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The Bugle: Issue XCI, October 2013

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A brownie for you!

Thank you for all your help today at the Manchester Girl Geeks Wikipedia editing workshop. CarolynChafer (talk) 20:23, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi Carolyn, you're more than welcome! You know where I am if you need anything. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:52, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

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A quick hi :)

As it was a long time since I sent you one :) How's stuff getting along? Great to see you around. Wifione Message 03:50, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Hey Wifione! Great to see you're still around. Sadly I'm not as active as I used to be due to real life, but I'm still here. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:43, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

2010–2011 Queensland floods

Do you know why you move-protected this page? I only count two moves prior. At any rate in needs to be moved to 2010–11 Queensland floods per WP:YEAR. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 23:51, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I can't remember for the life of me. The chances are I intended the protection to last as long as the article was on the main page, but after nearly tree years, I can't imagine it's still needed so I've unprotected it. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:41, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected Barney pages (resurrection)

It's been a month since. For list of home videos of Barney, see Category:Wikipedia indefinitely semi-protected pages. Is "pending changes" the right level? --George Ho (talk) 17:19, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I'm afraid I don't understand what you want. You want me to evaluate whether pending changes is appropriate for a particular article? I so, give me a link to the article and I'll have a look. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:45, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Barney and the Backyard Gang, Barney in Outer Space, Barney Live In New York City, and more starting with "Barney". Also, List of Barney and Friends episodes and List of Barney and Friends videos. --George Ho (talk) 19:08, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Considering the articles were protected for a full year and that the trouble returned shortly after the expiration of that protection (the reason for the current indefinite protection), I'm not willing to unprotect the articles en masse, because it seems reasonable to assume that the problems would just return in a few weeks, causing everybody a headache. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:13, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Please. Please please please. At least unprotect Barney_in_Outer_Space. Think of the children! Leaving that article NPOV is warping their tender minds! Let the purple dinosaur face the vandals, because being forced to watch the purple dinosaur is clearly[citation needed] what caused their vandal-tendencies in the first place! Justice must be done. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 21:32, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Carl Hewitt

Do you think the BLP issues on Carl Hewitt have subsided such that the full protection can be removed, or at least downgraded? Jackmcbarn (talk) 21:49, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

It has been two and half years, so it's worth thinking about. The best person to ask would be SlimVirgin, since she dealt with some of the original issues. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:20, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Peter Sellers bio, cite from The Northern Echo, are they are reliable-not-gossip source?

Since you're an editor I happen to know from the UK, I present you with this random question. Have you heard of that newspaper? Are they more like national enquirer, or people magazine, or more like the new york times?

Context, if you care... they have a quote from 2005, long after his death, accusing Peter Sellers (who was Jewish I found out today) of purposely rewriting the synopsis of the final character he played before his death, from a generic British conman (is "spiv" even a word?) into a specifically-Jewish conman, which then led to some kind of outcry over the stereotype, back in the 1980s. So as of 2005, is Northern Echo some place you might trust for well-researched clear-headed journalistic integrity, or instead, some place you might suspect of gossip-oriented veiled-connotations yellow tabloidism? I've never heard of them, but apparently they are in the "top fifteen newspapers" for the northern half of the UK. Thanks 74.192.84.101 (talk) 21:21, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi. First thing's first, yes I've heard of it; it's a local paper in County Durham. Think of the NY-specific segment of the New York Times; they're not dissimilar. It's mainly written for a local audience and distributed in a relatively small geographical area (well, a tiny geographical area by American standards). It's not a terrible source, and it might be quite a good source for a fact about the area, but if it's the only source you can find for a claim like that, I'd be very sceptical, and I wouldn't add a claim like that to an article unless I had multiple sources to back it up. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:47, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Appreciate it. Yes, I believe it is the only source that clearly shows specific intent. There is another gent I'm friendly with, also from the UK, who goes by the HQ of the paper on the way home from his work, and says about the same. Talk to you later, thanks. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 05:12, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

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Ada's Angel Award

Ada Lovelace Award
Thank you for all of the effort you put into the Ada Lovelace event in October 2013. This is an award for supporting the Girl Geeks event in Manchester. --Daria Cybulska (WMUK) (talk) 14:14, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi Daria. I don't really do anything special, but thanks. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:36, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
"2 years, 8 months, 26 days" quite an out of hat number made me laugh Hell In A Bucket (talk) 14:24, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. It's 1001 days (cf. One Thousand and One Nights), but the devs, in their infinite wisdom, have changed the definition of a year so it shows up strangely in the log. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:39, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

User:Constantinpro

Hi Harry. I'm just dropping you a note to let you know that I've unblocked this user, per their unblock request. It looks as though this is a kid trying (and failing) to get a handle on Wikipedia as part of a school project, so I'm inclined to give him some leeway and try and point him in the right direction. (No criticism of your block implied; I'd have done the same with the information you had at the time!). I hope that's cool with you; if not, let me know. Yunshui 雲‍水 15:44, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Sure. Thanks for the note. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:50, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

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Newcastle meetups

Hey there. Sorry I missed the last one - ended up with a major conflict - but I'd love to come to the next one. Any idea when it'll be? Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:39, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi Adam, great to hear you're interested. We haven't set a date for the next one yet, but I expect it will be relatively early in 2014, possibly mid-January. If there are any dates that really don't work for you or if you have a strong preference for a Saturday over a Sunday or vice-versa, let me know and I'll do my best to accommodate you. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 10:53, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue XCII, November 2013

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Optical Express

Hi. I would appreciate if you could take a look at the Optical Express Talk Page and, more specifically, my posts about recent edits which have been made using original research. Thanks --Hardlygone (talk) 10:51, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Suppression request

Hi, I got your name from Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to handle RevisionDelete requests. The IP edits I recently rolled back at Eleven plus exam look like cyber-bullying to me. Could you suppress them? Kanguole 12:18, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I agree and have done it. WormTT(talk) 12:40, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! Kanguole 12:55, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Kanguole for getting something done about it; and thanks Dave for handling it. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 10:12, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Potential sockpuppet of Levineps

Recently, User:Oriole85 (contribs) has been sporadically popping up on my watchlist for category-related changes. A lot of new users do that, so it wasn't a particularly noteworthy thing for me. But then he kept showing up with a higher frequency, oftentimes making (what I thought to be) completely unnecessary over-categorizations to articles. I've been on Wikipedia long enough to know that User:Levineps (contribs) is one of the most notorious over-categorizers we've ever seen (and has the community sanctions, block records, and bans to show for it). So, I did about two minutes' worth of research and discovered that Oriole85's account was created / his edits began on November 5, 2013. When was the last edit by Levineps? November 4, 2013. That is not a coincidence IMO. I don't have (a) the time right now, nor (b) the motivation to formally open an SPI, but I'm hoping that one of the many people I'm notifying about this does. If you're wondering why you're being pinged about this, it's because I saw where you were one of the people who has left messages on Levineps' talk page at some point regarding his inappropriate editing. So now, in addition to all of the aforementioned issues with Levineps, it looks like a probably sockpuppet to throw into the mix. Jrcla2 (talk) 05:32, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

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Well played!

The Original Barnstar
For an outstanding voter guide to the 2013 ArbCom elections. Thoughtful and intelligent and entirely a pleasure to read, even if I didn't agree with this or that. Please do keep up the good work in this regard in the future, hopefully getting things up a couple days faster next time around so that your wisdom might more readily permeate the voter base... best regards, —Tim //// Carrite (talk) 04:07, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you! It's nice to hear that somebody actually read it, never mind that they thought it was worth reading! I'll do my best to get next year's up before voting starts. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:05, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Question

I've answered your question. Sorry about the slight delay, I've had an unexpectedly busy weekend.  Roger Davies talk 17:41, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry about the delay; I've been unwell the last few days, but I've revisited it now, and I've added a few notes to my voter guide. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:09, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue XCIII, December 2013

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Help Desk Institute Article

Hi, I apologize if I'm not asking this question in the right place. Your User Talk page is quite advanced. :)

Anyway, I've been working on some computer related articles and wanted to write one about the Help Desk Institute. I noticed it because of the Service Desk Institute article which is a organisation similar in nature but there is confusing information. Let me attempt to explain better:

  • The two organisations do similar things but have changed names between each other independently. At one point SDI was known as HDI and at another point the Help Desk Institute was known as HDI and then changed back. Sound confusing? I know... it is which is why I want to clean up the SDI article and make the HDI article and draw the right lines between both.
  • The Help Desk Institute (commonly refereed to as HDI) has become quite prominent in the last 5 or 6 years so I think it probably should have an article.
  • Finally, I wanted to correct some errors on the Service Desk Institute page and by way of clarification create the Help Desk Institute page but then I saw this message:
A page with this title has previously been deleted.
If you are creating a new page with different content, please continue. If you are recreating a page similar to the previously deleted page, or are unsure, please first contact the deleting administrator using the information provided below.
12:20, 8 March 2011 HJ Mitchell (talk | contribs) deleted page Help Desk Institute (Expired PROD, concern was: tagged with reference concerns for 3 years. Not finding significant coverage of this organization or its publication.)

Because of that I wanted to check with you to see if it was okay to do this. Also I know sometimes when an article has been deleted before if someone attempts to create it again it gets flagged or marked for speedy deletion quite often. With that in mind I'm asking for your support that if I write a nice clean article (to be honest it might start as a stub because of time constraints) that you'll support my re-creation. I want to clear the confusion between the two organisations.

Best regards,

Jasenlee (talk) 08:43, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi, "Expired PROD" just means it was deleted through the PROposed Deletion mechanism, which means somebody suggests it should be deleted, and it's usually deleted after a week if nobody objects. It can be restored on request, or I can email you the text if you want. The trouble is that articles have to have references to third-party sources (like newspaper/magazine articles or books), both to prove that the subject is significant enough to be included in an encyclopaedia, and so that the information in the article can be verified (as encyclopaedia exist to collate information from elsewhere). If you think the HDI meets these criteria, then by all means re-create the article. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:19, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Cold?

Best wishes
for the holidays and 2014 from a warmer place than where you probably are ;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:36, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

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What kind of a retard are you? Skin Game (Novel)

FOLLOW THE RULES. Locking a page to win a content dispute is a violation of policy and you know it, the only reason for your decline is to protect your jackbooted bookburning friends.

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Own THEY CAN NOT DO THIS.

Blocks should not be punitive See also: Wikipedia:Sanctions against editors are not punishment Policy shortcuts: WP:BLOCK#NOTPUNITIVE WP:NOPUNISH Blocks should not be used: in retaliation against users; to disparage other users; as punishment against users; or where there is no current conduct issue of concern.

THEY VIOLATED ALL OF THIS.

I see you have reported this to ANI, so I will leave this to the folks there. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:38, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your suggestions sir :) Hongirid (talk) 17:49, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Satyasraya

Can you take another look at WP:RPP#Satyasraya now that the protecting admin has responded? Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:04, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

I've dropped the protection on the first of the three articles. We'll see how that goes, and if everything's okay, I'll do the same for the other two. Does that seem reasonable? Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:49, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

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AE and a newbie's block

Hi! I wanted to leave my comment on the indef. block on Ryk72 at AE, but it was closed by you when I went there. WP:AE#Phoenix7777. Then I saw this [1] and I left message at [2] and [3]. Secret replied this, but he didn't leave the message he said he would post and he is now retired. I know it's none of my business, but the block seems to be too harsh to me. I think topic ban for 3/6 months would be appropriate. Where can I ask about the validity of the block? ANI? It would be grateful if you could give me a suggestion. Thank you. Oda Mari (talk) 08:57, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi HJ Mitcell and @Oda Mari:. I too am somewhat puzzled by what's happened here, and again it's not really my business but I just happened to be following the train of events to try to get a picture of what happened to this user. Things that seem particularly odd about it, are that:
  • The block reason and message on User:Ryk72's talk page talk repeatedly about "a page under ArbCom sanctions". However, they don't provide any clue as to where those ArbCom sanctions are to be found, and in fact when you look at the ArbCom case in question (the one at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Phoenix7777) there was in fact no action taken by the ArbCom in that case. THe notice to administrators regarding not undoing the block is therefore completely false.
  • Furthermore, the user in question has made repeated protestations that he/she is not a sock puppet or single purpose account, which seem to have been largely ignored. Nobody has replied or given reasons why what he/she says is false. And by the way, I'm not saying that I 100% believe the user's story, it is certainly possible that he/she is a sockpuppet. It's just that the counterargument doesn't seem to have been given any chance at all.
I think the correct response here would be to unblock, post the usual Wikipedia welcome notice and keep an eye on what User:Ryk72 gets up to in the next days/weeks before deciding on further action. Thanks!  — Amakuru (talk) 21:10, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
I may be being hopelessly naïve, but I tend to the same way of thinking - and that the harm to the encyclopedia is not so clear here, and that this user's case may have unfortunately slipped through the cracks with the holidays plus the retirement from administrative duties of the blocking admin - so I am thirding this and have dropped a note with my thoughts to Secret's two designated go-to admins for questions/loose ends. Yngvadottir (talk) 22:04, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi folks. I hate to say it, but the block really isn't anything to do with me; I closed the related AE request as a matter of housekeeping, because the consensus was that there was no further action necessary. I wasn't aware of the block of Ryk72 until you guys brought it to my attention. Unfortunately, there's not a lot I can do, mainly because I don't know the background (had I more time, I'd look into it further) but also because Secret has marked it as an arbitration enforcement block, which means the powers that be will have me hanged, drawn, and quartered if I overturn it unilaterally.

The best thing to do is probably to go back to WP:AE. Start a new section, and follow the "Instructions for appealing an arbitration enforcement action" in the editnotice; explain what you want (a review of the block, a more detailed explanation, or something else) and your rationale. Then notify Secret (even though he's not an admin at the minute, it's still good manners), and wait for uninvolved admins to offer opinions. If Ryk72 wants to make a (concise) statement, have him(?) post it to his talk page and copy it over to AE. I'll have a look on Monday when I have more time, and offer an opinion if I have anything useful to add. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:10, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. (That's why I didn't even think of unblocking the editor myself. Well, maybe for a few seconds.) Ryk72 has indicated that they will be taking the advice to email Arbcom, so I'm hoping that will lead to the Gordian knot being cut; I'm also told at least one e-mail has been sent behind the scenes. I'll keep on keeping an eye on the situation and hope Ryk72 continues being willing to try - and remembering to ping people. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:03, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

There is a template-helpdoc on Ryk72's talkpage where they were blocked, which outlines the possible steps.

  1. Secret themselves can unblock as option #1... not sure about their designated right honourable heirs Nick && Wizardman
  2. other admins cannot de-indef unless either #2) given written authorization on a vellum of goat from ArbCom
  3. other admins cannot de-indef unless orrrrr #3) given clear-substantial-active-consensus-of-univolved at AN (or AN/I)
  4. other admins cannot de-indef unless elssse #4) if consensus in step three is at all unclear, request clarification "on the proper page"
  5. finally, if other avenues were exhausted without consensus yea or nay, some people could revisit step one, and ask Nick or Wizardman to psychically channel the administrative-spirit of Secret

The authors of the help-template don't say what page is specifically "proper" for the fourth-step option... that might be AE as suggested by HJ_Mitchell, or it might be clarification-motion-by-arbcom on the 2010 page where this ruling about the drawn-n-quartered stuff was first made. However, wanted to point out that AN is specifically specified (or AN/I), as the step-three option. Yngvadottir has more background on the details of Ryk's situation than me, but possibly the fastest option is to make a posting at AN/I, and see if a "clear substantial active" consensus develops. We can always scrounge us some vellum, if the AN route turns out to be ineffective.

  p.s. HJ_Mitchell, you've made a potentially-very-serious typo in your reply at 14:10 above, where you say the powers that be will have somebody officially "hanged, drawn, and quartered" ... I've just re-checked the policy language twice, and the sixth pillar is very specific about the procedure, it is drawn first but must not to be slain, thenst to be quartered moste slowly, and finally dost thou hang the four hanks from noticeboard-gibbets at the four corners of the wikiverse, thus that any foolhardy admnim shalt shirley see the carcass, and verily be warnedth fully thereby.

Hope this helps.  :-)   — 74.192.84.101 (talk) 02:50, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Please comment at Kelvin Tan's ongoing peer review!

You have listed yourself as a peer review volunteer interested in general copyediting. Would you like to support the quest to counter systemic bias on Wikipedia? Would you like to read an interesting article about something different? If so, you are invited to give a thorough review of the article Kelvin Tan, which is about a blind Singaporean Mandopop singer. The article is very short and should not take long to review. Hope you enjoy reviewing it as much as I enjoyed writing it. Thanks! 谢谢！Terima kasih! நன்றி! --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 12:35, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Satyasraya

Per Special:Permalink/588541480#Satyasraya, can you drop the protection level on Veera Ballala II and Vikramaditya VI? Thanks, Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:25, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue XCIV, January 2014

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Can you please help me

I am being bullied by Winkelvi 74.12.71.15 (talk) 01:31, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

No, you're not. It is interesting to note you chose this particular admin (being so new to Wikipedia and all) to come and complain to. Note to HJ Mitchell: It appears this IP user is using proxy servers. Call me crazy, but that seems kind of suspicious to me. -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 01:33, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Nothing suspicious at all. I chose this particular admin because I saw the advice they gave you on your Talk page when granting you Rollback rights. Note to HJ Mitchell: Winkelvi continues to make unfounded allegations. Please make him stop. 74.12.71.15 (talk) 02:02, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Following the advice of Gryllida on my (Talk page)
"A specific contributor attitude discussion appears to better belong to his talk page"
I participated in the discussion, only for Winkelvi to immediately remove each of my comments. Are these actions acceptable for a Wikipedia editor in his position? 74.12.71.15 (talk) 02:52, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
Please don't cross-post, promoting your view or a pledge; I appear to have answered on your talk page that removing messages from a talk page is allowed, even though frowned upon. Gryllida 03:20, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

I felt it necessary to point out things that might be referenced which are no longer in plain sight. 74.12.71.15 (talk) 03:30, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Quick ?

User:Petesmith2013 (who you just indeffed) kept posting with a sig that linked to pedros. Sock?? ES&L 16:31, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Difficult to tell; it could be somebody completely unrelated. Pedros hasn't edited though, so I'm inclined to leave it unless/until it does. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:42, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#IHaveAMastersDegree

It was closed as moot due to IHAMD being checkuser blocked with technical evidence; however, the editor was subsequently unblocked (due to identity confirmed), and therefore this thread should be reopened. I will reopen this shortly. I am leaving this note here because you were involved in the discussion regarding what to do about the editor. - Penwhale | dance in the air and follow his steps 18:03, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello

Hi HJ. Thanks for contributing your comments. The discussion regarding me was moved to EdJohnson's talk page [4]. Just FYI the issue was raised by another editor, who took issue with my editing to article like Turks, the Peloponessus and Illyrians (regions, peoples or time frames which fall well outside anything which might be reasonably construed as related to Ancient Macedonians, broadly construed; clarified to me by the Blade at time of imposition (eg can edit any article on eg Slovenia, regions of Greece not realted to Macedonia, and periods like prehistoric or Roman Macedonia which are 'divorced' enough from any potentially 'touchy' topics). I certainly had not 'disrupted' those articles, or entered any edit wars Slovenski Volk (talk) 05:55, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

There is an wp:ae that concerns Slovenski Volks.Alexikoua (talk) 23:09, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your fair arbitration and advice Slovenski Volk (talk) 23:40, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:43, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Operation Flavius

OK. Quis separabit? 21:43, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't mean to. Must have done it automatically while editing. I'll remove it. Quis separabit? 19:17, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 22 January 2014

Move like this

I liked your "get back to doing some the things you enjoy", - one link goes to "awesomely weird", --Gerda of the merry band (talk) 19:23, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Did you know that a blue duck attacks the German Main page right now? - had to happen on the 28th ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:53, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Nomination

Hi Harry. I have filled in the form and listed it at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship. Can you check I haven't missed anything? Thanks. Yaris678 (talk) 18:23, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

It looks good to me. Looks like you added it at the bottom of the list rather than the top, but I'm sure you've already kicked yourself for that! ;) It's looking good so far, so hopefully you'll be okay. I missed my chance to be support #1, so I'll support later in the week! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:58, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Ben Affleck

Protection will expire in four days. There have been some reverts lately. --George Ho (talk) 22:25, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Now there have been two reverts by same IP. George Ho (talk) 07:51, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Optical Express

Hi. Would appreciate comments from neutral editor on inclusion for gripe site section at Talk:Optical_Express. Thanks Hardlygone (talk) 11:49, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Please note that contact details and telephone numbers have been added to the talk page Talk:Optical_Express, I'm not sure if they should be redacted? I despair at the lack of neutrality on this article and repeated editing against consensus. Theroadislong (talk) 00:08, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
I am extremely concerned that two of my edit revisions on the Optical Express talk page have been deleted for being "Purely disruptive material" Please can you explain further? I certainly don't recall making any controversial edits to this page which would require deletion? Kind regards. Theroadislong (talk) 21:32, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Both of your edits are still there. It was an edit that occurred earlier than yours that was actually removed; but to do that, it is necessary to RevDel all edits between the one where the offending text was added and the one where it is removed again, otherwise the offending text would be visible on the intervening edits, such as your two. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:44, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
(edit conflict; essentially what Redrose said) It's noting to worry about—I needed to redact the email that RingARoases posted, but because I didn't get to it as quickly as I should, I had to redact the subsequent edits, because anyone looking at those diffs would be able to see RingARoses' post. It's not a reflection on you. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:46, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation but the email content is still there? Theroadislong (talk) 22:49, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Ah, that's because I'm an idiot! Fixed now. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:55, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi gents. Just wanted to ask what you feel the best next steps are since we seem to be in general agreement re the gripe site not being notable enough for inclusion in the article? Is it worth a request for comment? Thanks Hardlygone (talk) 14:50, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

George Bowie

Can you change protection time to "indefinite"? This is a less-visited article, and vandals will come back to cause trouble. --George Ho (talk) 07:54, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

I really don't like indefinite protections, because they too-often end up remaining in place years after the issues have been resolved; I've extended the pending changes to one year from today, though. If there are still issues in a year's time, I'll happily extend it, and if there are serious issues in the meantime, it's easy enough to add semi-protection for a while. I'll also add it to my watchlist, for what it's worth. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:27, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
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