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I recently added a link to "Islamic Environmentalism" to pertinent environmental articles, given that they included various other envionmental relevant links. However, my edits were reverted without a clear rationale. Especially articles that deal with religious philosophies like "Christian views on environmentalism" and "Judaism and environmentalism" and "Environmental philosophy" were all WP:Relevant to this link. Honestly, your aggressive reverts were inappropriate. 182.183.14.143 (talk) 07:24, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

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Hello Dmacks, it has been a few weeks now and the page is still in dispute. Can you have a look at the talk page and see if you agree with what I proposed, Thanks Bosula (talk) 11:30, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping! Connectivity spotty at the moment...I'll check back and hopefully be able to respond in a few hr. DMacks (talk) 19:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
That was hella-spottier than I had hoped. Thanks for your patience and work on this set of articles/topics. DMacks (talk) 05:51, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

My edits on Forensic Biology and Emile Achard

Dear Sir, many thanks for the edits you did on the above two pages. From the number of my edits, you surely know I am a beginner. You are obviously an expert. I am still learning, and I do not want to commit an inadvertent mistake. You say that my edit on Forensic Biology was better, but not a similar edit in my edit on the page in Emile Archard. Simply for the sake of learning I need to humbly ask you (1)can one make similar edits [i.e. add same information] on two different pages? I thought one could, because a reader might simply visit one of the two pages (2)How is it that an edit is good for one page, but not for another page? This is purely for learning sir. Thanks and warm regards. Neotaruntius (talk) 02:48, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Neotaruntius! Always glad to see eager new editors on science articles. Wikipedia often has several articles on related or overlapping topics, and I agree that a certain piece of information should be included on all of the pages where it is relevant. Sometimes the way the information is written might need to vary so that it fits each different context. And as always, the only details we're supposed to include are those that are exactly supportable by the references.
What you wrote in Forensic biology was "One of the earliest studies on post-mortem microbial analysis was published by Émile Achard"[7]. The ref you cited says what the Achard paper was about and that it was an early work in the field. So what you wrote clearly fits the topic of "forensic biology" and the details are supported by the ref.
What you wrote in Émile Achard was "In 1895, he along with E. Phulpin wrote a paper related to microbiology of the dead bodies, which is often quoted as one of the earliest publications on forensic microbiology."[8] The ref (at least the first page that I can read for free) does not seem to say Achard's paper is "often quoted as", merely that this ref itself says it. The situation is like reporting a single data-point but stating that it proves a trend.
So that's why I copied something like the forensic biology wording into the Achard article. And I adjusted the wording in the Achard article to link back to the forensic-biology article: "In 1895, he along with E. Phulpin wrote one of the earliest studies on post-mortem microbial analysis based on forensic biology."[9] That allows readers to learn more about that topic. One of the Wikipedia content guidelines is to "build a web" rather than writing self-contained or stand-alone articles.
Thanks for dropping by to ask! I'm certainly happy to discuss further about these edits or other WP questions. DMacks (talk) 07:55, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

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User talk:Srich32977 request

If you have a moment to look at the continuing torrent of complaints at User talk:Srich32977, I would appreciate it. You are under no obligation, of course, but you commented there recently. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:23, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

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Hi DMacks. Just to say that there is no need to remove wikidata {{ill}} links like you did here. There is a bot which does this automatically after an en:Wikipedia article is created, which is one of the advantages of having these links. See the edit history of that list for examples of the bot working. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:44, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

Yup, I usually do rely on that. In this case, its presence was annoying because it kept popping up on searches while I was working on some articles, so I didn't want to wait for the bot to get around to it. DMacks (talk) 11:46, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

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Assistance needed, please

Sorry to badger you but maybe you missed my ping last week to Draft talk:List of modes of action of insecticides. Bosula and I drafted a table which is now ready to be inserted into Insecticide Resistance Action Committee (see the draft Talk Page for rationale) but we need advice about doing that correctly and then deleting the draft. Regards. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:26, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping about the ping! DMacks (talk) 17:13, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice. Move and merge now complete. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:25, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Help in editnotices

Hi DMacks, there was another edit war happened at the article Iodine concerning WP:SULF. Perhaps {{Chemical editnotice}} should be added to this article and other chemistry-related articles, but I am not sure how far do this range needs to cover. Thanks. Nucleus hydro elemon (talk) 10:51, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

No problem to do that. I think it would be useful to know the scope of the problem. For a long-term for a few specific articles, editnotice is the obvious step. But long-term for a large and random/varying set of articles, or sporatic for any specific article? I'd want to match the size of the manual workload to the size of the expected value. There does not appear to be a way to have edit notices placed by chembox or other article templates, or applied to whole categories (or category-trees) via a single action. DMacks (talk) 13:28, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
Semi-relatedly, should "national spelling varieties" in the edit-notice link to WP:ENGVAR? DMacks (talk) 13:28, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
The editnotice is linked. There are 10 element articles that uses British English and mentions "sulfur", namely N, P, S, Cl, Ca, Br, Ag, I, Th, and Fl. All of them needs the editnotice to avoid sulfur → sulphur.
I also found these articles that have the same need: acetic acid, alkali metal, ammonia, borane, cellulose, chemical element, chromic acid, furan-2-ylmethanethiol, glucosamine, hydrolysable tannin, iron(III) chloride, mephedrone, octasulfur, periodic table, and sodium azide. I'm not sure do salt and blue billy should be here too. Nucleus hydro elemon (talk) 15:05, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

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Hello! I am the person w 68.173.170.185 (talk) 00:46, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi, IP-user! What are you trying to do and what sort of help do you need with it? DMacks (talk) 00:49, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
Sorry I accidentally posted without finishing.
Hello I am the the user that made that official website link edit which is this one.
+2 {{official website}} is fully viable and explicitly allowed (no pref for/against) in WP:EL. It appears to give the same result in this case...what problem are you trying to solve? Undid revision 1261837351
I made the edit because the https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:External_links way of linking is a more cleaner, easier to read when editing, and has less text than the previous edit.
I was wondering what are the benefits and downsides of using the other method way of linking, even though you get the same output is there any downsides to using that way?
If I am correct is the {{official website}} a template? https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Help:Template
The most common method of inclusion is called transclusion, where the wiki source of the target page contains a reference to the template, using the {{Template name}} syntax. Another method is substitution, where the content of the template is copied into the wiki source of the target page, just once, when it is saved.
Is that slower or require more resources?
https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Help:Transclusion
Transclusion events occur each time the target page is loaded and the template is rendered. A related event is Substitution, where a template call is replaced with its transcluded source content at the time it is invoked. Unlike transclusion, which continuously updates the target page with changes from the source, substitution results in a one-time inclusion of the content, meaning that subsequent updates to the source content will not be reflected in the target page. For example, a template call for {{Pagename}} with the subst: prefix results in the substitution template call {{#if:|{{PAGENAME:}}|{{PAGENAME}}}}[[Category:Pages which use a template in place of a magic word|H{{PAGENAME}}]]. When invoked, this template is replaced, also referred to as substituted, with the actual wikitext of the source page at the time of the call, thereby making it a permanent part of the target page.[c]
Thank you, I am still learning and trying to find the best ways of linking stuff on wikipedia. 68.173.170.185 (talk) 01:02, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

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