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Category:Wikipedia non-empty soft redirected categories

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Hello, HouseBlaster,

We have a big problem. This category should be empty, and it normally is, but now it has over 6,000 categories because, it looks like, bad instructions going to User:JJMC89 bot III when it was instructed to rename categories. Soft redirected categories should be empty and the categories in Category:Wikipedia non-empty soft redirected categories are redirect categories created by JJMC89 bot III but they are full of articles and other categories. It looks like this problem started in mid-December with some renaming requests and JJMC89 bot III created these redirect categories but didn't move the contents of the categories from the category redirect to the actual category they were supposed to be in (or it moved the pages into the redirect categories, I'm not sure).

I noticed this problem last week but it will take a huge effort to figure out how to fix this if it needs to be done manually so I put off inquiring about it until now when I came across another redirect category that wasn't empty. You and User:Fayenatic london are the admins who have the deepest understanding of how categories function so maybe you can come up with a solution that won't take hundreds of editor hours to correct. I'm willing to pitch in to help but I think we first have to understand how this problem happened before we get down to moving thousands of pages to the right categories. Liz Read! Talk! 21:12, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We should also see if this huge mistake is the result of newer editors handling CFD closures. They are tricky! Liz Read! Talk! 21:18, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
MSGJ has been doing a lot of work on templates and modules to update these. See e.g. Module_talk:WikiProject_banner#Changes_for_FM-class, and Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion/Working/Archive 37. I've been assuming that the editors listing all these categories for renaming are also working on template updates to implement the outcomes. I did some housekeeping on backlinks to FM-class articles categories, but the template work is beyond me. (So I left that project to help with moving Timor-Leste pages, until that was taken to Move Review.) – Fayenatic London 21:43, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Liz! It was a result of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 7#Category:Category-Class articles. As usual, this is because of template-generated categories. The jobqueue is still catching up; there were 13,000 of them (you can see the full list at WP:CFDWLM) a week ago so we are making good progress. It should be sorted (fingers crossed!) in less than a week. No manual action is needed; there might be some templates which need updating, but I've been taking care of that as they come up. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 22:00, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was a bit impatient so started running null edits on all of the pages in those categories (as well as the categories themselves when their pages were done), getting through a couple thousand in the last 30 hours or so by starting with the low hanging fruit (the ones with the fewest pages), and working up to the big ones (now with ~130+ pages). I set my minion to ignore any categories with the strings highway, byway, auto trail, road, roads, route, russia because it seemed like the templates that put them there still needed updating.
That's left me with this list of categories where the null edits had no effect:
That list was a bit bigger but I've gone through and manually fixed (I hope) a few others. Would you mind having a quick look through some of my recent edits to check that I was on the right track? I'm fairly sure things like this were correct but I've only really worked on the templates of one or two Wikiprojects so I'd like to be sure; hope I've been more of a help than a hindrance! Aluxosm (talk) 22:24, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
First, thank you for helping out! Edits like this (removing the category from a template's documentation) is absolutely correct.You shouldn't need to make edits like Special:Diff/1268746943; {{category class}} redirects to {{Articles by Quality}}. But the null edits are definitely speeding this process along, and I will do my best to investigate the list you gave me :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 00:37, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My pleasure! I've left it running with the goal of helping it out to the 800 mark where it'll a bit easier to scan through that category manually. Thanks for browsing my changes, good to know I haven't been making a mess haha. No worries about about the superfluous edits where I removed the redirects, I don't plan on "fixing" them anywhere else, WP:RNLI has just been a bit of a pet project and I wanted to make those categories as up to date as possible in case I copied the wixitext elsewhere. Cheers, Aluxosm (talk) 13:06, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Aaand done (ish), under 800 categories now, huzzah! Just the monster ones now. I've uploaded the code to one of my subpages for reference, but for anyone who finds this please take note of the warning at the top. I'm keeping an eye on Template talk:WikiProject U.S. Roads#Redlinked class-rating categories and will run it again when the changes are live. Let me know if there's anything else I can do. Aluxosm (talk) 20:05, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Aluxosm, thank you so much for your help. May I modify the list inline to indicate which items I have taken care of?
MSGJ, it looks like there is some issue with projects opted-out of the standard quality assessment; see e.g. Talk:C2Cl2F4 which is in Category:Disambig-Class List articles. It appears that when a non-PIQA parameter is provided, something gets lost in translation. Is this something you could take a look at? Apologies for handing you yet another thing to do; this looks like it is the home stretch. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 01:39, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ah yes I see the issue. The code uses its own checked to detect whether the page is an article or not. In this case C2Cl2F4 is not actually a disambiguation page so it gets tagged as an "article". This will need some thought. It may be that we have to use the names of the classes (i.e. Disambig) to determine this instead — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:34, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@MSGJ: Thinking about it now, I don't think that C2Cl2F4 is actually in scope of WP:WPLIST (unless all disambiguation pages are in scope for WP:WPLIST)? I've inquired at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lists#Is C2Cl2F4 in scope for WPLIST?. (Obviously, this doesn't negate the need for a solution in the long-term, but the immediate problem appears solvable.)
Throwing out a super crazy idea: Would making use of Module:Resolve category redirect be a solution? I suppose this could be a way to implement all of article->page category moves. It is inelegant, and an immediate (non-technical) problem I can see is that its maintainer is non-admin Tom.Reding, and the module might need(?) to be fully protected to be used on this scale. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 07:51, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There also (?) seems to be a problem on pages where {{WikiProject banner shell}} isn't populated with a WikiProject, such as with Talk:@blueorigin, where Category:NA-Class articles is applied instead of Category:NA-Class pages. Is this another one for you MSGJ? Aluxosm (talk) 11:32, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've just made a change to the sandbox code that I believe should fix this. Aluxosm (talk) 17:34, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've applied the change. Weirdly it's taking two null edits of a page to make it move over. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:41, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Timrollpickering: Good stuff, cheers! I've just started up the script I mentioned above and it seems to be doing the trick, should be clear in a few hours. Aluxosm (talk) 15:54, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Report

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Hello, it's me back but I need to repost a bad problem. A new IP User named 2A00:1851:8007:ECFC:2DC7:F9E5:B63:3DD6 started erasing many of my regularly-read Wikipedia pages. Other users reverted their edits, and I warned the user. Gnu779 (talk) 13:25, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I only see edits from five days ago at their contributions; do you have the right IP? Thanks, HouseBlaster (he/they) 15:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, they removed all essential text in one of my regularly read pages, which contained my template. The page was WP:ZZZ. Gnu779 (talk) 12:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The user fell asleep in contributions over the last few days. Gnu779 (talk) 12:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alright. We generally wait for people to be warned a couple of times before blocking them (some people don't realize they are actually editing the real, live Wikipedia). Additionally, blocks are to be be used as punishment, so even if someone has been warned a billion times we would never block someone if the disruption stopped a few days ago. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 15:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We warned them for a couple of times, but this user isn't disruptive anymore. So we can retreat. Gnu779 (talk) 13:14, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 6#Category:Template:Metadata Population

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Looks like you screwed up the implementation of that discussion and renamed the category to the wrong thing. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:32, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for catching that; fixed. HouseBlaster (he/they) 20:11, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Portal-Class Comics articles of NA-importance

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Hi HouseBlaster. Please can you clarify if the close of this CfD should be interpreted to apply to all such intersection categories of "NA-importance", because your close is not completely clear to me. Thanks — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 23:16, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MSGJ! I meant that is applies to both categories which were tagged – i.e. Category:Portal-Class Comics articles of NA-importance and Category:Template-Class Guyana articles of NA-importance. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 23:38, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for confirming. I'm glad I checked! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:53, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Of course; always happy to help. HouseBlaster (he/they) 18:41, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Books & Bytes – Issue 66

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Question from Wikieditorken (11:56, 11 January 2025)

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Dear Mentor, Very happy that I just finished my first Wikipedia article. The article is now reviewed. Would like to know could I start another new article during the review. Thanks a lot, Ken --Wikieditorken (talk) 11:56, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikieditorken, you are more than welcome to start another article, but Draft:ChoyChoy definitely needs some more work before it is ready for publishing. As Theroadislong said when reviewing your submission, you should explicitly note that it is a restaurant in the article. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 18:13, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot. I am really careless. Wikieditorken (talk) 09:01, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Understood. Thanks a lot. Wikieditorken (talk) 09:09, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Emergency something happened

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Hello, I'm back but I unfortunately have a problem. The article Tux (mascot) had many sections either removed or had trolling, and I think we should protect it. In one case, a user who disappeared from Wikipedia, named Crazycattsniper0 removed tons of useful images in the Gallery. I had to revert it, and after a few weeks, other users helped it back to normal. Then another case occured when an IP added trolling, which seemed funny personally to me, but we had to revert it again. The IP said in the summary, "why is tux repeated?". Do you think we should? Gnu779 (talk) 14:46, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Gnu779: Hi! In the future, requests for protection should go to WP:RFPP. We generally try to avoid protecting except in extreme circumstances – we are encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and protection defeats that purpose. I don't think the disruption is widespread enough to protect it yet. But if there is further disruption feel free to file a request for protection. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 18:21, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I'll try. Gnu779 (talk) 09:48, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Malloallo22 (16:24, 12 January 2025)

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Hello there. Wondering if I can post a link to my bandlab page, and also post some of my artwork? Thanks! --Malloallo22 (talk) 16:24, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Malloallo22: You should not. We have a policy against promoting yourself, and this would cross that line into promotion. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 18:23, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2025-03

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Question from Wikieditorken (03:52, 14 January 2025)

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Dear Mentor, I would like to start my first article, however, it has been rejected 3 times. I tried to use reliable sources as CNN, The Japan Times, GQ, Vogue. I would like to make improvement. Thanks a lot for your help. Ken --Wikieditorken (talk) 03:52, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikieditorken: hi, do you have three reliable sources which are independent of ChoyChoy which describe the restaurant in detail? (Three paragraphs would be ideal ideal.) Thanks, HouseBlaster (he/they) 06:18, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. I do have 3 independent articles.
Therefore, it is not recommended to add sources as CNN titled with "Ten Best" etc...
Also, is Vogue or GQ a reliable sources which I can use.
Really appreciate your help. Wikieditorken (talk) 06:25, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Wikieditorken: I would avoid using "Top ten"-style sources. They tend to be less reliable and more sensationalist. Vogue is a reliable source, as GQ. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 06:31, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Really appreciate your help. I will deleted the references fron CNN and SCMP as it stated ChoyChoy as Top 10 and Top 5. Thanks again. Wikieditorken (talk) 06:34, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Mentor,
Really need your help.
I submitted the Draft:Choy Choy Kitchen carefully and still does not work.
I have tried my best and I really don't know what mistake did I make.
Really appreciate your help.
Best,
Ken Wikieditorken (talk) 08:44, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was asking you to show me the three sources, Wikieditorken, and I would be able to help you. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 08:45, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Mentor,
The following are the links. There are also some links of smaller media and offline media I have not given you.
Really appreciate your help.
Ken
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2023/06/03/food/grace-choy-chef-nakameguro/
https://www.scmp.com/magazines/post-magazine/food-drink/article/3261292/grace-choy-enjoyed-cooking-so-much-she-opened-restaurant-wrote-award-winning-cookbook-then-left-hong
https://www.gqjapan.jp/life/food-restaurant/201900610/grace-choy
https://www.vogue.co.jp/lifestyle/gourmet/2019-07-16/inukai
https://www.scmp.com/magazines/48-hours/article/1845536/five-best-hong-kong-hidden-private-kitchens
https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/hong-kong-best-private-kitchens/index.html
https://lot.dhl.com/this-hong-kong-born-chef-shows-there-are-no-borders-in-the-world-of-good-food/ Wikieditorken (talk) 08:56, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Created with templates {{ORGCRIT assess table}} and {{ORGCRIT assess}}
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor.
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Secondary? Overall value toward ORGCRIT
Yes Some discussions express doubt of the reliability of the Japan Times Yes Appears to have details paragraphs of the kitchen Yes
No Written by Choy herself Yes Yes Yes
No This is using a machine translation, so it might be off. There is some writing from the "I" perspective, meaning that Choy had a hand in writing it. That means it is not independent. Yes GQ is a generally reliable source Yes Yes
Yes Yes Vogue is a generally reliable source Yes Yes
Yes There are some quotes of Choy, but there is enough not quoting Choy that this can be considered independent Not sure if this is reliable No When we take out the non-independent parts (i.e. the quotes), we are left with a couple of sentences, which is not a significant amount of coverage Yes
Yes Yes No Yes
Yes Not sure if this is reliable or not No Not enough coverage of ChoyChoy the restaurant Yes

It appears we have one source which contributes to the notability guideline for businesses. Do you have any other sources like the Vogue source? We need two or three total, so one or two additional sources which tick all four boxes above would be enough to get this article accepted. If additional sources do not exist, there is unfortunately no amount of editing you can do to get this accepted. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 19:42, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Mentor,
Really thanks a lot for your help.
After reading your detail explanation, I got more understanding of the reference.
I feel I have more confidence in writing.
Really appreciate your help.
Best,
Ken Wikieditorken (talk) 00:49, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Mentor,
I have resubmitted.
If I were rejected again, could I add reference of printed magazine which can not be found on-line?
Thanks again,
Ken Wikieditorken (talk) 01:12, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Wikieditorken: You can add references to offline sources if they are reliable. However, the only thing that matters to get your draft accepted is if there are multiple sources which meet all four criteria I showed you above (a good amount of detail, independent of Choy, a secondary source, and reliable). HouseBlaster (he/they) 01:17, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again, Ken Wikieditorken (talk) 01:18, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Mentor @HouseBlaster,
I found that the title of my article is changed from "ChoyChoy" to Choy Choy Kitchen".
Would like to know if I could change it back?
Thanks again,
Ken Wikieditorken (talk) 01:25, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have moved it back, Wikieditorken. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 01:27, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Mentor @HouseBlaster,
Really thanks a lot for your help.
Ken Wikieditorken (talk) 01:30, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Mentor @HouseBlaster,
I submitted my article with 3 references I thought it met the 4 requirements.
However, it was rejected and STOP my submission.
Please help, Really appreciate your help.
Ken
Besides Vogue's references, 2 more references are :
https://www.elle.com/jp/gourmet/gourmet-restaurants/a28328943/choychoykitchen/
https://www.travelerluxe.com/article/desc/170000117 Wikieditorken (talk) 23:08, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Wikieditorken: I am unsure if those are reliable sources; we might consider asking at the reliable sources noticeboard.
@SafariScribe: pinging you for your thoughts as the most recent reviewer. What sources were considered? I think the Vogue source is SIRS, and potentially the Japan Times source. Not sure about the two Ken presented above; I would appreciate your thoughts on if an RSN thread would be appropriate. Thanks, HouseBlaster (he/they) 04:38, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@HouseBlaster, I have commented on the draft. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:49, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@SafariScribe Thanks. I merged them together. Wikieditorken (talk) 11:05, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Help Needed with Moving a Page

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Hi @HouseBlaster,

I hope you’re doing well. I was trying to move the page Student–People's uprising to "July Revolution (Bangladesh)", following a discussion where there was an agreement to rename the page. However, I think I made a mistake during the process, and now I’m unsure how to fix it.

Here’s what I did:

  • I removed the redirect for "July Revolution (Bangladesh)", thinking it would allow me to move the page.
  • I also renamed "July Revolution (Bangladesh)" to another title, but now I feel like I’ve unintentionally caused issues with the page history and structure.

Could you please help me move "Student–People's uprising" to "July Revolution (Bangladesh)" and guide me on how to resolve any mistakes I’ve made?

Thank you for your time and assistance!

Best regards,

UwU.Raihanur (talk) 06:38, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello UwU.Raihanur! To propose a rename in the future, you should go to requested moves. I have  Done the move this time; you need to be either an admin or page mover to do these sorts of moves in the future. If you have a simple, uncontroversial request you need technical help to perform, see WP:RMT. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 06:43, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for your help in resolving this! I appreciate the guidance and will use WP:RM or WP:RMT for any future requests. UwU.Raihanur (talk) 06:53, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Another question :3

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I have over 500 edits but whenever I publish an article it's not publicly accessable through Google and c.o., but you can only access it through a link or when it's linked to somewhere. What can I do so it's publicly available Viceskeeni2 (talk) 19:33, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Viceskeeni2! To be indexed by Google, the page needs to be marked as reviewed by a new page reviewer. There is currently a sizeable backlog of articles needing review, so it might take a minute. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 19:36, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alright thanks Viceskeeni2 (talk) 19:43, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Can you review mine pwease :3 Viceskeeni2 (talk) 19:49, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Viceskeeni2: Unfortunately, I don't review articles on request. HouseBlaster (he/they) 19:51, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ah oke ;( Viceskeeni2 (talk) 20:10, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Content threshold for subtopic articles

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It appears Wikipedia has assigned you to be bothered by me. I'm working on a draft article titled 'Draft:Cheating in online chess', a subtopic of the already existing 'Cheating in chess'. Cheating in online chess in particular is both notable and complex, and many aspects of it would qualify for article level coverage under Wikipedia's requirements, let alone section level. However, I don't wanna make a 100KB article in draft space all by myself. Should I expect to need more information and citations than would be expected of other articles because I'm making one on a subtopic for it to get past reviewers and controversy, and to what extent if so? Do I only need to establish the breadth of the topic with some summaries, or do I have to flesh all of it out? I've read WP:Splitting and I know the regular requirements. Also, are there any means of finding sources you use other than the ones given by Wikipedia? Thanks, and よろしくお願いします。 Kaotao (talk) 08:14, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kaotao! I would start adding a "cheating in online chess" to Cheating in chess and going from there. It is probably notable for Wikipedia, but sometimes we merge notable articles because it is best covered in a different part of the encyclopedia. If the section gets big enough, editors will notice and suggest a split. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 21:15, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Also, is there any way to create a citation consisting of a named reference with additional text at the end? Like {{r|name|a=}} if the 'a' parameter only applied to the specific citation it was being defined on. Kaotao (talk) 15:06, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Kaotao: I am unaware of a way to do that with the <ref>...</ref> markup or with {{r}}. You can manually copy/paste the reference information into a fresh citation, even though it is not as cool. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 18:29, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Aww... what about replicating {ref}'s custom citation look, but with named references/cite-notes instead of endnotes? I think it'd look prettier to do {{ref|x|§3.0}} than it'd be to do {{r|x|at=§3.0}}. Kaotao (talk) 19:29, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think that would be considered a change in WP:CITEVAR, which is a no-no. As much as I dislike {{rp}}, it is probably your only option until m:WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing is deployed. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 19:36, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This site sucks, but at least you don't. Thanks! Kaotao (talk) 20:51, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

COI

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Dear Mentor,

I am editing Grace Choy.

I got the message"A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content policies, particularly neutral point of view. Please discuss further on the talk page. (January 2025) (Learn how and when to remove this message)"

As advised by other Wiki writer, I should disclose the COI even I am a follower of the subject's social media.

I am a follower of ChoyChoy facebook page and I have disclosed ine my user's page.

I try to write as objective as possible. How could I improve more.

Thanks a lot,

Ken Wikieditorken (talk) 08:31, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikieditorken: You should respond at Talk:Grace Choy#Apparent conflict of interest. Are you Kenneth, the husband of Grace Choy? HouseBlaster (he/they) 20:47, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Mentor,
Understood.
Have replied and disclose on my user page.
Thanks a lot for your advise.
Ken Wikieditorken (talk) 22:14, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

COI

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Dear Mentor,

The Article "Grace Choy" is Grace Choy paid a Editor to set up a Wiki for her.

As the editor does not know Chinese and there are many reference.

Also, there were many wrong information.

The editor who edited "Grace Choy" page asked Grace Choy to give him maintainence fee. It is very expensive (~USD2,000/year) and she could not afford it.

Therefore, I tried my very best to correct the article, however, there are some other editors who are giving me difficulty on my editing.

I just want to write the facts and do nothing about promotion.

Would like to have your advice.

Best,

Ken

Wikieditorken (talk) 12:36, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikieditorken: I am traveling until Monday. Would you please ask this at the teahouse? Thanks, HouseBlaster (he/they) 14:33, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot, Mentor. Have a great trip. Wikieditorken (talk) 14:38, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Newman families

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I assume that in your closing you still want us to split the Newmans into two categories, with the Paul Newman-adjacent ones in the new Category:Newman–Woodward family and the Randy Newman-adjacent ones in a recreated Category:Newman family (show business). Correct? Or something else? Mike Selinker (talk) 23:59, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Correct; it appears I forgot to make a listing at WP:CFDWM. My sincere apologies for the confusion. I am on mobile until Monday, so I can't create one now, but you are free to work on the split in the meantime. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 03:37, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm happy to do it. Thanks! Mike Selinker (talk) 03:40, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Always happy to clarify; thank you for doing the legwork! HouseBlaster (he/they) 03:42, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sure thing. Split done! Mike Selinker (talk) 08:53, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fast!

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I made the removed-content-warning template, but I'm not finished yet. I'm scared others might revert it. Gnu779 (talk) 15:18, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The content removal warning template already exists: {{uw-blank1}} (if it's the first warning), {{uw-blank2}} (for the second), etc. After the fourth warning, then we block. Editors are allowed to revert your warnings, but this is taken as a sign that the person has read and is aware of the content of the message. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 18:01, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. I put the {{db-G7 | rationale = useless, templates already exist. {{smiley}} }} template. Gnu779 (talk) 09:48, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merging Iceland article categorisation into European article categorisation

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I have noted that you have just merged two disasters in Iceland categories into Europe. Perhaps you have unilaterally decided that Iceland is geologically part of Europe which is not the case. Its on two tectonic plates which only one is shared with Europe and is in the middle of the Atlantic rather than to its European east. It is politically and historically associated with Europe (although had joint American/British occupation for a period) but presently Iceland is less politically European than Greenland although some want the later to become American and Iceland bless it is considering having a referendum to join the EU. Do you categorise natural disasters in Tahiti or New Caledonia as in Europe just because they are more politically part of EU than Iceland. I hope not. There is also evidence that you disregarded the well justified in my view discussion comments in Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 10 that suggested best action was to group in Category:2020s disasters in Iceland. Please reconsider an action that seems to me to have created categorisation inconsistencies. ChaseKiwi (talk) 04:29, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I did not unilaterally decide that Iceland is part of Europe, but that discussion established consensus to merge the two Iceland disaster categories into Europe categories. One person did in fact suggest merging to Category:2020s disasters in Iceland, but that did not attract anyone else's support. Given consensus was very clear in this instance, I will not be unilaterally undoing my action. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 04:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, you have acted appropriately to ensure that the issue is now minor from both of our likely perspectives and any who feel strongly on the issue of over-categorisation given the political debate that I assume you were unaware of, can correct. If you were unaware of the recent political debate within Iceland at the time you proposed the categorisation to Europe which others aware of the proposal did not challenge as potentially PoV you should ideally declare it in a reply to this comment for the record. At this time many in Iceland appear to want closer ties to Europe, but Icelandic nationalism remains strong. ChaseKiwi (talk) 05:59, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My job as a closer in the discussion is not judge consensus, nothing more and nothing less. My personal knowledge of Iceland's affiliation with Europe is irrelevant. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 06:19, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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