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I'm asking for translation of w:ru:Собирательство in English.
Harvest is about agricultural harvest.
But natural resources such as (fruits, honey, mushrooms) can be picked up without agriculture (activity of humans).
I know "Recreational Shellfishing" in Washington, but I don't know more universal word in English.
In Russian it is "собирательство"/"сбор".
Other european languages may have specific words for this. D1gggg (talk) 12:54, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- Picking as "A gathering to pick fruit or various products" may be one option. D1gggg (talk) 13:35, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- There's also "gathering", used when referring to our hunter-gatherer ancestors. Huon (talk) 14:38, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- This is also what hunter-gatherer ancestors did most of their time
- I cannot translate page to meet minimum stub level :-) D1gggg (talk) 14:42, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- If you're looking for translation help, try WP:Translators available#Russian-to-English. Huon (talk) 14:52, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- There's also "gathering", used when referring to our hunter-gatherer ancestors. Huon (talk) 14:38, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
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More specifically, you've been reverted by three separate editors, yet you keep inserting the same material. Not only that, but you seem hellbent on scrubbing any links to the Chicken or the egg article. This would seem to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy. Please revert your recent edits to this article and discuss any changes there. There might actually be some material worth inserting, but you've deleted so much and the English you're using is so poor that it's impossible to keep just that material. --Deacon Vorbis (talk) 13:13, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
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I'm asking to edit protect Chicken or the egg, we spend considerable time with @Katolophyromai: about Aristotle and Plutarch and I think in the end we both agreed about "I think that that Plutarch and Aristotle should live at Potential of thought to exist and actualization of thought"; we have many academic papers claiming Aristotle and Plutarch are about thoughts and actualization and not literally about eggs and chickens. Please save your time.}}
It is clear that I'm ready spend enormous time at talk pages, warning is widely inappropriate when user seem to avoid talk D1gggg (talk) 13:31, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not sure exactly what it is you are asking for an admin to help with. If you would like to request protection of a page, the place to do that is WP:RFPP. For what it's worth I don't see a case to apply protection at Chicken or the egg, there is an editing dispute but I think you're willing to discuss your changes rather than continuing to revert, and if you're not willing to discuss then you'll be blocked for edit warring. I'm completely lost as to the rest of your request about Aristotle and Plutarch, but it looks like you're already discussing this on Katolophyromai's talk page, and don't need an admin's help with this. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:01, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
- "I think you're willing to discuss your changes rather than continuing to rever" absolutely
- But I also need another party to reply meaningfully and on topic and not to accuse me in every other message it helps with WP:BRD a lot.
- Hopefully we will be able find at least some consensus about other edits eventually, we cab all have bad days. D1gggg (talk) 20:08, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
Edit warring at Chicken or the egg
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. The full report is at the edit warring noticeboard. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 04:04, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- WP:BRD cannot happen without discussions.
- 6 of 7 discussions are started by me.
- WP:DROP D1gggg (talk) 04:21, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
D1gggg (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
"is repeatedly violating WP:BRD by reinserting badly-formatted, unclear or UNDUE additions after reversion by multiple editors." It is just wrong: 1. I don't care about illustrations: [1] 2. it should be discussed: Talk:Chicken_or_the_egg#latest_edit_by_Agricolae 3. everyone should follow WP:BRD and not just me [2] 4. not trying to be WP:TENDENTIOUS - I can give as many time to improve Chicken or the egg as needed
Decline reason:
Yeah, no. The rampant WP:NOTTHEM aside, a quick look at the article and talk page shows you engaging in egrerious WP:IDHT. The reason nobody is interested in discussing with you anymore is because people tend to learn when somebody is going to refuse to listen - the tone of the talk page there makes it very clear you don't want discussion, you want everyone to agree to your views. I'd honestly say a 24 hour block is charitable given that, and I'd make the suggestion that when this block expires you consider avoiding Chicken or the egg in your future editing, at least for awhile. - The Bushranger One ping only 08:09, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
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You have stated "I can give as much time to improve Chicken or the egg as needed". If so what was the urgency that required you to revert nine times since 6 November? You could have proposed these changes on Talk and waited to see if others agree. EdJohnston (talk) 05:30, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- My bad layout can wait years, indeed. I never actually claimed that this is somehow good layout - this is what I was able to pull quickly and I asked for help but nobody cared.
- But why bring closed discussion in blame me in stale WP:3RR?..
- False quotations about public people and Aristotle cannot wait (especially when nobody can object these edits)
- We all have different priorities in edits, not everyone can be happy with early edits. D1gggg (talk) 05:42, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
I want discussion why to remove [3] [4]
I don't waste my life on Flaming (Internet) and feeding: "Not only that, but you seem hellbent" "but there is a right way and a wrong way to go about improving it. The wrong way is to keep making the same changes after objections have been raised. You have already violated WP:3RR, and could have your editing privileges suspended right now - that is how wrong the way you are going about this is, but talking about it here is a good step" "is repeatedly violating WP:BRD"
WP:5P4 and WP:BRD is a just advertisement.
WP:DROP! D1gggg (talk) 19:59, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
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Structured Commons newsletter, December 13, 2017
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Structured Data on Commons Newsletter - Spring 2018
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- Several Commons community members are working on ways to integrate Wikidata in Wikimedia Commons. While this is not full-fledged structured data yet, this work helps to prepare for future conversion of data, and helps to understand how Wikidata and Commons can work better together.
- Thanks to Jarekt and other contributors, some Commons templates can now be filled via Wikidata: {{Creator}} (Phabricator) and {{Institution}} (Phabricator). Work is ongoing on the {{Artwork}} template (Phabricator).
- Thanks to Mike Peel and others, Wikidata-powered infoboxes can now be added to Commons categories, with the template {{Wikidata Infobox}}. (Example)
- Multichill is working on an experimental workflow to upload images to Commons via Wikidata (and using metadata from Wikidata). See a part of it here.
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- Discussions held
- Conversation about licensing and copyright modeling.
- High-level discussion on ontology for Commons.
- Review first designs for multilingual captions.
- IRC office hour, 13 February
- Events
- Wikimedia Conference, Berlin, 20-22 April (+ Learning Days 18-19 April): several sessions and workshops around Structured Commons
- EuropeanaTech Conference, Rotterdam, 15-16 May: several presentations + a full workshop day on Monday 14 May about Wikidata and Structured Commons
- Wikimedia Hackathon, Barcelona, 18-20 May: Structured Commons as a focus area.
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- The research about GLAM contributions to Wikimedia Commons is concluded. A blog post on the Wikimedia blog provides a summary, and you can read the full results on meta.wikimedia.org.
- Prototypes will be available for Multilingual Captions soon.
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Structured Data on Commons Newsletter - Summer 2018
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- Our dedicated IRC channel: wikimedia-commons-sd webchat
- Since our last newsletter, the Structured Data team has moved into designing and building prototypes for various features. The use of multilingual captions in the UploadWizard and on the file page has been researched, designed, discussed, and built out for use. Behind the scenes, back-end work on search is taking place and designs are being drawn up for the front-end. There will soon be specifications published for the use of the first Wikidata property on Commons, "Depicts," and a prototype is to be released to go along with that.
- A workshop on what Wikidata properties Commons will need. This workshop will be open for the entire month of July 2018 at minimum.
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- Discussions held
- In late February there was a discussion around how Commons generally sees data being modeled.
- The first discussion on copyright and licensing with Commons was held in March. This was a "high level" discussion, there will be a consultation later this summer about the deeper mapping of copyright and licensing in a structured way.
- In April there was an exercise for GLAM partners in metadata and ontology mapping.
- A discussion about the design for Multilingual Captions on the file page took place in May. You can still review the designs and leave feedback.
- There was an IRC office hour in June to discuss progress so far and future plans.
- Wikimania 2018
- Three sessions about Structured Commons are officially scheduled for Wikimania 2018 - Cape Town, South Africa - July 2018.
- Wikimedia Commons and GLAM needs around the world (Friday 20 July, 10:30 local time)
- Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons and knowledge equity (Friday 20 July, 14:00 local time)
- Design challenge workshop: How can multilingual structured metadata bring knowledge equity to Commons? (Friday 20 July, 14:30 local time)
- Structured Data on Commons is also a focus area during the Wikimania 2018 Hackathon. We will, among other things, do 'live' modelling of Wikidata properties for Commons - an offline spin-off of the community consultation taking place on wiki.
- Partners and allies
- We are still welcoming (more) staff from GLAMs (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) to become part of our long-term focus group (phabricator task T174134). You will be kept in the loop of the project, and receive regular small surveys and requests for feedback. Get in touch with Sandra if you're interested - your input in helping to shape this project is highly valued!
- Structured Data on Commons was presented to GLAM audiences during EuropeanaTech 2018 in Rotterdam (15 May 2018) and at the Deutsche Digitale Bibliothek Forum in Berlin (4 June 2018).
- Research
Two research projects about Wikimedia Commons are currently ongoing, or in the process of being finished:
- Research:Curation workflows on Wikimedia Commons—a project that seeks to understand the current workflows of Commons contributors who curate media (categorize it, delete it, link to it from other projects, etc.).
- Research:Technical needs of external re-users of Commons media—soliciting feedback from individuals and organizations that re-use Commons content outside of Wikimedia projects, in order to understand their current painpoints and unmet needs.
- Prototypes will be available for Depicts soon.
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Structured Data Newsletter - Research link fix
[edit]Greetings,
The newsletter omitted two interwiki prefixes, breaking the links on non-meta wikis as you might see above. Here are the correct links:
- m:Research:Curation workflows on Wikimedia Commons—a project that seeks to understand the current workflows of Commons contributors who curate media (categorize it, delete it, link to it from other projects, etc.).
- m:Research:Technical needs of external re-users of Commons media—soliciting feedback from individuals and organizations that re-use Commons content outside of Wikimedia projects, in order to understand their current painpoints and unmet needs.
My apologies, I hope you find the corrected links helpful.
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Structured Data on Commons Newsletter - Fall 2018 edition
[edit]Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!
- Community updates
- Multilingual Captions, the first feature release for Structured Data, is coming in January of 2019
- Be on the lookout for the beta testing announcement
- Help using captions has been set up, if you'd like to go ahead and see the workflow
- Two IRC office hours were held since the last newsletter
- Our dedicated IRC channel: wikimedia-commons-sd webchat
Current:
- Help determine and propose properties on Wikidata for Commons
- Review designs for structured licensing and copyright
- Join the community focus group!
Since the last newsletter:
- Review a prototype for searching structured Commons (October 2018)
- "Good coverage" for depicts tagging (Sept. 2018)
- Review and discuss mockups for displaying the new metadata section of the file page (18 September - 9 October 2018)
- Depicts statements draft requirements (14 August - 31 August 2018)
- Identify Wikidata properties that Commons will need (26 June - 14 August 2018)
- Presentation by Keegan on the first features to be released for Structured Data, presented at Wikiconference North America, Columbus, Ohio, October 2018.
- Sandra presented a project update at the GLAM-Wiki conference in Tel Aviv, Israel, November 2018, as part of an update and panel discussion.
- Structured Data on Commons was the subject of a keynote presentation by Sandra (see slides) at the Baltic Audiovisual Archives Council conference in Tallinn, Estonia, November 2018.
- Partners and allies
- The info portal on Structured Commons now includes a section on GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums).
- We are currently planning the first GLAM pilot projects that will use structured data on Wikimedia Commons. One project has already started: the Swedish Heritage Board researches and develops a prototype tool to provide improved metadata (translations, data additions...) from Wikimedia Commons back to the source institution. Read the project brief.
- The documentation for batch uploads of files to Wikimedia Commons will be improved in 2019, as part of preparing for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons. To prepare, the GLAM team at the Wikimedia Foundation wants to understand better which types of documentation you already use, and how you like to learn new GLAM-Wiki skills and knowledge. Fill in a short survey to provide input!
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Captions in January
[edit]Structured Data - file captions coming this week (January 2019)
[edit]My apologies if this is a duplicate message for you, it is being sent to multiple lists which you may be signed up for.
Hi all, following up on last month's announcement...
Multilingual file captions will be released this week, on either Wednesday, 9 January or Thursday, 10 January 2019. Captions are a feature to add short, translatable descriptions to files. Here's some links you might want to look follow before the release, if you haven't already:
- Read over the help page for using captions - I wrote the page on mediawiki.org because captions are available for any MediaWiki user, feel free to host/modify a copy of the page here on Commons.
- Test out using captions on Beta Commons.
- Leave feedback about the test on the captions test talk page, if you have anything you'd like to say prior to release.
Additionally, there will be an IRC office hour on Thursday, 10 January with the Structured Data team to talk about file captions, as well as anything else the community may be interested in. Date/time conversion, as well as a link to join, are on Meta.
Thanks for your time, I look forward to seeing those who can make it to the IRC office hour on Thursday. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 21:09, 7 January 2019 (UTC)Discussion on scope of the "Sailing ship" article
[edit]You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Sailing ship#Scope?, regarding what should be included in the article. You'll find a proposed outline, there. Cheers, HopsonRoad (talk) 12:36, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
Structured Data - blogs posted in Wikimedia Space
[edit]There are two separate blog entries for Structured Data on Commons posted to Wikimedia Space that are of interest:
- Working with Structured Data on Commons: A Status Report, by Lucas Werkmeister, discusses some ways that editors can work with structured data. Topics include tools that have been written or modified for structured data, in addition to future plans for tools and querying services.
- Structured Data on Commons - A Blog Series, written by me, is a five-part posting that covers the basics of the software and features that were built to make structured data happen. The series is meant to be friendly to those who may have some knowledge of Commons, but may not know much about the structured data project.
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