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Indeed, I did not notice the image license contained Non-commercial (NC) which was not suitable for Wikipedia. My mistake. The deletion was appropriate! --CyberXRef^talk 07:24, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

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I will gladly do so! --CyberXRef^talk 22:21, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

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You're kidding, I hope--either that, or you don't know jackshit about citing. Yes, they're books, which is at least suggested by such features as ISBNs and publishing information. Yes, those are page numbers--duh. I think you should try and do better than going around telling people they need to use "proper citations", which you tried unsuccessfully to wikilink to Wikipedia:Citation templates. If you had looked at the bibliography you would have seen that all are done with Cite book templates. Drmies (talk) 20:44, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

The summary link was a typo, I particularly meant Help:Shortened footnotes. The coarseness is unnecessary (and very unprofessional), my message was made in good faith. While it may seem insignificant <ref>foobar 1972, p. 32.</ref> is not the same as <ref>foobar 35.</ref>. That's all I was attempting to convey. --CyberXRef^talk 20:49, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, I'm sorry if I sounded coarse. It's just that your message is a bit ridiculous, coming from a new editor to someone who has 150,000 edits here and has created now close to a thousand articles. You should know, if you didn't already, that our style manual does not mandate any single format. You should know also (you don't acknowledge) that I did use citation templates. Most of all, you could consider that my format is an exact copy of the MLA format, which is used by thousands of real scholars without complaints about commas and page syntax. Your "shortened" note isn't short if it contains unnecessary information such as a year and "p."--those things are unnecessary. What else could a number refer to? Seriously, what else? You may not like MLA, but that's not my concern.

So good faith or not, your message was silly and hasty, and that edit summary that proclaims my incompetence is forever there in the article history, in an article that I saved from deletion and that will be on the front page soon. Have a nice day. Look more carefully next time. Drmies (talk) 20:58, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Past Times

Hi CyberXRef, I've declined speedy deletion of this article on the grounds that a) the article is referenced from reliable sources, per WP:RS, and b) the retailer has been covered by more than two reliable sources and is thus notable, per WP:Notability. You may wish to check these things before re-nominating articles for speedy deletion in the future. I've stubified the article; it should now go to AfD if you still think this defunct retailer isn't notable. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 21:27, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

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Salisbury seasons

iranian stub? are you sure? thats english non-league club-) thx for patrolling though-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martinklavier (talk • contribs) 19:18, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

ha! thanks, I meant England-footyclub-stub I had like 10 browser tabs for Iranian stub articles opened. totally didn't realize it. --CyberXRef^talk 19:22, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

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NDAA 2014 Article

Hi there! I saw your recent edits to National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2014 (originally titled National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2014 (S. 1197; 113th Congress)) and I wanted to let you know about some errors. The title was disambiguated for a reason - there are four bills named "National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2014" in the current Congress - two in the House and two in the Senate. The Senate worked on one of their versions first, which is why it has a Wikipedia article. The House worked on one of their versions later, during the height of the holidays, and I was too busy to create an article then. The provisions of all the bills are different, the debate is different (the Senate got caught up in debate over how to deal with sexual assault in the military and a few other things), and the procedural history is different. The information you've added to the Senate article is actually about one of the House bills, not the Senate bill featured in the article. It was the House bill that was passed and became law, so it should get the official article page "National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2014". The Senate article is relevant for historical purposes or could be incorporated as background maybe. It was a hot topic for a few weeks, so I had hoped more editors would get involved in adding info to the article.

These are the four bills (their official government pages):

H.R. 3304 - this is the NDAA bill that became law and is the official NDAA 2014
H.R. 1960 - this is a NDAA bill that passed the House, but never the Senate
S. 1197 - this is the NDAA bill that the Senate spent several weeks debate and working on on the floor, but got caught up in debate and was never passed. It is also what the article was about.
S. 1034 - this is a Senate NDAA bill that was referred to Committee, but never made it to the floor.

I'm going to return the info to it's home on the disambiguated page for safe keeping, until it can be determine whether to keep that or how to incorporate it into the official NDAA 2014 article. I'll start a NDAA 2014 article based on the bill that actually became law, if you want to join me in working on it.

Does all of this make sense to you? Thanks! HistoricMN44 (talk) 14:59, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Oh, just noticed a few of the errors were from pre-existing edits made by another user. I'll let him/her know too. Those definitely would have added to any confusion, since they stated that this was the official NDAA law.

Only one bill was being sent to the president, an article for each of the separate bills makes absolutely no sense especially since the other bills are dead and obsolete at this point. I did just realize that some of the information got intermixed. --CyberXRef^talk 04:38, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Now that there are two articles, The (S. 1197; 113th Congress) one is not clear enough IMO that it's not the official NDAA but another version that failed to pass. --CyberXRef^talk 05:11, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Angelina Chernova

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Removing dead links

Howdy. In the future, please do not remove dead links from pages like you did here, here, and here. Reasons why this is typically not done can be found at Wikipedia:Link_rot#Keeping_dead_links.--Rockfang (talk) 17:55, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

I am well aware of WP:ROT which is why I did what I did. I did replace reference (where appropriate) with a suitable replacements just like in the edit on that very page here. Note that the second source already had ANOTHER existing reference right next to it see the edit your linked to here making the removal unharmful. Note that the OK-100 fall in the same boat, it was already referenced. I should point out the reference was about a detour which is a trivial fact (anyone looking at a map could verify it without needing any specific reference since there are really only few routes possible anyway (59/2/9/10/64 (in various places))). I would appropriate that you ask me before you blindly undo my revisions next time (WP:ONLYREVERT). --CyberXRef^talk 01:18, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

I didn't "blindly" undo anything. Also, I don't foresee myself coming here to ask your permission before any revert I might make that involves you. That seems a bit unrealistic.--Rockfang (talk) 03:23, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you though for replacing a dead link with a live one (and here) in the end.--Rockfang (talk) 03:29, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Oak Island Vandal(?)

I'm not sure what motive of the IP user is as to "comedy." If the user does it again, I'll go after it if I get there first. The guys are a bit funny from time to time, but the genre is reality, period, I think. Thoughts, if any? Best wishes.Learner001 (talk) 17:20, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

I am really not sure why he contentiously tries to tag it as 'comedy'. A comedy is a TV show that intended to be amusing/humorous by inducing laughter. The Curse of Oak Island is nothing like that. A single slightly funny scene doesn't make a comedy. This show is very similar to Ice Road Truckers and Gold Rush (TV series) (on the Discovery channel). Unless this changes significantly in the upcoming episodes, as it stand it's only a Reality. --CyberXRef^talk 00:10, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Flora of Malaysia

Hello there! I think there is no need to add stub or category in that page, I've nominated it for speedy deletion as it doesn't have any other reliable sources as well, written like only promoting country. Nechlison (talk) 13:10, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

@Nechlison: I sort everything regardless of WP:AfD or WP:SPEEDY. From experience many of the speedy deletions or articles for deletions end up not being deleted. (Author didn't finish the article, mistake, and whatnot).

As a side note WP:A7 ONLY applies to individuals, animals, organizations, web content, and events. Flora of Malaysia is none of them. --CyberXRef^talk 13:16, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

The issue is now under WP:CSD G11 and does not follow WP:NPOV too. Nechlison (talk) 13:20, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Rose Fostanes

Thanks for submitting your article for DYK. I see a problem that perhaps you can explain. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:28, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

@Doug Coldwell: No clue, I didn't nominate it nor did I add that 1 sentence about her being a lesbian; it's pretty much the only sentence I didn't write. But now that she has won, it should probably be rephrased from 'contestant' to 'winner of the first season'. --CyberXRef^talk 22:04, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

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Imaginary Number (The Maine EP)

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An animal-head post found in the Oseberg vikingship, an example of Nordic art

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Amira Pyliotis > Tecoma (musician)

I've opened a discussion at talkpage suggesting the above move. I believe it is not controversial so I haven't used the formal 'plate. If you have an opinion either way you're welcome to provide it.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:44, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Martha Robertson

Re: your recent edits of Martha Robertson... "nonsense speedy deletion; there is significant coverage in reliable sources" Article was not nominated for speedy deletion. It was nominated PROD. "Remove primary source tag: they were used only to make a straightforward, descriptive statement of facts" I am not objecting to the use of primary sources. My problem is that most of the sources are primary. Further I am not seeing notability as per WP:POLITICIAN in any of the cited sources. Extensive in depth coverage via WP:RS sources? The one secondary source cited is covering her announcement as a candidate for Congress. That is in itself not notable though. Maybe I am missing something here.-Ad Orientem (talk) 00:10, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikilinking: IMPORTANT MESSAGE!

Hi, and thanks for your work on the English Wikipedia.

I noticed an article you worked on. Just a short note to point out that we don’t normally link:

dates
years
commonly known geographical terms (including well-known country-names), and
common terms you’d look up in a dictionary (unless significantly technical).

This even applies for infoboxes.

Thanks and my best wishes.

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Film director is significantly technical; I've never wikilinked dates and years. Maybe the Canada one was unnecessary. --CyberXRef^talk 13:28, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Imaginary Number (The Maine EP) history merge

CyberXRef and Thatemooverthere: I have asked an administrator to merge the page histories of Imaginary Number (The Maine EP) and Imaginary Numbers and to place the resulting page at Imaginary Numbers, with a redirect left behind at Imaginary Number (The Maine EP). See Wikipedia:How to fix cut-and-paste moves and Wikipedia:Article titles for the relevant documentation. Expect this to happen in the next day or two. Please do not make any further edits to Imaginary Number (The Maine EP), as all edits made after January 16 to that page will be discarded. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 22:00, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

CyberXRef and Thatemooverthere: The move is complete but the administrator put the results at Imaginary Numbers (The Maine EP) per Wikipedia's article-naming conventions, specifically, WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. It is ready for editing. Imaginary Numbers now redirects to Imaginary number. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:29, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

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Your signature

Hi CyberXRef, sorry to bug you about this, but you might not realize that your signature is a bit difficult to read. Specifically, the colors you use for the "er" and "ef" in CyberXRef are so similar to the background color in the default Vector and Monobook Wikipedia skins that I can't read them easily (the "ef" is almost invisible to me, and I have no problems with color vision). While WP:CONTRAST is primarily intended for articlespace, it provides some guidance. You might want to try tweaking the colors you use a bit to be more compliant with the suggested WCAG guidelines. Thanks! —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 22:17, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

I've modified it a bit, it's a little darker, hopefully it's more readable. --CyberXRef^☎ 22:36, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Much easier to read for me. Thanks! —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 23:36, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

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An example of the human skeleton

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2013 Maccabiah Games

Hi. I only learn English, but I will try to answer. With these sources a problem, they aren't right. Juniors, Masters, Open, and Paralympics. Look at the following page. There is one more source For a list of individual medalists per category, CLICK HERE. I used this source when wrote article in Russian - Winners and Medals

On this source, I made tables on categories: Juniors, Masters, Open and Paralympics, and after that made the general table. Please look my article in Russian and my article results of Maccabiah 2013

1. The quantity of gold and silver medals has to be approximately identical. 2. Athletes from the different countries, competing together, have to be noted, as Mixed team - MWU 3. I live in Israel and addressed to organizers, that corrected a source, but...

Bis Regards STUDENT57 (talk) 06:55, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

@STUDENT57:
שלום,
אני יכול לדבר קצת עברית
אני מבין שיש כמה בעיות עם התוצאות
האם יש דרך לקבל את רשימה מלאה של התוצאות בפועל וללא ממסר על כל מסמכי PDF האלה?
דרך אגב, אני הייתי עם משלחת ארה"ב (אני לא השתתפתי).
קבלתי לסיור בארץ הקודש!

גם
למה חלק מהתוצאות חסרים?
לדוגמא 4×200m Free Male, USA , במקום שני, השמות שלהם: Michael Wohl, Marcus Schlesinger, Aaron Greenberg, and Garrett Weber-Gale.

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.. Please, look here and that you look for here and Winners and Medals page 23 אני מאוד שמח שהית בישראל, מקווה שצברת הרבה אמוציות חיוביות. ישראל היא מדינה יפה ויש הרבה מה לראות בה. אני מתעניין בהוקי קרח ישראלי מצאתי תוצאות מלאות באתרים של התאחדויות שונות כאשר ערכתי כתבה שלי ברוסית. גם כן כתבתי על תחרויות בודדות למשל אתלטיקה, שם יש פניה למקורות

בכבוד רב

STUDENT57 (talk) 09:24, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi CyberXRef,

Based on your comments, I've added the references onto the medal table page. Problem solved. Springyboy (talk) 02:49, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

@Springyboy: That table is strange, there are 488 gold medals, 475 silver, and a whopping 585 bronze. As STUDENT57 brought up, the sum of each type of medal should all match. --CyberXRef^☎ 05:29, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

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Hi CyberXRef, thank you for your contribution to the RfC on Justin Bieber's behaviour and legal issues. Some users have posted that the RfC is currently a mess, and that we need to be very explicit in what we agree to include and what we don't. As such, I have created a second survey, which cuts the content into points. Could you take the time to post your opinion on each point, whether you think it should be included or not, or summarized, or changed. It will be a bit tedious but we need your detailed input to move forward. Thanks again. starship.paint (talk | ctrb) 05:47, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello CyberXRef, sorry to bother you again about Bieber. Unfortunately, only 5 of the 16 editors who posted their opinion in the General survey part of Bieber's RfC posted again in the point-by-point survey. Progress simply isn't made - could you help to post in the responses to above points subsection to move it forward? Thank you very much. starship.paint (talk | ctrb) 08:39, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

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