User talk:IOHANNVSVERVS/Archive 1

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Archive 1

November 2023

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Western Sahara. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. M.Bitton (talk) 16:05, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Welcome!

Welcome to Wikipedia, IOHANNVSVERVS! Thank you for your contributions. I am Aristophanes68 and I have been editing Wikipedia for some time, so if you have any questions feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. You can also check out Wikipedia:Questions or type {{help me}} at the bottom of this page. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Also, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name using four tildes (~~~~); that will automatically produce your username and the date. I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Aristophanes68 (talk) 00:58, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Cheers, friend. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 01:59, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

August 2015

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Satya. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Ogress _smash! 09:39, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

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Stop participating in discussions covered by ARBPIA

You're not extended confirmed so you don't have the required permissions to participate in places like this RfC. There is a notice at the top of that discussion already informing you. Orgullomoore has already struck your comments multiple times. You need to stop. JM (talk) 07:52, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

@JM2023: Is that kinda like stalking random SPI and reinstating the abuser's abuse like here? Or what the heck is going on? What new user does this? This user needs to disclose if you have any other Wikipedia accounts. — Smuckola (talk) 09:48, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Reminder of WP:NPA

Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors. Thank you. Jeppiz (talk) 20:51, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Comment on content, not on other users. Jeppiz (talk) 20:51, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

What was the answer to mentioning Jewish/Palestinian violence that existed before the Nakba?

In your removal of the third opinion request, you said that the entry was answered, but I think I missed the answer. Did anybody actually comment on it? I did not see any edits to the pre 1948 section nor to the start of the 1948 section. (or does the lack of response mean that the answer is "Nobody actually cares"? :-D ) --Bertrc (talk) 02:51, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

I thought AriTheHorse responded. If I was wrong feel free to relist your entry. Cheers, IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 03:16, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Oh, I did see that comment. It seemed to be in support of including mention of the jewish/Palestinian violence that existed before . . . so . . . Should I re-add my edits? (Sorry, I am truly a newb at wikipedia and I do not want to trample toes) --Bertrc (talk) 03:23, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

If AriTheHorse didn't address the issue then you can relist it. You may also want to clarify/simplify what exactly you need addressed. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 03:29, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. @AriTheHorse: seemed to address it. The disagreement was whether or not to include rthe context of the war and the violence in which the Nakba began. AriTheHorse said he thought it should be included. I re-editted my change, fixing two bad ref links. The ref links look cumbersome in the edit box, but display properly when published. If my changes gets blindly reverted again for reasons such as "A book back in 2002 is too far back" or "Contemporary newspaper references are not good" or "We don't reference French Books" then I will relist --Bertrc (talk) 04:05, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Well, no luck. In spite of AriTheHorse' third opinion and their support for the changes, the edit war continues. My edits were blindly reverted (with no comment in the discussion, this time). I will reraise the request for additional third opinions. --Bertrc (talk) Bertrc (talk) 03:24, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

I raised a (horribly formatted) dispute resolution. --Bertrc (talk) 17:22, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

WP:CANVASSING

Notifying a bunch of editors who have disagreed with another editor in the past, especially while not notifying any other editors involved, of an ANI thread is inappropriate canvassing. Please do not do this again. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:56, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

I only notified the editors who I directly mentioned in my report by name. I understand that since I only mentioned editors who criticized the user in question that the effect is similar to canvassing, but that was not my intention at all. I'll put a notice at each discussion mentioned in my report that I opened an ANI case pertaining to those discussions, such that all editors there involved will be more equally notified. Are there any other steps that I should take to counteract this canvassing-like inequality of notification? IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 21:30, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

same user on another page

The same user you mentioned in that discussion has been removing a lot of content from List of engagements during the 2023 Israel-Hamas war. I've been unsure what to do about it. I've mentioned it to them, but I worry not very constructively. I've been trying to assume good faith because each individual edit seems justified, and I'm not even sure if the trends I think I've noticed are real, but since they're already being mentioned I wanted to point it out incase it's part of an even bigger pattern. Irtapil (talk) 16:42, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

somebody is wrong on the internet

I reverted your edits to Cunningham's Law because the subject is not notable. I caution you to reconsider citing a comment on a blog per WP:RS and WP:SPS. Chris Troutman (talk) 22:05, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification.

And for the record I just copied the article from https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cunningham%27s_Law

- IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 22:16, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Because content is CC-BY-SA, the next time you copy from one page to another you are required to say exactly that in your edit summary rather than just "Create standalone page instead of a redirect". That way, the authors on Meta get the credit they deserve for the content you brought over. Because Meta is a different wiki, the rules there aren't necessarily the same as the rules here and a lot of folks forget that. Each of the other language wikis as well as Commons and WikiData are their own projects with differing leadership and consensuses. It wasn't only that the content wasn't any good; it's a matter of notability. Please take time to read our various policies and guidelines if you're going to edit here. Chris Troutman (talk) 14:11, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you! IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 06:10, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Stop commenting on editors

Stop commenting on editors' motives and casting aspersions as you did here. If you believe someone is editing disruptively then bring it to WP:AE or WP:ANI. It does not belong on article talk pages. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:07, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, I knew better than to do that and I apologise. I will bring it up at AE. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 00:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

I have the same concerns about two editors in that discussion. How should I proceed with filing that at AE? Two duplicate filings for each editor seems less than ideal. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 00:29, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

It is better to have separate sections. They should not be duplicates, as there should be different evidence for both. I would be certain that you're not just dragging someone to AE over a content dispute, as well. You should be prepared with examples of disruptive behavior. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Posts at noticeboards necessarily draw attention to behaviors of all those involved, including the original poster. BusterD (talk) 17:42, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Can you tag the Israel WikiProject on the 972 discussion?

I have no clue how to do that, but believe it will be productive. Do you know? FortunateSons (talk) 19:48, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Hey, excuse me for not responding to this. I'm not sure how to do that either, nor do I have the interest to figure it out to be honest.

Cheers, IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 01:18, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Alright, thanks FortunateSons (talk) 06:29, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

March 2024

Hello, I'm Cassiopeia. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Benoît Saint Denis, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Cassiopeia talk 01:04, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi IOHANNVSVERVS, Good day. Pls note that all mma fighters's fight record "method of fight" is as per Sherdog based on Wikipedia MMA guidelines. Cassiopeia talk 01:05, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your thorough explanation. I understand my edit was not based on RS but I wrongly thought that the existing text was not based on RS either. I was not aware about fight results being "per Sherdog based on Wikipedia MMA guidelines" and I appreciate you informing me of that.

Also, regarding the content itself, I didn't think a "face crank" was a thing, although per a reddit comment "If it feels like your spine is about to crack or your head's about to come off, it's a neck crank. If it feels like your face is being sheared in half [...] it's a facelock." So I've learned two things from this.

Cheers, IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 01:16, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi, IOHANNVSVERVS, good day. Wikipedia main policy is all about verification and not the true - see Wikipedia:But it's true!. There are many interpretations from media, fans and announced for a fight method, as there are so many reverts and edit warrings among the editors, as such Wikipedia use Sherdog.com (the largest mma fight database) as the default fight method. (The source can always be found at the bottom of the fight record section). Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 01:51, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

It was simply a bad edit, not based on RS.

I'm aware of the relevant policies but was not aware that "the source can always be found at the bottom of the fight record section". Thanks again for taking the time to explain these things and for this additional information.

- IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 04:31, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

All is good. I am a regular experienced MMA editor in English Wikipedia and if you have any question regarding MMA related article, kindly pop to my talk page as I am here to help. Thank you for your contribution. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 04:35, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Good to know, and it's good to see that MMA pages are being well watched over. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 06:04, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

1RR violation

You have violated 1RR on 1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight. Please undo your second recent revert or it will be reported to admin. Mistamystery (talk) 05:19, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Oh yeah, you're right. My bad. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 05:20, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

I still think your edit should be reverted though, could you explain the rationale for your edit? You did not explain it in your edit summary, saying only "NPOV". I don't see how describing the 1948 Palestinian expulsions as "violent" is inaccurate or violates NPOV. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 05:23, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

New section

I apologise for unjustly accusing you of not informing the other editor of the AN discussion. I had seen, but misread, the link you left, which was my fault alone. ——Serial Number 54129 16:39, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, if you could strike it that would be ideal. Also I'm more concerned about your allegation of edit warring, which hasn't been explained. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 19:23, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Any response to this @Serial Number 54129? IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 16:38, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Mukokuseki

Hello! I filed for a dispute resolution regarding the dispute on Mukokuseki which you gave a 3rd opinion on. Please provide your perspective here. ☆SuperNinja2☆ 10:04, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

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Fixed. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 04:31, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, from a DR/N volunteer

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If you do not wish to participate in this case, tell me and I will remove you as a party. Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 01:52, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice, I made a statement. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 04:30, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

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Alexfotios (talk) 21:25, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diplomacy
	I've been very impressed with you on multiple occasions recently, for taking a very even-handed approach to conduct disputes in a very contentious topic area - an ideal that the rest of us would do well to try to live up to. BilledMammal (talk) 07:02, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

1RR

Hey there, your latest revert of me at Weaponization of antisemitism is in violation of the one-revert rule. Please revert yourself. Thank you! Zanahary (talk) 04:25, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

My bad, I'll revert. Also regarding this https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Weaponization_of_antisemitism&curid=75688057&diff=1222984775&oldid=1222981697 I didn't notice that text was a quotation. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 04:51, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

I figured, no worries Zanahary (talk) 05:00, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

UW 3RR

Hello, I noticed that you reverted my comments on the Talk page for the article, https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:There_was_no_such_thing_as_Palestinians, and have done so 4 times today.

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors.

I noted a lack of keeping to a neutral point of view in the article in question and suggested on the Talk page to have that issue addressed. You seem to have responded by violating the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Maradakia (talk) 05:54, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

The revert rules don't apply here, you are not allowed to comment so your edits need to be removed. Please see your talk page. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 06:02, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Waiting for response

On Talk:Zadeh. Mobilustener (talk) 18:03, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Done ✅ IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 03:19, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, one more thing is that there is a hyperlink in the first line there that should probably be converted into a <ref> format. Mobilustener (talk) 16:10, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Sure, if you do the formatting I'll make that change for you. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 03:06, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Tzçäkomg ketymst hàmpùt

Ic küm yçkat cùk iebossùt am töð xàp ümb bytibyb šu fùj cu. Rlatamù bitúkmydúj ketrym cù èúk tomgújb ässù, om llüçst cu teð šu de jiet ÿyjëlloç rlüm rlú ðypâkoše úž èoçoxebeûymùt ij çamstüçstyb úkjeûúk llùk rlot. Èoh nümbtašu ketrym tomt osstanyšënowe jiwe llùk ú llkeffymst iebošúk šu süž ðàb ú xakstëçcújúk iebossù. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.222.64.140 (talk) 04:50, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Peel testimony

Regarding the secret Peel testimony, also see this article by Kessler. Kessler says he has the file. You could write to both Parsons and Kessler to see if either of them will provide it. Please let me know if you succeed. Zero^talk 06:00, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much, I'll see what I can do and I'll let you know how it goes. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 06:26, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

I was told I'd have to contact the archives for access. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 02:43, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Third Opinion Award

		The Third Opinion Award
		Thank you for your input at Talk:2018_Kerala_floods — Celjski Grad (talk) 10:12, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

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Thanks,

— Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 17:53, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

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This thread has closed with a rough consensus of uninvolved administrators to formally warn you against edit warring and violating 1RR in the future. Barkeep49 (talk) 17:13, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

archiving

Hi, We aren't supposed to edit talk page archives but at Talk:Irgun you immediately archived a new thread that you had just started. Unless I misread it. If you want any responses you need to move it back to the main page. Zero^talk 01:48, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice, but I just added a signature and a date to two threads which were missing that info. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 02:35, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

I see it now, sorry for the misunderstanding. Zero^talk 07:00, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Benny Morris

Hello friend,

I noticed you have recently been removing material cited to Benny Morris and sometimes also the accompanying citations from a number of pages. Could you clarify your reason for doing so? Thank you. Brusquedandelion (talk) 05:42, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

It's being done on a case by case basis, I'm not intentiontally seeking to remove content attributed to Morris.

In this recent example, I removed two opinions of Morris for being undue for inclusion. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 06:37, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello

I wasn’t aware that particular restriction extended to talk-page participation beyond the standard edit-request format.

Thanks for explaining that; I appreciate knowing why something has been reverted/removed. Foxmilder (talk) 21:11, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

👍 - IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 21:12, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

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I'm not seeing where "an uninvolved administrator has suggested possible sanctions" against me; I didn't participate in the edit war. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 17:11, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

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Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 19:39, 7 November 2024 (UTC)