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Harold F. Reichenthal

As best I can tell from the terms and conditions on the Neptune Society's website, from which you copied almost the entire obituary verbatim, the article violates copyright. As you're an experienced editor, I wanted to check to see if you kow of a reason it doesn't violate copyright. Schazjmd (talk) 21:09, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

It's not at all correct that I copied the essay from the Neptune site. Althugh posted today, the text of the article antedates the obituary, and I can prove that if necessary. It would be more correct to say the obituary copies the article, a draft of which I sent to Neptune well before I released it on WP. I can get written permission from Neptune if you want. deisenbe (talk) 21:13, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Please follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Schazjmd (talk) 21:23, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Why is this necessary, since I didn't copy from Neptune, rather they copied from me? deisenbe (talk) 21:25, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
That website is protected by copyright. Per their terms and conditions, when you submitted the content there: You grant the Company and related entities a royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive right and license to use, copy, modify, display, archive, store, publish, transmit, perform, distribute, reproduce and create derivative works from all Content you provide in any form, media, software or technology of any kind now existing or developed in the future. In addition, Images, text, or other information posted or found on this website are solely for the use of users who agree to abide by this TOS and the Company’s Privacy Policy, and may not be used, reproduced, or published for any purpose, commercial or otherwise, without the express written permission of the Company and the owner of the images, text, or other information. Schazjmd (talk) 21:32, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Read the policy you quoted. I granted them a non-exclusive right and license. They do not own my writing, even though they have copyrighted what they posted. Furthermore, I did not copy anything from the Neptune site. deisenbe (talk) 21:36, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

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"Poet of the Confederacy"

Hi Deisenbe--can you tell me what the source was for this edit? I'm finding it hard to find evidence that verifies it. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 17:10, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

What is it that needs verification - that he was a poet, that he supported CSA, or is that he is a Confederate, and a poet, but not a "Confederate poet"? deisenbe (talk) 23:56, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
No, none of those: it's the entire "Poet of the Confederacy" phrase, which in the literature is used as a kind of honorary albeit unofficial title. Like this--all the others in the category either have or can have verification for that title, which is more than the sum of its parts. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:15, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
BTW, I see why Category:African-American expatriates was deleted, but not why it was never populated. James Baldwin and Josephine Baker are the first two that come to mind. Drmies (talk) 16:19, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
I see you've taken care of it. Anyway, I have nothing to contribute on that. deisenbe (talk) 17:08, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
No, that is a different article, but I deduct from your answers that you did not have access to a source that claims Randolph was called "Poet of the Confederacy". Thank you. Drmies (talk) 20:17, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
Furl That Banner: The Life of Abram J. Ryan, Poet-Priest of the South
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Source: Journal of Southern History. Feb 2008, Vol. 74 Issue 1, p178, 2 p. deisenbe (talk) 22:19, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
Thanks--but that doesn't verify "Poet of the Confederacy", and it's not about James Innes Randolph but about Abram Joseph Ryan. Drmies (talk) 00:55, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

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Hello, I see on your user page that you use JSTOR and I'd like to know more about your experience. By my calculations, a good 70 % of the main JSTOR content is now available for everyone at Internet Archive Scholar, with full text search provided e.g. at https://scholar.archive.org/ . The service is still in beta, but I've used it for some source-finding and it seems quite usable to me; I wonder whether that's just my experience. If you have a chance, the next time you'd be looking for a source on Google Scholar or JSTOR or similar, to perform the same search on IA scholar instead, I'd be curious to hear how it ends up. Thanks, Nemo 19:06, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

I had a look at it today and without lookimg for anything in particular I stumbled on a 1913 article which is very interesting to me and that I didn't know of. Thanks. deisenbe (talk) 19:08, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

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This was two different states of the same article, a mistake I've now corrected. Thanks for catching it. deisenbe (talk) 17:00, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

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Help me

Please help me with... Virginia v. John Brown has an archive-url warning in note 195 and I don't know why or how to fix it. Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 15:29, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

If I had to guess, the warning was thrown because |url= and |archive-url= contained the same content, which is understandably not allowed. If you want more help, change the {{help me-helped}} back into a {{help me}}, stop by the Teahouse, or Wikipedia's live help channel, or the help desk to ask someone for assistance. Primefac (talk) 15:51, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
I was hoping for more than a guess. Url and archive-url have different content. deisenbe (talk) 16:05, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Call it an educated guess; I changed the url parameter and the error went away. Primefac (talk) 16:11, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
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