that you are a mathematician. Could you please take a look at User talk:98.118.36.105#Infinite and finite sets, where it said that "Thus there is another set that consists of all positive integers and all fractions under 10 - an infinite set plus an finite set." This relates to a discussion of the Multiverse article. Thank you! Wahrmund (talk) 21:43, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
Consumer Project
Hi Jason - I'm working on a project with a couple friends to crowd-source information about consumer brands to allow people to more easily make informed purchases. We're planning to have an administrator community on the site, but haven't worked out exactly how it should function yet. You obviously have significant experience in site administration. I would love to pick your brain for a half an hour or so if you would be willing.Megaryel (talk) 03:46, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
Ambiguous spelling correction.
See Wikipedia talk:Typo Team. Tabletop (talk) 04:51, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
See Wikipedia talk:Typo Team#a misspelling of more than one word Tabletop (talk) 10:29, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Lists of common misspellings (Category:Wikipedia copy editing)
- Wikipedia:Lists of common misspellings/A
- Etc.,
- Wikipedia:Lists of common misspellings/Z
- Wikipedia:Lists of common misspellings/Doppelgangers (suggest Category:Wikipedia copy editing) (PROPOSE TO CREATE THIS FILE AND PUT EXAMPLE IN IT.)
- Pairs or groups of similar-enough valid words, which might be confused one for another, at a glance.
- Includes words spelled the same, but with different pronunciation, such as Wind (weather) and Wind up a clock.
- Wikipedia:Lists of common misspellings/Misspellings requiring context to fix (Redirects to /Doppelgangers) (suggest Category:Wikipedia copy editing)
- Wikipedia:Lists of common misspellings/Context needed (Redirects to /Doppelgangers) (suggest Category:Wikipedia copy editing)
- Wikipedia:Lists of common misspellings/Ambiguous (Redirects to /Doppelgangers) (suggest Category:Wikipedia copy editing)
- Etc.,
May 2016
- I have created Wikipedia:Lists of common misspellings/Doppelgangers.
- Do you know how to "Hide" and "Show" text? This should be useful to explain entries, there and then, while hiding explanations in situ for compactness.
- Tabletop (talk) 09:50, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Hi, Tabletop. Perhaps {{Collapsible list}} might be of assistance. For example,
- "i" and "l" are rather similar on old poor quality newsprint.
- This is a second wordy explanation of why the two words are doppelgangers and how the confusion might arise.
- This template had some indenting issues that would have to be worked out.
- I took a look at the Wikipedia:Lists of common misspellings/Doppelgangers page you are making. I think it would help to delete the discussion that lead to the creation and add a introductory section that explains the purpose and meaning of the list. As it currently is structured the page is rather confusing. And I'm not sure some of the entries should even be there. For example, "wind" (weather) "wind" (up a clock) are homonyms. If the list is supposed to be about "misspelled words that have more than one possible correction and needing context to decide", why would they be included? Jason Quinn (talk) 18:49, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Looking for source of material
Hello,
I believe you posted an edit to the following Wikipedia entry: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Scientia_est_lux_lucis
It says that "scientia ex lux lucis" is the motto of the Vermont State Colleges system. Can you provide your source for this? I am researching this at the VSC and can find no reference to this in our historical documents. Can you please show where you obtained this information?
Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.42.4.221 (talk) 15:41, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
- You have the wrong person. The only edit I've made to that article was this one and it was just a formatting change to the phrase. The sentence about it being a motto was in the edit by User:GearedBull that created the article in 2008. That editor's last edit was in 2014 so they may no longer be active. Jason Quinn (talk) 18:19, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
Blocked editor Kh94h returned?
Hi Jason Quinn,
You blocked Kh94h (talk · contribs), and now there is Khy92 (talk · contribs) exhibiting much the same behaviour i.e. cut and paste moves to 'correct' page names. The first account wanted to "... change page name of "Uttar Pradesh Medical Sciences University" into "Uttar Pradesh University of Medical Sciences" ", which the second account has now done. 220 of Borg 12:44, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
- Looks like it's already been blocked before I saw your message. I agree the patterns are suspiciously similar. Cheers, Jason Quinn (talk) 16:26, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
Re:coauthors is deprecated
Dear User:Jason Quinn, thank you very much for fixing my talk page and for the message. Yes, I simply click on "Cite" and then click on "Book" or "Website". The "Coauthors" parameter is there. I hope this helps. With regards, AnupamTalk 16:58, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
Anderson Silva
More specifically having the refs regarding the Diaz fight violates WP:REPCITE section of WP:CITEKILL. References are to be placed after the sentence(s) they support. In this case, both statements were supported by the same references and citing after each sentence is unnecessary.--Rockchalk717 18:21, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
- That is an essay, not a guideline or policy. While the advice given in WP:REPCITE regarding multiple statements from the same source may sometimes be good, this practice has several major problems. For one, it is totally unclear to readers how many of the preceding statements the cite covers. It also renders the text more vulnerable to "ref tearing", which occurs when the last sentence with the cite is removed or additional unrelated statements are inserted before the last referenced statement. Given the extreme importance that WP:BLP places on having inline cites for contentious material, the ambiguity that comes with the advice at WP:REPCITE is unacceptable. Even in general, I think the practice is bad. I've spent far too much time trying to discern what statements are covered by what sources when improving articles by editors who cite like that. Regardless, the semi-colon change, I hope, is acceptable to us both and avoids the matter. Jason Quinn (talk) 19:21, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah its totally fine. Its the presentation of the citations that was my issue not anything else included with the statement.--Rockchalk717 05:50, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Regarding gender bias
Hello, I saw your comments in the recent SIgnpost regarding the gap in Wikipedia content. Have you seen this rough collection of data? I thought you might be interested. Take care. Ckoerner (talk) 15:59, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen that page. I'm not sure the motivation behind your message. Just for clarity, my comments do not dispute the numbers regarding ratios of existing articles but are intended to point out the complexity of interpreting those ratios. This paper was nearly entirely dedicated to measuring biases via article ratios by gender.
- I'm glancing at the study and it seems well done. The paper mentions factors such as "sociohistorical bias" and asks whether the imbalance of articles by gender are "simply a reflection of our gender-unequal reality, or is it also a contributor issue?". Those are the right kinds of questions to ask and the paper knows it doesn't know the answer. As far as I know, nobody has convincingly answered that question. Nevertheless, there are no shortage of editors on Wikipedia who assume that the imbalance is due to contributor issues and the ratio "must be corrected". This is jumping to a conclusion.
- I'm a little disappointed to see how little information the authors provided about their funding. There's no mention in the paper and the "Funding" section of the project page is empty but they do have an easy-to-miss "Wikimedia supported" template on the right-hand side of the project page. No links the project proposals or anything like that though. Jason Quinn (talk) 21:34, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
- Oh, I really didn't mean anything by it. Just thought you'd be curious. :) Ckoerner (talk) 20:43, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Cite within
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Extended confirmed protection
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Protection on Fahrenheit 451
Hi there! I see that you indefinitely semiprotected Fahrenheit 451 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) way back in 2013 due to a high proportion of vandalism edits to the page. The protection log for the page shows that there didn't seem to be a long-term problem, it had only been protected once before, and only for a week. Since it's been three years, would you consider removing the protection, or perhaps trying pending changes which wasn't available back then? Cheers. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:09, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Ivanvector. I've unprotected the page. I looked through the talk page and I'm very surprised I did not (EDIT: forgot word "not") leave an analysis regarding my protect rational. Usually I give semi-detailed statistics. For whatever reason I didn't do it in this case. Regardless, if there's a desire to see it unblocked, let's give it a try. I'm very skeptical that it's going to work. My experience with books commonly read in high school is that they attract a large amount of revertable edits. I've not had a lot of time to monitor my watchlist, so if you could keep an eye open for us to see how it goes, that'd be great. Jason Quinn (talk) 15:08, 28 October 2016 (UTC) EDIT: Jason Quinn (talk) 18:19, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins
Hello,
Please note that TOTP based two-factor authentication is now available for all administrators. In light of the recent compromised accounts, you are encouraged to add this additional layer of security to your account. It may be enabled on your preferences page in the "User profile" tab under the "Basic information" section. For basic instructions on how to enable two-factor authentication, please see the developing help page for additional information. Important: Be sure to record the two-factor authentication key and the single use keys. If you lose your two factor authentication and do not have the keys, it's possible that your account will not be recoverable. Furthermore, you are encouraged to utilize a unique password and two-factor authentication for the email account associated with your Wikimedia account. This measure will assist in safeguarding your account from malicious password resets. Comments, questions, and concerns may be directed to the thread on the administrators' noticeboard. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:33, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
A new user right for New Page Patrollers
Hi Jason Quinn.
A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.
It is anticipated that this user right will significantly reduce the work load of admins who patrol the performance of the patrollers. However,due to the complexity of the rollout, some rights may have been accorded that may later need to be withdrawn, so some help will still be needed to some extent when discovering wrongly applied deletion tags or inappropriate pages that escape the attention of less experienced reviewers, and above all, hasty and bitey tagging for maintenance. User warnings are available here but very often a friendly custom message works best.
If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at WT:NPR. (Sent to all admins).MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!
Hello, Jason Quinn. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.
The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.
If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. Mdann52 (talk) 22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!
Hello, Jason Quinn. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.
The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.
If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
On this day, 4 years ago...
Administrators' newsletter - February 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2017). This first issue is being sent out to all administrators, if you wish to keep receiving it please subscribe. Your feedback is welcomed.
- NinjaRobotPirate • Schwede66 • K6ka • Ealdgyth • Ferret • Cyberpower678 • Mz7 • Primefac • Dodger67
- Briangotts • JeremyA • BU Rob13
- A discussion to workshop proposals to amend the administrator inactivity policy at Wikipedia talk:Administrators has been in process since late December 2016.
- Wikipedia:Pending changes/Request for Comment 2016 closed with no consensus for implementing Pending changes level 2 with new criteria for use.
- Following an RfC, an activity requirement is now in place for bots and bot operators.
- When performing some administrative actions the reason field briefly gave suggestions as text was typed. This change has since been reverted so that issues with the implementation can be addressed. (T34950)
- Following the latest RfC concluding that Pending Changes 2 should not be used on the English Wikipedia, an RfC closed with consensus to remove the options for using it from the page protection interface, a change which has now been made. (T156448)
- The Foundation has announced a new community health initiative to combat harassment. This should bring numerous improvements to tools for admins and CheckUsers in 2017.
- The Arbitration Committee released a response to the Wikimedia Foundation's statement on paid editing and outing.
- JohnCD (John Cameron Deas) passed away on 30 December 2016. John began editing Wikipedia seriously during 2007 and became an administrator in November 2009.
13:38, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Happy Adminship Anniversary
Want a minor change in first paragraph of an article in Wikipedia(which is protected)
Hi Jason, wanted a minor change in the first paragraph of an article in Wikipedia...named as Nangal (A city in Punjab, India)...can you help me ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SidK16 (talk • contribs) 19:42, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- Hello, SidK16. Welcome to Wikipedia. I don't know what change you're are proposing. But in general, it's a good idea to propose changes to protected articles on the article's talk page (see Help:Using talk pages). The template {{Request edit}} is useful in such situations and can help you get a person with permission to make your change once you've detailed it. There's a section at the link called "how to use" which will help you learn how to use it. I see your account is new and you haven't been given a standard welcome yet with the usual set of helpful links. I will do that now for you. Cheers, Jason Quinn (talk) 20:00, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
No Actually there is an article named as Nangal (A city in Punjab, India)...The first paragraph is protected and we can't make any changes....while for the rest of paragraphs...we can...if you see the article-- https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Nangal
you will see in the first line...in the Punjab, India. while it is like this...in Punjab, India. Please if you can change this...? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SidK16 (talk • contribs) 20:26, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- Individual paragraphs cannot be protected, only full articles. The article Nangal is not protected and you should be able to edit it. I believe code for the infobox is confusing you. When you edit the article, scroll down past the code for the infobox and you will find the text for the first paragraph there. You should be able to edit it. PS You'll want to start signing your comments. You can do it using four tildes like this "~~~~". Jason Quinn (talk) 20:56, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
Couldn't get you....! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SidK16 (talk • contribs) 21:17, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
Can you again explain please ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SidK16 (talk • contribs) 21:26, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- The Nangal article is not protected. You should be able to edit it all, including the first paragraph. Are you using the VisualEditor or text editor to edit? If you are using the VisualEditor, you should have no problem editing the first paragraph. If you are, there may be a bug in the Visual Editor. If you use the text editor, scroll down a page or two to find the text of the first paragraph. The first lines of the source are related to the infobox, not the article's text. Going to bed now. If I haven't helped you with your question yet, you may wish to visit the Wikipedia:Help desk. Jason Quinn (talk) 00:14, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks a lot Jason !!...Got it ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SidK16 (talk • contribs) 06:57, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
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