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In re: Elliot Page Talk page restrictions

We have long followed and respected your work at WP. We have the appended general and specific requests to make, regarding the article title referenced.

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1, In general, we would suggest that it is counter to WP's historical and philosophical raison d'être, to so fully restrict Talk page engagement, that non-registered editors cannot even post requests for article changes. This essentially prohibits, at the given article, a class editors from directly participating with that article's fellow editors. Notably, the class of editors excluded (the non-registered) were consciously and consistently included, beginning with the WP founders, to allow editing very similarly entitled as that of the registered. The baby needs not go out with the bath water. Edits from good non-registered editors need not be excluded alongside vandalism.

I suggest that the article might retain its editing restrictions, but that the Talk page should allow, at least, for non-registered/logging editors to post direct requests for article changes to their article peers. (Yes, we are aware that there is a mechanism to suggest article changes outside of the article's Talk page. But those further clicks take the request outside of the direct review and reflection of a given article's editors and readers, separating parties with similar interests, and convoluting simple question like, "Has this edit been reuested before?".)

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2, Regarding the following sentence at the Page article (which opens its paragraph, and is followed by two citations):

On November 9, 2017, it was announced that Page had been cast in the main role of Vanya/Viktor Hargreeves in the Netflix superhero series The Umbrella Academy.

Note, this reflects no proposed change to the wikilink destination; it is only a proposed change to its markup piping/presentation.

Justification: Having reviewed the sentence and its two supporting citations, one must conclude that the sentence is both historically inaccurate, and inccurate to its stated sources. The sources presented make no mention of the Viktor character, only the Vanya; thus, the current presentation confounds an early decision in the series with later developments in the series design and production. For historical accuracy, the article should report only what the citations report—that on that 2017 date, Page was cast in the role of Vanya (as the two citations provided indicate no perception on the part of the series writers/showrunner, in that moment, of the character evolving as it eventually would). Then, further on, as the role evolved, the second character name should be introduced, with that relevant date (with citations reporting that change in series design and related casting).

Note, no motivation with regard to gender issues should be perceived here. This edit is simply aimed at WP:VERIFY compliance, and the historical accuracy of the prose—that the WP article text says what the sources say, and accurately reflects the history of the series as it occurred.

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Thank you for your attention to these general and specific requests. Again, I come to you out of continuing respect for your work here, and believing, pragmatically, that a change in the article and its editing status will only take place if suggested by such a one as yourself. (Please feel free to edit/adapt my requests, in any way you see fit.) With kind regard,

98.193.42.97 (talk) 14:23, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi IP! I will copy your edit-request to the talk-page, as I am not familiar enough with the topic to know wheher it is correct. Regarding protection, unfortunately that specific talk-page has a years'-long history of trolling and other abuse, bad enough that nothing short of semi-protection could solve it. I had tried protecting it for just a few days back in 2020 when there was an acute problem, but it kept re-occcuring after my protection expired, so longer protections have been added as each expires and the problem keeps re-re-occurring (now a total of five admins have taken that action there). DMacks (talk) 14:38, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

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MediaWiki message delivery 20:29, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Trehalosamine

Hello DMacks, Thank you very much for your revision about the topic of Trehalosamine that I (Nat comp 4) created before. I am not good at editing Wikipedia, and your efforts make this article much better. I would like to talk to you, however, about two things. The first, the structures of 3-trehalosamine and 4-trehalosamine are mixed up. Please check and revise it. The second, some specialist of sugar told me before that the trehalosamine structures you put this time are ambiguous to show alfa-alfa-1,1 bond structure and should be avoided to use. The structure seems somewhat like alfa-beta-1,1 bond although this kind of trehalose structure are sometimes seen in the scientific papers. Therefore, I put the previous version of the structure. I am not a specialist of sugar 3D structure and if you are in the field much deeply than me, I do not persist in it. Thank you for your kind consideration. Nat comp 4 (talk) 01:20, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback! I'm an organic person but sugars are not my speciality. I did indeed have a mismatch between the images vs captions. Fixed--good catch!
These images do not agree with alpha,beta. The two rings have the same conformation as each other and the same array of specific stereochemical details as each other. Because they match, it's not "one of each" alpha vs beta. It's true that one of those bonds is "up" instead of "down", but that's because the whole ring is turned over. A concern with the diagram I replaced was that those bonds were not as clearly in any particular direction (not equatorial but not fully axial either). From the monosaccharide nomenclature article:
It's not geometrically correct that the two bonds off that linking oxygen are linear to each other, but that helps keep the two rings in a normal alignment on the screen. I do like that "bird in flight" style you have (with the angle between those bonds), but the actual 3D geometry of trehalose is even more complicated.
So I simply matched the images in c:Category:Trehalose and somewhat followed the Haworth projection (where atomic geometry is not a focus). DMacks (talk) 05:17, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your quick response and detailed explanation. I am satisfied. I respect your kind efforts in Wikipedia. Nat comp 4 (talk) 06:12, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2024).

Administrator changes

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Interface administrator changes

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Oversighter changes

removed Wugapodes

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Guideline and policy news

  • Following an RfC, there is a new criterion for speedy deletion: C4, which applies to unused maintenance categories, such as empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past.
  • A request for comment is open to discuss whether Notability (species) should be adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.

Arbitration

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  • Editors who use the Special:UnusedTemplates page can now filter out pages which are expected to be there permanently, such as sandboxes, test-cases, and templates that are always substituted. Editors can add the new magic word __EXPECTUNUSEDTEMPLATE__ to a template page to hide it from the listing. Thanks to Sophivorus and DannyS712 for these improvements. [2]
  • Editors who use the New Topic tool on discussion pages, will now be reminded to add a section header, which should help reduce the quantity of newcomers who add sections without a header. You can read more about that, and 28 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
  • Last week, some Toolforge tools had occasional connection problems. The cause is still being investigated, but the problems have been resolved for now. [3]
  • Translation administrators at multilingual wikis, when editing multiple translation units, can now easily mark which changes require updates to the translation. This is possible with the new dropdown menu.

Project updates

  • A new draft text of a policy discussing the use of Wikimedia's APIs has been published on Meta-Wiki. The draft text does not reflect a change in policy around the APIs; instead, it is an attempt to codify existing API rules. Comments, questions, and suggestions are welcome on the proposed update’s talk page until September 13 or until those discussions have concluded.

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Nomination for deletion of Template:MolFormIndex-wrapper

Template:MolFormIndex-wrapper has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 11:39, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Starting this week, the standard syntax highlighter will receive new colors that make them compatible in dark mode. This is the first of many changes to come as part of a major upgrade to syntax highlighting. You can learn more about what's to come on the help page. [5][6]
  • Editors of wikis using Wikidata will now be notified of only relevant Wikidata changes in their watchlist. This is because the Lua functions entity:getSitelink() and mw.wikibase.getSitelink(qid) will have their logic unified for tracking different aspects of sitelinks to reduce junk notifications from inconsistent sitelinks tracking. [7]

Project updates

  • Users of all Wikis will have access to Wikimedia sites as read-only for a few minutes on September 25, starting at 15:00 UTC. This is a planned datacenter switchover for maintenance purposes. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [8]
  • Contributors of 11 Wikipedias, including English will have a new MOS namespace added to their Wikipedias. This improvement ensures that links beginning with MOS: (usually shortcuts to the Manual of Style) are not broken by Mooré Wikipedia (language code mos). [9]

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This Month in Education: August 2024

This Month in Education

Volume 13 • Issue 7 • August 2024

In This Issue

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Improvements and Maintenance

  • Wishlist item Editors interested in templates can help by reading the latest Wishlist focus area, Template recall and discovery, and share your feedback on the talkpage. This input helps the Community Tech team to decide the right technical approach to build. Everyone is also encouraged to continue adding new wishes.
  • The new automated Special:NamespaceInfo page helps editors understand which namespaces exist on each wiki, and some details about how they are configured. Thanks to DannyS712 for these improvements. [10]
  • References Check is a feature that encourages editors to add a citation when they add a new paragraph to a Wikipedia article. For a short time, the corresponding tag "Edit Check (references) activated" was erroneously being applied to some edits outside of the main namespace. This has been fixed. [11]
  • It is now possible for a wiki community to change the order in which a page’s categories are displayed on their wiki. By default, categories are displayed in the order they appear in the wikitext. Now, wikis with a consensus to do so can request a configuration change to display them in alphabetical order. [12]
  • Advanced item Tool authors can now access ToolsDB's public databases from both Quarry and Superset. Those databases have always been accessible to every Toolforge user, but they are now more broadly accessible, as Quarry can be accessed by anyone with a Wikimedia account. In addition, Quarry's internal database can now be queried from Quarry itself. This database contains information about all queries that are being run and starred by users in Quarry. This information was already public through the web interface, but you can now query it using SQL. You can read more about that, and 20 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
  • Any pages or tools that still use the very old CSS classes mw-message-box need to be updated. These old classes will be removed next week or soon afterwards. Editors can use a global-search to determine what needs to be changed. It is possible to use the newer cdx-message group of classes as a replacement (see the relevant Codex documentation, and an example update), but using locally defined onwiki classes would be best. [13]

Technical project updates

  • Next week, all Wikimedia wikis will be read-only for a few minutes. This will start on September 25 at 15:00 UTC. This is a planned datacenter switchover for maintenance purposes. This maintenance process also targets other services. The previous switchover took 3 minutes, and the Site Reliability Engineering teams use many tools to make sure that this essential maintenance work happens as quickly as possible. [14]

Tech in depth

  • Advanced item The latest monthly MediaWiki Product Insights newsletter is available. This edition includes details about: research about hook handlers to help simplify development, research about performance improvements, work to improve the REST API for end-users, and more.
  • Advanced item To learn more about the technology behind the Wikimedia projects, you can now watch sessions from the technology track at Wikimania 2024 on Commons. This week, check out:
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Weekly highlight

  • All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on Wednesday September 25 at 15:00 UTC. Reading the wikis will not be interrupted, but editing will be paused. These twice-yearly processes allow WMF's site reliability engineering teams to remain prepared to keep the wikis functioning even in the event of a major interruption to one of our data centers.

Updates for editors

A screenshot of the interface for the Alt Text suggested-edit feature
  • Editors who use the iOS Wikipedia app in Spanish, Portuguese, French, or Chinese, may see the Alt Text suggested-edit experiment after editing an article, or completing a suggested edit using "Add an image". Alt-text helps people with visual impairments to read Wikipedia articles. The team aims to learn if adding alt-text to images is a task that editors can be successful with. Please share any feedback on the discussion page.
  • The Codex color palette has been updated with new and revised colors for the MediaWiki user interfaces. The most noticeable changes for editors include updates for: dark mode colors for Links and for quiet Buttons (progressive and destructive), visited Link colors for both light and dark modes, and background colors for system-messages in both light and dark modes.
  • Advanced item It is now possible to include clickable wikilinks and external links inside code blocks. This includes links that are used within <syntaxhighlight> tags and on code pages (JavaScript, CSS, Scribunto and Sanitized CSS). Uses of template syntax {{…}} are also linked to the template page. Thanks to SD0001 for these improvements. [15]
  • Two bugs were fixed in the GlobalVanishRequest system by improving the logging and by removing an incorrect placeholder message. [16][17]
  • View all 25 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.

Updates for technical contributors

  • Advanced item From Wikimedia Enterprise:
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    • The Snapshot API (html dumps) have added beta Structured Contents endpoints (blog post on that) as well as released two beta datasets (English and French Wikipedia) from that endpoint to Hugging Face for public use and feedback (blog post on that). These pre-parsed data sets enable new options for researchers, developers, and data scientists to use and study the content.

In depth

  • Advanced item The Wikidata Query Service (WDQS) is used to get answers to questions using the Wikidata data set. As Wikidata grows, we had to make a major architectural change so that WDQS could remain performant. As part of the WDQS Graph Split project, we have new SPARQL endpoints available for serving the "scholarly" and "main" subgraphs of Wikidata. The query.wikidata.org endpoint will continue to serve the full Wikidata graph until March 2025. After this date, it will only serve the main graph. For more information, please see the announcement on Wikidata.

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:32, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

inline citation feedback

Thank you for your review and for tagging the page regarding inline citations on the Bernadette Thompson article. I’ve made some updates to clarify the connections between specific claims and their corresponding sources, ensuring it’s easier to verify the information.

Initially, some citations were placed at the end of paragraphs where the sources covered thematically related information. I've now added more precise inline citations to ensure that the origins of certain claims are clearer within the narrative. I hope these adjustments resolve the concern and make the article more straightforward to navigate.

I appreciate your input and your help in improving the page! Fashionista345 (talk) 08:32, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

@Fashionista345: Thanks for taking care of that! DMacks (talk) 16:01, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

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Updates for editors

  • Readers of 42 more wikis can now use Dark Mode. If the option is not yet available for logged-out users of your wiki, this is likely because many templates do not yet display well in Dark Mode. Please use the night-mode-checker tool if you are interested in helping to reduce the number of issues. The recommendations page provides guidance on this. Dark Mode is enabled on additional wikis once per month.
  • Editors using the 2010 wikitext editor as their default can access features from the 2017 wikitext editor by adding ?veaction=editsource to the URL. If you would like to enable the 2017 wikitext editor as your default, it can be set in your preferences. [18]
  • For logged-out readers using the Vector 2022 skin, the "donate" link has been moved from a collapsible menu next to the content area into a more prominent top menu, next to "Create an account". This restores the link to the level of prominence it had in the Vector 2010 skin. Learn more about the changes related to donor experiences. [19]
  • The CampaignEvents extension provides tools for organizers to more easily manage events, communicate with participants, and promote their events on the wikis. The extension has been enabled on Arabic Wikipedia, Igbo Wikipedia, Swahili Wikipedia, and Meta-Wiki. Chinese Wikipedia has decided to enable the extension, and discussions on the extension are in progress on Spanish Wikipedia and on Wikidata. To learn how to enable the extension on your wiki, you can visit the CampaignEvents page on Meta-Wiki.
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Updates for technical contributors

  • Developers with an account on Wikitech-wiki should check if any action is required for their accounts. The wiki is being changed to use the single-user-login (SUL) system, and other configuration changes. This change will help reduce the overall complexity for the weekly software updates across all our wikis.

In depth

  • The server switch was completed successfully last week with a read-only time of only 2 minutes 46 seconds. This periodic process makes sure that engineers can switch data centers and keep all of the wikis available for readers, even if there are major technical issues. It also gives engineers a chance to do maintenance and upgrades on systems that normally run 24 hours a day, and often helps to reveal weaknesses in the infrastructure. The process involves dozens of software services and hundreds of hardware servers, and requires multiple teams working together. Work over the past few years has reduced the time from 17 minutes down to 2–3 minutes. [20]

Meetings and events

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MediaWiki message delivery 22:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – October 2024

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Guideline and policy news

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:59, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Pending changes request

Hi DMacks, I hope you're keeping well. Would you mind considering my request at WP:PERM/PCR, please? All the best, ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 17:57, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Regarding about simulcast of ABS-CBN programs on ALLTV

Hello, sir @DMacks.... Do you know that several programs from ABS-CBN such as Magandang Buhay and It's Showtime are finally and officially comeback to the original frequencies because it also air on ALLTV...??? And there is the reliable sources for this:

https://trendrod.wordpress.com/2024/06/17/its-showtime-begins-airing-on-alltv/

https://trendrod.wordpress.com/2024/05/01/magandang-buhay-resumes-production-simulcasts-on-alltv-starting-may-13/

Thanks..... 36.69.21.16 (talk) 12:46, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

This is not a topic with which I am very familiar. But also, wordpress does not seem like a reliable source. DMacks (talk) 13:33, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Procedural advice

As mentioned at Talk:Stacking (chemistry)#Split proposal and probably noncontroversial, I am planning to paste a lot of content in Stacking (chemistry) into Pi-stacking, which is a redirect to Stacking (chemistry). Seem reasonable? --Smokefoot (talk) 23:38, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Yup. I responded there. DMacks (talk) 16:39, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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Weekly highlight

  • Communities can now request installation of Automoderator on their wiki. Automoderator is an automated anti-vandalism tool that reverts bad edits based on scores from the new "Revert Risk" machine learning model. You can read details about the necessary steps for installation and configuration. [21]

Updates for editors

Updates for technical contributors

  • It is now possible for <syntaxhighlight> code blocks to offer readers a "Copy" button if the copy=1 attribute is set on the tag. Thanks to SD0001 for these improvements. [23]
  • Customized copyright footer messages on all wikis will be updated. The new versions will use wikitext markup instead of requiring editing raw HTML. [24]
  • Advanced item Later this month, temporary accounts will be rolled out on several pilot wikis. The final list of the wikis will be published in the second half of the month. If you maintain any tools, bots, or gadgets on these 11 wikis, and your software is using data about IP addresses or is available for logged-out users, please check if it needs to be updated to work with temporary accounts. Guidance on how to update the code is available.
  • Advanced item Rate limiting has been enabled for the code review tools Gerrit and GitLab to address ongoing issues caused by malicious traffic and scraping. Clients that open too many concurrent connections will be restricted for a few minutes. This rate limiting is managed through nftables firewall rules. For more details, see Wikitech's pages on Firewall, GitLab limits and Gerrit operations.
  • Five new wikis have been created:

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:38, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Blocked editor Alon9393

Good morning! Since you were the one who blocked Alon9393 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), I'm pointing you to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cyprus–Saudi Arabia relations, where I noted that a suspected block evader showed up, i.e. Alon9393. This was 181.197.42.150 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). After several relists, another 181.197.42.215 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) showed up who is quite obviously the same person as the previous IP. I draw the conclusion from the IP number itself, as well as the latter IP using the word "notoriety" in an AFD context, which is a dead giveaway for Alon9393 - per his user talk page where this word was brought up. Geschichte (talk) 07:07, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Molecular formula Hill key

Template:Molecular formula Hill key has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:41, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

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Updates for editors

  • The Structured Discussion extension (also known as Flow) is starting to be removed. This extension is unmaintained and causes issues. It will be replaced by DiscussionTools, which is used on any regular talk page. A first set of wikis are being contacted. These wikis are invited to stop using Flow, and to move all Flow boards to sub-pages, as archives. At these wikis, a script will move all Flow pages that aren't a sub-page to a sub-page automatically, starting on 22 October 2024. On 28 October 2024, all Flow boards at these wikis will be set in read-only mode. [30][31]
  • WMF's Search Platform team is working on making it easier for readers to perform text searches in their language. A change last week on over 30 languages makes it easier to find words with accents and other diacritics. This applies to both full-text search and to types of advanced search such as the hastemplate and incategory keywords. More technical details (including a few other minor search upgrades) are available. [32]
  • View all 20 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, EditCheck was installed at Russian Wikipedia, and fixes were made for some missing user interface styles.

Updates for technical contributors

  • Editors who use the Toolforge tool Earwig's Copyright Violation Detector will now be required to log in with their Wikimedia account before running checks using the "search engine" option. This change is needed to help prevent external bots from misusing the system. Thanks to Chlod for these improvements. [33]
  • Phabricator users can create tickets and add comments on existing tickets via Email again. Sending email to Phabricator has been fixed. [34]
  • Advanced item Some HTML elements in the interface are now wrapped with a <bdi> element, to make our HTML output more aligned with Web standards. More changes like this will be coming in future weeks. This change might break some tools that rely on the previous HTML structure of the interface. Note that relying on the HTML structure of the interface is not recommended and might break at any time. [35]

In depth

  • The latest monthly MediaWiki Product Insights newsletter is available. This edition includes: updates on Wikimedia's authentication system, research to simplify feature development in the MediaWiki platform, updates on Parser Unification and MathML rollout, and more.
  • The latest quarterly Technical Community Newsletter is now available. This edition include: research about improving topic suggestions related to countries, improvements to PHPUnit tests, and more.

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MediaWiki message delivery 21:17, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Phycomin for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Phycomin is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Phycomin until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdewman6 (talk • contribs) 02:46, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Nobel article controversies

Please whenever you need me write to me in the talk of the article concerned. I have removed the duplicate reference. ReyHahn (talk) 14:09, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks ReyHahn. And sorry I didn't notice the clearly written information on your talkpage about your communication preference! DMacks (talk) 13:37, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

"apprentice"

The use of the word "apprentice" is that of the Boston Globe journalist cited, who does not know better. Scientists do not use this word. The phrasing "operator of the electron microscope" is also the journalist's wording. Scientific colleagues would not call Chow just an "operator." Nykiang (talk) 05:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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BGerdemann (WMF) (talk) 19:22, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Requesting clarity on the comments you’ve left on the article I’ve submitted

Hello, I am requesting clarity on the comment you’ve left on the article I’ve submitted for creation. I have added a host of verifiable references and citations, and have followed reviewers advice at every turn, as clearly shown in the edit log. Therefore, your comment “same BLP unfixed mess” as your reason for repeatedly declining the submission is in no way helpful, and does not seem to represent a good faith attempt at objective editing. Some clarification would be very much appreciated. Hungryscamp (talk) 19:32, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

The article states a birthdate. There is no ref for that fact. The article states "earning first chair in both during middle and high school, but ultimately committed his studies to the guitar, studying jazz at the University of North Carolina Wilmington." but there is no ref for any of those details. The article highlights "multiple seasons of Moonshiners on the Discovery Channel, and Lone Star Law on Animal Planet" but the ref only supports Animal Planet generally. The article states "using the field recording techniques made famous by Alan Lomax.[8]" but ref #8 does not mention Lomax, and this sentence itself appears to be trying to ride Lomax's coattails. "Johnson is a music educator and has cultivated a global following through an instructional platform where he teaches guitar technique and theory[3]" but the ref only supports that he released a single educational item and nothing about a "global following", etc. To put it simply, every fact must have a cited WP:RS reference (so that typically also excludes refs that are mostly interview format or collections of quotes). DMacks (talk) 19:43, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for the clarification. I did not provide ref for birthdate, as Wikipedia guidelines state: “The policy on sourcing is Wikipedia:Verifiability, which requires inline citations for any material challenged or likely to be challenged, and for all quotations.” ] I did not see the subject’s birthdate as being information likely to be challenged, which is why I did not provide ref here. I will add reference or remove the birthdate, but I do believe that your leading with that here is evidence that you are making a personalized dispute and not an objective edit.
I would argue, as well, that the ref for the section on high school studies is supported by the article which does mention the subject playing trumpet and baritone at South Brunswick High School. However, I will remove the inclusion that the subject earned first chair in both, since you find that contentious as well.
In your 3rd point, you state that “The article highlights "multiple seasons of Moonshiners on the Discovery Channel, and Lone Star Law on Animal Planet" but the ref only supports Animal Planet generally.” This is absolutely not true, as the second sentence in the article states “His original music has been licensed to Dodge Motor Co, Ken Burns, the Discovery Channel, Animal Planet, PBS, and more.” Therefore, your reason for dispute is again inaccurate. I will, however, include additional citations to evidence the specific shows on those specific networks, as I am doing all that I can to follow protocol.
Re: referencing Alan Lomax’s recording techniques in the section on field recording, the article does describe the recording techniques used to record the referenced album. However, I understand that you are discounting the validity of that reference, based on your assertion that WP:RS “typically also excludes refs that are mostly interview format.” This does seem to be subjective on your part and further evidence that this is personal and not objective editing. However, I will remove the reference to Lomax, to again show my own effort to act in good faith.
Re: your final contention that I did not provide sufficient reference/citation to prove that "Johnson is a music educator and has cultivated a global following through an instructional platform where he teaches guitar technique and theory,” the provided citation does specifically reference “ Justin also recently released a three-part instructional DVD series, Roots Music According to Justin Johnson, about how to build and play traditional roots instruments.” However, you are correct that it does not reference the global following or the further development of that educational platform over the years, so I will add citations to further prove those points. Hungryscamp (talk) 20:48, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
The threshold for "biography of living persons" details is higher than other types of claims, including for reasons of privacy. The threshold for anything that sounds even remotely promotional is likewise (because we as editors are not allowed to editorialize or write non-neutral content). DMacks (talk) 09:45, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
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