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Your draft article, Draft:List of Arrowverse locations

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ✗plicit 23:30, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Template:Charles III task force

FYI, now that {{London Bridge task force}} has been merged, I am not sure if this one should be merged as well. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 16:08, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Question

Re: the top icon deletions. Was it all countries, states, cities, (locales etc.) that were to be deleted, or just the few put up for TfD that day? - wolf 08:10, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

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A few TFDs of interest

You might be interested in perusing Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2023 November 28. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:20, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Yeah I saw those. I usually tend to wait a few days to see if there are any keep arguments and see if they have any substance to them. I can't believe there are still templates from that editor that can be sent to TfD. I looked over their page and stopped counting after 200 template deletions. Gonnym (talk) 17:28, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

I stumbled across one today, and it led me to links to a giant pile of them. I suspect that some of them are newly unused after the hundreds of previous deletions eliminated some transclusions. I won't be surprised if there are 100 more. There were a few that I looked at today that are questionable, but I wanted to TFD only the slam dunks. P.S. There are 343 TFD notices on the editor's talk page. P.P.S. I love that we don't mention the editor's name, Voldemort-style. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:57, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

😂 Gonnym (talk) 18:17, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Survivor – A sziget Seasons Infobox

Hello,

You mentioned that there aren't any italics for the previous and next seasons in the infobox for seasons of Survivor - A sziget; that italic's aren't meant to be in the infobox. Can you show me where it states that as I haven't heard about that whatsoever and I don't want to revert your edit without there being any clarity and to avoid a potential edit war? Cheers. Nintenga (talk) 23:19, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

MOS:ITALICS - we don't use italics for random words. The word "Season 1" isn't one of the words we use italics for. Gonnym (talk) 04:53, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, I appreciate it. Wasn't aware of that. Nintenga (talk) 15:14, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Surfing the Menu: The Next Generation moved to draftspace

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John Kilpatrick Turnpike

If it is "West End" and "East End", then why is it when I look at streetview going from State Route 152 onto John Kilpatrick Turnpike it says "West" John Kilpatrick Turnpike if it is the West end and or going to the East end? NintendoTTTEfan2005 (talk) 22:13, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

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Happy holidays!

Hello Gonnym: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Cremastra (talk) 22:01, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

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ICC men's player rankings

I closed this discussion and noticed that there are four more similar tables in ICC men's player rankings that were not included in the discussion. So, you may want to nominate those for deletion as well? Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 15:37, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Also, the same for the tables in ICC women's player rankings? Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 15:40, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

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Infobox In Bigg Boss Malayalam Season 6

Slogan And Translation Are There in Every Bigg Boss Article And Is Necessary. As Of Now I am Not Re-Adding Those; Also I Am Not The One Who Added These First. But Note That Slogan And Translation Will Be Added After Bigg Boss Malayalam Season 6's New Theme And Slogan Has Released. Thereafter Don't Remove These From The Article.. Alen Hermen (talk) 06:22, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

So those 6 articles are doing these wrong. The reality infobox is used on 3500~ articles that don't misuse the infobox to add incorrect parameters into the caption or add trivial information altogether. If you feel that slogan should be added to the infobox, propose it at the template page and see if others agree. Gonnym (talk) 06:26, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

See-I was not The one who added these first. But These are essential. How is it a Problem. Adding these doesn't affect all the 3500 articles.. Alen Hermen (talk) 06:35, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

It does not matter who added the information. It also does not matter that it does not affect the other transclusions. The template is designed by community consensus on which parameters are available and which are not. If a parameter isn't there, it is either because no one has proposed it yet, or that it was proposed and deemed unimportant. If you think it should be added, propose it at Template talk:Infobox television season. Note that a similar request at Template talk:Infobox television#Theme didn't pass.

And finally, How is it a problem? Well, you are passing data to the image caption about the image, when that data is completely unrelated to that image. This causes a MOS:ACCESSABILITY issue for screen reader users who get unrelated information read to them. Gonnym (talk) 06:41, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

What Should I Propose at Template talk Alen Hermen (talk) 06:46, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

That you want to add |slogan= (or whichever else you want) as a parameter. Gonnym (talk) 11:37, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

It's a Sin (TV series

Hi there, did you mean to undo the action by a bot on It's a Sin (TV series)?

AussieWikiDan ^(talk) 09:26, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes. The category was moved and was reverted but the bot cannot undo the actions as it wasn't a 1-1 move but a merge so it had to be done manually. Gonnym (talk) 09:26, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Oh I see. Thanks for the explanation. AussieWikiDan ^(talk) 11:06, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Idle thought

It's interesting how no one cared about {{Malaysian party colour}}, yet a horde of Canucks showed up to defend {{Canadian party colour}} even though they serve exactly the same function. Suppose I shouldn't be surprised, given that it isn't the first time they've wanted their own special niche. Primefac (talk) 15:05, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Yeah I wasn't surprised at all. There are some topic areas that I know will attract editors which automatic oppose stuff. I usually try and get the easier stuff first and then if I'm brave enough, try and nominate things like this. Gonnym (talk) 15:33, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Do you have a plan for Template:Infobox television/styles.css?

Do you have a plan for {{Infobox television/styles.css}}? I poked through the talk page and the template's history, but I did not find any mention of it or implementation of it. If it is not needed, you could put {{Db-g7}} on it (I think this works on CSS pages, but I'm not sure), or I could take it to TFD. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:21, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

I'll speedy it. I can always recreate it if needed. Gonnym (talk) 00:00, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Substituting templates

When substituting a template (e.g. using TemplateSubster) is it possible to only add parameters which are being used? For example in [1] I would prefer the empty category parameter not to be added — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:46, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

@MSGJ not the prettiest of code and there probably is a better way, but this works Template:WikiProject Iowa/sandbox. Gonnym (talk) 12:18, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Yeah that works. We could do similiar with other parameters like listas and living. I've just found Module:Template wrapper which seems useful. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:35, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

I've tried to get it to work but the substitution fails with the module and while checking the doc and talk page I saw that you already noticed that yourself. Gonnym (talk) 13:06, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Here for something else, but done. Could probably do this with the other USA wrappers as well. Primefac (talk) 15:00, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

The method using Module:Unsubst seems to work really well, and you don't need conditionals on each parameter. See Template:WIR and Template:Normdaten for examples. Would it be possible to replace the other wrapper templates with something similiar to avoid unused parameters like this? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:38, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

I don't know that module but if it works for one wrapper it probably can work for others. Gonnym (talk) 00:06, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Deadpool

Firstly, no, Deadpool 3 being in the MCU does not make Deadpool and Deadpool 2 in the MCU. Alien is not part of the Predator series, and The Amazing Spider-Man is not part of the MCU. Secondly, they're not associated with the MCU if the films have nothing to do with the MCU. InfiniteNexus (talk) 09:48, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

I have no idea why you're mass-restoring your BOLD edits rather than discussing first... InfiniteNexus (talk) 09:49, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Are you really comparing the Alien and Predator franchises to the MCU? Even in that franchise itself the connection between the films is very loose. The MCU on the other hand is not. Deadpool 1 leads to Deadpool 2 which leads to Deadpool 3. Deadpool 3 is in the MCU. It does not matter if the connection will be that Deadpool was in a different universe, timeline, erased by Wanda, Kang or Thanos. Is it connected as Iron Man 1? No. But it's still connected. Gonnym (talk) 09:52, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Clearly not from a real-world perspective. The SSU films are also supposedly "connected" to the MCU, but this is all from a story perspective. The first two Deadpool films were produced by a different production company and set in a different franchise. That Disney has decided to keep the same actor for Deadpool (as they have done with several other characters for fan-service/$$$ reasons) is irrelevant from an out-of-universe perspective. Your BOLD edits are clearly not a straightforward situation, and I personally think it was in bad taste to simply restore the contested edits. At the very least, discuss first at WT:MCU. Consider that if it were obvious to everyone that Deadpool 1 and 2 are MCU, somebody would've added tags and mentions in the past weeks and months. InfiniteNexus (talk) 09:59, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

(I'm going offline now, so I won't be able to respond until tomorrow morning.) InfiniteNexus (talk) 10:01, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

SSU films are not connected because Sony has chosen not to connect them. That being said, I wouldn't be opposed to an editor marking them as |mcu=yes so the project can be notified when needed. Regarding Deadpool, since the trailer has just recently released I'm not surprised no one has done the tedious task of going over all related pages, just as I wasn't surprised no one added any of the Inhumans character posters (File:Mike Moh as Triton.jpg) to related categories or tagged them for 6 years until today or most MCU redirects (such as Talk:Iron man (2008 film), 16 years). So when you are asking about that somebody, I'm usually that somebody. Gonnym (talk) 10:26, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

I was not just talking about talk page tags. You'll notice that neither Deadpool (film) nor Deadpool 2 state that they are "part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe", or even "retroactively incorporated into the MCU". List of Marvel Cinematic Universe films does not treat those films as MCU, nor does List of Marvel Cinematic Universe film actors. It's clear the consensus is that they are not considered MCU, and for the reasons I outlined above (from a real-world perspective, nothing that was not originally part of the MCU can be part of the MCU unless it has been officially declared "canon" retroactively). I'll now take this to WT:MCU so more editors can weigh in. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:36, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I agree with Infinite that just because Deadpool & Wolverine is an MCU film does not mean that Deadpool and Deadpool 2 are connected to the MCU. Yes, it was frequently called "Deadpool 3" by trades, although this was never an official name and it was clear from the start of development to be an MCU film. We're not going to add the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man films as covered by the MCU taskforce just because Maguire appeared in No Way Home. The frequent use of MCU tags on non-MCU articles is a bit concerning, though I would suggest using {{WikiProject Comics}} with |marvel=yes as several MCU editors are also part of that. If notifying the MCU taskforce is a concern, you can always notify it of any discussions or alerts for these to gain insight, or just notify WP:FILM as several taskforce members are there also. If we need to better explain what is the scope of the MCU taskfoce, that can be discussed and arranged. Trailblazer101 (talk) 18:48, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

although this was never an official name who cares if the official name is "3" or not. It's the third film in the series. Do you want a citation that says it's a sequel? I'm not sure what your argument is. We're not going to add the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man films as covered by the MCU taskforce just because Maguire appeared in No Way Home as I said above for the SSU films, if someone feels they should, I won't oppose it, however, there really is no real confirmation that the Peter Parkers we saw in NWH are the actual versions from those films. Yes, the stories are the same, but they can just as much be from an slightly different universe. In Deadpool situation it's the same story. Gonnym (talk) 12:05, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

(This discussion is now moot, but ...) There really is no real confirmation that the Peter Parkers we saw in NWH are the actual versions from those films Bingo. In Deadpool situation it's the same story Nope, it's the same situation. Regardless of what is shown and said onscreen, the first two films still have nothing to do with the MCU unless someone from Marvel says otherwise. They're borrowing the same actors, but they're different continuities. And what's to say they won't make changes to the character that clearly contradict what was previously established? We already know there are going to be Deadpool variants, which never existed in the original X-Men films, and Wolverine never had a yellow-and-blue suit (except in the infamous deleted scene), did he? InfiniteNexus (talk) 20:33, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Notice I didn't tag the X men films, did I? Gonnym (talk) 16:28, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:MARC Train station platform templates

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Slash

Thank you for your edits on List of kingdoms in Africa throughout history although I’m a little confused about the use of the slash (/). How am I supposed to show alternative names for the same entity? Former states in Africa often have multiple names that are used interchangeably in academia, most often not alluding to alternative names Alexanderkowal (talk) 10:08, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Also I see the dash I use (-) often get changed to one that looks identical and I’m not sure why Alexanderkowal (talk) 10:10, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

It’s a shame about the use of colour, is there anything I can do to make the classifications stand out more that won’t violate WP:MOS? Alexanderkowal (talk) 10:18, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Regarding the slash, use your words instead, but in that case, you just sent the users to a different article so there isn't really a need for that as that article should explain both names. Regarding the colors, it depends what you want to achieve by that. Do you want to create a note? If so, use {{efn}}. If you just want to be make it colorful, then no, there is nothing to do and you'll have to trust our readers can read. Gonnym (talk) 10:29, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

The inclusion of alternative names is more for someone searching for a particular kingdom, otherwise duplicates would be added. Alexanderkowal (talk) 10:47, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Query

Hello, Gonnym,

I'm coming to you because you understand a lot about templates. If you look at Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion, you'll see a lot of literature categories that suddenly went empty today. I use a tool that indicates who added or removed articles from a category and when this occurred but that came up blank. This sometimes happens when it's a template that automatically adds articles to categories. So, I was wondering if this was happening with these categories and if there was any vandalism or well-intentioned editing that screwed up the categorization. But I don't know what templates could be responsible. Any ideas? Thanks for any advice you can supply. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:21, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

@Liz it seems edits like this by User:Smasongarrison removed them when adding the template. Gonnym (talk) 05:44, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Fixed this now at Template:Writers by nationality and century category header. Gonnym (talk) 05:49, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it! I guess I should have looked at the cases were there was no redirect, instead of just when there was a redirect. Mason (talk) 13:06, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks very much to you both! I came to the right person. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:10, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Michael Douglas

Hi, Gonnym. Nice to meet you. I saw your active participation in WP:FILM and would be grateful for your involvement on actor Michael Douglas' page as well. I put up an edit request detailing the roles, awards, and information currently missing from his page. As I understand the Wiki policies about COI editing, I am not adding these myself, though I am happy to if you give me the green light. Grateful for your time and involvement, BenKalman2024 (talk) 20:05, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Error in Template:Infobox television

Hi Gonnym; This edit introduced duplicate parm errors. It's causing havoc on Category:Articles using duplicate arguments in template calls. Can you fix it? Thanks Davemck (talk) 18:57, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes, thanks for pointing that out. Should be fixed now. Gonnym (talk) 18:59, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

What have you done? Now all film infoboxes show "director" and "writer" in those fields. Kailash29792 (talk) 10:54, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Someone should reverse the edit, this is bad. Exteahans71 (talk) 11:10, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Infobox film

Are you sure about this? I think you need to add triple braces around each of those parameters for "director", "writer", "producer", etc.  — Archer1234 (t·c) 11:08, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

This is being discussed here. Kailash29792 (talk) 11:14, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

The user desprictated it Exteahans71 (talk) 11:16, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! Stupid mistake and should be fixed now. Gonnym (talk) 11:21, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

AWB clean up post-move

Hey Gonnym, for clean up post-move edits such as this, what are you using for the find-and-replace settings? -- Alex_21 _TALK 07:30, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

\(season (\d*)\) -> season $1 Gonnym (talk) 07:31, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Just need to make sure to catch the instances where the infobox has "some camera guy (season 1)" and not accept those changes. Gonnym (talk) 07:32, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Moving redirects

Hello, Gonnym. You moved I Am Groot (season 2) to I Am Groot season 2, but these are both redirects. As such, I Am Groot (season 2) is now a double redirect to I Am Groot season 2. I have fixed these two pages, but I don't know if you have performed similar moves without correcting double redirects, so please check them and fix any errors. I know there are bots that go around fixing these, but as you can see, they don't catch everything. InfiniteNexus (talk) 05:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

The bots will eventually fix these, there are many pages that were moved. Gonnym (talk) 06:00, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Including redirects? InfiniteNexus (talk) 06:02, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

I'd be very surprised if the bot that fixes these things does not fix this. If they don't fix this, then that's a pretty big bug in its design. Gonnym (talk) 06:04, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Double redirects#Double redirects and bots one of these should fix these. Gonnym (talk) 06:45, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

@InfiniteNexus it seems User:EmausBot is cleaning these now. Gonnym (talk) 09:24, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Category redirects

If your premise is that category redirects should not exist at all, then propose a change of policy with respect to them. They are permissible, and for categories that existed at a particular title for a long time before being moved, positively useful. BD2412 T 15:06, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

My premise is that either you've been given misleading information by Tom or you just don't understand the rational behind category redirects. We keep category redirects for only a limited amount of reasons. None of which apply here. What you are creating in mass without consensus (and I should say, WP:MEATBOT applies here) are pointless category redirects that not only will never have any usage but will actually hinder any editor that is trying to find real categories with this style that should be renamed as you are clogging up the search results. Gonnym (talk) 07:46, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

We literally just moved over 6,000 articles with the exact same title update and left a redirect for every single one of them. I have been working with categories for decades, have have never encountered any hindrance from the existence of category redirects. To the contrary, I find them extremely helpful in finding the correct category title when the name of the category is not obvious. Is it not the case that the current title will always appear ahead of a redirect in the search box? BD2412 T 13:24, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Article redirects and category redirects serve two different functions. While I don't like to link to essays, this basically sums my points Wikipedia:Category_redirects_that_should_be_kept#Category_redirects_that_might_be_useful. The old page name is not useful as no one is going to manually search for it and most likely not use the old names in article creations. Even if they do use the old name, I'd rather it be a red link and them learning about the new name instead of them continuing to incorrectly use the old style.

Regarding the search, I'm not sure how category redirects and the primary name appear in search results but that wasn't what I was referring to anyways. I tend to check once in awhile various maintenance sections and fix issues. If I'd do now intitle:"/\(season in the category namespace I'd get all the pages you created instead of only new pages that need to be sent to CFDS to rename name. That was what I meant by saying these are not only unhelpful but hinder actual work. Gonnym (talk) 10:02, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Isn't the CFDS task already done and gone? I tend to doubt that editors using Hotcat or the like will remember that the title scheme has been changed, and if they type in, e.g., "The Simpsons (season 10) episodes", the tool will automatically follow the redirect and populate "The Simpsons season 10 episodes". BD2412 T 16:23, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Move discussion

Hello, I was wondering, what do you think about this move discussion? https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:List_of_Beyblade:_Shogun_Steel_episodes --2A01:5A8:30D:955E:3C27:B37D:3CB:9DE (talk) 07:31, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

My Next Life

Hi, could you please explain how is a double redirect from My Next Life to My Next Life (Grey's Anatomy) to Grey's Anatomy season 12#ep257 better than the disambiguation page I had created? Thanks Broc (talk) 11:34, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

It isn't. But you should never take over a page without doing cleanup work. The page was created for a reason and you're changed deleted that reason. Gonnym (talk) 08:14, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:List of emojis (faces)

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The Template Barnstar

		The Template Barnstar
		Huge thanks for fixing the template for Hawaii Five-0 articles. My three years of computer science programming lessons clearly went down the drain, because I wouldn't have had an idea where to start for something like that . I appreciate the assistance. TheDoctorWho (talk) 16:44, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks :) But its easier when its code you wrote and also recently fixed for the disambiguation change (which was a real headache). Gonnym (talk) 17:20, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Fallout (American TV series) episode redirects to lists

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Baakghost

This redirect is listed for deletion. I think it is better titled Baak ghost and target to Baak (Assamese folklore). Once the RfD ends you can do this? Kailash29792 (talk) 10:17, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're asking here. If the redirect gets deleted you want me to create Baak ghost with the target of Baak (Assamese folklore)? Gonnym (talk) 10:46, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, slightly misspoke. Thought you could move it on your own after the RfD ends with no consensus or keep. Kailash29792 (talk) 10:48, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Ah, well if the RfD ends in a keep then it seems out of place to ignore it and do something else. Gonnym (talk) 10:50, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red

This project was founded nine years ago. It has been the one of the largest projects on Wikipedia. It has 30 sister projects in different languages. It has and has had hundreds of members. It has run over 300 editathons. Thats a lot of people volunteering for hours on end. Are you sure that you have a consensus from that project before you decide to "tidy up". You are removing other peoples work. Please stop, reverse your actions, please .... or can you point to the consensus from that project's members? You are destroying morale IMO for no real benefit. There are other ways of actually adding to Wikipedia and we'd be pleased to discuss how this might happen. Victuallers (talk) 14:52, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Stop with all the drama please. Everything that was before is still there, just compact, like literally every other single project. There is nothing special about WiR that needs duplicate templates on pages. Gonnym (talk) 15:58, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

TFD

Looks like you missed one? Not sure if it's an outlier or overlooked, but your opinion would be useful given the similar nature to other discussions on the page. Primefac (talk) 13:39, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping. Yeah I probably missed while commenting on the rest. Gonnym (talk) 14:22, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Michael Douglas- new request

Hi again, Gonnym. I appreciate all your help so far. I put up another edit request expanding and rearranging the Activism section of Michael Douglas' article. I know you've said I can make these changes on my own after posting on the Talk page; it would be great to have your "sign off" on the post for full transparency to the broader Wiki community. Thank you, BenKalman2024 (talk) 15:23, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

inquisition page

hello Gonnym, thank you for your correction!

I am sorry about the italics, I don't know how it happened, of course it was an accident, but I don't know how to explain it!!! Mcorrlo (talk) 11:24, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

No problem, not a hard fix to do. Gonnym (talk) 11:38, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:The Legend of Zelda (TV series) has been nominated for deletion

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Das Plakat

High there Gonnym, good morning ! Maybe have a short look at my message. How i positioned the image was on purpose. Talking layout is talking aesthetics, I no it's a know-go, ah, I know it's ...

• Just noticed you already answered my post. It does look kind of shabby this way, because the two images are not in line (can't be, first one 's positioned in a frame). That's why I used the intermediade text space to separate the two. We -eell, thatsexactlywhatImean: no talking aesthetics Have a Nice Day !

~) MistaPPPP (talk) 11

03, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

'cuse my cryptic message. Just noticed I sent it to the wrong letterbox. It was @Egeymi who repositioned the image. Good day anyways !MistaPPPP (talk) 11:18, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Ah, ok! But just to add, you can't align as one is in an infobox. To be fair, with such a short article, two images there seems a bit excessive. There is already a link there to the commons image gallery. Gonnym (talk) 12:38, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Deletion nomination of T20 World Cup squads templates

Hey Gonnym, hope you're doing well! I see that you've nominated a few of the T20 World Cup squad templates for deletion. I understand they were left unused, but now I've started linking these templates to the players' articles. So I hope that removes any doubt of templates being unused, if I am wrong about this please correct me, thank you :) Cric editor (talk) 14:08, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

If they are used, then I'll comment on the nomination that I withdraw my deletion. If you have other templates like these (and I think there are more), please also transclude them. Gonnym (talk) 15:16, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes sure, I have started working on it. I'll finish transcluding all twenty of such templates. Cric editor (talk) 17:37, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Gonnym I have also started to add the templates I made on mainspaces. Please withdraw your nominations on the champions trophy ones. Pharaoh496 (talk) 08:50, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Sure, once they are added I'll comment on the nomination. Gonnym (talk) 08:54, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

If you can please remove them before I can get started - as the deletion notice on the template will prompt other editors to remove the template from the said pages. I can add them myself as soon as you can withdraw. As the creator - they are ready to be added and can be added by anyone Pharaoh496 (talk) 08:56, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

I know they can be added by anyone, but they should be added by the person who created the template. I won't withdraw my nomination before they are correctly used, as there could be a situation where at the end of the day, even with the best intentions, they are still left unused. Also, a deletion notice is not an invite for other editors to remove a template. That's what the discussion is for. Gonnym (talk) 09:33, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Have added. Thanks Pharaoh496 (talk) 11:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Withdrawn two of the nominations. Good work! Gonnym (talk) 12:39, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

You can withdraw the other 2 as well now. Pharaoh496 (talk) 12:53, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

A Ghost Story for Christmas

Hi Gonnym, noticed you changing the titles of the Ghost Story for Christmas episodes and tidying up my recent edits, much appreciated. Have already gone through and edited the episode list on the main page and in the individual infoboxes to reflect this.

As you can see I've already added some extra citations, including for the critical reception of the individual films, but that has been slow-going as a lot of the recent commentary is from those on the recent blu-ray releases, which due to copy protection bs won't play on my PC. For this reason I'm having to film then off my TV w/my tablet, then play those back and write the quotes down. Very annoying, and drags out the process of getting them added. Considering the state of some of these articles before I started on them I figure a few extra days of missing citations isn't the worst thing. FreeBard42 (talk) 15:44, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Any updates to old articles is always welcomed. Good work! Gonnym (talk) 15:55, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Regarding the infoboxes, I know the date isn't normally given in the Previous/Next Episode section, but I thought it appropriate given that this is a unique case of an annual anthology show, with gaps between episodes of as much as 27 years. The issue I had was that it says to use rprev and rnext to stop the automatic quotations from appearing, but I couldn't find any documentation on how to use them, hence how we ended up w/"Stigma (1977)" instead of Stigma (1977). If you happened to know how that tag works I would put it to a question of whether the years should be included or not. FreeBard42 (talk) 16:21, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Just don't add the dates. The next episode has an article so that information is there. Gonnym (talk) 16:46, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:PAW Patrol (franchise) has been nominated for merging

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Australia rail transport color templates

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Metrorail (Miami-Dade County) station platform templates

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Cleaning up

I noticed you made an edit comment suggesting I could have made a "cleaner" edit to Claudia Llosa. If you look at the previous edit which made the EL of the type I wikignome on, you'll see that I didn't alter the way previous editors had done the italics. I have enough work to do to fix the IMDb issues without also fixing other editors' foibles. Mike Turnbull (talk) 20:08, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of June (The Handmaid's Tale)

The article June (The Handmaid's Tale) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

WP:INCOMPDAB with two entries, both of which redirect to the same article

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Nomination of Alex (Supergirl) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Alex (Supergirl) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alex (Supergirl) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

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Please Revert Yourself

Please self revert the pages you blanked today that had fostered content errors that you justified on the basis of LINT. WP:LINT gives absolutely NO justification for blanking any page for any reason, and they were pages that did not meet the criteria of WP:STALE or of {{userpage blanked}}, as they were in the userspace of still active users (edited in last 12 months). These pages also were not in conflict with WP:UPNOT or WP:NOT.

Great leeway is given for pages in Userspace for the allowance of various creations and tests. Blanking old pages of active users WILL piss people off and be a detriment to the LINT project. If you are blanking a page, use the proper justification and do NOT blank any old page within an active user's userspace. If you can't fix the error, and STALE/UPB doesn't apply, leave the page alone for someone else to fix.

While I do blank sandbox and draft pages in userspace that I come across, it's been with pages where the user has not edited anything in over 4 years (far exceeding Stale's or Userpage Blanked's criteria) since I still come across users who pop back in after 4 years absence due to my edits who are not always happy of my changes, and I like to minimize these sorts of discussions.

Thank you. Zinnober9 (talk) 20:03, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

No. Gonnym (talk) 20:19, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

"No" is not a valid justification for blanking active users' old pages, nor is Lint (zero blanking permissions), Stale (which requires 12+ months inactivity from any user edits), or Userpage Blanked (which requires 12+ months inactivity from any user edits). Try again. What valid justification are you claiming for the blanking of these pages? Zinnober9 (talk) 20:52, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of June (The Handmaid's Tale) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article June (The Handmaid's Tale) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/June (The Handmaid's Tale) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

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My userspace template

Oops, Gonnym, I misread this diff and inadvertently posted on Jonesey95's talk about it. Moving the conversation here (I will delete from his talk in 24hrs), but can you explain your edit, please? jhawkinson (talk) 16:26, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Re this edit ("Fix Linter errors. I hope you don't mind this minor cleanup edit in your user space") — I do mind. Please look at the edit you just made and explain to me why you think it was appropriate. It appears to be reverting debugging messaging that I have added to my own personal version of a template, on the basis of…well, if a linter was complaining, you have not evidenced the complaint or why it should be heeded. Please revert it (and explain it). jhawkinson (talk) 15:07, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Jhawkinson, that edit you referenced was not done by Jonesey95. This edit was done by Jonesey95 (and fixed a lint error). This other edit as done by Gonnym (and did not fix any lint errors). I've undone Gonnym's edit and left Jonesey95's edit active. You should see the "jhawk-test" text on User:Jhawkinson/Jed S. Rakofff now. -- WOSlinker (talk) 15:39, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

OOPS, MY BAD! I misread the diff! I will move this conversation to @Gonnym's talk in 24hrs. Thanks, WOSlinker, but obviously I could have reverted it myself, I wanted to know why the editor who made the change did so! jhawkinson (talk) 16:23, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Jhawkinson, no worries! I make mistakes sometimes and welcome good-faith talk page dialogue. In this case, the "jhawk-test" text was inside a table but not inside a table cell, which causes a Linter "fostered content" error in which the interior text is rendered outside the table. My edit fixed the fostered content error, causing the interior text to render inside the table. If you want the text outside the table, the proper fix is to move it before or after the table code. If you want it to show up only with the "includeonly" text above it, you can move the closing includeonly tag to encompass it. I hope that helps. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:45, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Well, I'm even more confused now, I think I confused Jonesey95 above, since it wasn't his edit that removed the "jhawk-test" text, that was Gonnym who we're still waiting to hear from? Sigh, sorry for messing up the attribution! jhawkinson (talk) 06:03, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

By what right?!

Please do not edit my page! Lasha-george (talk) 18:42, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Notice that I've actually helped with whatever you wanted to do by fixing WP:LINT errors you incorrectly left. Not closing italics, incorrectly closing small tags, not closing lists. There is no WP:OWN when dealing with these things. Gonnym (talk) 18:45, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

If so, thanks. I thought it was just a vandal. In the future, I am thinking of editing this page as: List of rulers of Georgia.--Lasha-george (talk) 18:49, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Also, this is a Wikipedia exercise, and when it's officially registered as a page, the correction will be made, okay?--Lasha-george (talk) 18:52, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

There are quite a bit more errors on the page but because it is not in English (and quite a bit of text there), it's a bit difficult to fix. Regarding List of rulers of Georgia, good luck! Just make sure you publish it in English :) Gonnym (talk) 18:53, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

I've also noticed there is Lists of Georgian monarchs and related lists so make sure you aren't duplicating content. Gonnym (talk) 18:54, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

The lists of Georgian monarchs are versions of different authors, that is, they are all versions. To the right of the main list of Iberian kings is written See also, where there are versions by different authors. The project is not ready yet.--Lasha-george (talk) 18:59, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

What do you mean by authors? Wikipedia editors? Gonnym (talk) 19:03, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

I too came to ask why you were editing a test page of mine.[2] But strikingly, you didn't even use an edit-summary. That is always a good idea, and incredibly important when you are messing with someone else's test space. DMacks (talk) 02:56, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

No, of course, I meant different versions of historians! To the right of the main list of Iberian kings is written See also (იხილეთ აგრეთვე). Do you mean Wikipedia editors? No, I don't mean editors! Please refrain from editing my personal exercise. Goodbye and good luck...--Lasha-george (talk) 17:10, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for looking at John Gau

In particular, I didn't know about {{Draft categories}}; I should have re-read WP:Drafts#Creating and editing drafts. It still doesn't remove the need to remember to re-enable the cats when moving to mainspace!

I don't know if I will need help moving it though. Is there a block on regular editors moving to a deleted article? David Brooks (talk) 21:56, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

I've removed the links that were for the actor so at least that's ready. Regarding your question, I don't think so. Gonnym (talk) 11:07, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions. Would it breaking protocol too much if I move it without waiting for a formal acceptance? After all, I have been known to create similar articles directly into mainspace. David Brooks (talk) 18:11, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Infobox Television Season on Big Brother U.S. Articles

Hey, me again . It's nearly Big Brother time again, I was taking a glance at the 2023 season, I just realized that the Infobox reads "Big Brother 25" at the top and "Season 25" just below? Is this intentional? It may have always been this way and I might just not be recalling properly, but I wasn't sure if it changed with the updates to the Infobox since the last season ended. With BB U.S. specifically, it was determined that the season number is an official part of the season name. So "Big Brother 25" not "Big Brother season 25" hence the article title and disambiguation method. It just looked slightly odd, because while it is the 25th season of Big Brother, it sort of reads Big Brother 25 Season 25 (the twenty-fifth season of a show called Big Brother 25) based on how the Infobox appears with most other programmes. I'm not quite sure what an alternative could/should look like, but I just wanted to bring it up. Thanks, TheDoctorWho (talk) 05:37, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm also not sure what the previous code did in this situation and it's a bit of work needed to test, which I'm not too keen on doing atm. If the series title is problematic, then use |season_name=. That should work until me or someone else wants to refine the code and get these to work without needing that. Gonnym (talk) 11:35, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

No worries on testing the old code, definitely didn't want to cause trouble. The season_name param will work for the articles! TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:20, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Template:Editnotices/Page/Talk:False or misleading statements by Donald Trump

Thank you for your edit of Template:Editnotices/Page/Talk:False or misleading statements by Donald Trump. One more edit should be made. Please change

<span style="font-size:20px;line-spacing:28px">'''PLEASE READ BEFORE STARTING A NEW THREAD ON THIS TALK PAGE:'''

to

<span style="font-size:20px;line-spacing:28px">'''PLEASE READ BEFORE STARTING A NEW THREAD ON THIS TALK PAGE:'''</span>

to fix a missing end tag. —Anomalocaris (talk) 18:09, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

MS LSR temples

Hi. Concerning the below templates:

• Template:Latest stable software release/Microsoft Office 2016 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Template:Latest stable software release/Microsoft Office 2016 for Mac (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Template:Latest stable software release/Microsoft Office 2019 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

What do we do with these templates?

1. They are hardly ever updated.
2. Each of them have only one transclusion which is their main pages.
3. Two of those templates were created by a blocked or banned user.

Given the fact that the 2013 and 2021 along with others versions were deleted, should those templates as well be nominated for deletion? We can just replace their software infoboxes without invoking their respective LSR templates.102.158.52.50 (talk) 07:47, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure as I'm not editing those types of articles. I suggest asking at Template:Infobox software as that is where these are usually used at. Gonnym (talk) 08:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

You previously nominated similar templates for deletion. I suggest you to do the same for the aforementioned templates.102.158.52.50 (talk) 08:52, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

These are in use. I won't nominate them. Gonnym (talk) 08:53, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Where? In their own pages only. There are no other pages linking to those templates, rendering them redundant probably.102.158.52.50 (talk) 08:59, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

This isn't a discussion. Go nominate them yourself if you want, no one is stopping you. Gonnym (talk) 09:08, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Oh, yes they did last year. I would no longer be nominating or discussing any template following that incident.102.158.52.50 (talk) 09:13, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Category:Decades in the Colony of Virginia has been nominated for merging

Category:Decades in the Colony of Virginia has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 03:08, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks...

Hello good day Gonnym, I want to thank you for your edits and corrections on the page House of Ga'a. Although, I want to know and learn why after all the edits and corrections it wasn't reviewed. Cheers. Ahola .O (talk) 13:00, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

DBR end on newsroom page

Per this - does it need to be added to the template that generates them? Whatever code was there was the result of the DBR bot running normally. I figured that {{Database report/footer}} would cover everything, it feels a little strange that it would somehow fail to. jp×g🗯️ 00:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Template:Database report says at the start: This template summons a bot to update the page with the results of the provided database query. It must be "closed" with {{Database report end}}; the text between these two templates will be replaced by the bot-generated table. It is possible to have multiple reports in one page. and when you don't use it the bot uses the edit summary: Updating database report: periodic update, overwriting rest of page as end template not found, so while I don't think it usually fails, I guess it's safer to use it. Gonnym (talk) 06:05, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Templates not allowed to list their redirects/aliases?

I don't understand this series of reverts. There are plenty of inline maintenance templates that have had their redirects/aliases listed for years; it allows editors to save time, which means that Wikipedia is directly improved, by allowing them to do helpful tasks and not forcing them to carry out pointless busywork. It's true that someone can technically do this by going to the template, figuring out to click on WLH out of the dozen sidebar links, then clicking to exclude transclusions and redirects, then resubmitting.... I don't think it makes any sense to expect/require all editors to be able to do this, least of all normal editors who do not have a great degree of technical sophistication. jp×g🗯️ 18:36, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Moreover: you disagreed with an edit, so you queued up forty-five reverts instead of discussing it? jp×g🗯️ 18:44, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Listing redirects isn't helpful, it's adds unnecessary bloat to the documentation, making the actual documentation lost in the mix and as I've noted, is pointless as the list of redirects is listed in the what links here. There is absolutely no reason to list them on the doc page. You've made a bold edit to add them and got reverted, so you've decided to re-revert? I'll except you to restore the page to the status-quo before you made your additions. Gonnym (talk) 19:22, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Listing redirects is the status quo: look at citation needed's documentation for the last seven years. The entire point of a shortened alias for a template is that it's a direct aid in using the template: this is literally the purpose of having a documentation page. It's nonsensical to call that "bloat" when every single one of these templates contains {{inline cleanup tags}}, which is five thousand bytes listing every single inline cleanup tag. If you think it should be in a {{cot}} or something I'd be glad to go through and do that, but this makes no sense. Everyone who edits Wikipedia is not required to understand and be conversant with every single special page, and it makes no sense to go through actively removing documentation from templates. The idea that "they're in WhatLinksHere" is completely absurd. First of all, WLH gives literally zero indication that it lists redirects -- it says "what links here" -- this is completely opaque to somebody who is not an active technical user. Moreover, even if it did say "list redirects to this template", it's still a completely random quirk of MediaWiki that redirects to a template can be used as shorthand for invoking it. But even if you assume that every user has memorized all of this extremely obscure technical trivia, you've still got the redirect list as a sub-sub-sub menu, one of nineteen separate links under the dropdown for "tools", which requires a new page load and an option select and a reload after that. It's just not a remotely reasonable thing to ask of people. If you want to open an RfC about this, please be my guest. jp×g🗯️ 19:32, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

If you're going to pick one template to show it had a history of redirects, then by that rational, Template:According to whom/doc never had a list of redirects, so that is that template's status-quo. If you want to go that way, then sure, any page that had a history of a list of redirects can keep it, those that didn't, shouldn't.

Regarding the actual issue of redirects, I think you are making redirects seem much more important than they are. If users that don't know how to use the what links here feature, don't know about some random redirects, we as a whole are better off. That just means one less template rename with AWB when it runs on a random page.

My opposition to this still stands as I find it pointless and harmful. If you want to get consensus to add these to pages that didn't have them before, that's your choice, but until then, any page that didn't have a list should be restored to its status-quo. Gonnym (talk) 19:39, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

How in the world could we possibly be "better off" by preventing someone from knowing that you can use {{dubious}} by typing {{dub}}? This sounds like completely pointless, user-hostile gatekeeping.

If the issue here is that you simply DONTLIKE the general concept of template shortcuts like {{dub}} or {{so?}} or {{cn}}, feel free to make a mass-RfD for them, but if this is the genuine objection it would be inanely tendentious to insist that we actively remove template documentation, and actively waste editors' time, so as to satisfy an aesthetic preference about not using template shortcuts. jp×g🗯️ 19:51, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

If this is an issue you simply LIKE adding bloat to templates, feel free to start a discussion and get consensus. This stalling tactic has reached it's course for me. I'm reverting all pages that did not have a previous list. Per WP:BRD, which you've ignored, start a discussion on each page you want to re-add this. I'll be opposing it. Gonnym (talk) 07:45, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Forty-five separate, individual requests for comment? jp×g🗯️ 18:10, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Okay, I have opened a thread at the village pump. jp×g🗯️ 19:14, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

ω

ω is the WikiProject WP:SORTKEY, if you can please revert your edits czar 14:21, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

@Gonnym, you've continued these edits despite being asked to desist and with no edit summary/explanation, so you're risking sanctions now. These edits go against the guideline I linked above. czar 14:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Results of the 2008 Nepalese Constituent Assembly election for deletion

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What did your AWB bot edits do to my shortdesc edits?

I noticed in my watchlist that you used AWB in some articles where I added/modified short descriptions. Most of the edits was just removing a space character and adding it again, so virtually no visible change. May I know what these edits do? What parameter changes did I miss? If I did anything wrong (technical? or not) in editing short descriptions (40 character limit can be broken if necessary, right?), tell me. I'm just 2 months old in Wikipedia, and I appreciate knowing more about particulars in editing.

Some examples of my edits that you followed below:

Korean Ocean Shipping Agency: Revision history - Wikipedia

Go-Bang: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

Ryuji Ito: Revision history - Wikipedia RFNirmala (talk) 12:57, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Hey yes. Apparently you are adding an invalid space character that is causing some issues. Those pages appeared at Wikipedia:Database reports/Short descriptions containing invalid space characters. Gonnym (talk) 13:38, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm sorry for that, but thanks for letting me know. But what would be the usual cause for inputting an invalid space character? Copying some words in the article introduction might include these invalid space characters (e.g. copied text generated from templates, non-breaking spaces)? I use mobile app in editing, so that might lead to a possible answer. RFNirmala (talk) 13:49, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, if you copied it from the article then that was probably the issue. Not a lot you can do really if you can't see the difference between one invisible space character and another. I've asked at the template page if this can somehow be converted into a proper tracking category so pages can appear right away there, which will make fixing these easier. Gonnym (talk) 13:54, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Austria rail transport color templates

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Strange revert at Template:Animanga/Print

I do not understand your edit summary for this revert. This is a standard practice that I have applied to dozens or hundreds of templates. Editors apply italic or bold formatting to template parameters without considering that other editors might place italics or bold markup at the beginning or end of the template parameter value. This can lead to invalid formatting and Linter errors where there is no invalid syntax in the article. Adding a space is a harmless way to separate the markup, fix the rendering, and remove the Linter error. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:43, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Your change didn't fix the error it just moved the error along to somewhere else. Instead of a lint error which is trackable, it now becomes a hidden error, since the issue is still there. Now the title will be bold with two single quotes on each side. If you've changed other templates like that, then that's a shame. Gonnym (talk) 07:49, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Please provide an example of what you are talking about. You can see why I made this harmless edit at this testcase. Your live version has a missing bold end tag and a stray apostrophe. My sandbox version has neither. What are you objecting to in the sandbox version? – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:53, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Bumping. You have made 433 edits since I posted the note above. Meanwhile, articles have formatting errors in them because of your double revert. Do you have an example of how my change to the template would be undesirable? – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:40, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

I don't understand what example you want me to give? |magazine=Shonen Jump ''(2001–2003)''<br>Other magazine ''(2003–2005)'' is obviously incorrect syntax and should never be supported. Either the magazine field should be used for multiple entries and then it should be modified to remove italics from it, or that incorrect usages should be fixed. Supporting incorrect user entered values is the worse solution. According to the template /doc, |magazine= is for the Magazine or anthology in which the work was serialized in. While it isn't written, that usually means the first place it was, not all magazines. If that specific case is a situation where a work is continued in another magazine (and I have no idea if any real case has this), then we can edit the template to use {{Detect singular}} which will then allow to actually use multiple entries with valid italic syntax. However, that should be done only if there are real cases that need this and not because editors misuse this parameter. Gonnym (talk) 08:20, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

I do not see it as obviously incorrect syntax. I have seen this syntax used in many articles in fields where people want to legitimately de-italicize part of a parameter value that is italicized by the template's code. Adding a space to the parameter in the template almost always does the trick, and I've done in dozens or hundreds of times. I don't have the real article case at my fingertips, as I didn't need to edit it (it had no actual errors, just a false positive Linter error), so it is once again lost in the sea of missing end tag articles, but I don't change templates just for fun. I don't know why you object to this one instance. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:42, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Because I don't follow your edits and I obviously did not see them. There are two main issues here.

1. Shonen Jump ''(2001–2003)'' outside your change will make the year in italics, while here the magazine will be in italics. Code should always work as expected everywhere. When you need to hack something like above, that's a sign you are doing something incorrectly.
2. Additionally, is this parameter for multiple magazines? Based on the doc it seems it's not intended for that.

Gonnym (talk) 14:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

The code (in my version of the template) is working as expected for editors: the parameter value is normally italicized, so adding italic markup reverses those italics. This is standard stuff. Unfortunately, because you appear to not want a non-rendered space in the template, that normal reversing (a) does not work, (b) causes a Linter error, and (c) causes an extra ' to appear in the infobox. I don't have an answer for your second question, but I have seen editors justifiably put multiple entries in many infobox parameters. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:55, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

The fact that editors do something does not make it valid. This isn't userspace where we need to accept the fact that editors do whatever they want. If the infobox is not supposed to accept multiple parameters, it shouldn't. I also disagree that it works as expected. A hack is a hack, not an expected standard code. Gonnym (talk) 16:19, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Danny Cohen (television executive)

Hi Gonnym. Nice to meet you. I noticed that you are listed as a member of WP:TV and WP:FILM and thought that perhaps you would not mind taking a look at an edit request I posted for Danny Cohen, who previously was the Director of BBC Television, and is now the President of Access Entertainment. The request can be found at Talk:Danny Cohen (television executive)#Infobox, BBC Three, and Personal life. Thank you for your help. C at Access (talk) 15:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi - posting again just in case you missed my above message. I would greatly appreciate you taking a look! Thanks again, C at Access (talk) 14:43, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Template:Episode counter

I'm just wondering when will you finish removing the template to the remaining 200+ articles? 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 07:56, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi

Could you arrange a refund of Template:Articles per day. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 17:36, 4 August 2024 (UTC).

I'm not an admin, so can't help you there. Gonnym (talk) 17:42, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

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before you put them all up, are you the slightest interested in conversation?

It would be very interesting to see whether you are interested in conversation before you list the rest? JarrahTree 11:31, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Sure. What did you have in mind? Gonnym (talk) 11:32, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

You have created a large amount of mfd before actually conversing, is that how you usually do it? JarrahTree 11:35, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

The MfD is the discussion. Do we need to have a discussion before we have a discussion now? You obviously think having dead WikiProjects is good (see this revert). I think we should get rid of needless clutter that requires editorial maintenance and adds no value. Where do you see this discussion going? Gonnym (talk) 11:40, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Well, there will not be a discussion about the eight moribund Western Australian WikiProjects, because there will be eight discussions. Maybe User:JarrahTree is saying that a single discussion would have been useful, or that bundling the eight discussions would facilitate an overall discussion. I have already !voted to Delete all of the useless WikiProjects, and I don't think that discussion would have changed that, but I think that is what User:JarrahTree may be saying. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:28, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

If there were a single overall conversation about these WikiProjects, I would say that I am beginning to think that some editors seems to see mystical value in WikiProjects, just like some editors see mystical value in portals. Many large and medium-sized WikiProjects have significant functional value for developing the encyclopedia. But it appears that small WikiProjects are created for mystical reasons and kept for mystical reasons. Maybe a discussion somewhere besides MFD might be in order. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:28, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Sharon Carter

Regarding this edit of yours, "their" isn't a pronoun that she uses. Thehunterisshadowy (talk) 19:00, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm sorry you are offended for a fictional character that has stated their preferred pronouns. Gonnym (talk) 09:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

I just wanted to correct you; also, she's referred to with "she" and "her" pronouns. But yeah, I just wanted to correct you. Thehunterisshadowy (talk) 22:01, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

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Sleight of Hand

That's even worse than the usual abandoned WikiProject. Were you looking for unused WikiProjects, or did you just stumble on it?

I wonder how many others are as unused as this one. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:26, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

These appeared in Category:WikiProject banners with errors while we were using the new system to add the templates to the parent categories automatically. Those that didn't have a category that matched the pattern were added there. Gonnym (talk) 13:01, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Edit on Report (TV program)

Hello Gonnym,

I had a quick question, what did you meant by the edit summary on Report (TV program)? The edit summary you wrote was "Remove extraneous per infobox instructions". The information you removed from the page was "(as of January 16, 2023)" from the infobox. Soafy234 (talk) 16:24, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes, the infobox parameter |num_episodes= should only have a number value. The as of should not be entered. The "as of" could just as much be relevant to the entire article. Ideally, the number of episodes should be mentioned in the article itself, and a reference should be attached to it, that way anyone can verify the number stated (the infobox should not add information not mentioned in the article per WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE. Gonnym (talk) 10:52, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Let's Make a Deal

Just a heads-up. When you repaired the infobox on Let's Make a Deal, you accidentally removed the announcers. I restored them. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 04:11, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. That parameter was missing from my cleanup template. Gonnym (talk) 07:17, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Ghost Rider (Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.)

I cleaned up Ghost Rider (Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.) per WP:INCDAB as it was listed in Category:Disambiguation pages with (qualified) titles. All three dab entries are already seem to be listed in Ghost Rider (disambiguation), so I felt I didn't need to change anything about the target. There are no incoming links. IMO, this INCDAB page may as well get deleted, but I didn't want to go the PROD or AFD route. If you can resolve the underlying issue in a better way than my attempt, please do so. Thank you. – sgeureka ^t•c 12:43, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

None of the links appear in Ghost Rider (disambiguation). You might mean other, similar titled, links, which are not these. Gonnym (talk) 13:08, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Addition of a field in the movie template

Hello! Can you add a field concerning voice actors in the movie template?. That would have been useful to have mainly because the starring actors provided voices for the characters in animated motion pictures and so on. 80.212.169.202 (talk) 13:37, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Any new field needs to have consensus to be added, and that can only be done on the /talk page. Gonnym (talk) 14:49, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

WikiProject Ancient Germanic studies

Could you perhaps expand on your snarky edit summary? Primefac and I removed all the duplicate templates. What cleanup is outstanding? – Joe (talk) 06:44, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Redirecting one banner with a completely different name and scope to another banner isn't complete. Even only following WikiProject Council (which you previously quoted) Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Guide/Task forces#Converting existing projects to task forces point #2 says The moved project's previous banner template should not be used on any article talk pages once the banners have been swapped out. This template still has 722 transclusions. As I've stated in previous discussions, I completely agree with your redirects, I just don't agree with how you are doing them and there are process at TfD (and others) that do it better and more complete. In a similar fashion, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Kamala Harris resulted in even more cleanup (other than the banner this time, which I've handled and included around 20 empty categories and a few now-empty report pages based on those empty categories), which Liz commented I think the discussion closure decision was incomplete. There is more to a WikiProject than its main page. Gonnym (talk) 06:58, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

What's the problem with the remaining transclusions? WP Ancient Germanic studies was merged—by consensus—to WP History. All the pages that used to be tagged as in scope of WP Ancient Germanic studies are now tagged as in the scope of WP History (via the redirect). That is the intended outcome of the merge. You could bypass the redirect on the remaining 722 talk pages, I suppose, but that would just be a cosmetic source edit.

I nominated WP Kamala Harris for deletion. It's not my responsibility to implement the redirect outcome and I already informed the inexperienced closer that they had done an incomplete job. – Joe (talk) 07:25, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

What's the problem with the remaining transclusions? having the wikicode say one thing and the produced output being something completely different is a very bad user experience. That isn't only my opinion, but the fact that the guide already states replacing the redirects means that it was the consensus of whatever group of editors that wrote it. And while it wasn't your responsibility, since you nominated the projects and had noticed the issue, you could have gone an additional step and either did what I did and sent the templates to TfD, left a note at TfD, or as you are an admin yourself, saved time by deleting the empty categories yourself. Gonnym (talk) 07:37, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Nine years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:02, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Virgninia categories

Your rename has caused many category redirects to populate and the templates have no instructions for how to fix this (and the creator is now blocked). Please can you sort out the ones in Category:Wikipedia non-empty soft redirected categories so they populate the correct categories. Thanks in advance. Timrollpickering (talk) 10:56, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

I've tagged the relevant categories with speedy rename. These should be fixed within two days. Gonnym (talk) 13:14, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Romania political party name templates

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Years in the Colony of Virginia

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Nonstop

Hi, I added the infoboxes since the writers and directors are different for each season. That was the "reason". Regards, Mikikooo (talk) 08:31, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

I see, but that isn't a valid reason to add infoboxes. Add that information to the actual sections of the bare article. Gonnym (talk) 06:48, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Anchor

Thanks for that. Do you need to add the anchor template and then edit to include to include the episode number and season id?Blethering Scot 13:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

No, I split the edits into two so you'll see both options. The second one has at its basic usage, 4 redirect templates and a short description so it's better, but either works. Gonnym (talk) 13:25, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

User:BenKalman2024

Hello. I find that User:BenKalman2024s edits at Michael Douglas are highly slanted in favor of the article subject. Disclosing a paid COI does not mean POV statements are tolerated. He has repeatedly misused the minor edit checkbox to make edits that in no way can be construed as "only superficially (typographical corrections, etc.), in a way that no editor would be expected to regard as disputable." I'm inclined to wholesale revert all his recent "minor" edits to the article, but since he *is* in contact with editors in good standing such as yourselves, I figure I should first ask you what's up.

For instance, his last edit added "These accusations have never been corroborated or confirmed; no evidence has been found to prove the accusations and no charges were ever filed against Douglas." We never say things like that (since we presume innocence until proven guilty) - this statement uses the Wikipedia voice to reassure the reader he's probably not guilty, which is seriously inappropriate. Why hasn't POV statements like this been removed - and to be honest, the editor cautioned? One recent edit adds that Douglas is a board member of the Eugene O'Neill Theater Center. No source and probably an insignificant fact. Why has nobody posted any user warning templates on his talk page? Are you in contact with him (helping him to improve his edit quality)? If so, I will let you handle the issue. Or am I missing something here? Regards CapnZapp (talk) 11:20, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

If you feel any edit is bad, just revert like you would any other editor. The fact that they disclosed a CoI doesn't make them exempt from bad edits, it just makes your case easier to spot POV edits. The ones I looked at originally seemed fine but I didn't follow up on all later edits. Gonnym (talk) 11:46, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Test lang poem

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User talk:SlimVirgin

This editor died about 3-1/2 years ago. There is no need to leave a notification on her user talk page. Cullen328 (talk) 07:53, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Twinkle is an automated process. If I have to check the history of each person it's going to post on their page, the whole point of using it is lost. I'm sure there is a way to let twinkle know to not post on a specific user page (I don't know what it is). Gonnym (talk) 07:57, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

You are responsible for all of your edits, whether or not you use Twinkle. As WP:TWINKLE says, Never forget that one takes full responsibility for any action performed using Twinkle. Cullen328 (talk) 08:53, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Yes, and where exactly did I fail in my responsibility? Please leave me alone. Gonnym (talk) 09:32, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Ghost Rider (Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Ghost Rider (Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ghost Rider (Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

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A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	Thank you for the portal template changes!!! They look great!!! Mason (talk) 20:55, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Unused module report (rough draft)

You may be interested in User:Jonesey95/Unused module report, which no doubt needs some improvement. You are welcome to fiddle with the query; I copied it from my unused template report with minimal changes. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:05, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Oops, now I see that you have User:Gonnym/sandbox/module. I haven't looked at all to see why mine returns three times the number of yours. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:07, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Yours is probably better then. I didn't add the logic of checking for multiple transclusions on sub-pages (the database wasn't stable when I tested, so tried to make it as simple as possible). Gonnym (talk) 08:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Only change I would add, is to add in the author of the module. It makes life easier as I can just post on the author's page asking for all of them, or know before what I might do. Gonnym (talk) 08:36, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

I think the main difference between our reports was that I was including Module:Sandbox/ pages, which is fruitless. I don't know enough SQL to list the page author. I think it would involve something like "rev_actor FOR rev_parent_id=0 AS 'Page author'," but I don't know the commands to provide. – Jonesey95 (talk) 11:58, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

I used chatgpt to help with the query. It's surprisingly very helpful. Gonnym (talk) 12:09, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Hmm, I should try that. I've never been able to get a foothold on SQL. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:22, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Trout

You're getting a trout for this! It caused all the categories of the project to be emptied and then deleted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:20, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Yes, please be careful when editing templates. But, to be fair, you're not the only editor this has happened to this week. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:32, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Waypoint Entertainment

Hi Gonnym, I work for the production company Waypoint Entertainment, and I'm trying to create a Wikipedia article about them. I see that you are part of WP:Film, so I hope that you'll take the time to look at the draft I have posted here. Would you be willing to move it to main space?

Thank you, Fluffybunny789 (talk) 18:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your comments here Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_September_19. The editor in question should just create a translated version of foreign WP articles if they see fit instead of calling others lazy. Although, I am very wary of machine/Google translations. You need someone with translation skills and strong understanding of both languages. LibStar (talk) 02:40, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Chapter disambiguation pages

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Doomworld

Hi, can you clarify what you mean by "hyjacking a redirecting without creating a new one for the episode"? I already added a link to the top of Cacowards, is that what you meant and you didn't see it? Or did you mean something else? Fragglet (talk) 17:04, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

The redirect itself wasn't created to be deleted. What you did is basically deleted it by hijacking it. If after consensus is reached that the current episode redirect should be moved then it should be moved and fixing incoming links (this redirect had incoming links so you basically also broke articles). In this specific case I also disagree that the website is a primary topic so it should not be moved without sending it to RfD first. Gonnym (talk) 18:08, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

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Category:Arrowverse character redirects has been nominated for merging

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Your draft article, Draft:List of emojis (faces)

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Clickable button 2

Is avoiding the redirect really necessary? There's no harm in having them and you're blowing up my inbox. Primefac (talk) 15:02, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

It's not necessary in the technical sense, no. I do however find a "2" version of templates misleading and confusing even as redirects. On related note though, if in future TfD discussions I need to be precise in what I want to happen (as in "merge, replace all versions of redirects then delete template and all redirects") let me know. Gonnym (talk) 15:07, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

I seem to recall the "2" version was the template more widely-used, which is why it was kept in-situ. In a majority of TFD cases the redirect is kept from a merge when the template names are similar, but in this specific case if there is a problem with the redirect existing I think RFD would be the best place to go rather than editing thousands of templates to avoid said redirect. Primefac (talk) 15:14, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Template:Особа

A tag has been placed on Template:Особа requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a recently created redirect from an implausible typo or misnomer, or other unlikely search term.

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Language template categories

Hello, Gonnym,

So I wouldn't take over HouseBlaster's talk page, would these language template categories be better tagged as CSD C4 or should they stay CSD C1? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:42, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

I feel like they fall somewhere in between, but C4 with IAR is better here as it speeds up the process of the TfD (and hopefully the next phase). The lang-xx templates that were placed in them were deleted with a valid TfD process, which means that they are permanently empty until someone decides in the future to create something that fits that category. Gonnym (talk) 09:41, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Well, Trappist the monk went ahead and deleted them all but left no deletion summary explaining why. Some admins work that way. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:27, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

TOC

Hello. Why do you think a table of contents is always needed? Many stubs have very small leads, then a short history, and then the round-ups (References etc.), often enough to view on one full screen. That's why the "no toc" code is available and often used to unclutter a page. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:07, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Anyone using the new, default skin, does not have any issue with ToC clutter as the ToC is placed on the left-side menu. Editors wishing to hide the skin on older skins, should use their css page to hide it and not create a worse editing experience for the majority of editors and readers. Gonnym (talk) 11:33, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:WikiProject Short descriptions pages

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