User talk:George Ho/Archives/2015/Q1

A bit late I think

[1]: Sorry, but I think they've stopped taking bookings. (Look no jokes about very snug rooms, "barbeque a speciality" and "smoking on top deck only"...) Martinevans123 (talk) 18:39, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for 2014 Glasgow bin lorry crash

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Neutrality of Death of Eric Garner Article

In what way do you think the Death of Eric Garner article is not neutral? You left no comment on the talk page. Mindbuilder (talk) 10:35, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Death of Eric Garner#WP:UNDUE in lead. --George Ho (talk) 20:33, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I don't have a problem with season articles.

I just think there shouldn't be any sublists regarding television seasons if there isn't enough information to warrant them. StewieBaby05 (talk) 23:14, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Robert P. McCulloch (prosecutor)

If you're going to tag an article, please at least join the discussion. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 03:46, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

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Although I'm unhappy it's come to this, I'm glad you've taken the lead in filing the arb request. Thanks. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:19, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

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DYK 121

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Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Christianity and Sexuality opened

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Template:Mariah Carey

I'm pretty sure it was template protection. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 21:29, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

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copyediting

Hi! Thanks for working on the 2015 Congolese protests article. Would you mind fixing any copy-edit problems you saw in that section? It's only about 3 sentences long so it shouldn't take long and I'm hoping to get the article featured on the Homepage as a news story for tomorrow. Thanks again for your help and for all of your other good editing on Wikipedia.Monopoly31121993 (talk) 19:38, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

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edgewater fire

Are you sure you wish to remove this item from January 21 it probably involves 100 families that had all their belongings lost in a fire and as yet it is uncertain if anyone was caught within and died???

• For the second time (previous was 2002) the massive Avalon at Edgewater apartments in Edgewater, New Jersey burn down. (CBS)

thanks--70.190.111.213 (talk) 01:03, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

The fire was tragic, but I couldn't see a related article. Also, I wasn't clear on what "Avalon" refers to, so I removed it. --George Ho (talk) 01:11, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Bureau 121

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Everybody Wants to Rule the World

Hello George, I notice you have tagged the release date for the above song as "needing verification". I cited the journal in which the release date is mentioned, so I am not exactly sure what you mean. Could you please explain? Richard3120 (talk) 10:25, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Someone tried to change the release date. I reverted it and tagged it as needing verification. --George Ho (talk) 17:38, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Oh, I see, thanks. Well, March 22, 1985 is the release date as stated in the music magazine that has been cited, and anyone with access to that magazine will be able to look it up. Can I remove the verification tag? Richard3120 (talk) 20:04, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

If you insist... --George Ho (talk) 20:10, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK: The Indestructibles

Hi I got your message & checked the prose of this article. Don't know how to indicate that imho it's good to go. Thankyou, Manytexts (talk) 18:36, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Look at notice when you editing the page. You should see green and grey checkmarks. --George Ho (talk) 18:37, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Pope Francis' visit to the Philippines

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Veracity

I hope you didn't doubt my veracity. RGloucester — ☎ 02:58, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Sony Pictures Entertainment hack

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DYK for Alberto Nisman

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Christianity and Sexuality case: workshop phase extended

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PC request at RFPP

Could you please explain the "persistent vandalism" that has occurred at Avalon since PC protection was first put into place? I wish you would give my advice more thought. PC still stands in the way of the philosophy that anyone can edit. We should use it only when necessary. — MusikAnimal ^talk 19:59, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

There were two reverts, both by IPs. Albeit low edit count, there's not one decent IP edit. --George Ho (talk) 20:01, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Both edits were clearly made in good faith. We don't protect because of good-faith edits. I don't mean to hound you, and I commend you for your efforts to protect the wiki from disruption, but I am asking you to try to be more conservative in requesting protection. — MusikAnimal ^talk 20:08, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

The Adventures of Tintin

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Template:Did you know nominations/Lilian Knowles

Dear George, thanks for the review of the little article on Lilian Knowles for DYK. I am sorry the references had become detached from the relevant material. I have had ago at tidying it up. Do you think it could be usefully put in the March (Women's History Month) and would you know how to do that? Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 11:45, 17 February 2015 (UTC))

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List of Detentionaire episodes and Dawn (spacecraft)

Probably best to wait and see what happens when the PC expires. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 20:12, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Christianity_and_Sexuality closed

An arbitration request regarding actions of some editors in the Christianity and Sexuality topic has now closed and the decision can be read here. The following remedies have been put in place:

1. User:Esoglou and User:Padresfan94 have been site banned. Both users may appeal their bans after one year.
2. User:Roscelese is indefinitely restricted from making more than one revert per page per day (except for indisputable vandalism and BLP violations), and is required to discuss any content reversions on the page's talk page. They are also prohibited from making rollback-style reverts without providing an explanation, and from engaging in conduct that casts aspersions or personalises disputes.
3. User:Dominus Vobisdu is admonished for edit warring. In addition, they are restricted to one revert per page per day, and are required to discuss content reversions on the article talk page. This restriction may be appealed after twelve months.

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Collaboration

George, you and I once had a major editing conflict, but you are a fantastic editor. Please consider collaborating with me on future articles, especially when it comes to biographies, and gay and lesbian issues. Happy editing!Juneau Mike (talk) 17:34, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Jussie Smollett

Should be OK for a couple of days. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 15:18, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Your move request about Odessa clashes

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Commentary

Hi George. As someone who basically agrees with you on the issues, I have to point out that starting a thread with "RGloucester thinks he rules the world" is counterproductive. What works best in these situations is to be as calm and evenhanded as possible, so that the other party's hyperbole and invective stands out in contrast. Of course you are free to accept or disregard this unsolicited advice as you see fit. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 03:21, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Raymond Chow Kwok-cheung

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something silly.

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Nominated as you told me to

I put up the nomination in the March 15 section of nominations. thank you very much for pointing out that I should put it there.FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 07:34, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

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Spain album title claim

Do you have a source for this claim? Best, jona^(talk) 20:09, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

So Fresh

Yes I've extended it a while longer. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 16:10, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Probably just a IP that gets reassigned. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 20:42, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

WP:JR

You seem to have flipped on your feelings about WP:JR. Can you explain your thinking? Dicklyon (talk) 16:45, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

No, I haven't. I just don't want WP:CAREFUL violated. We must consider consensus for every article's title. I do want a comma preceding an abbreviation removed, but I can't without a proper discussion. By the way, the WP:JR is still disputed, so we have no choice except RMs. --George Ho (talk) 19:13, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Not clear what you mean by "still disputed". This is a very recent dispute for a guideline that's been around since 2009 at least. You certainly did have a choice to not revert my moves that were done in good faith and in accordance with longstanding guidelines. You were making such moves yourself shortly before, which is why I wondered why the change of heart. Dicklyon (talk) 06:29, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Look, we should avoid de-stabilizing Wikipedia. The rule is becoming unpopular, so I can't enforce the rule yet, which is tagged as "disputed". Did you see the tag? --George Ho (talk) 06:32, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Nobody is asking you to enforce a rule. Just wondering why you felt you had to revert my work. Dicklyon (talk) 06:34, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Removal of comma without consensus and discussion was improper, so I had to add it back. Reading similar discussions, not everyone supports or opposes. But there was no unilateral agreement. George Ho (talk) 06:37, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

The long-standing consensus dates from 2009. I've been testing the consensus through the last month, and discussing this on the guideline page, fixing hundreds of article. I don't mind that you disagree and want to discuss it, but in the mean time let us work within established consensus. You don't have to support it, but don't fight it without discussing it first. Dicklyon (talk) 03:57, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

There isn't a consensus to change article titles. A comma may be unnecessary in an article body, but there is no need to remove it either. Let's do it the proper way: start the RM or do another central discussion. Well, there is already one at WT:MOSBIO. This MOS may not apply to every article title. As I learned, we still need substantial support from the consensus at every RM. Even MOS doesn't encourage opposers to accept it. Rather they have chosen policy and traditional use of commas. If you can't start an RM, perhaps I will. --George Ho (talk) 04:01, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Frasier

One month to start and see what happens. If after a month it resumes then it can be reprotected. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 08:24, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Craig v. Radford

Sorry, it was an inadvertant attribute. I am looking into what it means and how to repair. Seblake (talk) 14:30, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Modifed the credit line - do not know what 5x attribute means or how it got there - lifted "Created/expanded" from another candidate template. Seblake (talk) 14:43, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Confused. I thought I removed your problem and you put it back. What is it you want me to do? Seblake (talk) 18:04, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Now I see - missed the 5x qualifier - not going to happen - anything more would be bloat - thanks for your patience. Seblake (talk) 18:34, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

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