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Welcome to Wikipedia, Dippiljemmy! Thank you for your contributions. I am Kerry Raymond and I have been editing Wikipedia for some time, so if you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. You can also check out Wikipedia:Questions or type {{help me}} at the bottom of this page. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Newspaper citations

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I noticed you were adding newspaper citations and realised you are doing it the hard way. For example, in Lindeman Island you added:

{{cite news|title=Massacre of Two Men by the Blacks on Shaw's Island|accessdate=20 July 2017|publisher=The Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Advertiser|date=8 October 1861}}

There is a much easier way that produces a much more detailed citation. If you look at that newspaper article in Trove, then over on the left-hand edge of screen is a toolbar with the first item being an "i" in a circle. If you click on that, you will get the citation for this newspaper article in a number of popular formats. If you scroll down, you will find the Wikipedia citation for it:

{{cite news |url=http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18684490 |title=MASSACRE OF TWO MEN BY THE BLACKS ON SHAW'S ISLAND. |newspaper=[[The Maitland Mercury And Hunter River General Advertiser]] |volume=XVIII, |issue=2088 |location=New South Wales, Australia |date=8 October 1861 |accessdate=20 July 2017 |page=2 |via=National Library of Australia}}

You can just copy and paste this into Wikipedia. Much less work for you and it gives a better citation (contains a URL, page numbers etc). Kerry (talk) 12:38, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Visual editor

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I also notice that you are not using the Visual Editor. Many new editors find that easier to use as it is "what you see is what you get". To enable it as an option, go to Preferences (top right of screen) > Editing and then scroll down to "Editing mode" and change it to "Show me both editor tabs". Then at the top of articles you will get a choice of "edit" (the Visual Editor) or "edit source" (the editor you are currently using). Then you can use either one as you prefer for each edit. Kerry (talk) 12:42, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Edric Norfolk Vaux Morisset has been accepted

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Edric Norfolk Vaux Morisset, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
The article has been assessed as B-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. Note that because you are a logged-in user, you can create articles yourself, and don't have to post a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer.

Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia!

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Walter David Taylor Powell has been accepted

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Walter David Taylor Powell, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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Theroadislong (talk) 10:42, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I would concur with the suggestion about creating article directly (without going through Articles for Creation). Firstly, because you are very good with your use of citations (which is one of the biggest problem areas with new users creating new articles) and secondly because Articles for Creation is quite backlogged at the moment, so removing articles that don't need to be in that workflow makes life a bit easier for the reviewers. If you have any questions about creating articles directly, please don't hesitate to ask. Kerry (talk) 00:43, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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The Original Barnstar
Excellent work on Walter David Taylor Powell thank you! Theroadislong (talk) 10:45, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your work on Australian content!

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You are doing great work in a topic area that is underdeveloped here on Wikipedia and an area where a lot of people are unfamiliar with the sources that are available.

Kerry (talk) 00:47, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Improve categories at Walter David Taylor Powell

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Hi. Great work on Walter David Taylor Powell. I suggest you to improve categories. Added some, but it feels like a lot more categories could be added, esp. related to locations (local history). Good luck with your edits. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 20:14, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Edric Norfolk Vaux Morisset

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On 2 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Edric Norfolk Vaux Morisset, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 1860, Edric Norfolk Vaux Morisset became the first Inspector General of Police in Queensland? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Edric Norfolk Vaux Morisset. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Edric Norfolk Vaux Morisset), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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August 2018

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Information icon Hello, I'm Kerry Raymond. I noticed that you made one or more changes to an article, George Elphinstone Dalrymple, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Perhaps you added the wrong citation but it does not support what appears in the section about Dalrymple in Ceylon Kerry (talk) 14:05, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ways to improve Robert Arthur Johnstone

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Hi, I'm Slatersteven. Dippiljemmy, thanks for creating Robert Arthur Johnstone!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Some of the language here looks far from neutral.

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Robert Arthur Johnstone (September 4)

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Great article creation in 'John Marlow'! Keep it up! Regards, SshibumXZ (talk · contribs). 19:56, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Australian frontier wars

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Hi, Rather than edit war stuff into the article, can you please join the discussion at Talk:Australian frontier wars#Infobox. Nick-D (talk) 06:44, 2 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Looking at this edit in the article Blackbirding - and thanks for your copious work there - I see several instances of Royal Navy ships being referred to as "the HMS Emerald" and so on. This is incorrect usage. "HMS" stands for "His (or Her) Majesty's Ship" and "the her" is rarely seen as correct English. One should say "the Emerald" or "HMS Emerald", but not "the HMS Emerald". See Her Majesty's Ship.

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Using citations correctly

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Hello Dippiljemmy. I would like to discuss with you some of the claims you have recently been making. The first of which is on the Port Phillip page. The claim that you make is that Murray had a 'skirmish', and that several Aboriginal people were shot dead. The reference you provided states, and I quote, that it was not a 'skirmish but a "unprovoked attack", and that

"The first fire made them run and one received two balls between his shoulders, still some of them made a stop to heave; the second fire they all set off with astonishing speed and most likely one received a mortal wound. Before another piece was fired Mr. Bowen laid hold of one of their number and held on till three of our people came up and also grappled him, strange to tell he made such violent struggles as to get away from them all nor did the contents of the officer's piece bring him up although one ball passed through his arm and the other in the side—he was traced a good distance by his blood—the remaining pieces were by this time fired and our party gave chase to them all."

Nowhere in the text does it explicitly say that 3 people were shot dead.

Further down, you make the claim that 'On this latter journey, a large group of Aboriginal people came to meet the Britishers, a dispute occurred and several Aboriginal people were shot' but the reference you provided actually says, on the previous page that 'not a native was seen'

May I please ask you politely to please refrain from making false claims. Unless you can provide a reference to support the claims that you have made, in keeping with Wikipedia'a policies, they will be removed. Continued violations of Wikipedia's policies will not be tolerated, and you may be blocked from further editing. Thank you David.moreno72 04:01, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Submission declined?

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Hello Dippiljemmy. I noticed that you have reverted my corrections to the Maryborough page with the unusual and non descriptive comment of 'Submission declined', a violation of WP:REVEXP. Perhaps you could give a breakdown of your objections here, as all the changes I made were factual, ie. based on the current sources, and from a neutral point of view , in line with Wikipedia policy. The reversion of such good faith edits, without a satisfactory explanation, is not permitted per WP:STATUSQUO. Perhaps you could state which changes were not to your satisfaction, and we could come to a consensus. Thank you David.moreno72 09:37, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus required

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Hi Dippiljemmy, can we please try and reach an amicable consensus for your recent edits on the Maryborough page, specifically the Colonisation and conflict section. It would appear that your edits do not satisfy the neutral point of view, undue weight and original research policies. May I remind you that not engaging in consensus building or not interested in working collaboratively may be regarded as disruptive editing, and that further action may need to be taken.

Let us explore for a moment, one of the egregious violations, where for instance, you wrote that 'Labatt later observed the lynching of an Aboriginal person by two townspeople'

This is completely untrue. The Aboriginal person was seen to first have stolen items, and then during the attempt to capture him a rope was tied around his neck. The jury even returned a verdict of not guilty of manslaughter. Nowhere is the reference does it clearly state that the person lynched. May I repeat again. Nowhere in the reference does it mention any lynching. The lynching is entirely your own misinterpretation, a violation of no original research.

If you are unable to remediate the numerous violations, or allow others to do so, further action will need to be taken, so please, can we discuss the improvement of the section. Thank you David.moreno72 07:42, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No consensus achieved

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Hello Dippiljemmy. I see that you have reverted my fully referenced and good faith edit without any justification or discussion. You have also not provided a reference which clearly states that an 'apparent lynching' occurred or that anyone was 'shot them down as summary punishment'. You have been given plenty of time to respond, but have failed to do so. Please discuss your objections and your reasoning for repeated violation of the core policies of Wikipedia. Thank-you

May 2020

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Information icon Please do not add or change content, as you did at John O'Connell Bligh, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. David.moreno72 12:41, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not revert

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Hi Dippiljemmy. May I suggest that you take a moment to please read WP:REVERT. specifically

  • Consider carefully before reverting, as it rejects the contributions of another editor. Consider what you object to, and what the editor was attempting. Can you improve the edit, bringing progress, rather than reversion?
  • in the edit summary or on the talk page, succinctly explain why the change you are reverting was a bad idea or why reverting it is a better idea.

Also may I suggest that you read WP:DISRUPTSIGNS, specifically where it says

  • Cannot satisfy Wikipedia:Verifiability; fails to cite sources, cites unencyclopedic sources, misrepresents reliable sources, or manufactures original research.
  • Does not engage in consensus building:
    • a. repeatedly disregards other editors' questions or requests for explanations concerning edits or objections to edits;
    • b. repeatedly disregards other editors' explanations for their edits.

May I suggest that you carefully read WP:V

Thank you David.moreno72 13:09, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

May 2020

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Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at John O'Connell Bligh, you may be blocked from editing. David.moreno72 13:11, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Violation of WP:V

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Hi Dippiljemmy.

Please stop your disruptive editing and instead provide reliable sources.

For instance, provide a source that explicitly says, without any ambiguity that John O'Connell Bligh "conducted a number of summary executions" or that at the Bunya festival in the he killed Aboriginals.

That he was 'in charge of a mission to the Auburn River near the Dawson River that resulted in the shooting of several Aboriginals.'

That his "method he employed was the standard of the Native Police at the time and involved indiscriminate shooting raids on any Aboriginal group that could be found."

Please provide your sources here so that we can discuss a consensus.

This is your last chance to show that you are willing to discuss.

Thank-you David.moreno72 13:22, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

June 2020

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Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you assume ownership of articles, as you did at Australian native police. David.moreno72 02:42, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please discuss

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Hello Dippiljemmy,

Please do not revert changes made in good faith and in an attempt to remove WP:OR. I have spent considerable time, reviewing the references and making corrections. The current text has numerous problems, including WP:OR and claims that are simply not supported by the references. If you have any issues, please discuss them here, or on the articles talk page. Any further disruptive editing will be reported. Thank you David.moreno72 02:47, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

June 2020

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Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by inserting unpublished information or your personal analysis into an article. David.moreno72 02:52, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Failure to discuss

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Hello Dippiljemmy,

Lets discuss your latest reversion.

The claim is that

The late 1840s was a time of severe conflict between the local Aboriginal people and the British squatters along the Macintyre River in the northern-most part of the Gwydir District. Bligh and his troopers attempted to control the situation by shooting and apprehending Aboriginal people, and also by arresting settlers accused of massacring native women and children. He stationed a garrison of troopers at Callandoon on the river, but a decisive result wasn't achieved until 1849 when Frederick Walker commanding a large detachment of Native Police eliminated Aboriginal resistance in the region.

But the references says

"Mr. Commissioner Bligh and party lately visited the McIntyre in pursuit of the blacks who murdered Mr. Yeomans's man, but did not succeed in capturing them. Mr. Bligh, it is said, wounded one of them. It appears that the savage was armed with á large knife, which he kept concealed under some rude clothing that covered him, and he appears to be a desperate villain. A constable and three ticket-of-leave men are now stationed at Mr. Morris's station, on the McIntyre, and will re-main there, I believe, until the black police be sent up. It is a pity that this was not long since done, as the settlers there are almost ruined by the aboriginal marauders continually driving the cattle from the runs. It is hoped the plans now adopted and in progress will ultimately quieten the district."

The reference DOES NOT support the claim. This is just one of the many examples where the text is not written from the reference. Your claim of wiki-hounding is also not supported by any evidence.

Please discuss how the reference supports the text.

Claim of 'Undoing vandalism that included mass deletion of referenced material.'

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Hi Dippiljemmy.

I would like to discuss with you another egregiously false claim that you have reverted, and why the reversion has been undone.

In the Border Police of New South Wales article, you reinstated the following claim.

"A notable Border Police trooper of the Macleay District was Michael Clogher (aka Michael Clogger). Clogher was an Irish convict transported to Australia in 1836 for stealing a sheep. In 1840, he was selected by Commissioner Oakes to be one of his troopers when the Port Macquarie District was still in existence. Clogher travelled with Oakes to the Clarence River in the early 1840s participating in the various massacres while there."

But the reference says

"Here I came across a relic of the olden times in the person of ex-Constable Clogher, who, with Ms wile, runs an accommodation house. Both are over four score and still seem hale and hearty, and from appearances likely to continue for a while longer. In a quiet chat with the old gentleman I learned he arrived on the Clarence from the Macleay with Commissioner Oaks and a batch of police, soon after Craig's reported discovery of the big river. As the outcome of the discovery settlers and cedar getters made their appearance, followed by a number of convicts, who were at once assigned to the various officials and squatters. Clogher, when in the humor, gives the traveller the benefit of his thrilling reminiscences with whites and blacks."

The reference does not verify any of the claims.

Or how about this claim

"Clogher became a trooper in the normal police based at Armidale where he attained further notoriety for "being severe in his methods...of ferreting out blackfellows", utilising a large sword in his raids upon Aboriginal camps."

but the reference says

"Constable Michael Clogher, the first member of the police force to be appointed to Kempsey, was commissioned to keep watch on the blacks of the Plateau, after several outrages had been perpetrated by them, including the Meldrum tragedy (when all the inmates of a home, except the baby, were murdered by blacks). Mr. John Coghlan came frequently in contact with Clogher, whom he refers to as having been diligent in his duty but severe in his methods. He said that Clogher's horse became an adept at ferreting out blackfellows."

Where in the text does it mention any sword? Were you not aware that the "ferreting out blackfellows" is in reference to his horse !!!! TO HIS HORSE !!!!

And another reference says

"He was born in the county Clare, Ireland, in the year 1818, and 19 years later sailed for Australia, like many another high-spirited youth, to make his fortune. Shortly after landing, he wandered to the Macleay district, N.S.W., where he settled for a time."

So where in the reference, or any other of the references does it say that he was "transported to Australia in 1836 for stealing a sheep."?

Can you please discuss why there is so many inconsistencies between what is claimed and what is in the reference, and why this has been occurring on a regular basis. This is not a case of wiki-hounding, but removing scores of unsubstantiated claims that violate the core principles of Wikipedia. Thank you David.moreno72 08:10, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Dippiljemmy - just thought I'd alert you to a comment I added here, in case you feel like creating a new article relating to the one you've just created... Also (completely unrelated), I see you have a number of those pesky DAB link notifications on your talk page. I used to get a lot of them until I discovered the option under Preferences, Gadgets, "Display links to disambiguation pages in orange". When you turn that on, it shows you in preview if you've linked to DAB pages, which I find quite handy because you can fix them before publishing. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 01:01, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

p.s. I know I said about 4 days ago that I was hoping to get onto another Oz-history-related topic that day, but evidently I lied. Massive other distractions both on and off wiki (as you have no doubt realised, never a dull moment once one has been drawn into editing wp!), but I will eventually return to it and ping you when I do manage to get a few words down... Laterthanyouthink (talk) 05:22, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know if you're interested in this one (possibly later era than your focus), but I felt that Stolen wages needed a bit of expansion, so created a section for it in Slavery in Australia (the redirect should get you there). Feel free to expand - there might be a whole article in it, but I had to stop somewhere, too many other things on my list, as usual. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 09:37, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello Dippiljemmy. I would like to discuss your latest crop of misrepresentations. On the Proserpine page, you have used the following text.

We had a good deal of trouble with the blacks spearing cattle on the station and then escaping across the Proserpine River in canoes; but they were once caught red-handed at it on the Goorganga plains, and a very salutary lesson, was given them.

To make the following bogus claim. "After the spearing of cattle at Goorganga Plains, Sub-Inspector Ferdinand Macquarie Tompson (who was the brother-in-law of Frederick Bode) led his troopers in giving "the blacks...a very salutary lesson."

It should appear very obvious that there is no mention of Tompson in the original text. Let me repeat that. No. Mention. Whatsover. I would to ask why is it when I have removed your misrepresentation, you start to edit war and insist on re-adding it? I kindly request that you answer this question, and stop edit warring. I would like to remove this, and many other of your misrepresentations without your determined resistance in allowing your many, many errors to be corrected. Thank you David.moreno72 12:38, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Deliberately persistent posts of incorrectly referenced information

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Hi Dippiljemmy.

I would like to refer you to your latest misrepresentation which violates the WP:OR policy. In your edits to the Whitsunday Island page, you have used the following reference "Invasion and resistance : Aboriginal-European relations on the North Queensland frontier 1861-1897" to make the following claim.

The term dispersal was used to describe the implementation of a policy of indiscriminate slaughter of Indigenous people

But if one actually checks the reference the following text is found on page 22.

In time 'dispersing', became an official euphemism for attacking

As you should be able to clearly see, this is totally different to what you claimed.

Given the number of warnings, your lack of any discussion, and your persistent policy violations, your edits are deemed disruptive and I quote, "sometimes a Wikipedia editor creates long-term problems by persistently editing a page or set of pages with information which is not verifiable through reliable sources"

Your edits have been reverted per WP:STATUSQUO and I quote "Reverting is appropriate mostly for vandalism or other disruptive edits."

Could you please discuss these and other misrepresentations here, instead of reverting and edit warring.

Thank you David.moreno72 12:45, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Dippiljemmy. Could we please, as per WP:BRD, discuss, and reach a consensus regarding the changes you have made to the Robert Arthur Johnstone page.

For instance, in the ‎"Retribution after the Conn killings (April 1875)" section, you stated that "murder is defined after a legal process. As there was no legal process involved the term killed is appropriate." The reference clearly stated, and I quote "The following account is taken chiefly from the narrative of Edwin Whitfield, Esq., one of those who, on the arrival of Sub-Inspector Johnstone, and his report of the murder" The last word in the quote, murder, is clearly stated. Therefor, it is entirely appropriate, and your reinterpretation is wrong.

There is another edit where you claimed, "After the indigenous residents were expelled, the British expedition moved into their houses and utilised their facilities". I have read the reference and I am unable to find where this claim can be supported. Could you please quote the reference where this occurred, so that we can discuss the validity of the claim.

Also, there was text that was clearly in the reference that you removed. For instance

Removed text "At one of the camps they came across three Aboriginal women, one of who was gnawing on the dismembered feet of Mr. Conn."

And the reference. "At length in one camp they caught three gins, one of whom, horrible to relate, was gnawing one of the feet that had been severed from the body"

And then you make the claim that "They tracked a group of Aboriginal people to the coast where they shot some of the men", but the reference does not state this at all. Can you please quote the reference where this can be verified.

I look forward to your reply.

Thank you David.moreno72 00:58, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Dippiljemmy. Please do not revert without discussing here first.

Thank you David.moreno72 03:32, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Dippiljemmy,

I notice that you have tried, yet again, to add your embellishment to the Townsville page. "No mention is made of the fate of any children that may have been present"

Your reinterpretation of the reference is original research, and is not permitted on Wikipedia.

It is critical, especially when using primary references, that you do not reinterpret the reference, or add your own opinions, thoughts or views. Also, if another editor, such as myself, corrects your reinterpretation, that you do not repeatedly re-insert it, as you have done on multiple occasions. This may be considered as disruptive editing and edit waring.

Also, if you have any further editing disputes, may I recommend that you read WP:DR, and I quote

"Talking to other parties is not a mere formality, but an integral part of writing the encyclopedia. Discussing heatedly or poorly – or not at all – will make other editors less sympathetic to your position, and prevent you from effectively using later stages in dispute resolution. Sustained discussion between the parties, even if not immediately successful, demonstrates your good faith and shows you are trying to reach a consensus."

Thank you David.moreno72 06:30, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Dippiljemmy. I notice that you have now thrice removed fully referenced material from the William Bairstow Ingham page. This may be considered as disruptive editing.

May I suggest that you read the following

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If editor restores, or unreverts: If sourced information appears this time around, do nothing

May I suggest that you read the following.

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So, let's discuss your misinterpretations. On your edit description, you stated.

"the reference given is a newspaper article which clearly states no crew members escaped the island, there is no page 427"

If you had clicked on the reference, you would have noticed that it was not a newspaper article. May I remind you that as a primary source, care should be taken when using newspaper articles, especially very old ones, as references.

"there is a footnote showing that the evidence taken from Joe was highly unreliable."

No there isn't. This is the footnote "Wilson was responsible for another of the exaggerations concerning Ingham. Based on his interview with Joe from Wari Island,"

It was Wilson, not Joe.

And it was related to the claim that "Wilson reported that Ingham's party were all on board the Voura when the massacre took place" It does NOT state that the crew was cooked and eaten was unreliable or an exaggeration.

"Also Joe was not a crew member."

This is what the reference says

"His crew consisting of William Ailes, an Englishman serving as engineer, Harry Condiotti, a Greek who had been one of the gold prospectors at Laloki, now serving as cook, James Shaw from Sydney, Ingham's secretary and artist, two Chinese deck hands. Ah Sing and Hung Gar, three South Sea Islanders (indentured labourers from Queensland, one being Jack Wieu from Lifu Island) as boat crew, and Joe, a Wari Islander as pilot."

So to quote the great Luke Skywalker - "Everything you just said was wrong"

David.moreno72 06:13, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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where'd you get the date of Ingham's death?Dippiljemmy (talk) 06:17, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. It's in the first paragraph. "The deaths of William Ingham and six of his crew on 28 November 1878" Where did you get the idea that it was in December? Please take any further discussion to the subjects talk page. David.moreno72 06:32, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Kerry, I thought there was a reference in Tolcher to the township developing around the barracks but I've replaced it with a few others that make reference to it. Thanks! Dippiljemmy (talk) 09:34, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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On 28 April 2023 you deleted valid reference books from the Further Reading section. You have no right to act unilaterally and take down other authors' material unless you can show valid cause. Please restore these books to the relevant section within the next seven days. cheers. Sixbells elevant section within the next seven days. cheersr Sixbells (talk) 07:44, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I have checked it, and it contains no copyvio or other issues. I have added WikiProjects, Talk header and Australian English tags to the talk page, and an Authority control tag to the article. I have given it a minor copyedit (no content changed).

Just one point - you have used apostrophes as quotation marks for some words in the article, but I have not found that any of them are actual quotations. Because we have to be careful about copyright violation here, quotations must be clear and cited. So if those confusing apostrophes do not mean anything, please remove them. (Sometimes people use quotation marks for emphasis or because they are not sure if they are the right words - so please avoid that kind of confusion, which weakens the authoritative aspect of your good work).

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Ingratis (talk) 23:03, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notifying of Australian Cattle Dog featured article review.

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I have nominated Australian Cattle Dog for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Traumnovelle (talk) 01:44, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Updating article content without updating the citation

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Hi there, you've made a couple of edits in Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 where you have updated the content (e.g. number of US States affected with cow to cow) but you have left the old citation which does not support the new content.

Additionally, when you updated the statistics for human deaths, the same sentence appeared twice in the article but you have only changed one instance.

I've fixed these now but it would save me and other editors inconvenience if you could please be more thorough in future.

Thanks for keeping an eye on this topic and for your constructive editing.

Bob (talk) 21:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I should have updated the source but the situation is probably going to change on a weekly and then daily basis from now on, so I thought I would update the source when I update the info next time, which will probably be quite soon. I would like to remain objective on the whole thing, but it's incredible how numerous corporates, authorities, governments and media organisations, etc. around the world have let this virus get to where it's at despite all the info and scientific data giving them red-flags for many months. Anyways, makes for a good article which will be getting even higher pageviews soon! (Dippiljemmy (talk) 01:46, 29 April 2024 (UTC))[reply]

DYK for Hind's Hall

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On 10 June 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hind's Hall, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Macklemore's song "Hind's Hall" refers to Hind Rajab, a six-year-old girl who was killed in the Gaza Strip in January 2024? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hind's Hall. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Hind's Hall), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

TheSandDoctor Talk 00:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Queensland history

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Hi you did some work on the causeway Suttor Rivwr is it the same that may have been built by convicts on parole?

Some history of Yacamunda….

do you know any history regarding St Ann’s?

im not sure exactly which Aboriginal peoples were the traditional owners - any help?

thanks for all your contributions to Australian history and geography by the way, much appreciated AC1are (talk) 05:54, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi AC1are, not sure about any of this specifically, but St Ann's does ring a bell. I'll be heading back into Queensland stuff soon after I finish with some Tasmanian stuff. I'll make sure to look up St Ann's and let you know. Thanks for reading my contributions, hope they create some interest. (Dippiljemmy (talk) 08:29, 18 June 2024 (UTC))[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Hi Dippiljemmy. Thank you for your work on Woureddy. Another editor, Aszx5000, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Very nice piece of work there - fantastic that Wikipedia can preserve the details of such charachters for readers. thanks.

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Wentworth & Gipps

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Heya! A couple of years ago you inserted the following into the article for Governor George Gipps, citing Roger Milliss' book on the Waterloo Creek massacre:

Elected squatters such as William Wentworth, Hannibal Macarthur, Richard Windeyer and William Foster attacked Gipps consistently for his Aboriginal protection and land policies that worked against their exclusive claims on property.

My interest here is in Wentworth and the statement that he attacked Gipps "for his Aboriginal protection ... policies that worked against [the squatters'] exclusive claims on property."

This is a tedious ask – and I apologise for that – but is there any chance you'd be able to provide me with the page number(s) and the direct quote(s) that support this? I've tried to find an online copy of Milliss' book to scour but haven't been able to.

It is out of personal interest more than anything. It is well known that Wentworth & Gipps feuded, and that Wentworth displayed an at times shocking degree of backwardness towards Aboriginal Australians which contrasted with his liberalism elsewhere. Cheers, Will Thorpe (talk) 12:22, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Will, there are multiple pages and quotes from the book that you could use, my suggestion is to buy it secondhand on-line. A good example would be on page 698-699 where "Wentworth swore eternal vengeance on the Governor and his regime. The battlelines were drawn between them for the titanic struggle with the squatters led by Wentworth for the final control of the Aborigines' land which would end in Gipps' humiliation and defeat." This was after Gipps stymied Wentworth's attempts to gain land amounts of land in Australia and New Zealand by what Gipps termed "fraud" and "conspiracy". Pages 712-720 are also full of useful material for you.(Dippiljemmy (talk) 03:23, 14 November 2024 (UTC))[reply]
Cheers mate, my university has a copy so I will take a look there. Kind regards, Will Thorpe (talk) 09:26, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If I read the quote correctly, it suggests that Wentworth attacked Gipps because his Aboriginal protection policies clashed with squatter's claims on property. This is to me a novel claim that hasn't been raised in what I know thus far about the spat between Gipps and Wentworth over land policy (I am not including New Zealand in this). Thus my interest is to trace it to the source. Will Thorpe (talk) 09:37, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dippiljemmy I just consulted the pages you gave me, which I have also scanned for future reference. I subsequently edited the part of the article which I was referring to so it would more closely follow what I found on those pages, which I wanted to inform you about. Cheers :) Will Thorpe (talk) 06:43, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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