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George Galloway

Really it should be in today's current events rather than Thursday's as the result was announced in the early hours of this morning, but I suppose there's an argument which says he had won from the moment the polls closed. Paul MacDermott (talk) 18:01, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

July 2012

In a recent edit to the page Fifty Shades of Grey, you changed one or more words or styles from one national variety of English to another. Because Wikipedia has readers from all over the world, our policy is to respect national varieties of English in Wikipedia articles.

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Your recent editing history at United States foreign aid shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

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Nomination of List of countries by U.S. economic aid vs GDP for deletion

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Merge discussion for Central African Republic Bush War

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April 2013

Your recent editing history at Economy of Greece shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

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May 2013

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.

You have deleted relevant material from Teen Witch that is supported under Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Film Box office: "Determine a consensus from objective (retrospective if possible) sources about how a film performed and why." The factual item in question displays box office competition and is one of many possible reasons why the film flopped at the box office, but is still popular 24 years after its release.

Your second deletion cites Wikipedia:Coatrack which is an essay not a guideline. "Essays may represent widespread norms or minority viewpoints. Consider these views with discretion. Essays are not Wikipedia policies or guidelines." Your first uncited deletion was subjective with the comment "remove irrelevant box office item, extra lines".

Your edits are unhelpful, please stop.009o9 (talk) 14:30, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Your recent editing history at Economy of Greece shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

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The report at WP:3RRN concerning your edit-warring at Economy of Greece is here. Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 00:38, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring and disruptive editing, as you did at Economy of Greece. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.  Bbb23 (talk) 01:21, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Sir, Dame and Sheikh

Hi there,

Sorry, I don't get it what bothers you in the Sir, Dame and Sheikh titles. For me it's apparent that it differs from Mr as 'sheikh' is a title granted to a person by the sovereign (at least in the Middle Eastern monarchies in question, where some of their leaders hold that title), and 'Sir' is the style that signifies that the person was elevated to a knighthood. While on the other hand Mr is not a title, just a form of address. So could you please elaborate what confusion you think this causes? ZBukov (talk) 17:16, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

OK, "Mr." is not the strongest example. But what about my other presented case of "Dr."? Not to mention "Atty", "Rev.", or a slew of other titles that are earned by the person in question?

Also, 'Sheikh' isn't always a title granted to a person from a sovereign. The word can also denote a scholar of Islam, as well as a person's actual name, as in the case of Prime Minister of Bangladesh Sheikh Hasina - hence my reasoning for the title being confusing to some. Farolif (talk) 17:30, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Reverend is not a title either, just a style (form of address). The sheikhs in question apparently hold this title as members of ruling families. But even if they gained their title by virtue of being scholars, this is just no confusion, as they are prime minister or emir nevertheless. The fact that there is a Liberian politician called Prince Johnson (Prince being his given name) doesn't change the fact that there are people who bear the royal title of prince. So still this seems to be no reason to delete valid information from Wikipedia. ZBukov (talk) 19:36, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Nor is there any reason to impose this information on the various articles about state leaders (this one and this one, at current count). Which brings up my alternate point from my first edits to this effect that the titles are unnecessary in the context of these pages. Valid or not, the trivia seems to serve no real purpose, since the persons are "prime minister or emir nevertheless".

(BTW - Reverend is a title. The WP article even acknowledges it as such based on some sources. And why do you continue to ignore my example of the title of "Dr."?) Farolif (talk) 22:19, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

And in response to your comments in the latest edit summaries, I can just as easily advise you to create a whole new article about formal stylings and titles for current state leaders - including the various UN protocols. Farolif (talk) 23:03, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

September 28

Your recent editing history at Hun Sen shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

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If a citation is reliable, and the one you are reverting is, your opinion of that mainstream media presentation does not constitute a reason for you to revert or undue that information. Earl King Jr. (talk) 22:35, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

"13 years old"

Btw the study I linked to is not thirteen, but five, years old. It was published in 2008. --Yalens (talk) 19:55, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

I didn't say the study was 13 years old, I was referring to the 1999-2000 data which it was based on. Farolif (talk) 20:04, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

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I apologize if my remarks on any of the wiki talk pages were inappropriate. My comments were made in the hope that they would contribute towards the betterment of the article in whose talk page they occurred. I shall do my utmost to abide by the rules.

Is it appropriate to highlight any factual errors that may exist in an article?

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As long as you can cite the sources that dispute an article's claims, and aren't simply playing semantics or sharing your opinion on the subject, then you can introduce any factual errors you believe to exist on Wikipedia. Also, it would have been acceptable to respond to this discussion on your own talk page. Farolif (talk) 20:06, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Edit warring at List of current state leaders by date of assumption of office

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Harold Ramis

Thanks for making it worse. Rusted AutoParts 00:41, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

No, not worse. I have attempted a temporary fix that retains information. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 01:34, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Source of spending data for the table at Federal taxation and spending by state

Hi. Last november you updated the tables at Federal taxation and spending by state. Thanks for doing that. I'm having difficulty verifying the values in the spending column from the source for that column, http://www.transparency.gov/state-summary-tabular?tab=By+Location&tabletype=statesummary. Did you have another source or has the format changed since November? I'm going to solve the issue by updating to the most current year, but that source now only shows trillions in one decimal place accuracy and your changes included updating the column to display whole millions and I'd rather not lose accuracy by using one decimal trillions for both columns. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 21:41, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

It looks like the source's methodology for calculating the per state spending data had changed. I've updated the tables accordingly. Farolif (talk) 08:01, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Cool. Thanks! Celestra (talk) 13:44, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

United States Congress members who died in office Article

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June 2014

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by-elections

Sorry, but I think you'll find by-elections do come under the remit of Current events. We have a long-standing consensus of covering them here, in whichever country they happen to take place, and yesterday's was probably more notable than most because of the outcome. This is Paul (talk) 19:36, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

You clearly know nothing about UK politics or the events that are notable in that country, and seem to be just being disruptive for the sake of it. Please stop removing content from pages because you don't personally like it. There has been consensus to include these events for as long as I can remember, and if you don't agree with that you need to discuss it at the appropriate venue. I would also draw your attention to the three revert rule as someone else restored the content, which you promptly removed again. This is Paul (talk) 23:50, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

And what is the venue where this consensus which you speak of was reached? Farolif (talk) 00:16, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

You're certainly demonstrating a degree of ineptitude. I found several international sources (Washington Post, New Zealand Herald, The Australian, etc) mentioning this topic within a couple of minutes. You obviously didn't look. This is Paul (talk) 00:31, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure Commonwealth Realms are still sufficiently attached to the UK to report on political ongoings in the motherland. As for Washington Post, the story is found on their world portal parked behind the headline about dozens of people dying from toxic poisoning during Eid celebrations in Pakistan. Yet there is no attempt to mention that story on the Current Events page, is there? Farolif (talk) 00:45, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Well fix it then! Mjroots (talk) 21:03, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

You're clearly editing in bad faith and will continue to find excuses to remove the information whatever references are provided, so I'm not going to argue with you any more. This is Paul (talk) 01:17, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

FYI, I've reinstated the Rochester and Strood by-election, 2014 to the current events page for today. Per above discussion, you are hereby cautioned that should you remove it again, I will see this as a breach of WP:3RR and/or WP:DE and act accordingly. If you really object to its appearance there, the talk page is there to be used. Mjroots (talk) 20:59, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

The talk page has already been used for this purpose not long ago: Portal talk:Current events/Archive 8#Clacton by-election, 2014. Farolif (talk) 22:47, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that link. I agree with you that not all by-elections are notable enough to appear on the current events page. However, both Clacton and Rochester & Strood are. Future by-elections will need to be assessed on a case-by-case basis. Mjroots (talk) 17:09, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

I agree with Mjroots on this. Although by-elections seem to have been included in the past, I'm not sure all of them are notable enough to appear. The last two were, however, and received significant international coverage as demonstrated. Now to another issue, what is your reason for objecting to the inclusion of details of the Victoria state election, other than which countries happen to be reporting it? This is Paul (talk) 13:52, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

What is your justification for adding the Victorian election details, other than which countries (more pointedly, which select publications) happen to be reporting it? Farolif (talk) 17:30, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

And what is your justification for removing it, other than your own personal objection, which once again is what this seems to be about. What are these "select publications" you mention? What makes them select in your opinion? Your behaviour over the previous issue demonstrated that despite your argument, the number of international sources provided was irrelevant as you were apparently objecting for objection's sake. If you disagree with the inclusion of a piece of information then you need to discuss it on the Portal's talk page rather than edit warring with others. This is Paul (talk) 17:45, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Justification for removing it - how about the fact it is a state election, not a national election? These aren't even listed in the Current Events sidebar. As for publications outside the UK & Australia covering this story - why would an informed reader be surprised that Bloomberg pays attention to the politics of a country with a widely-traded currency? The article you cited in an effort to prove US coverage of the Victoria election mainly focuses on what the election says about Abbott's government and particularly its budget policies. I'm sure investors and speculators - which Bloomberg and publications like it cater to - would find the analysis interesting, but not the typical Wikipedia reader. Farolif (talk) 18:37, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

In which case, we can expect this to be covered by the Wall Street Journal, Financial Times, maybe it'll even get a mention on CNBC? An item doesn't have to appear in the sidebar to be included on that page, and Wikipedia is not about winning. I've no doubt that if/when this appears in other US publications, you'll still find some reason to object. I really don't know what your game is, but life is too short to argue. This is Paul (talk) 19:14, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

If the story doesn't get buried on those other news sources like it is on Bloomberg's site, then we can discuss the importance of the Victorian election to readers outside of Australia and the UK. My point about the sidebar was that the function is generally reserved for nationwide elections, which Victoria is not. In the meantime, I cannot help but notice the hypocrisy of your trumpeting the "not about winning" aspect of Wikipedia while at the same time reverting a completely unrelated change of mine on the Current Events page. Farolif (talk) 21:48, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Winning had nothing to do with it. While the sidebar mentions the event at the moment, it will be updated, and anyone coming back to the page in a few weeks/months from now would not find it. This is Paul (talk) 22:19, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

If the user is looking for past elections, then they can always link to this article from the Current Events election sidebar: National electoral calendar 2014. Even after the sidebar heading gets updated for 2015, the user will still be able to search for previous years' elections by using the templates in the appropriate article. Hope that eases your concerns some. Farolif (talk) 22:43, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

So why mention the Uruguayan election? Because it's not in the sidebar? Under that theory we wouldn't have mentioned the US mid-term elections because they were in the sidebar. 'Tis a strange logic you have there, and perhaps a good reason to take up the RFC advice. This is Paul (talk) 00:06, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Besides the fact that they were national elections, the U.S. mid-term elections saw a fundamental change in the party composition of the federal government, had obvious international significance, and made top news in many countries. Other than that, I can't help but notice that you are now ignoring the issue about the Victoria election after I raised the point that it was not a major story even in the US-based Bloomberg publication. Smoke & mirrors much? Farolif (talk) 02:23, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Moldovan election

You have been removing reference to the Moldovan election on the article for 30 November 2014 because it is on the sidebar. My view which is consistent with current and past practice is that national elections are inherently notable and worth mentioning in articles on current affairs. The list on the sidebar is an aide-memoire for editors who wish to refer readers to the detailed article for more information. Please do not remove reference on this page until you have left a message on the article talk page. Capitalistroadster (talk) 01:06, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

It's fine to use the sidebar as an aid to remind editors to post the results, but a simple notification that the elections are taking place is redundant and unneeded. Farolif (talk) 02:25, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

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Chamber of Deputies (Mexico)

No more reverts or I will block you next time. It is clear you not understand what you are doing. Claiming you do, but showing no proof is not understanding. For the last time:

1. It is doing nothing.
2. One CANNOT have template programming in articles.
3. Whatever you think you are doing, it DOES NOT go into that infobox variable.

I have repeatedly stated why and given links. You have done nothing but revert and say nothing of any substance. I have been saying why along, you MUST discuss, which is something you have failed to do. BRD says for you NOT to revert, but discuss. Bgwhite (talk) 01:31, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

The only link you have given is the WP:CHECKWIKI code error #34 which simply reads:

A template programming element, such as {{{1}}}, #if or #switch, was found. They are usually not needed or a regular template can be substituted instead.

"usually" is not the same as CANNOT. This is an instance where a code is a hands-off means for the infobox to automatically indicate whether there are any current vacancies in the legislative body. It is not doing "nothing", as you continually insist otherwise. As far as I'm concerned, it is you who have done nothing but revert without any substantial explanations. Farolif (talk) 03:15, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Edit warring

Now you're edit warring. I said in my edit summary to go to the talk page, but you ignored that. I already have a discussion opened there. Feel free to throw your two cents in. Rusted AutoParts 14:45, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Social Democratic Party (UK)

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Edit warring on House of Lords

Hi I would very much appreciate it if you would stop trying to impose your opinion by making subtile changes with comments that do not reflect the source. It is tedious and unnecessary. Domdeparis (talk) 12:59, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

And I would very much appreciate it if you tried being an editor and stopped behaving like a bot. Farolif (talk) 13:04, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

The watchlist is there for that, when someone obstinately tries to impose his opinions that are not supported by the sources it's useful to be able to see the changes that he is doing, and you were caught out again doing edit warring. It seems to be something you are quite familiar with if one can judge by your talk page...Domdeparis (talk) 13:32, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

And if you spent as much time assessing the proposed changes rather than their contributors' backgrounds, we might have avoided a great deal of this strife in the first place. Farolif (talk) 14:05, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

It only takes about 15 seconds (i timed myself) to read the contents list and 2 minutes to browse certain subjects (timed myself again) on your talk page to understand how you have a need for drama...the strife is of your making and thanks to you I now understand a lot more about the way certain people think they own certain subjects and are terribly stubborn. I have also learnt some new editing skills for which i should really thank you. ...so thanks! Domdeparis (talk) 15:53, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

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National Parliament of Papua New Guinea

Where did you get the new party numbers when you updated the composition here? The Drover's Wife (talk) 07:12, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

From the official Parliament website. Farolif (talk) 07:45, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Wikiproject

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Baroness Emerton's leave of absence

Hello! It seems to me that we have mixed information on Baroness Emerton's leave of absence from the House of Lords. Minutes of Proceedings of Monday ([1]) say that her leave of absence was ended. On the other hand, the list of ineligible peers ([2]) says that she is on leave of absence and has been since 1 December 2016. What should we think? Is Baroness Emerton on leave of absence or not? --Editor FIN (talk) 03:13, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

It would not be the first time they've made a mix-up like this on the Parliament website. I've sent an inquiry on the matter. Farolif (talk) 03:44, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Have they replied to your inquiry yet? --Editor FIN (talk) 17:45, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

No response & no change to the website. The House went on Easter recess yesterday, so we may have to wait a bit for a resolution on this minor item. Farolif (talk) 17:56, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

She is returned to the House after the general elections. Farolif (talk) 14:28, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Edit warring

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Second account

Is Farliof also you? Or is it an attempt at impersonation?--Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 22:07, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

It's an impersonation. Probably the same individual who was recently disputing the edits on List of living actors from the Golden Age of Hollywood. Farolif (talk) 22:25, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

That's what I thought. I've blocked the account.--Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 22:41, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Strange IP reverter

Can you confirm that these two are making factually inaccurate edits? 49 was blocked for a strange pattern of reverts, so now 106 is doing the same thing but without edit summaries. I've asked them to start communicating when reverting, but my hopes aren't high. —Guanaco 10:03, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

• 106.78.224.109 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
• 49.14.93.97 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)

It's all disruptive editing. I was the one who reported 49 earlier this week, but the only result was the IP getting blocked for 36 hours. The person has already moved on to other locations with the same articles as their targets. Farolif (talk) 17:16, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Your removal of Maksym Shapoval

I've reverted your removal of Maksym Shapoval from the recent death list. Your rationale was that his article was created after death. I don't think it's a sufficient reason to remove a valid entry from the list, especially considering the media attention and political controversy surrounding it: [3][4]. --BorgQueen (talk) 08:13, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

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WP:JDLI isn't a valid reason for the removal of the Chris Christie thing. [5] The story has been featured in multiple reliable references and is tied to an ongoing event in New Jersey. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 04:14, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

No laws have been violated. Most readers are familiar with Christie's name only because of his previous presidential ambitions. I believe the common term for this kind of headline is 'clickbait'. Farolif (talk) 06:14, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

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Hello, how do you know the number of People's Representative Council member that vacant? --Hddty. (talk) 12:02, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

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Please stop your disruptive editing as you did to Geoffrey Hayes, you'll be blocked from editing Wikipedia. MissMinecraft (talk) 17:51, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Huh? Farolif (talk) 17:52, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

You have now been blocked from editing Wikipedia for 144 hours. MissMinecraft (talk) 17:57, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Haha. Get help, woman. Farolif (talk) 18:11, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

I wouldn't laugh if I were u. Guess who iis the one that is blocked? If u continue to vandalize, you'll be blocked from editing Wikipedia indefinitely. I'll ask some admin to do so, don't get too cocky, buddy. MissMinecraft (talk) 18:48, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Start by asking C.Fred (see above). He might still be looking for an excuse to kick me off Wikipedia! Farolif (talk) 18:55, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

National Peoples Party

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Another similar case is at Pakistan Muslim League (F). Johnuniq (talk) 03:59, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

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On the page List of members of the House of Lords, I had moved Lord Hague of Richmond to the list of peers on leave of absence according to the House of Lords Minutes for 5 January 2021: https://lordsbusiness.parliament.uk/ItemOfBusiness?itemOfBusinessId=89895&sectionId=40&businessPaperDate=2021-01-05. After you reverted my edit, I noticed that there seems to be an error in the Minutes as he has voted in the House several times between 6 January and 14 January. --Editor FIN (talk) 04:23, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

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Stop your unconstructive attitude against my sidebar inclusions. You are not correcting anything, as you try to justify yourself, but removing content that I justifiably add. You do the same with other users' edits. Stop your unconstructive attitude against my sidebar inclusions. You are not correcting anything, as you try to justify yourself, but removing content that I justifiably add. You do the same with other users' edits. Your attitude of deleting non Anglo-Saxon people who are added is not protected under any rule or MOS, but of a thought if not racist, it almost is, and that is not admissible on Wikipedia. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 08:21, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

So far, you're the only one mentioning anything about race, and the implication that I'm the one being prejudiced is rather peculiar coming from someone who recently removed a couple of distinctly non-Anglo Saxon people from the list, per their own convenient reasoning. It's a safe bet that if you were to look beyond your own agenda regarding the Sidebar (& probably elsewhere on WP, too), then you would notice the recent deaths which are added by myself and other editors aren't all from a single cultural/ethnic group. Fortunately, most of the other contributions to the portal – not just the RD section – are still generally aligned to the purpose of keeping the lists relevant to readers. Farolif (talk) 16:08, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

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• • And exactly how is it disruptive of me to update the party's current seat counts within the national/provincial legislatures? Are you disputing the numbers which I've provided? Farolif (talk) 23:23, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

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Hi Farolif, I've created this new template that may come in handy when updating the Recent deaths section in future. Through it, you can simply substitute the template wrapped around a name (linked or not) and it will automatically fetch the date from Wikidata. If their Wikidata hasn't been updated yet, if the exact date is unknown or the name has not died, it will return "?" in place of the date (which can be previewed in advance). ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 02:15, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Farolif, I was just wondering if you had any feedback or encountered any issues with this template? ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 00:55, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Neveselbert I have not given it a try yet, and I feel like the way it works is a bit backwards for the Sidebar or a similar list. If I'm understanding its intended function, then applying this template will cause a date to automatically change whenever the Wikidata item is updated? This might cause more confusion than anything else, because it would make a date suddenly show as out of order from others in the original edit, until the list is corrected after the fact. So, whether you use this template or not, it's very likely there will still need to be a revision to the list whenever a DoD changes. (What issue were you hoping to resolve by coming up with this template?) Farolif (talk) 04:30, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Sorry for not being clear Farolif, it won't automatically change whenever a Wikidata item is updated as the template is intended to be substituted, not transcluded. The output when substituted will be entirely "clean" and look exactly the same in wikitext as other entries that have not been included using the template. I wasn't really hoping to "resolve" anything exactly, it's just a convenience template that fetches information about an item that you would otherwise have to copy and paste. (I've just recently added a functionality that automatically italicises individual animals through individual animal (Q26401003).) ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 11:41, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Kevin Cooney (actor)

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Please stop changing proper en dashes to minus characters

In this edit and many others, you changed proper en dash characters to minus characters. Please do not do that.

Also, {{resize}} can't wrap multi-line content. In general, sidebar and navbox text is the right size; leave it as it is. This edit, for example, changing the text size to 99%, appears to be useless. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:28, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

copied from User talk:Jonesey95 per WP:TALKFORK.
Regarding your hasty reverts of my recent work and your message on my talk page:

{{resize}} can't wrap multi-line content. In general, sidebar and navbox text is the right size; leave it as it is. This edit, for example, changing the text size to 99%, appears to be useless.

The example you refer to isn't useless. It helps the title Abyssinian–Persian wars fit into a single line of the width-restricted campaignbox, instead of wrapping awkwardly to two lines, which the other campaignboxes are back to doing now that you've undone my edits on them. (Also, a template's title is not multi-line content!) Farolif (talk) 05:48, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Different web browsers display text at different sizes, and some editors and readers change the default font and font size, which can cause wrapping. Unfortunately, just because text wraps or doesn't wrap for you, that doesn't mean that it wraps or doesn't wrap for someone else. You can't fix everyone's display by resizing text from 100% to 99% or 97%; it just introduces unnecessary inconsistency. Please refrain from this resizing and from changing dashes to minus characters. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:30, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

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State Opening of Parliament

Do we really know these people returned from leave to attend? HulkNorris (talk) 09:45, 11 November 2023 (UTC) I would be interested in learning more about that. HulkNorris (talk) 13:30, 11 November 2023 (UTC) It would be nice to hear from an expert about that theme. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HulkNorris (talk • contribs) 20:01, 14 November 2023 (UTC) Why are you not willimng to help?HulkNorris (talk) 17:03, 16 November 2023 (UTC) After you have failed to answer my question, I hope we can do better in the future as the work and members of the House of Lords are of interest for me. HulkNorris (talk) 19:05, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

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Alice Parker

You have removed Alice Parker's name from the sidebar of recent deaths at Portal:Current events twice now - may I ask why? She is an extremely important figure in American choral music. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:51, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• If she's as important as you speculate she is was, then why is the Star Tribune article the only reputable news item I can find about her passing? Farolif (talk) 02:32, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

I don't know, though I have my suspicions. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:49, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

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Nowraps

Hello Farolif. Regarding this edit, the line you added the {{nobr}} to cannot wrap if the one below it is nowrapped – as both are in the same cell, the cell is fixed to the width of the longer line, so the shorter one would never wrap. Cheers, Number 57 21:44, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

• The lines are close enough in size that, depending on the device & browser which is used, either of them can seem the longer of the two. When I viewed your version on a mobile screen, the top line still wrapped into a second line. Farolif (talk) 21:57, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Ah, weird. No worries then. Cheers, Number 57 22:03, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

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Eötvös works

I don't understand your tag for the works by a composer. For prolific people - such as Mozart - we split, but for Eötvös, I don't think that's needed. Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:05, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

I wasn't suggesting for the article to be split. Farolif (talk) 15:41, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

I saw that but the detail is just normal for works, - compare other composers, Aribert Reimann for example. It's the end of the article, - people reading there will know what to expect. It's clearly structured by subheaders to not be a mass of information. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

The list of works on Reimann's article is a good model to use for this – it focuses on his major compositions and is nowhere near as exhaustive as Eötvös' current list. Farolif (talk) 21:15, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

(Do you know that blank lines confuse the editor dealing with indenting?) I have no idea if the list is even exhaustive. Bach's is, and if you want fewer works in the bio, I'll have the exhaustive list split, for those who are interested. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:40, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

how about a citation re your edit to Île Amsterdam

"It is the northernmost volcanic island within the Antarctic Plate." The article does not mention tectonics anywhere else and it is unclear to most readers for that matter why in lead as a significant fact when such more logically dealt with in a geology subsection of geography. Is it the postulated hot spot or relatively near by triple junction that is relevant to it being a volcano ? ChaseKiwi (talk) 01:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

I specified the citation for the added item. Farolif (talk) 02:04, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Ta, that helped me tidy up page and create geology section. Much appreciated as when I last visited page in Nov 23 I had missed the July 2023 publication that tidies up the island's formation and that the pre-existing volcano reference had just copied GVP entry so that allowed an original source change. ChaseKiwi (talk) 13:01, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

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